Jake Locker #1 prospect?
 

I was only half paying attention to ESPN radio this morning, but I believe Mort was on and said that according to scouts, it looks like Jake Locker would be the #1 QB prospect ahead of Bradford if he were to declare.

Discuss.

Jake is a terrific prospect, but he should stay another year. He isn't experienced enough. He needs to improve his ability to read defenses. He has happy feet and lacks pocket presence.

Bradford likely isn't coming out either.

Ummm...isn't Bradford a senior?

Nm, I just checked. So, I guess he must have red shirted his first year.

Bradford is a junior. I don't think he returns to college his senior year and risks another injury.

Locker has major accuracy problems. While it has improved to some degree this year, he still misses his receivers by too much. Not only that, but his career at Washington has been marred by injuries, and a lot of losing. I think he'll probably stick around. He has the potential to be a good pro, but his accuracy should be a major concern for anyone considering him. I've had people tell me I'm wrong on this, but IMO accuracy CAN NOT be taught.

I was listening to Mike and Mike in the Morning about a week ago, and Brian Billick was talking about QBs and accuracy issues.

He said, essentially, if you have an inaccurate thrower, there are a couple of things you can do, but the reality is, it is what it is, and you can't expect or even really hope that you'll get more than minor improvement.

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

Sure he is. :spock:

He's easily the best QB in the Pac 10. I don't know if even I'd go out on a limb and say he's the top QB prospect in the nation. He'll put it on the Beavers this year though. :D

NFW is Locker going before Bradford. That's just fn laughable.

According to Mort (I think) Locker is one of the most athletic QBs and with Sark working him in a pro style offense he has impressed the scouts. The ND quarterback is highly regarded as well.

As much as it pains me to say it, Masoli might be better right now, though he is inconsistent. Most of the other PAC-10 schools are breaking in new QB's this year. The new AZ QB tore a new one last week.

The Beavers are having the same problem as the Chiefs this year - no pass rush and an inconsistent O-line. Fortunately, Washington plays into the strengths of the Beavs and not the weaknesses. Quick, accurate underneath passes have been burning us all year. Locker isn't accurate enough for that type of game and we have been pretty good against the run so far.

His accuracy is my only concern. Other than that, I don't think there is a quarterback in the country that has shit on him. He has great mobility, makes very good reads and decisions, and he's not afraid to tuck the ball and go. He has all of the tools of a pro quarterback and he's working in a pro system right now.

I don't think it's likely, but it's not laughable.

Locker was going to be a top prospect LAST YEAR before the entire team fell on their faces.

He's got far more NFL upside than Bradford. FAR more.

He should learn from Bradford and come out because several teams will be looking for a quarterback.

The stats don't agree with your argument at all. Stats aren't everything but when there is this much of a difference...

Bradford 07-08: 341 attempts, 237 comp, 3121 yards, 8 ints, 36tds, 12 sacks, 176.5 rating
Locker 07-08: 328 attempts, 155 comp, 2062 yards, 15 ints, 14 tds, 18 sacks, 105.0 rating

Also, Bradford is taller.

Bradford plays in a spread offense and his WR's are constantly WIDE open. He doesn't make complex reads in that scheme either.

Bradford plays for a team with an INFINITELY better offensive line.

Locker has more things you look for in a pro QB.

Now that Locker has a better coach I see him not in style of play but impact similar to cutler. Taking a doormat team and making them respectable. Sometimes that is a bigger hill to climb than a NC for a powerhouse.

Like throwing more Ints than TDs?

Okay, assume we're talking about the drafting style of an NFL team other than the Chiefs.

Yeah, enough. Bradford played on a team last year with a Second Round OLT, a Sixth Round OLG, a C now on the Vikes? active roster, and an ORG cut by the Texans for a DUI. The ORT was a junior and a projected FIRST. Jake Locker had JACK on the OL.

Bradford hasn't thrown a ball since the shoulder got hurt. Wait until he does to see if he has any prayer of coming out early. The most likely scenario is he stays and has a clean-up surgery on the shoulder in the offseason.

Jake Locker's accuracy issues are directly related to poor Huskie pass protection and his "happy feet." When Jake sets his feet correctly in a secure pocket, he has a cannon and is accurate with it.

Pete Carroll called Locker the best QB his team has played against in his 9 years.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/po...ocker-the-best


But this quote from Carroll about Washington quarterback Jake Locker caught my eye:

"That's the best quarterback we've played in nine years here," Carroll said when told Washington has beaten only Idaho and USC the last two years. " Jake Locker has ridiculous talent, and had he remained healthy last year, Tyrone [Willingham] would still be coaching there."

He plays for a bad team.

Do I need to list the hundreds of guys that played in systems like Bradford's and put up stats like Bradford's that utterly failed in the NFL?

I expect Bradford to fail as well. There is Nothing that I have seen out of him that really impresses me. Lobbing passes to guys out of the spread who are open by 5-8 yards doesn't really put me in awe.

People on this board underestimate Bradford. I'm not saying he's going to be a great or very good pro or anything, but his receivers are just as open and just as covered as Sanchez' were, or that of any other major program. He throws a very nice catchable ball with great touch. Of course the system and leash he is on may mean he never develops as an NFL QB.

If Locker comes back to UW next year I think it's a lock that he would be the first QB taken in 2011 draft.

Locker is da shit!

.... assuming he stays healthy.

Locker ran for something like 1000 yards and scored over 10 TD's in 2007 too, IIRC.

Bradford's scheme doesn't require him to make reads pre-snap. They line up and run their plays without making any adjustments to defensive alignment. That makes it MUCH easier on Bradford and it's a further testament to the amount talent that surrounds him.

The way the spread works basically means that guys like this have never had to read a defense or go through progressions like they will have to in the NFL.

THIS.

This thread makes the baby Llama cry.

Oh god people still think Spread Bradford is a great NFL prospect ROFL

I wish he would have just came out last year so we don't have to put up with this shit for another year.

I understand the limitations of the system. He may not be able to operate in a pro style offense. He may not be good at reading defenses or making his own calls, etc. In his system, he throws a nice ball. He's accurate and has a good arm. That's all I'm saying.

I don't disagree.

But that wasn't the contention.

The contention was that Bradford was a better pro prospect than Locker and he's really not.

If you can figure out a way to make Locker hit the broad side of a barn with his throws, I could probably get on board with that.

Mallett's the most impressive pro QB prospect I've seen in college football this year(I know he looked awful against Bama, but that was just as attributable to the whole squad).

Yeah, the accuracy is a concern. He looks gunshy to me.

Yeah but we're talking about NFL potential.

Yeah but Locker is a good college QB because of his speed and athleticism. Those things do not have as big an impact on a QBs NFL success as his ability to throw a pass, which Locker isn't that great at.

I can make a list of college QBs running who sucked in the NFL all day, but the bigger issue here is that I can't make a list of too many good running QBs in the NFL.

Bradford has more upside because he least he plays in a passing offense and guys like him have had success at the pro level.

Locker's head coach is one of the best freaking QB coaches in the country. I would take him over a spread QB in Bradford. Its sad when freaking Matt Cassel looks better than any of the QB prospects this year.

That's gonna' leave a mark.:D

If you are using the spread as a positive because it's a passing offense that's actually bad and not what you should be doing.

Guys like McCoy and Bradford will have a harder transition because of it.