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DaFace 10-04-2009 06:48 PM

Which type of team would you prefer?
 
Just curious. I think I may be in the minority on this one.

Dante84 10-04-2009 06:49 PM

Well, without anything to compare, I'd say a winning one?

BigMeatballDave 10-04-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6139439)
Well, without anything to compare, I'd say a winning one?

:LOL: This

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6139439)
Well, without anything to compare, I'd say a winning one?

This.

Reerun_KC 10-04-2009 06:51 PM

Winning one...

I never want to relive the Marty years...

kstater 10-04-2009 06:51 PM

The correct answer is long term dynasty.

Dante84 10-04-2009 06:51 PM

But, I would really like a smashmouth run offense with kick ass receivers and a gross Oline, and a nasty D that scares people.


Sooooo.... the Steelers.

DaFace 10-04-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6139439)
Well, without anything to compare, I'd say a winning one?

Ahh, but that is the question. What TYPE of winning team would you prefer?

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 06:52 PM

Well, option B obviously.

Since you said option A will "NEVER" win it all.

chiefs1111 10-04-2009 06:52 PM

id like a team that could win now and be a contender for years too come as well.

Dante84 10-04-2009 06:54 PM

A never ending dynasty.

DaFace 10-04-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139459)
Well, option B obviously.

Since you said option A will "NEVER" win it all.

That's where I think I'm in the minority. If you could give me a team that was guaranteed to make the playoffs every single year, but never win the Super Bowl, I'd probably take it. I'd rather have reasonably entertaining football week after week than a team that isn't worth watching for years on end. I just keep finding myself bored on Sundays these days, which is where the question came from.

luv 10-04-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139459)
Well, option B obviously.

Since you said option A will "NEVER" win it all.

This. I'm longing to see a SB win for us in my lifetime.

Reaper16 10-04-2009 06:55 PM

Of the non-weasel options I am absolutely for the team that wins Super Bowls sometimes. Being a fan of the constant contender/never winner option (aka the Philadelphia Eagles) would frustrate me to no end.

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6139466)
That's where I think I'm in the minority. If you could give me a team that was guaranteed to make the playoffs every single year, but never win the Super Bowl, I'd probably take it. I'd rather have reasonably entertaining football week after week than a team that isn't worth watching for years on end. I just keep finding myself bored on Sundays these days, which is where the question came from.

The thing is, option A can't happen. If you're that good, you've got a shot.

In the end... we all just wanna see our team win.

Bane 10-04-2009 06:57 PM

As bad as it may sound Id rather win 11-12 games a year,win a playoff game,then call it a season.I don't need the Chiefs to win the SB to be a fan,even though Id love to see it happen someday.

TrebMaxx 10-04-2009 06:57 PM

Constant contender, but wins it all on occasion.

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 6139488)
Constant contender, but wins it all on occasion.

Don't think that was an option, but I'm pretty sure we'd all choose it if it were.

DaFace 10-04-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139480)
The thing is, option A can't happen. If you're that good, you've got a shot.

In the end... we all just wanna see our team win.

I'd tend to agree, but then we've got the hatred for the Marty days as an example otherwise. Myself, I'd probably be thrilled if we could repeat the 90's again with the thinking that, eventually, you'll catch a few breaks and make it into the Super Bowl.

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6139499)
I'd tend to agree, but then we've got the hatred for the Marty days as an example otherwise. Myself, I'd probably be thrilled if we could repeat the 90's again with the thinking that, eventually, you'll catch a few breaks and make it into the Super Bowl.

Sounds pretty damned good at this point... that's for sure.

DaFace 10-04-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139459)
Well, option B obviously.

Since you said option A will "NEVER" win it all.

I suppose, in retrospect, a better phrase might have been "never seems to be able to win it all"

TrebMaxx 10-04-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139493)
Don't think that was an option, but I'm pretty sure we'd all choose it if it were.

Yeah it was. Last option.

Some other type of team that I will describe below (aka the weasel option)

Bearcat 10-04-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6139466)
That's where I think I'm in the minority. If you could give me a team that was guaranteed to make the playoffs every single year, but never win the Super Bowl, I'd probably take it. I'd rather have reasonably entertaining football week after week than a team that isn't worth watching for years on end. I just keep finding myself bored on Sundays these days, which is where the question came from.

On the surface it seems like a dumb question (we're in it for the championships), but when I look back on a year like 2003, it was a fun year... going 9-0, I went to the Bills SNF game and a couple others, and I went to the playoff game against the Colts. By that time I had gotten out of feeling devastated for days after big losses, so while it was disappointing, I don't look back on it like I do '95 and '97.

I voted the second option, but with the right mindset, the first option is better, especially if you're talking about 7-8 years of what we've seen from the Chiefs the past two years, followed by 2-3 years of SB runs (and you didn't say "and win a SB").

If this was about college, I'd say the first option, no question... March Madness is a crapshoot, and the BCS is crap... the NFL is a bit tougher though.

Tribal Warfare 10-04-2009 07:07 PM

I want an organization that knows how to build a team yes there are peaks and valleys, but the down years should be non-existent with a good FO, due to the transition phase is more of reloading when the talent is already present. When a player's contract comes up then their's an equally good player to fill the position. The continuity should be seamless concerning this issue.

DaFace 10-04-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 6139526)
On the surface it seems like a dumb question (we're in it for the championships), but when I look back on a year like 2003, it was a fun year... going 9-0, I went to the Bills SNF game and a couple others, and I went to the playoff game against the Colts. By that time I had gotten out of feeling devastated for days after big losses, so while it was disappointing, I don't look back on it like I do '95 and '97.

I voted the second option, but with the right mindset, the first option is better, especially if you're talking about 7-8 years of what we've seen from the Chiefs the past two years, followed by 2-3 years of SB runs (and you didn't say "and win a SB").

If this was about college, I'd say the first option, no question... March Madness is a crapshoot, and the BCS is crap... the NFL is a bit tougher though.

Yeah, the college comparison is really where I'm coming from. I don't expect my college team to win it all every year by any means. (Granted, there are a shit ton more teams that make it more difficult.) Yet, I still enjoy the season if the team can have a reasonably good year. The fun is in watching the individual games; the championship itself is a good goal, but is too short-lived to really dwell on it. IMO, that is.

Skip Towne 10-04-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6139466)
That's where I think I'm in the minority. If you could give me a team that was guaranteed to make the playoffs every single year, but never win the Super Bowl, I'd probably take it. I'd rather have reasonably entertaining football week after week than a team that isn't worth watching for years on end. I just keep finding myself bored on Sundays these days, which is where the question came from.

You just described the Marty years. I'd sure take it. Reerun can go **** his mother.

ArrowheadMagic 10-04-2009 07:12 PM

Maybe someday... Balt. will draft well enough to actually beat NE.... until then If we could be the pats or Steelers..... sign me up.

DaFace 10-04-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6139557)
You just described the Marty years. I'd sure take it. Reerun can go **** his mother.

Yup. It's probably not all that tough to tell that we're kind of talking about the 90's Chiefs vs the theoretical future where we'll be a contender after being really shitty for 5+ years.

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6139557)
You just described the Marty years. I'd sure take it. Reerun can go **** his mother.

It sounds great... it's just that "never" word that bugs me. Of course, I guess I wouldn't know any better anyway.

DaFace 10-04-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139571)
It sounds great... it's just that "never" word that bugs me. Of course, I guess I wouldn't know any better anyway.

I cheated and modified the poll phrasing, for what it's worth.

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6139579)
I cheated and modified the poll phrasing, for what it's worth.

I'd like to change my vote...lol

Psyko Tek 10-04-2009 07:15 PM

I was 5 when the cheifs won the superbowl
I enjoyed the hellout of the teams of the '90s but I would like to be a fan when they win it all at least once

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 6139585)
I was 5 when the chiefs won the superbowl
I enjoyed the hellout of the teams of the '90s but I would like to be a fan when they win it all at least once

Damn, I assumed you were like 25.

Skip Towne 10-04-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6139499)
I'd tend to agree, but then we've got the hatred for the Marty days as an example otherwise. Myself, I'd probably be thrilled if we could repeat the 90's again with the thinking that, eventually, you'll catch a few breaks and make it into the Super Bowl.

This. North Carolina stayed with Dean Smith for 20 years before he won it all. Then he won several.

Pioli Zombie 10-04-2009 07:38 PM

Winning a Super Bowl is so effen great its worth 7 or 8 lousy seasons around it. I said this when the Patriots finally won it. They could go 4-12 for the next 5 years and I'd still live off the championship.
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Fairplay 10-04-2009 07:43 PM

The Rams sucked for the longest time and got an SB.

Even the 'Bucs got one.

Can you say WTF?:huh:

mikey23545 10-04-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6139557)
You just described the Marty years. I'd sure take it. Reerun can go **** his mother.

This.

Especially the second part.

ChiefsCountry 10-04-2009 07:46 PM

Give me a top 5 QB and a top 5 defense and I will be happy.

Bearcat 10-04-2009 07:49 PM

Another downside to the second option is that there's no good conversation about your team, no buzz around town, etc; for most of the decade..... and then when you get good, a ton of dumbshits come out of the woodwork, who don't have a clue about football, don't even know when to yell, etc; and are obnoxious as hell (see: fans of DV's Rams). They would all move onto another team or just stop caring for several years, and you would be stuck again trying to strike up conversation with the 4 other die hard fans.

Reerun_KC 10-04-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 6139699)
This.

Especially the second part.

:LOL:

Mikey and Skip are sharing a moment in their Bromance together...

Noss 10-04-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6139453)
The correct answer is long term dynasty.

This! :thumb:

Psyko Tek 10-04-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6139588)
Damn, I assumed you were like 25.

thanks I think
I have to get older
I don't have to be mature about it

KcMizzou 10-04-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 6139749)
thanks I think
I have to get older
I don't have to be mature about it

Nah, that's a compliment. Seriously. You're much cooler than I am...lol

RippedmyFlesh 10-04-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6139471)
Of the non-weasel options I am absolutely for the team that wins Super Bowls sometimes. Being a fan of the constant contender/never winner option (aka the Philadelphia Eagles) would frustrate me to no end.

Philly is a good example but would you really rather have like the rams a SB..then years of suckage or philly knowing every year you have a shot at a ring.
Tough call.

BWillie 10-04-2009 08:42 PM

I like the Carl Peterson era of the 1990's. At least I was happy until after the playoffs. Now I have no hope already.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2009 09:23 PM

Once a decade is not enough.

Reaper16 10-04-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 6139780)
Philly is a good example but would you really rather have like the rams a SB..then years of suckage or philly knowing every year you have a shot at a ring.
Tough call.

I'm hungry for a title. I've never known what it feels like.


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