Who to draft in 2010
 

Ok, assuming we have a top 3 pick which I'm sure we will, the O-line is the biggest issue, along with a lot of other issues but that is first. So why not do this.

1st- Best Tackle
2nd- Best Guard
2nd - Best Guard

3-7 fill in the blanks.

This would put us in a good situation and would have a good line for the next 8-10 years, assuming none of them have career ending injuries.

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If you have a top 3 pick you take a playmaker.

Nope, not after the last few years, I would gladly pass on a potiental playmaker for a great Tackle and two very good guards. Period.

Wait!

Are you saying you don't agree with the thread starter, who's football knowledge is so vast, that he actaully named positions?

**** it, lets take a center.

After taking a ****ing 5-tech with the 3rd overall pick, nothing would surprise me.

And your team would lose and mine would win, to bad.

To me this team has already shown it has no foresight or understanding of draft values.

Last years draft was deep in OL and WR, this years is deep defense so what do we do? We go ass backwards.

we drafted a D tackle last year again, that wasn't a playmaker anything would surprise me

mecca is the god of all knowledge. we shall pass every great OL to take the best playmaker (a USC kid of course.) we will have some stud skill players,but our OL will consist of 2 punters, a converted DT,and a Brandon Albert. great plan!

Scott Wright has said that Eric Norwood could be there in the third round. That's good news.

We're taking a LT. We're going to have to get our minds around this.

And Berry/Mays will go on to be ****ing freaks...because we're Chiefs fans.

Hey look Joe Staley is back.

Did I just say to take a USC player?

I like how that gets thrown at me when I've openly wanted several non SC players, ****in reeruns I swear.

The best teams in the league built their OL's out of the first but by all means we need a top 5 pick and a top 15 pick on the OL to just be ok.

Our draft needs right now are:

1. TE
2. CB
3. RB
4. LT
5. Backup TE
6. QB

Perfect. Draft.

This fan base has a love affair with TE's and offensive lineman, we'll never win unless we have 5 first round OLineman and a HOF TE according to about half the fan base, it's ****in reeruned.

heh

Lil Stumpy the dude who thinks Sam Bradford plays in a pro style offense, his opinion means so much to me.

your right, we have so much time to devolp a couple 3rd and 4th round OL. i mean, our OL isn't really that bad right now. is it?

we need a whole new right side of the OL.we dont need to draft the best play making RB out there right now

Devils advocate: we aren't like most teams. We haven't won a playoff game since Joe freaking Montana

Did having an awesome OL with the Chiefs a playoff game? No it didn't...

And this idea that it takes years for offensive lineman to develop is bunk. Interior linemen are generally good from day 1. If they're gonna be good they don't have massive learning curves, look at how many guys step in at guard in their rookie years and do well.

F yeah. I've been saying this to my friends & family but if we're drafting top 3, it'd better be a guy who can win us some games.

I'm not calling him a bust and I understand that the D-line is important. But I have a little bit of a problem they spent the 3rd overall draft pick on a guy last year who will be asked his whole career to just eat up blocks.... That's F-ed up.

Well the Chiefs ****ed up and switched to 3-4 when the best draft prospect is a defensive end but hey we can't draft him now...that's great eh?

I asked this in another thread but this one is better for the subject. Asuming we are drafting #3, give me your perfect, but reasonable draft. I know we can't predict what underclassmen are coming out, but give it a shot.

I want Berry but the problem is we can't do shit offensively because our O-Line is so shitty.

Then again I look at St. Louis who took Jason Smith and they still suck.

The Cassel trade fugged everything up last year. Jackson was defacto pick by default bc of it. Jackson is going to have a nice career but everyone will think he sucks just by his position.

Do I really need to point to you that most of the best teams in the league have no 1st round offensive lineman or they have ones taken very late in the first?

You have more than 1 draft pick it's possible to take Berry and address the line.

JFC you little ****ing twerp.

How many ****ing championships has this team won in the years when they had some of the best O-Lines in the league.

In the 90s, a damn good O-Line and only one playmaker not single ****ing playmaker on offense.

In the Dick years, the best O-Line in the game and only one ****ing playmaker, and not single one on defense.

You can build O-line in the mid rounds.
Teams like the Giants do it every ****ing year.

If you are drafting at the tiop of the draft, you take potential playmakers because you need playmakers to win championships.

But you go ahead and build your O-Line you dumb****.

Smith got moved to right tackle and got hurt. But St. Louis front office is one screwed up case.

Yes, whoever it is should at least make a big difference for us and help win us a few games because of their outstanding play. That should be what a top 5 pick gives you.

Milkman what I've learned over the years of posting here is some people will never really get it.

Jason Worilds,Norwood and Selvie might all be viable guys to grab if they fall.

Also while the Chiefs better draft at least 2 O-linemen in this draft IMO they don't have to do it with their 1st round pick.

It's a disturbing trend (or thought) that the only way for the Chiefs to ever get a good O-line again is to draft them all in the 1st or 2nd round. That's not how good teams do it. Look at where a lot of those guys are drafted.

I can buy spending a 1st on a premiere LT (which we supposedly already have) but other then that? RT is fairly important.... The rest of the scrubs can be filled out in the mid to late rounds and start.

maybe you should just put

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it would make your post much easier. ROFL

LT isn't a concern, IMO.

One major problem is Albert's weight. Grunhard gave an excellent explanation last week. He said D1 tackles need to be playing at 290-310. NFL LTs at 310-320.

Said the footwork of our o-linemen was atrocious...

milkman has some great analysis of this in various threads, too.

Just a cluster**** right now.

Selvie is going to fall he's considered a bit overrated by general public.

Anyone who wants to give up on Albert after a season and 4 games is reeruned.

I'm going to bed.

When I'm at work tomorrow, I'm sure some dumbass will prove once again he can't count to three, and I will smile, because I'll know that he's still smarter than half the dumbasses around here.

Bill Muir is a horrible OL coach as well. The one Buc fan said he would ruin Albert when he was hired.

If they have the #1 overall, I'd trade down and stockpile picks. Is there going to be a stud LT next yr worthy of a #1? I'd be cool with them trading down to 8 and picking a LT or Mays there. I'd move Albert to LG, and Waters to center.

What do you do if you Okung sitting there? Possibly one of the best players in the draft at your weakest position?

And like some of you have said this draft isn't very deep at OL but it is deep on the defensive side of the ball.

I don't know it is a tough decision.

How's that working out for us the past 2 years?

I wouldn't take a LT with a top 10 pick, it's overkill.

Also this idea that the Chiefs can just move down is funny too.

Trade down from #1 overall? No one wants that hot potato.

Nobody is going to trade up. This draft is too deep and the talent doesn't drop. Not to mention there is no QB to cause such a trade.

1 mays or berry
2best player
2line
3line
4-7 best player

I'm on board with that. :thumb:

Wasn't all that impressed by Worilds by the one game I saw him in a couple of weeks ago but then it was just one game. Selvie may fall to the 2nd though.

i was think 2nd RD or lower for all of them. I don't think any of the 3 is worth a 1st rounder but if they fall into round 2 ........ especially if we keep both 2nd round picks.

who knows, maybe one could fall into RD 3. :fire:

I didn't say that they can, I just said if they could, for extra picks. Meaning, I wouldn't take issue with it.

The Huskers LT handled Worlids pretty solidly all game. He did get a few hurries but never really came close to Lee. I've been sold on Selvie for a couple of years now. He'd be worth spending a 2nd on.

I know the safeties get the most love from this board bc they make the most sense for the Chiefs but Carlos Dunlap is the best prospect or will be by the time April comes around. But sadly he doesn't fit our system.

Now for O-Line, I like Ciron Black out of LSU. Perfect right tackle, I think he will be available at either the Atlanta pick or ours in the 3rd round.

The Chiefs have no use for Dunlap now because they desire to play 3-4.

so who is the best rush LB for us to take?

On a sidenote it did bother the **** out of me that Albert was beat on a speed rush

honestly, you have to take berry or mays if they're the best players on the board. offensive line isn't great, but albert (if he gets over his mental block/focusing on technique instead of playing instinctively), and waters are 2/5 of a good line (waters is replaceable, though, possibly by darryl harris). we need a center, nduckwe is serviceable at guard (niswanger may be serviceable at guard), so at very least we need a center and a Rt. we can get a decent to good RT in the second-fourth round. we need another WR. we need linebackers out the ass. my dream draft (with no particular guys in mind)

1) playmaking safety (berry or mays)
2) rushbacker (OLB)
2) RT/C (you can get one of the better guys in the draft at either position here)
3) WR
4) RT/C (whichever you didn't get in second round)
5-7) BPA (need linebackers, o-line depth, another wr maybe, maybe a te, QB, etc)

haha seems everytime i explain myself you shut the hell up about that whole deal because you know what i said was correct.

i have some advise for you though. seriously,think about being an nfl coach, i mean i really dont know why no one has hired your God givin ass,i really dont. maybe the hair? yeaa,cut that off and see how that works for you,i'll bet you get hired right away once the owners realize they arnt hiring the first women nfl head coach:thumb:

''it's better to refrain from speaking and be assumed an idiot than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.''

This is funny coming from the guy who was pimping Joe Staley over Dwayne Bowe.

ROFL please dont think im an idiot.i couldnt take that.


it does get annoying to hear all these self appointed football guru's on here talking about whats best for the team and if piolli does it this way then he's a moron blah blah.just my opinion

cant we all just get alongROFL

WOW:doh!:

hmm,lets think about this.

dwayne bowe,what was he...third in the nfl in drops last year?


joe staley =OL (stud in college,which we needed.)

look at the situation we're in now (one of the worst ol in nfl history probably)

ummmm yea,i was pimpin staley over bowe,you are correct.


games are won up front in the trenches pumkin

pumkin LMAO

Didn't Staley go to the pro bowl last year?

dont bother, they're too ignorant to admit they were wrong about something

No

too ignorant to use apostraphes as well. at least you used the correct form of (they're/their/there)

I pimped for the whole ****ing line in this draft you little ****ing dumb ****ing Willard piece of shit, so go **** yourself

Don't get me wrong I'm happy with Bowe. I'd be just as happy with Staley. But right now we need playmakers. And Bowe really isn't that. He's a solid # 2 but he's not a game breaker. Brandon Marshall is a game breaker.

Sorry Mr.H5N1, thought I was out of class for the weekend? Please go nit-pick elsewhere.

the first pick we should pick a guy and then with the 2 pick we should pick another guy. that would be awesome

Ouch, someones angry

correct grammar isn't only for class, lil stump. it makes your arguments appear more intelligent due to quality writing. it makes people want to possibly listen to you more, and helps you appear less of a dolt.

to be honest sir,no one on this bored listens to anyone else, except for the few that hump Mecca's leg every morning to rid their morning wood. so i'm not too concerned

Hell Yea LMAO

well see bud,the difference between now and then was...our d is a little better,good enough to make a few stops.mind boggling i know.do you kiss your mom with that mouth?im really offended


edit: for n00bs, he's one of the self appointed gurus i was talking about.

I really hate the argument "how many championships did we win with a dominant OL in the 90's."

Other than a really good OL, what else don't we need?

We didn't win any championships with Allen or DT, so I guess KC doesn't need a good pass rusher.

We didn't win any championships with TG, so I guess we don't need a really good TE.

We didn't win any championships with Saleamua on the line, so I guess we don't need a NT.

We didn't win any championships with Carter and Hasty at CB, so I guess we don't need any really good corners.

We didn't win any championships with Cherry or Albert, so I guess we don't need any really good DBs.

We didn't win any championships with Holmes, so I guess we don't need a HB who can score 20+ TDs a year.

We don't have any of the above, so I guess we're set. We'll start winning real soon.

lmao,great post:thumb:

For all the talk of position value last year with Curry and then eventually Jackson, why does it seem like some of the same people are petitioning for Mays and Berry? Has the following been said here?

You just don't take a safety in the top 5. JFC. Do you realize you are potentially guaranteeing more than double the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of Sanders, Reed, and Polamalu?/CP draft expert

I know they are playmakers but.....

As opposed to guaranteeing more than double (and in many cases triple) the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of every 3-4 DE not named Seymour?

And Jackson's not even a playmaker.

We're going to be overpaying whoever we draft, so might as well get the guy that can actually make plays.