Why? Just Why, why, why...
 

Do people complain about the Jared Allen trade? Who cares.

Why do people say it's Peterson's fault? I can't understand the blame towards Peterson. He had no choice but to trade him.

Jared Allen didn't want to be here. Period. Can anyone blame him? Nope. This is sh*t franchise. He wanted to leave and Peterson had no other chocie but to trade him. It's as simple as that. And unfortunately he is a hard guy to replace. But Peterson got the best value he could get in return. It's the Chiefs fault for drafting sh*t. If you want something to complain about, look no further then the draft.

Of course some of us will be mad. Do you see how well he plays? DUH. We let one of the best ends in the NFL get away.

many people were defending the trade before and when it happened. if you WANTED him to be traded then you should be castrated. thats why people are still a little bitter

Of course his desire not to be here had NOTHING at all to do with Carl. Yeah, right.

And do you know why he didn't want to be here?

I know and realize that, but what can you do? It's unfortunate. I hated to see him go, my point is its done. It's the past. Complaining, blaming Peterson is no sense. Im more mad at the suckiness this franchise is offerring us right now.

WTH jeeezzz you don't understand? The King Carl hatred runs deep. It hasn't went away. We can't sniff a QB sack and we see the exact thing we need in prime time tearing it up and realize we already had what we need and those DAMNIT CARL! :cuss: feeling emerge. Whats so hard to understand about that?

Jared didn't want to be here because of King Carl. It was all on King Carl. No matter that you get in return you can never get full value for a pro bowl DE in his prime. They are as valuable as most starting NFL QB's.

because this organization is sh*t from ownership down.

If the dumb **** didn't have a drinking problem, Carl probably would have paid the bitch. Its 50/50 on both parties in this case.

Carl could care less if jared liked to get drunk. it was merely a tool to be used for leverage

I agree that it doesn't matter now,but Jared Allen said he would sign a long term deal if Carl didn't hit him with the franchise tag .Too late now,yes,but a deal could have been reached between the Chiefs and Jared Allen.
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His drinking problem has been clean thus far.

I could care less about the Minnesota Vikings' right defensive end. I don't see what he has to do with the Chiefs' future.

Jared didn't want to be here but he started a bar here.

Makes sense. :rolleyes:

Carl ****ed up....plain and simple.

This.

Personally, I could give a shit.

I'm much more concerned with the issues at hand now, like the $60M QB that is averaging 150 ****ing yards a game.

Branden Albert and whoever we draft to rush the passer. ;)

145.

:doh!:

Besides who gives a shit what he wanted. Franchise him until he signs a long term deal. We got rooked plain and simple.

I believe the Allen trade got Carl's ass out of here a little quicker. Clark said you ****ed up and I can'f fix it, you're out of here Carl. Course I also believe Tony G is gone because Clark granted him the trade he wanted.

I'm happy for Allen, just like I'm happy for TG that they got to go play for a legit team with a real shot at a Super Bowl. We're several years away from building anything here. No reason to cry over these guys going somewhere else. That's just the way it is.

1) Jared had an issue with Carl because Carl promised him a deal and then backed off. Standard procedure for Carl. Jared had no issues with Kansas City.

2) Even if he wanted to leave because this team was crap, then again, that falls on the architect of this team, Carl.

3) Like Lundberg said, franchise his a$$...

Seriously, wtf is this crap. Several years away? WTF? The Donkos are 4-0 with like 70% roster turnover. WTF why do we have to wait several years?

:mad:

Hey we haven't won jack since 1969. Saying we're several years away is pretty damn optimistic for a Chiefs fan. Let's see where Denver is after the year is over. A few years ago Miami got out to an undefeated start, then couldn't win a single game in November or December.

God, this whole board has its panties in a major wad today.

Lighten up, Francis!!

Yep.

even if we are 3 years away from competing, which is a stretch in today's NFL, JA would be at the elderly age of 29. wow, glad we got rid of that geezer.

Allen is insane enough to set out. The boy ain't right, it's also part of what makes him good. Running with the bulls, swimming with sharks, yea franchise my crazy ass.

Seymour garners a 1st round pick. Peppers gets franchise up the wazoo at that old geezer age.

Can we play the Browns or the Bengals or the Raiders, or have the Cowboys gift wrap a game for us every week, all the way to the Super Bowl?

We cannot let the memory of the Jared Allen trade die. We owe it to future generations of Chiefs fans to ensure that a horror like this never happens again. We need to show them the Number 69 tattooed on our forearms. We need to describe to them the feeling of having our most prized possession taken from us in the night. We need to describe to them the packed cattle cars of Chiefs fans on their way to Minnesota, the babies with Allen jerseys separated from their parents, families torn apart in a senseless orgy of franchise destruction. We need to describe to them the screams of the children, the terror on the faces of quarterbacks.

We cannot let this happen again. We are alive so this will never happen again.

No other choice? Jared Allen wanted to be in KC and get paid.....Carl then ****ed him over.....then Jared Allen wanted to get the **** outa Dodge which I don't blame him.

Faulty Logic
 

Brandon Marshall didn't want to be in Denver. Chad Johnson (ocho cinco) demanded a trade out of Cinncinati.

Simply because a player uses this leverage tactic with the press, doesn't mean that a team has no choice but to move them. A savvy move would have been to find a way to get him signed.

However, this happened two years ago, under a different GM and different head coach. I agree that the milk's been spilt, let's move on.

The Raiders beat us. DAL will beat us. Cincy is playing good ball now, better than when they played DEN, so they'd beat us. CLE is a toss up. We're so ****ing bad I dont know who'd win that game to be completely honest.

It amazes me how naivete some people are around here.

The Jared Allen deal was on Clark Hunt. If Clark wanted to pay him he woulda been paid.

Dane McLoud seems to be the only one around here who knows WTF is really going on.

As long as Clark **** is the tightass owner he is this team will fail to do anyting. Hell, as of last count they hadn't even hit the minimum payout for this years salary cap.

ROFL

:deevee:

I don't blame Peterson for the trade. I blame Peterson for the shittiest drafting ever for a 10 yr period.

He labled JA a troubled player but then backs up the brinks truck for LJ.
The BS double standard is what kills me. I'm glad we got Albert but players like JA are tough to come by.

Forums are for opinions, your opinion that others shouldnt share their opinions because it conflicts with yours is pretty damn foolish. You're no different than the people who create posts complaining about the Jared Allen trade, in fact this post might be worse considering your complaining about those posts complaining.

So Why? Just Why, why, why.....

It's almost like bitching about the Glenn Dorsey pick. What other choice did Peterson have? If he didn't take Dorsey, he would have been shot to death leaving the Arrowhead parking lot that night.

I think Dorsey is getting better. He's benefiting from the new regime.

I don't blame him for drafting Dorsey, either. His draft history is pretty shitty otherwise.

I agree with you. I think we have to get some real line coaches and a better coordinator before we see any signs of the players true abilities.

Yep. I hoping they only kept Krumrie because their options were limited since Haley was a late hire.

He asked for a trade because he wanted a long term contract. One that CP would not give him. Therefore, it is, in fact Petersons fault. Had he signed him to a 6 year deal. Allen would still be here. We would never have drafted Jackson and we wouldn't have had the piss poor pass rush that we have for the last 2 years.

3 games. 331 yards. 110 yards per game.

Never looked at it that way. Good point.

I can agree with this. I stated before as long as he is the owner, this team will suck it up.

Peterson always kept the wrong player.

We kept Johnson and let one of the best defensive ends in football hop a plane to Minnesota.
Just like before when we kept Eric Warfield and let Donnie Edwards defect for San Diego.

It hurts to see Allen tearing shit up in Minnesota.
Peterson had it out for the guy and didn't want him here.
He wanted Larry Johnson. We all know how well that worked out...

But then again, hindsight is always 20/20.

We wouldn't be 0-4 if he was still here. I'd bet somebodies left nut on it.

The problem with your analysis is that you ignore the reason Allen wanted out of KC... because of how Dictator Carl treated him like shit during the process leading up to negotiating a new contract.

The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.

Gonzales made Thigpen a better player. That got us 2 whole wins.

I have to agree with that. And it sucks.

I'll wait to pass judgment on Pioli on the Gonzales trade until I see what they do with that pick.

A good offensive lineman would be nice.

THIS! It was Carl's ego that kept LJ in KC....and shipped Allen to Minnesota. LJ was Carl's draft pick....and even though all of the historical stats about running backs coming off of a 400-plus carry season never being the same again were staring Carl in the face....he still sent a premiere pass rusher packing his bags....and handed a malcontent, diaper-wearing, 400-plus carry RB....a ton of dough.

Yeah...it had nothing to do with Carl! Right.

Because LJ was Carl's boy when he picked him over Vermiel's objections. He hitched his wagon to him right there and wasn't going to let him go regardless.

Talk about GM's with ego issues.

But not your own?

I wanted him traded.
I thought he was immature and would **** up again.
I thought he was going to be gone, it was just a decision of waiting for his contract to run out, or getting something in return.
...and...
I didn't think he was nearly as good as he is.

If I recall, his sack stats were very skewed toward the first halves. Not that it matters, now...but those were my thoughts at the time.

That looks like 2 more than we will win this year

2-14 0-16 suck is suck

This post has a serious case of Yeppers.

FAX

yeah.....your right......:(

I hate that we suck

Oh, so it's Sully's fault. No wonder his fat ass doesn't want to come to St. Joe... to Joe's house... because we would all kick his non-Jared-Allen-wanting ass.

ya, if Albert wasn't sucking then we probably wouldn't be complaining as much, but JA is one of the top defensive players in the entire NFL and letting him go sucks, it's hard to find players like him and because Carl refused to pay him, it does anger us.