Dallas Cowboys scouting report: Kansas City Chiefs
 

Dallas Cowboysscouting report: Kansas City Chiefs

01:40 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 7, 2009
By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News

Kansas City quarterback Matt Casseland running back Larry Johnson can't wear enough padding to protect them from the punishment they are taking each week.

The Chiefs are in the opening stages of a rebuilding program under new general manager Scott Pioli. He inherited a 2-14 team and tried to address the offensive and defensive lines during the off-season. He also acquired what he believes to be his quarterback of the future in Cassel.


But one area Pioli could not adequately address was wide receiver. Holdovers Dwayne Bowe and Mark Bradleyand veteran newcomers Bobby Engram and Bobby Wade share one common trait – a lack of game-breaking speed. They aren't going to run past anyone.

That allows defenses to single cover the two receivers on the flank and invest as many as nine players in run Defense and harassment of the quarterback.

So Johnson has nowhere to run and Cassel no time to throw. Cassel has already missed one game with an injury, and the Chiefs have allowed 13 sacks through four weeks.

Johnson brought a sterling 4.5-yard career average into the 2009 season. But he is averaging a paltry 2.6 yards in his 72 carries and is still looking for his first touchdown. This from a back who once scored 20 TDs in one season on his way to the 2005 AFC rushing crown.

The Chiefs are still searching for their first rushing touchdown of 2009. Baltimore's Willis McGahee has five touchdowns in 37 carries. The Chiefs have none in 109 carries. Kansas City's longest run is 24 yards by backup halfback Jamaal Charles.

When Cassel has time to throw, his receivers give him little after the catch. Bradley has a team-best 50-yarder, but he doesn't even start. Bowe's long is 29 yards, Wade's is 20 and Engram's is 18.

A lack of offensive plays has led to Kansas City's 0-4 start. The lack of offensive speed could make for another long afternoon Sunday against the Cowboys.

Well cant argue with that...

Welcome to the laughing stock of the NFL.

This guy could have saved an hour and just wrote "see a flaming pile of dog shit" as the scouting report for the Chiefs.

Or he could have wrote epic suck and copied and pasted until he reached his word count.
Posted via Mobile Device

This game could be worse than the Giant game due to team speed Dallas has on defense. I was watching bodies fly in Denver and kept thinking "Oh God, get the body bags"
Posted via Mobile Device

13 sacks already? Carp. I had no idea it was that many.:banghead:

Aaron Rogers has been sacked 20 times this season already.

He's averaging 274 yards per game, and 8.6 YPA.

Matt Cassel, on the other hand, is averaging 153 yards per game and a sparkling 5.1 YPA.

He did?

Haven't you heard?

Mike Goff is the greatest free agent acquistion ever, and giving up a draft pick for two scrubs that he could have gotten for free is the work of pure genius.

They addressed the o line by realizing McIntosh and Jones suck. They cut'em. LOL The writers when it comes to the 2009 Chiefs got nothing unless they just wanna say "suck!" It's like Pioli and Haley took charge of the Titanic 10 ft before it hit bottom. Of course it's their fault the it sank to start with.

The 2010 Chiefs? 'The Raising Of The Titanic'......Oh shit! I think we need more air bags!


PhilFree:arrow:

Aaron Rodgers has been under just about as much if not more pressure than Cassel yet he's made more plays...that should tell you something.

Come on.

The Executive of the Century hasn't done anything impressive since taking charge. Not one ****ing thing.

We were in bad shape. But it didn't have to be *this* bad.

Yeah you are right. It tells us that they have had the same offense for several years and the players on that team have a little clue about what's happening around them. Kinda like when Cassel won his starts last year.

PhilFree:arrow:

It tells me Rodgers makes plays...

I think he threw for more yards in a quarter the other night when he was getting hit and under constant pressure than Cassel has in the last 2 games combined.

....
Greg Jennings vs. Bowe?
Donald Driver vs. Wade?
Jordy Nelson vs. Bobby Engram?
Donald Lee/Jermichael Finley vs. Sean Ryan?

I don't care how much pressure he's under, until Cassel gets more than 1 legit receiving threat, all it tells me is that Rodgers has 10 much better teammates than Cassel.

We need that additional threat so that Cassel has someone else to throw behind.

Maybe it did if the direction of this franchise is going to be turned. I'm not happy about the suck but to truly change the Chiefs is gonna take a whole lotta of bad.

PhilFree:arrow:

It doesn't hurt that Rodgers has a much stronger arm and is more accurate, especially down the field.

I can't count the number of times Cassel has thrown a simple slant and been on the receivers back hip or shoulder, he did it to Bowe 3 times Sunday, then people wonder why he doesn't catch the ball.

It's true that a lot of these throws have sucked, but, to be fair, Bowe should catch some of these balls, especially if he's a "#1".

When a guy is coming over the middle short and he's about to get hit by 2 guys 1 of them being a LB and you're throw is making him reach back behind the odds of him catching it aren't good.

So it's Rogers vs Cassel? What about the rest of the players? There is no comparison that's worth the time. It's just silly at this point.

PhilFree:arrow:

Considering Cassel was named the franchise I'm going to compare him to other QB's and the other night the Packers were in a very Chiefs like position with their line and he dramatically outperformed Cassel.

It's not just the o line it's the WRs, TEs and RBs too. I'm not gonna give Cassel a freebie but I find it hard to judge him harshly at this point. If he starts to have time and mis plays then he's fair game. If he blows the reads or just misses his recievers when he should make the play then he's fair game. But right now there isn't a real good comparison. The circumstances are way to diffferent. Period..

PhilFree:arrow:

P.S. He wasn't never namded the franchise.

We've had the same problem for a few years. It's practically impossible to accurately evaluate a quarterback's play when they're working behind an o-line this bad. I guess you can give them points for surviving, but that's about it.

FAX

Agreed. I think people underestimate the fact that our offense is still new to our players. Give it time. There is something in the air around the Chiefs....and I don't mean the scent of our running game. I can't explain it with facts..but I feel we are on the road to good things. I just hope we don't drive past it.

We b shit .. but the stink is leaving slowly ...

So what is this, Sanchez revealed himself to suck shit so now the constant comparison is Aaron Rodgers? Did Pioli have the opportunity to draft Rodgers?
Posted via Mobile Device

ROFL

Revealed himself. Too funny.

This forum needs to step up it's ban policy on some of these reeruns we've been exposed to.

Evidence A for why the Chiefs could never develop a n00b QB.

And my favorite rebuttal to this is: the same people who want to draft a QB wouldn't give Thigpen a chance!!!

As if some afterthought from Coastal Carolina is an apt comparison to an elite prospect.

You're right. He was overated before Sunday. Sunday just confirmed it. But it is hilarious that it was always Cassel vs Sanchez until the Saints game and now its Aaron Rodgers.
Posted via Mobile Device

In addition, the Giants and Eagles rank #1 and #2 in passing defense, while the Vikings and St.That tells me that Rogers has been in that system and with his receivers a lot more than Cassel has. Familiarity with his receivers and knowledge of how they run their routes will lead to a higher degree of confidence in terms of getting them the ball.

It also tells me that GB is leaning more on Rogers because they, remarkably, have a worse running game than the Chiefs. (#22 versus the Chiefs at #18.)

It also tells me that the Packers have played against the following teams, which have their defensive rankings listed:

Minnesota: #1 sacks, #18 defense, #12 passing
Chicago: #3 sacks, #14 defense, #23 passing
Cincinnati: #4 sacks, #17 defense, #26 passing
St. Louis: #19 sacks, #19 defense, #19 passing

Whereas the Chiefs have played against:

Giants: #1 defense, #15 sacks, #1 passing
Philly: #3 defense, #9 sacks, #2 passing
Baltimore: #8 defense, #9 sacks, #23 passing
Oakland: #18 defense, #12 sacks, #11 passing

Basically, Cassel's numbers versus Rodgers numbers are pretty relevant considering the defenses that they've gone against.

Lets not really factor in that Rodgers can make throws that Cassel can't.

It's really amazing that you could be this much of a ****ing moron.

It really is.

Such as? Cassel has made a couple of real pretty touchdown passes this season that required a rather deft touch.

Sure, Rodgers has a cannon, but even Favre made his arm look like a limp noodle on Monday night by comparison.

I don't give a shit if Rodgers can throw bullets. Montana didn't have a cannon. Jim Kelly didn't have a cannon. Brady doesn't have a cannon. Fran Tarkenton didn't. Troy Aikman didn't either. However, Jamarcus Russell is purported to have a huge arm. Same with Jeff George. Kyle Boller as well. David Klingler.

It's not really a prerequisite in determining the overall success of a quarterback and team in this league.

Damn Pioli for not drafting Elway or Rogers! I can't believe he drafted Blacklege! The pain!!!!!!


PhilFree:arrow:

If you think game 4 confirmed anything about a n00b QB, I don't know what to tell you.

No matter how much you don't like it, Sanchez was/is an elite prospect.

And Rodgers' name has been thrown around on this forum for the last couple of years, as it became increasingly more clear that DJ was Scott Fujita.

The absolutely obtuse arguments some people make are so far out there they deserve bitch slaps.

The way Scott Fujita has been playing, I'd be really happy if DJ was Scott Fujita.

You're a little edgy tonight...

Wait, isnt GB the team that had the OT on their PS that everyone went crazy for when we (and 32 other teams) didnt claim him... yet theur OT suck ass and gave up 20 sacks already? What am i missing...

That's no shit.

I just insulted Fujita.

Buffalo signed him like 2 weeks ago making GB probably pretty upset he's gone.

I just dont understand why they would even risk it considering they blow... GB that is, why try to leave that guy on the PS...he wasnt good enough to be one of their best 4 OT?

It's more than just the QBs... I think the Packers have a better defense than KC. I also think the Packers have a better set of WRs.

I guess the question is this...would Aaron Rodgers make those plays here in KC? Would Matt Cassel look as bad in Green Bay? He looked pretty damn good last year in New England...

So what you are saying is Rodgers is 10 times the quarterback that Cassell will ever be.......


B b b b buutt Cassell went 11-5! He was amazing last year!


Cassell was a waste. Period. People got pissed when I compared the move to our former GM's moves.

You can say that for every position and every player from any team when comparing anything to the Chiefs.

On ESPN, Schlereth just talked about the "Upset Alert" for this week, and he nominated the Titans against the Colts, and the Chiefs against the Cowboys.

No matter if Cassel or Croyle is starting... You have a good backup QB. :)

Let me break down yours:

I'm butt hurt that we didn't draft Sanchez and made up my mind about Cassell after 4 games with a shitty OL, new HC, GM, OC and no real receiving threat.

Send me your PayPal and I'll buy you a Mark Sanchez jersey so we can just get this over with already.

It's not your fault we didn't draft Sanchez Mecca. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault.

http://phoenix.fanster.com/blackjesu...your-fault.jpg

Damnit, I forgot Colquitt, too!

So has WR become the #1 need in the 2010 draft?

Based on the first quarter performances, I think that team need is something like this:

1. Center
2. Guard
3. Inside "Will" linebacker
4. Tight end
5. Safety
6. Left offensive tackle
7. Punt/Kick returner
8. Right offensive tackle
9. Inside "Mike" linebacker
10. Wide receiver
11. Outside "Jack" linebacker
12. Fullback
13. Outside "Sam" linebacker
14. Cornerback
15. Kicker
16. Punter
17. Quarterback

Ok so its been decided. Pioli should have gone back in time and drafted Aaron Rodgers. Ok. I agree with that.
Posted via Mobile Device

It says Rodgers has Jennings & Driver.

The comparison is being made, dumbass, because everyone defending Cassel is saying, well, he doesn't have any time, he can't make plays or do anything with no protection.

Well Aaron Rogers is making plays and putting up yards in spite of the fact that he isn't getting any more time than Cassel's sorry ass.

And I'm sorry your dumb ass is too ****ing stupid to understand that.

I've watched all the Packers games and to say Cassel is getting the same time in the pocket as Rodgers is complete and utter BS. I know that Rodgers is taking some sacks and that the Packers line sucks but our line sucks much much much worse than theirs. I would swap our line for theirs any day of the week.