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Hammock Parties 10-07-2009 04:51 PM

NFL apologizes to Page
 
http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1029

Safety Jarrad Page said the NFL sent the Chiefs a letter acknowledging a mistake was made when Page was penalized for unnecessary roughness in last week’s loss to the Giants.

Page broke up a pass over the middle for wide receiver Steve Smith but was penalized for making helmet to helmet contact with Smith. Replays showed Page actually used his shoulder to hit Smith in the chest.

The Giants went on to score on a touchdown pass to Smith on the next play to take a 14-3 lead. They went on to win 27-16.

The league’s acknowledgment didn’t make Page feel any better.

"It doesn’t do us any good now," he said.

talastan 10-07-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6149485)
http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1029

Safety Jarrad Page said the NFL sent the Chiefs a letter acknowledging a mistake was made when Page was penalized for unnecessary roughness in last week’s loss to the Giants.

Page broke up a pass over the middle for wide receiver Steve Smith but was penalized for making helmet to helmet contact with Smith. Replays showed Page actually used his shoulder to hit Smith in the chest.

The Giants went on to score on a touchdown pass to Smith on the next play to take a 14-3 lead. They went on to win 27-16.

The league’s acknowledgment didn’t make Page feel any better.

"It doesn’t do us any good now," he said.


QFT

Reerun_KC 10-07-2009 04:52 PM

Gotta love the NFL, they dont care about who the **** when they fail... They will just send a love letter to appologize!

LaChapelle 10-07-2009 04:54 PM

Does he get to wipe the shit eating grin off Smith's face next time he sees him?

seaofred 10-07-2009 04:54 PM

I didn't see this coming... :banghead:

Gonzo 10-07-2009 04:55 PM

The refs are definitely earning their paychecks this year. That bs call for roughing the passer on Brady was a new low as well. IMHO they're ruining the sport.
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Agent V 10-07-2009 04:55 PM

He should get a free shot at the ref who threw the flag.

stevieray 10-07-2009 04:55 PM

those calls demoralize...

it's intersting how many times the chiefs big plays get called back, and how many times flags keep the other teams drives alive.

talastan 10-07-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6149505)
those calls demoralize...

it's intersting how many times the chiefs big plays get called back, and how many times flags keep the other teams drives alive.

I have to say that it is true the demoralizing factor of these calls, but most of the calls have been accurate; especially when it has been related with our O-line penalites. :shake:

WildTurkey 10-07-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6149505)
those calls demoralize...

it's intersting how many times the chiefs big plays get called back, and how many times flags keep the other teams drives alive.

It sure does seem to work out that way quite frequently

Fritz88 10-07-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6149490)
Gotta love the NFL, they dont care about who the **** when they fail... They will just send a love letter to appologize!

What would you suggest they do?
I know sending a letter is lame but going back and altering the game's result isn't an option either.

Time's Yours 10-07-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 6149517)
What would you suggest they do?
I know sending a letter is lame but going back and altering the game's result isn't an option either.

We should get to take one offensive lineman from the Giants as compensation.

The Franchise 10-07-2009 05:03 PM

Do the refs get fined? They should everytime the NFL has to send out one of these letters.

Easy 6 10-07-2009 05:04 PM

Going up against teh Mighty East Coast Giants, struggling KC was bound to get the 'Washington Generals' treatment from the refs.

It'll be that way against good teams 'til we garner some respect, the refs might just come right out & announce to the crowd before the cowboys game that they're gonna job us.

'pass interference Kansas City, 1st and goal at the 1, Dallas...thats right, suck on it people'.

KCChiefsMan 10-07-2009 05:09 PM

ya, we should fine their asses. That was complete BS. There should be a replay challenge for when the refs make an OBVIOUS terrible call

Radar Chief 10-07-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6149530)
Do the refs get fined? They should everytime the NFL has to send out one of these letters.

Agreed. In fact I’ll go a step further.
It’s absolutely ridiculous that with the coin the NFL brings in they use part time employees to referee games. There should be full time NFL employees answerable to a board of owners chaired by the commish.
There should be full reviews of each game and employees ranked on how they call a game.

morphius 10-07-2009 05:11 PM

you mean orange was wrong, shocking.

Mr. Laz 10-07-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 6149517)
What would you suggest they do?
I know sending a letter is lame but going back and altering the game's result isn't an option either.

the screwee in each messed up call gets to kick the offending ref in the pee pee.


seems to me the refs were pretty determined that the Giants were the good team and therefore should get the benefit of the doubt last sunday.

CoMoChief 10-07-2009 05:13 PM

Well I don't think this should apply because the ref was RIGHT THERE in the middle of the action.


Having that said, us as viewers have a better look usually as to what happens because the situation is different. We watching TV or sitting in a seat in the stadium/arena.

They're in live play looking at a hundred different things going on on one time. How many refs are there in an NFL crew, 7? So I know that each one has their own job to do. I mean you all know the saying that holding occurs on just about every play, its just whether you do it so much and it's obvious to where you get cuaght. But having to make judgement calls in live play is harder than most people think.

TrickyNicky 10-07-2009 05:14 PM

The punishment will probably just end up that they have to call Chiefs, Browns, Rams, and Raiders games the rest of the year.

Hydrae 10-07-2009 05:19 PM

If had been a helmet to helmet hit the NFL would have fined Page. I think in this case they owe him $5K.

WilliamTheIrish 10-07-2009 05:20 PM

So can we get the usual suspects to quit hiding behind the "NFL did a study and concluded X" as the reason this was called?

TrickyNicky 10-07-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6149582)
So can we get the usual suspects to quit hiding behind the "NFL did a study and concluded X" as the reason this was called?

I think it comes from when Boldin got double teamed in the endzone last year during that Jets shootout. He was hit in the back and face almost simulatenously and broke a cheekbone/orbital with a concussion. My guess is Goodell saw that and put it in his notes for next year.

Shag 10-07-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6149530)
Do the refs get fined? They should everytime the NFL has to send out one of these letters.

I imagine that would influence refs to leave the flags in their pockets more. While that might be nice for the fans, the NFL seems to want to go the direction of more flags...

philfree 10-07-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 6149574)
If had been a helmet to helmet hit the NFL would have fined Page. I think in this case they owe him $5K.

They owe me a refund as far as I'm concerned.

I don't like the way they are calling alot of helmet to helmet calls either. A pass rusher can rush the QB and sack him with his face up and if his face mask makes contact with the QB near his face mask or helmet they flag it. That's BS.

PhilFree:arrow:

Johnny Vegas 10-07-2009 05:33 PM

bummer

Micjones 10-07-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 6149503)
He should get a free shot at the ref who threw the flag.

Why? So the ref can go for 20 more yards and score?...wait...sorry.

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 05:55 PM

Mecca told us we would get called for that because he tackled high

Warrior5 10-07-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talastan (Post 6149511)
I have to say that it is true the demoralizing factor of these calls, but most of the calls have been accurate; especially when it has been related with our O-line penalites. :shake:

True. I think that fact pisses me off more than anything from last Sunday's game. In our house, during the 4th game of the regular season, I could maybe understand, at the most, one movement prior to the snap from our O-line. We got flagged at least four times.

Lack of discipline? Poor coaching? Head up the ass? Either fine players or fire the o-line coach. Someone needs to be held accountable because there's no excuse for it.:banghead:

EyePod 10-07-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 6149503)
He should get a free shot at the ref who threw the flag.

Realistically, they should be included in replay challenges. Maybe only certain ones, like helmet to helmet or something. I mean, a holding call is pretty hard to use and any given play has at least one hold. They could work on it somehow.

redfan 10-07-2009 05:59 PM

Hooray for our side.

ChiefsFan4Life 10-07-2009 05:59 PM

Pretty soon football isn't going to become a contact sport - this type of shit is ridiculous

Just like the booth handles the challenges inside 2 minutes the booth should be allowed at any time to challenge a penalty call that is obviously wrong

Megbert 10-07-2009 06:34 PM

If you see the Sunday night football promo on NBC you'll see 3 hits in a row that were equal too or worse than the hit Pollard got flagged for.

stlchiefs 10-07-2009 06:37 PM

Where is Orange? Interesting his dumbass hasn't shown up yet.

Deberg_1990 10-07-2009 06:46 PM

Wow, i feel so much better now. Here is what i would have liked to have seen:




Dear Mr. Page,

The NFL sincerly apologizes for the penalty that was called on you during your recent game against the Giants.

The crew that called this game has been fined $15000 each and if it ever happens again, they will be asked to leave the league.

The NFL always strives to ensure fair play for all teams, and will promptly take action against any miscues in the future.

Thank you for your understanding.

Jack 10-07-2009 06:50 PM

Rugby

Valiant 10-07-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 6149517)
What would you suggest they do?
I know sending a letter is lame but going back and altering the game's result isn't an option either.

Fine.. Each ****up per game is 15-20% of their game check..

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 06:59 PM

HEY, ORANGE! SUCK IT, BITCH!

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6149530)
Do the refs get fined? They should everytime the NFL has to send out one of these letters.

They should. When coaches bitch about officiating, they get fined.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6149562)
Well I don't think this should apply because the ref was RIGHT THERE in the middle of the action.


Having that said, us as viewers have a better look usually as to what happens because the situation is different. We watching TV or sitting in a seat in the stadium/arena.

They're in live play looking at a hundred different things going on on one time. How many refs are there in an NFL crew, 7? So I know that each one has their own job to do. I mean you all know the saying that holding occurs on just about every play, its just whether you do it so much and it's obvious to where you get cuaght. But having to make judgement calls in live play is harder than most people think.

I completely agree. To assure the correct call is made, the HC should have the right to challenge it.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149658)
Mecca told us we would get called for that because he tackled high

Impossible! Mecca is never wrong...

Deberg_1990 10-07-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6149530)
Do the refs get fined? They should everytime the NFL has to send out one of these letters.

My guess is yes. But the NFL doesnt advertise it. The do get graded, but they dont publish the grades of course.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZChiefFan (Post 6149690)
If you see the Sunday night football promo on NBC you'll see 3 hits in a row that were equal too or worse than the hit Pollard got flagged for.

No way. Mecca said it wasn't even the worse call of the day...

gblowfish 10-07-2009 07:23 PM

Refs did exactly what the league wanted. Let the bigger market team survive and advance. Sorry about that, Chiefs fans. Nice job on the stadium renovation, though...

dirk digler 10-07-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6149505)
those calls demoralize...

it's intersting how many times the chiefs big plays get called back, and how many times flags keep the other teams drives alive.

no kidding.

It was a horrible and demoralizing and I can't believe anyone could defend that BS call.

Valiant 10-07-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6149774)
My guess is yes. But the NFL doesnt advertise it. The do get graded, but they dont publish the grades of course.

They get graded, but the only difference is reffing playoff games or superbowls if you get good grades..


These guys basically have no negative on them if they **** up.. And they make bank for what they do, enough that they should lose some for big ****ups..

MikeMaslowski 10-07-2009 08:43 PM

I think they end up losing a bit of money if they repeatedly make poor calls. They then do not get selected as a crew for playoffs, SB or PB. Don't know if that makes any of the blood thirsty ref hating people happy. My thought is that it doesn't really matter too much, if we were in the thick of the playoff race and had a team worth a shit I might be flippin the fug out...oh well.

MikeMaslowski 10-07-2009 08:44 PM

I guess I should read prior posts before I just repeat the same shit huh...

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6149955)
I guess I should read prior posts before I just repeat the same shit huh...

Eh, I do the same thing. No biggie. This place is all about giving our opinion on things anyhoo...

RJ 10-07-2009 08:58 PM

The apology and $1.25 will get Page a 16 oz coffee at 7-11.

boogblaster 10-07-2009 09:07 PM

We've had our share of bad calls .. The thing about drive killing calls is BS .. If you watch interier line play holding could be called on damn near every play .. both teams .. seems like we always get the blunt tho ...

Bob Dole 10-07-2009 09:19 PM

Wow. Nobody here called that one...

philfree 10-07-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 6150008)
We've had our share of bad calls .. The thing about drive killing calls is BS .. If you watch interier line play holding could be called on damn near every play .. both teams .. seems like we always get the blunt tho ...

The Chiefs wear red...arrest me red!

PhilFree:arrow:

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 6150008)
We've had our share of bad calls .. The thing about drive killing calls is BS .. If you watch interier line play holding could be called on damn near every play .. both teams .. seems like we always get the blunt tho ...

I'll take a blunt anytime I can get one.

DumbHillbillies 10-07-2009 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6150046)
I'll take a blunt anytime I can get one.

Don't mention blunts, I'm an addict.

CaliforniaChief 10-07-2009 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 6149517)
What would you suggest they do?
I know sending a letter is lame but going back and altering the game's result isn't an option either.

Page should get one free cheap shot for use during the rest of the season. Let's say he clotheslines or horsecollars one of the Cowgirls this weekend and the flag is thrown...he just pulls one of these "free 15 yard Personal Foul" cards, hands it to the ref, and the play counts...no penalty.

Marcellus 10-07-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 6150008)
We've had our share of bad calls .. The thing about drive killing calls is BS .. If you watch interier line play holding could be called on damn near every play .. both teams .. seems like we always get the blunt tho ...

I saw at least 4 blatant holds against Hali and Vrabel that weren't called. The squish call was hilarious. I know that happens a time but this team is not good enough to over come bad officiating.

philfree 10-07-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6150046)
I'll take a blunt anytime I can get one.

Old man, cigar wrappers were not meant to be inhaled. Bunch of peeps will getting the lung cancer and it will be blamed on hemp. Take care of yourself and don't smoke blunts...........LOL


PhilFree:arrow:

RustShack 10-07-2009 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6150068)
Page should get one free cheap shot for use during the rest of the season. Let's say he clotheslines or horsecollars one of the Cowgirls this weekend and the flag is thrown...he just pulls one of these "free 15 yard Personal Foul" cards, hands it to the ref, and the play counts...no penalty.

Or he just hands them the letter he got from the NFL.

Saccopoo 10-07-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6150076)
I saw at least 4 blatant holds against Hali and Vrabel that weren't called. The squish call was hilarious. I know that happens a time but this team is not good enough to over come bad officiating.

Going back over the game for a second time, Vrabel has a right to be plenty pissed off. He was mugged. Might as well of had handles on his jersey the way they were grabbing him.

FAX 10-07-2009 10:04 PM

Apology letter? Unacceptable.

The NFL needs to set up a web site and give every Chiefs fan who signs up a free quart of single-malt scotch and a thousand dollar an hour Las Vegas hooker. If they do that, it would allow the matter to be settled, the league forgiven, and Page's name to be forever enshrined as the greatest Chief of all times.

FAX

4th and Long 10-07-2009 10:38 PM

The league needs to fine the stripes off of these guys when they screw up. If we can see it on instant replay, they should have the option of looking at it as well. Sure, they don't like to show the "controversial" plays on the large screen at the stadium, as it stands at the moment. Perhaps if they changed that policy and started showing them, these mental midgets could look up and say to themselves, "Self, I believe I may have made a mistake when I threw that flag. I had better go under the hood and make sure I don't get and IRS-like fine for making a colossal boo boo."

philfree 10-07-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 6150303)
The league needs to fine the stripes off of these guys when they screw up. If we can see it on instant replay, they should have the option of looking at it as well. Sure, they don't like to show the "controversial" plays on the large screen at the stadium, as it stands at the moment. Perhaps if they changed that policy and started showing them, these mental midgets could look up and say to themselves, "Self, I believe I may have made a mistake when I threw that flag. I had better go under the hood and make sure I don't get and IRS-like fine for making a colossal boo boo."

Ego!

PhilFree:arrow:

Christofire 10-08-2009 12:35 PM

Great hit, perfectly timed, bogus flag. But he doesn't even try wrap the guy up while he's making the hit. Seems like a bad habit that's going to cost us down the road if the receiver manages to stay on their feet.

Plus, I think if the ref sees his arms outstretched trying to make the tackle, it'll look less like a headhunting play at full speed.
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MVChiefFan 10-08-2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christofire (Post 6151527)
Great hit, perfectly timed, bogus flag. But he doesn't even try wrap the guy up while he's making the hit. Seems like a bad habit that's going to cost us down the road if the receiver manages to stay on their feet.

Plus, I think if the ref sees his arms outstretched trying to make the tackle, it'll look less like a headhunting play at full speed.
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Dude got blasted! No reason to wrap up on a hit such as that. It was perfectly legal and honestly, I think we need more of those decleaters around there.

Earthling 10-08-2009 12:51 PM

Best hit by our defence in a LONG time...I couldn't belive they cancelled it out with that bogus penalty. When I saw the hit I was thinking Haley should give Page an "atta boy" and tell him to hit like that every time. Damn ref...

L.A. Chieffan 10-08-2009 01:02 PM

Is there a gif or a link somewhere with this hit? I still havent even seen it

Lono 10-08-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 6151550)
Dude got blasted! No reason to wrap up on a hit such as that. It was perfectly legal and honestly, I think we need more of those decleaters around there.

Dude if you seriously think that he shouldn't have wrapped up on that hit you don't know jack. You NEVER, and I mean NEVER just go for the big hit without wrapping up. Every good coach will tell you that. Do we need people trying to slobberknock people? Sure, but the right way. I'm tired of big hitters, I want football players who do things right.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6151632)
Is there a gif or a link somewhere with this hit? I still havent even seen it

Gochiefs posted one. I can't remember where at the moment.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6151632)
Is there a gif or a link somewhere with this hit? I still havent even seen it

http://i36.tinypic.com/wv27g0.gif

Frazod 10-08-2009 01:28 PM

I'd like to shove this letter up the ass of the snickering fool that wrote it.

**** you and your apologies.

Coaches should be able to challenge penalties, just like plays.

Of course, that will never happen, since penalties are the league's game fixers.

MVChiefFan 10-08-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lono (Post 6151634)
Dude if you seriously think that he shouldn't have wrapped up on that hit you don't know jack. You NEVER, and I mean NEVER just go for the big hit without wrapping up. Every good coach will tell you that. Do we need people trying to slobberknock people? Sure, but the right way. I'm tired of big hitters, I want football players who do things right.

DUDE! It's one freakin' hit. Have you ever played football? I would say only a handful of reeruns on this board wouldn't know that "wrapping up" is the best way to tackle. Dear God. We're talking about one hit! And I'm tired of our players being pussies. So there ya go.


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