Get rid of ****ing LJ already...
 

the guys ****ing useless. cut his ass, trade him for a seventh round, eat the contract, whatever. louis carruthers could do a better job in the backfield.

Normally I chalk up posts like yours, LA Chieffan, to heated, post-loss overreaction. But this time, I honestly, couldn't agree more. I'm just sick of him. It's time to move on.

He's making too much money for what he's bringing to the table. This will be his last year in KC, and maybe his last year in the league. Shaun Alexander didn't get this kind of an opportunity, why should Larry?

this is definitely a repost, but it can't be stressed enough.. Eff you LJ.

add me to the camp...see you LJ

if he wasn't the best back, he would have been cut...we should all know that

larry can go suck a lemon for all I care

They need to split him out and have him play the mythical Bigfoot/Nessie position that was developed by the Vermeil brain trust for Kris Wilson. Larry has zero quickness or lateral ability from the tailback spot, but is effective when he gets into the second level of the defense. And he's ****ing horrid trying to block out of the backfield. They need to get him split out and get him against LB's in open space.

I am all in. Doesn't have enough skill or speed to be a factor. If you starting RB can't be a 40 yard threat then he should not be starting.

And to think, it was only a season or two ago he was the second comming in KC my how attitudes change :evil:

LJ is done. It's time to see if Charles can be a featured back. He is one if not the most explosive players on KC. I don't care how little he is, etc. He needs to get 15-20 carries (not just touches) every week from here on out.

Charles come in today and rips off a 10 + yard run and is nowhere to be found after that other than in the passing game. He has to be more involved.

Its time to hand Jamaal Charles the keys and sub LJ in or Savage in as a change of pace. There isn't one thing LJ can do better than Charles at this point.
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OK, LJ may not have it any more, but who in the f**k keeps calling his number. For Christ's sake use someone else. Let's see what else we got!

Its because LJ has changed. He's worthless now.

He's lost a step Charles won't hold up and Savage is even worse.

Charles had the best run of the day. I think that if he was given the ball he would get better. But yeah, enough LJ. Enough Cassel IMO.....if I see another 2 yard pass on 2nd and 16, I'm gonna throw up.

So is our offensive line, ... which might have something to do with everyone wanting to run LJ out of town on the next stagecoach.

Doesn't matter, LJ is of no use to us.

If our offensive line sucks, then we need a scat back...somebody who can make guys miss. LJ is not that guy.

oh he would be of great use tied up outside arrowhead for everyone walking by to get a few punches in.

I wish I had the time to run back through all the old LJ threads. At the time, I was tempted to stick it in my favorites and in hindsight, I should have. I recall you, Skip, touting LJ as the next Jim Brown.

We have a scat offensive line.

They shit all over themselves every down.

I was at the game today and there is literally nowhere to run. I was watching from the end zone in the upper deck, saw the plays develop and it is a cluster**** on the OL.

He has no chance. When he actually got holes last week he produced. This week there was NOTHING. Three yards and a cloud of dust was the best we could hope for.

how did the WR separation look today? was cassel missing open guy all over the place?

This is largely true. Larry is still done, but this interior line is so mother****ing bad that only Barry Sanders could produce behind it.

Niswanger and Goff must be cut. They just aren't NFL players, in any shape or form.

You don't need to be at the game to see that. It's in bright, vivid, colorful HD at home.

When you're running for your life on every down, any one with half a brain can expect a QB to have a hard time hitting receivers. Cassel got hit so many time today, by Wednesday, he should resemble a 3 week old banana.

Cassel missed a couple throws but overall I was pretty impressed today. It's pretty clear he holds the ball too long because no one is ****ing open. He needs to work on that, though, IMO. It was a problem today.

The end of regulation told me everything I needed to know about Matt Cassel, though. Absolutely awesome. He was squeezing the ball into tight windows, especially on that throw to Wade.

so he's holding onto the ball to try and make plays? big ben does it and he's the greatest but cassel? maybe if the WRs would GET OPEN SOMETIME he could complete some more passes(not directed at you go chiefs)

oh and thanks GC

Well Mitch and Len said earleir today that the Chiefs had to get LJ going. "The offense goes through Larry Johnson." I think someone needs to get word to the booth that 2005 was four years ago. He is DUN!!

He's actually worse than useless. He's a detriment. He does more harm than good. His ridiculous 1 yard runs are hamstringing Cassel every ****ing series.

Charles needs to be the every down back.

I wish he could get three yards. Charles obviously runs with more heart.

Well what I saw with LJ today was he would run right into the line and not change direction or try to find a hole.

Yes the o-line sucks but LJ does not have the ability to change direction to bounce to the outside once the hole closes in the middle.

Adrian Peterson would be getting his nuts kicked in behind this line. It's hard to fathom but this line is easily the worst I've ever seen in my entire lifetime of watching football.

Brian Waters is a shell of himself and Albert is having a slump. Albert is still a good player I don't care what anyone says. But from the center to the right tackle there is no push, there is no protection. So when you can't get any push from the center, which Niswanger can't, then the whole scheme breaks down.

Think about it from a defensive standpoint. If we had a defensive tackle that could collapse the center right into the backfield every snap, our defense would be able to....

a. stop the run
b. sack the QB because he would not be able to step up

Well, every week we make some nose tackle/defensive tackle tandem look like Jesus in cleats. When Niswanger and Goff are gone, the line will immediately improve. Hell, when Goff got hurt today Larry followed that up with his two longest runs. It's not a coincidence.

Might as well beat the **** out of the worthless bastard behind this piss-poor line and dump him like a dirty bar skank when the year is done.

We saw the same stuff 2 years ago. LJ could not find anywhere to run. Kolby Smith came into the game and made things happen behind the same damn offensive line that LJ couldn't make a yard behind. Kolby Smith... think about that for a minute.

Well, I can't believe I'm defending them, but take this into consideration...

They essentailly got a brand new playbook 2 weeks before the season and the current QB was hurt leading up to the season.

Meanwhile, new players are shuffled in and out which has to make it difficult for continuity.

They are thinking and playing passively. They have to react and attack and be instincive about the pickups they need when teams bring the blitz. They just don't pick up assignments well and you see that on TV.

Yes they are professionals and it shouldn't matter, but let's face it, they aren't super talented enough to get by on sheer athletic talent. They ARE likely good enough to be a decent line that works together, if they can get a little time in with this offense.
the talent needs upgarded to be sure, but they can play better.

They need a young dumb full of cum running back to punish the defenders. LJ knows he can't afford injury.

It looked t me all day that they were plugging up the middle cause they knew LJ wasn't going to bounce it. Even if he doesn't get any extra yardage how 'bout bouncing one out there to a least show a threat of it.

NO. KEEP HIM. HE OBVIOUSLY STILL HAS 'IT'.

When PH got hurt LJ had the luxury of a very good offensive line. One that many backs would look good with. Same thing when he was at Penn State.

I don't think he really has the vision of a top tier RB.

Don't all rb's need a solid line to look good

The offensive line hamstrings Cassel worse than LJ. Jesus Christ ...

no explosion, no speed, no blocking skills. YOURE DONE, SON.

There has to BE a hole in order to FIND one. When the gaps are filled by the defenders, that makes the task rather difficult, if not impossible.

Right, but a good rb will show something once in a while even with a bad line. More than once a game.

I just don't see his heart and his attitude isn't what a rebuilding team needs. IMO of course.

Yeah, pretty much. LJ has concrete boots on and can't hit his first hole(or lack thereof). But he's ****ing 240 lbs. and he isn't exactly quick anymore, so he's probably a bruiser, right? Hell no. He's soft as wonder bread. Dude won't block, is slow as shit, and won't use the one thing he's got going for him(size) to his advantage anymore. **** LJ.

LJ is done... I said earlier today that if Todd continues to keep LJ as our main back for 2 more games I wont like him as our coach anymore. Todd has made some terrible decisions this year all over the place. Starting with his depth chart. Ive been a fan of his since he came here but right now he needs to fix some things to gain my respect back again.

Bench LJ before he breaks Priest Holmes' Chiefs rushing record!

When you are met by 3,4, even 5 defenders at the line, and sometime 1 or 2 BEHIND the line, it doesn't matter if you're LJ, Barry Sander, Priest Homles or frickin Flash Gordon. You're dead meat.

After that statement, your motives are as transparent as glass. I can no longer take anything you say seriously.

Count me among the guilty 4th, i've made the same comparison in days of yore.

But i've come to the conclusion that Roaf & Shields were worth a yard per carry apiece.

He's just not getting lowdown & ramming his nose in there the way that he could & should oftentimes IMO. His legs seem to simply quit moving if he hasnt already gotten a good head of steam.

Its taken a long while & i have vacillated greatly...but i finally have to go with what i'm seeing.

LJ is all alll about what he thinks is good for LJ. I wouldn't care less if we could find an offseason trade. He'd be a great raider.

LJ doesn't have the vision.

Another thing, if Whitlock loves him you know he's not good for KC.

Guilty as charged. :p

Why? Cause I dont want some loser puke like LJ to take over the Chiefs all-time record.

I would rather see it stick with a guy that actually has given a **** about this team, and would never quit on plays.

It's hard to have "vision" when the only thing you can see, just milliseconds after the ball exchange, is the numbers on the defenders jerseys at point blank range. ;)

We should seriously send him to Oakland for a 6th rounder. Think they would go for it?

Unless it involves spitting...

Records are like fine china. They will eventually get broken. You may not like how it happens but rest assured, it will happen.

I know your right, I would just rather see a younger guy, maybe our next featured back come in and break it instead.

I was pissed when Emmitt Smith broke Walter Paytons all-time rushing record. I got over it, but Emmitt Smith is a better person than LJ also.

This.:clap:

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

I think Charles would be the guy right now if he could hold onto the freaking ball. The guy is cat quick and super fast but he forgets about ball security too much.

When LJ first got here only Penchief and myself wanted him to replace Priest. Priest got hurt and his ypc dipped into the low 3's. LJ's was around 4.6, comparable to Jim Brown. But he had speed back then, he doesn't now. He used to be able to run sweeps and beat the LB's to the corner and turn upfield. Not any more. He's never had any moves. I've never seen him spin. He used to get to the 2nd level and run away from or over DB's. Not anymore. I don't know if it is the foot injury or all those carries that did it but he just ain't got it any more.

Its a mix of all that, but most of all, its the will to want to do good and make solid efforts.

You dont think Larry giving zero effort on 1st and 2 down leaving Cassel with 3rd and impossible on nearly every ****ing series isnt hamstringing him? Gimme a break. Yes this line is atrocious, but Larry DOES NOT TRY.

HE HAS NO HEART.

And hes killing this offense.

Ahmen!! Im off to try to forget about todays game....

Tell ya what, Einstein, if you believe that effort is the problem, you go right ahead and latch on to the thought and live content in the fact that your are smarter than most football experts. I'm not sure what color the sky is in your little world but I hope it's pretty.

I live in So Cal and the sky is beautiful 99% of the time. Coincidentally, that is the percentage of braincells you lack.

Unless you have a copy of my latest CT or MRI, you have no foundation to stand on, Mr. Left Coast.

Did you even watch the game today? On one of the few runs where he got a lane to run, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

How can you forget so soon.

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I'll say it again. LJ is no Kolby Smith. That speaks volumes.

Thats marvelous GC. You're living in the past dude.

What?

Kolby Smith can't even get ON THE FIELD.

The amount of ignorance on this board in regards to LJ is ASTOUNDING.

Exactly.

The time fort that was a few years back. Instead they (Carl and Herm) chose to pay LJ and trade JA. :shake: Morons.

I think LJ is done but even if you're in the camp that it's all the O-line's fault, what could the change hurt?

The dude is averaging 2 something per carry.

Switch it up. We have nothing to lose. Give Charles the start.

Kolby is on the PUP list. Smith has done better the past two seasons when he has been on the field at making something happen that LJ has been able to do.

What? I'm sorry I can't hear you. LJ's 2.4 YPC and ZERO TDs is drowning everything out.