2009 Denver Broncos....the WORST 5-0 team in NFL history?
 

Ok...so they're probably not the worst in history, but I'd call them the worst undefeated team left this season. There are a lot of 1 loss teams I'd take over them. They have 2 legit wins against horrible opponents and their other 3 are come from behind luck-outs. This is just my opinion, but I doubt I'm in the minority.

I'd trade places with them in a heartbeat. I'd much rather be the worst 5-0 team, than possibly the worst 0-5 team.

I think their defense has been pretty solid, and their offense is ok. I think it will get better with marshall out there more now.

I still think they should be a 3-2 type of team, but they are 5-0 can't take that away

I think they are better than we want to believe. 5-0 isn't easy for an average team and good teams know how to win in the 4th quarter. I don't think they are as good as Minnesota...but they have proven so far to be pretty good.

LMAO

Yeah, I make fun of them constantly. Poseurs.

I just can't bring myself to throw any smack, considering we are 0-5. That would be about like Michael Spinks getting up and calling Mike Tyson a pussy back in the day, after getting knocked out in the first round.

The first game was a fluky win, but aside from that, they've legitimately been playing well. I've watched every game with my in-laws, and I hate to tell you - they are likely going to make the playoffs and might even win a game or two.

Yes.

2009 Chargers: Best 2-2 Team of all time.

obsessed with denver much?

ROFL

Call it whatever you need in order to numb the pain...

The Colts are 5-0 and they have the great Peyton Manning, but none of their 5 wins are against a team with a record better than .500 - yep, that's right they haven't beaten a team with more than 2 wins through 5 weeks. They've dominated the spare teams... good for them.

Denver is still in their learning curve and they've played well enough to beat the teams they were supposed to beat and they knocked off a struggling Dallas team and the Patriots.

They dominated the Patriots in nearly every category except for the turnover battle and won.

They shut out Dallas and the Patriots in the 3rd and 4th Quarters... they're not doing much to defeat themselves right now and that's good.

Are they legit contenders to win the division? Yes, because SD has struggled and they have a nice advantage at this point.

Are they legit contenders to win the AFC? Not yet... they have a long road.

The 2009 Chargers are about to become the greatest 2-3 team of all time.

I think your opinion is based in emotion and not fact.

Denver is a very good football team. A YOUNG football team.

It's quite obvious that they're going to be good for a very, very long time.

They win games. Unlike the Chiefs.

They remind me of the Chiefs when we went 9-0 before limping into the playoffs and losing. They even got their first win under freakish circumstances. They got a Sports Illustrated cover like us, too. (only took them 4 wins, though)

We'll see... things are going well, but I want to see what happens when this team gets kicked and can't get back up. How do they respond? They're going to lose games... it's a matter of when at this point, so I'm prepared for reality... I hope they are and I hope when it happens, they respond accordingly.

Making Denver the worst 6-0 team of all-time

Damn - I forgot about the SI cover... wow, they avoided the jinx.

Yeah, it must suck to be "the worst undefeated team".

It couldn't compete with the spell you guys must have cast on Brady. Pretty amazing that you guys are the only team he has a losing record against.

This was my first thought. Who are we kidding? Cincinatti who is 4-1, New England, and Dallas. Sure they played the Browns and Raiders, but this team has beaten 2 teams considered top contenders in their conference and probably the most surprising team of the year in the Bengals.

It's time to quit talking shit. I don't like it any more than any of you but Denver is for real. They could compete for the Super Bowl this year.

Tap the brake a bit and stop throwing out the anti-mojo so early... :eek:

I think that's a stretch, but not by much. I know there's a whole chicken and egg effect when it comes to discussions like this, but neither New England nor Dallas looks like a legit contender this year. I still think Denver will struggle against teams like the Giants and Colts. I predict Denver makes the playoffs, but loses their first game. But, you never know when they might get a couple of lucky bounces, so their making it to the big game isn't out of the realm of possibility.

I'm more worried about their long-term prospects honestly. They're young and improving. They could be scary in the next 5 years. Dammit.

I'll bet the call in radio shows in Denver are just littered with negative overtones today because they quite possibly are the worst 5-0 team in the NFL.

LOL at your bullshit.

I think we should just move on and start saying the Raiders suck.

I guess the consolation is that the Chiefs are irrefutably the best team that hasn't won a game yet.

Huh? The year the Chiefs went 13-3? Are you sure you watched that season?

That Patriots are 15-2 all-time in Denver. Heck..John Elway was 16-0 against no matter where they played. Brady's fiarst game against was a 4 int masterpiece of domination.

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Hey you know what, the 2001 Patriots at the time were also the "worst" NFL champs in NFL history, but they ended up establishing a dynasty. A W is a W, and we need to start finding players who are going to produce W's...

yep

That offense was awesome with a ridiculously great running game. The defense was bad, but still....hhad you not had to play the colts you could have gone deep and maybe won the whole thing.

Ouch....touchy subject. I never said they were bad....not like "us" bad. I just said out of the remaining undefeated teams, in my opinion, they're the worst one left. Sometimes it takes luck to win games.

it sickens me to say it but the Broncos have overcome extreme adversity in the off season and are playing very good football.
They traded off their star QB, got a QB in there that everybody thought would lay down and do nothing. I hate em and hope they lose every week but they are making the most out of the talent on their team, unlike 2 other teams I can think of.

LMAO Was that a clip of Josh McDaniels at his last job right around the :30 mark?

My only hope is that they turn into the NY Jets of a couple of years ago and are a one year wonder.

I hate that the Chiefs are o-fer but to add red hot salt to the wound is Denver being undefeated.

Nobody knows... you're prediction is based on what you hope happens. Just like those that predict a mid/late season fade. This isn't the Broncos' team of the last few years. Nobody knows what they will be in a month... they could be 5-5, 7-3, 6-4...

The Cowboys certainly have their issues - I think a lot of it is their coach, they have a lot of very nice players. And the Pats aren't legit contenders? Get outta here with that craziness...

They're a bit out of synch with Brady at times, but they're still very good. Their Oline took a hit yesterday, their ground game has no true threat (but that's nothing new, they've never really had a consistently dominant RB) and they have a liability in the secondary with Springs... but, they're still very good.

If Denver can win @ San Diego this week - and that's a huge IF ... we all know how the AFCW divisional home games fare most of the time ... but IF Denver can beat the Chargers on Monday Night, then the sky is the limit.

If Denver can walk into week 7 with a 4 game lead in the division... many will point to 2008 and say "it can happen again", but I don't see that kind of quit in this team.

But, I won't worry about that until after the game. San Diego is a huge threat on their home grass... we'll see. The Chargers have defeated the Raiders and Dolphins (combined 2-7) ... losing to the Ravens and Steelers (combined 6-4).

I definitely like Denver's chance to win in week 6, but it certainly won't be easy.

ROFL Ohhhh, so that's what you were saying... I thought you were asking if they were simply the worst 5-0 team in NFL HISTORY... not of those remaining undefeated teams in 2009.

The thread title was just to reel you in ;) I'm sitting here bored at work...just figured I'd spark up a little banter.

Sometime we'll say anything to justify the donkeys being good in our brains won't we.

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This. It just ain't fun right now. I might get fired up before December though...

This kind of petty jealousy really doesn't make you look good, you know that of course?

The '74 Patriots started 5-0 and ended 7-7. The '87 or '88 Chargers, forget which startrd out like that and ended up .500 I think. Denver is playing over their heads, but there have been worse.
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It certainly helped that they started out the season against such lightweight competition. Sort of like Kansas's non-conference schedule.

I wasn't saying they weren't good. The 2009 Broncos look good too. It was more of a feeling I have that they will deflate as the year goes on and disappoint in the playoffs, like we did.

I'd like to say I wish you better luck than we had... but... well you know.:evil:

The NFL is a weird deal... the Redskins haven't faced a team yet that has won 1 game, but that hasn't helped them at all.

Cincy, Dallas and NE (3 of the 5 opponents) have 4, 3 and 3 wins.

Again, this could very well happen...

BTW I should hate Garcia Bronco and Mile High Mania. Between these two and a couple guys I work with being totally reasonable Broncos fans, it makes it slightly more difficult to keep up my blind seething hatred of the Donks. Don't get me wrong, I do. It just isn't as pure as it used to be. Shanahan leaving and us not even being competitive might have something to do with it too.

most of their own fans whined all offseason.

nobody saw this coming...

even though, it still sucks..

I pouted quite a bit... never whined though, at least I don't think I did. McD has forced me to change my opinion of him and that's good. I am surprised that he appears to have broken the will of Marshall and that's good.

and the Redskins have us coming up. :D

....feel free to use your own verb.

There's no middle ground with you, is there? Either someone's gonna be challenging the Dolphins to go undefeated or they're this close to completely collapsing and ending up .500. Jesus Christ...

If we lose this one I might have to quit the NFL for the year...




...except for the Chargers game I'm going to.:doh!:

If they had Cutler, they would be a legit Super Bowl threat. Orton is just like what we had in the 90's, good enough to win in the regular season, bad enough to choke in the playoffs.

Well, I certainly don't expect us to win it.

We're not only bad, we're also unlucky.

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You're an idiot.

I love that picture. LMAO

His point was that the Broncos AREN'T as bad as those teams. He was refuting the thread title, methinks.

Yeah, Kansas should try and schedule powerhouses like Mizzou does. Has Illinois won a game yet? Bowling Green, Furman and Nevada would make Pete Carrol shake in his boots.

at Illinois W 37-9 1-0
Sept. 12, 2009 Bowling Green W 27-20 2-0
Sept. 19, 2009 Furman W 52-12 3-0
Sept. 25, 2009 at Nevada W 31-21 4-0
Oct. 8, 2009 Nebraska L 27-12 4-1 (0-1)

Hee hee, I always use it. One of my favorites.

Hey, Illinois backed into a BCS game in 2007. Apparently that's a big deal. :D

I think they have all "Zook" players now, they really suck. Northwestern is the local football powerhouse now. ROFL

Hey, you want to come over Sunday and watch the game? We might actually have a chance to beat the Deadskins.

Who cares if they are the worst 5-0 team they are 5-0. I'd argue the 2003 Chiefs were the worst 5-0 team though.

The sad part is they have already won more games this year than the Raiders and Chiefs combined likely will.


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Thanks again for the invite Tim. I have golf until the snow flies or it just gets too darn cold. I look forward to it when that happens though, maybe Denver?

Due to the freeze, we didn't get done until 3 yesterday, we had over a 2 1/2 hour frost delay.

It sucks watching the game after you already know they lost in overtime.

Looks like it is supposed to be really nice Sunday.

Okay. I knew you were a golfer. I didn't realize you were an insane golfer. :D

I am still out there hitting this season. Love Golf.

We have a guy here who would play golf in a blizzard if he could. I don't get it, but he sure enjoys it, so more power to him.

Prior to Sunday, I thought Denver had no chance if Orton was forced to pass often... the last thing I wanted to see was Orton with 30+ attempts. I figured if that happened "the worst would come true". The bottom line is that I didn't give him the respect he obviously deserved.

Many are blaming Brady for the passes he missed and making a few weird decisions... but many are also not giving Orton the praise for making great decisions and some great passes. The passing attack wasn't littered with dink and dunks, they took legit shots down field and across the middle and he put the ball right where it needed to be the majority of the time.

Orton will never be confused with Peyton and that's fine... but don't pass him off as Peter Tom Willis... the guy can play. Interestingly enough, yesterday was the first game he played without the glove and insert to protect his finger. I liked what he did a great deal.

If he can play like that going forward... who needs Cutler? Winning is more than just having a prolific QB... this team is winning because of the defense and the sound play of the offense. They're not in line to win a scoring title and that's fine... because the defense isn't letting the other team be prolific either and this is something that Denver hasn't had in quite a while.

Oh yeah, I would much rather be doing that than anything else. We used to have "two hat" days back in Kansas, two stocking caps.

Pretty soon, the weather will suck so bad it will only be a memory.

But I am not much longer for this frozen crap. It won't be long, and we will be headed south!:D Once Obama redistributes some wealth my way.

As a Patriots fan, I gudgingly have to agree with this. Although...

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True, maybe. I thought the Titans were gonna be good again this yr.

2003 Chiefs had a great offense.

Denver this season....not so much.

I still think Orton will tank.

Marshall is gonna have 300 yrds against our secondary...

We've all seen teams with one great dimension (offense or defense) suffer in the long run because they were lacking on the other side of the ball. So far, Denver has done what they needed to do on offense to win... thanks to a defense that has bent a little, but they haven't broken.

Sure, I would love to see the offense consistently put up 28 points and not leave me biting my nails in the final minutes... but, I'll take it and hope that both sides keep improving.

The 2003 Chiefs were #2 in total offense and #29 in total defense.

The 2009 Broncos are #6 in total offense and #2 in total defense.

Which team is likely to fare better?