How pathetic.
 

Mid season, looking to talk Chiefs... and all anyone is talking about is who we can trade.... and what kind of draft picks we will have.

It is freaking October... we have a game coming up against a mediocre team and we have no confidence that we will win against them.... a team that will lose its head coach soon because they suck.

I am not calling out the fans here... just realizing how pathetic this team has become. What a freaking joke.... a bad joke... a painful joke... a joke that makes me cry a little when I lay down to go to sleep.

Pathetic.

Didn't you just start a thread stating trading Dorsey would help reach the salary floor?

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Oh it is pathetic. I cant wait for the Jazz to start their season. Just like the past 2 seasons following the NBA from the start, cause the Chiefs are that bad

We suck so bad this is all we are left with...

Yes. Again, I am not calling out the fans. It is the only thing that we have to talk about right now.

We're going through growing pains. Oddly enough none of this bothers me that much.

Just looking forward to Jayhawk basketball....

Process.

Get over it.

We should get smilies for these empty phrases.

I understand that.... but even last year, there was more 'hope' on a week to week basis.

It is like the hope has been just beaten out of us.

I have hope. I hope we have 10 picks in April.

REBUILDING.

Get over it.

That is all.

I don't mean to completely hang this on the current regime. I do think they could have done a few things differently.... but I am willing to give them a shot.

It just sucks that football is my hobby. I own a small business, have two kids, a wife, and this is really the only 'me' time I get.

And, I am stuck watching a suck ass team. I know it is suck ass... and it still hurts every time they lose.

I think I will try heroin... it has to be better for me.

Herm gave us better Coors Light commercial material last year every week...
:D

There was no hope for me at all after we got destroyed by the Panthers last year.

Every week after that I hoped for a loss because it was clear Herm was clueless...

This week's game gave me some hope that we're on the right track.

I have yet to see anything that makes me think Haley is any better than Herm. I see just as many boneheaded decisions on Sunday.

More material for next seasons Coors light commercials...:D

What is Pathetic is going to Arrowhead and watcing Haley choke away 2 very winable games-worst coach ever!! Yes worse than Herm!!

Haley has no balls-yes try the trick play big deal-but win it counts he just tries to draw play against a stacked line-that is PATHETIC!!

People see what they want to see.

I don't really think you can judge coaching when we're dealing with this sort of void in talent.

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Players make plays...How did Haley cost us the game last Sunday? If we missed the two point conversion you'd be saying the same thing.

WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS TO BE COMPETE.....GET OVER IT ALREADY!

i'm in the same spot. the chiefs are "me time" well except on sundays. we watch most games together. i like to call it family football sundays, the wife usually sleeps but the girls love to watch with me.

the play calling was embarrassing. We get the ball in overtime at the 50 and he runs a draw play for the 50th time-I think we moved the bal 1 yard_THAT cost us.

3rd quarter we are driving on D and we get to the 30-then he tries some silly plays instead of pounding the ball for the 3 yards we need..we settle for a field goal.

Is Cassel not allowed to audible-like when he sees a stacked line-safeties up and the play is LJ draw up the middle-WTF??

First off, it wasn't a draw play. It was a straight dive play.

2nd off, he threw, then ran, then passed.

If Haley throws on every down he gets criticized. If he mixes in a run to keep the defense honest he gets criticized.

Coaching the 2009 Chiefs is the Kobyashi Maru. A no-win situation.

Dude, you might want to take a few weeks off from watching football.

The Chiefs have piss poor talent throughout the roster.

This is why they lose.

Bad teams can not attract quality free agents, so they keep losing.

Get ready for years upon years of pathetic.

No way around it now.

And Just think, we were 85% complete just a few short months ago... ROFL

an 8 year veteran coach vs a 1st year coach???

Seriously?

Isn't it amazing that he ran so slowly that it looked like a draw?

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Players make plays...How did Haley cost us the game last Sunday? If we missed the two point conversion you'd be saying the same thing.

WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS TO BE COMPETE.....GET OVER IT ALREADY!

Larry didn't run slowly. Let me describe what happened to you.

Larry took the handoff, took two steps, and stared the Cowboys' defensive lineman who had beaten Rudy Niswanger in the face. At that point the play was over.

**** you mother****ers who bash Larry Johnson.

Over, nothing is over till we say it is. So now we have to draft a running back also. F***. Well in 3 years the rebuilding will be over.

My friend who likes the Cowboys said to me after that game "why does your team keep giving the ball to Larry Johnson when he looks like a piece of shit out there?"

Basically anyone defending LJ at this point doesn't realize what he is.

With the blocking we have .. Charles would be my RB with LJ on 3rd and short only ...

You know better than Todd Haley I guess.

Todd Haley also keeps running Mike Goff and Rudy Niswanger on the field...and went into a game with both backup OT's inactive...oh and he put in a new offense a week before the season.

At this point his track record is pretty shitty.

Hate to agree with the meat-peeker but he's right.

LJ has played great for us this year in both aspects of the passing game as well as the running game.

Such is life after the debacle that was Herm ****ing Edwards...

The fact that you see that as a negative says a lot about your typical opinions concerning the Chiefs.

Yep. No RB in the league would look good behind the twisted shit we call an OL. The ironic thing is LJ IS earning his money this season.

He's talking about the timing as being a negative, and he's right. It negates most all of the work in the offiseason.

Says alot about his management skills.

He was supposed to have a crystal ball and know Gailey's offense wouldn't mesh before preseason, eh?

I couldn't care less about the timing of a move in year one...the season was over before it began...maybe we lost a game or two we should have won because the offense wasn't installed...so what?

It's about making the right move for the long term. Some of you can't see the forest for the trees.

That was false hope. Now we know better. We're much wiser now. And on Sundays we drink lotsa BUD wisers too.

Nope. But he said there were signs early on that it wasn't gonna work so he should have made the change then and not a couple of days befire the season started.

The "timing" thing might be a pattern with him. If that's the case it says a lot, & it's not good.

Don't talk about seeing the forest through the trees. You were in Herm's camp, which proves you can't see a problem until it kicks you in the nuts...

So we are going 0 and 16?

We keep on hashing the same move over and over. Gailey was not the answer, so why keep him around. It would make no sense for Haley to keep him knowing he has no confidence in the system. This is the same argument that kept Grob in place for so long.

Common ****ing sense would dictate otherwise.

He made a horrid team of castoffs and backups an offense. Not a great one or a dominant one but something that could score enough to win.

Haley has an entire offseason of draft picks, trades (hold on, WE'RE NOT DONE YET!1!) and free agents to change his team. Have we really done better on offense? And just exactly WTF did Chan do to get fired?

Outside of a horrible preseason I can't think of anything...

That's a move that is made in January or February not August.

But that was Clark's fault for wanting to keep Chan as OC, right GoChiefs? :cuss:

Played great? He's averaging 2.6 ypc this year. That is out of the league bad. The reason he slams into the line so often is that he lacks the speed to bounce it outside like most RB's do. The meatpeeker is FOS once again.

And that just goes back to our organization being cheap...

LO ****ing L!

The beginning of the Royals part Deux? There is an uncapped year right around the corner........

Be fair...this goes back much further than Herm.

From Gunther on, the Big Picture plan for this team has been 3rd string jerkwater bullshit...we didnt arrive at this point in Herms few years.

I love this oft-repeated line. Just bounce it outside! Instant yards!

You people act like defenders aren't playing the outside gaps. I suppose you all think we have beastly tackles who have those edges sealed off every play, too.

Even fast running backs don't bounce it outside every time the middle is sealed up...that's because it's a good way to get taken down for a loss instead of picking up a yard or two.

You know, I'm guilty of over evaluating. But seriously, everybody is wearied with the three years of "rebuilding" with Herm that was a debuilding. We're just going to have to deal with this process. Everybody was chanting the praises of change and preparing for some rough. Now, they're freaking over what we knew was coming. It is what it is. we just have to wait and see. period. we go 0-16 he's out. Other than that, let's give it some time. 10 games into the season, it will still be early for this regime.

We thought we got the better HC than Denver. McDaniels inherited a mediocre team, screwed around with it and is still 5-0 after beating the Cowboys and Pats. We thought Denver would be like 1-4, even with their weak schedule. Instead, they are 5-0.

Our Boy Wonder inherits a crappy team, granted, but he can't even beat the Faiders, the laughing stock of the NFL. I wasn't expecting greatness this season, especially with the tough part of the schedule in the opening weeks, but I have to wonder whether Gailey could have done worse. The LJ runs up the middle, not even following the FB, were predictible and pathetic. The trick plays were the only thing that have permitted me any hope for Haley's offensive accumen. He'll look better against the Raiders the second time, and we'll beat the Browns probably. We might even beat the Redskins this week, as their O-line is in even worse shape than ours. Hell, I could get pressure on Campbell with their line and I'm over 50 years old.

True. But do not belittle Herm's contrubitions to this mess. He had a lot to do with it.

so now we are looking at another 2-3 years? to rebuild

Sure, Herm simply wasnt getting it done, 6 wins in 2 seasons, Epic Fail...what i will give him credit for, is recognizing that this team needed a frame-up restoration & going for it with the right basic plan...defense, run, clock...but just didnt have the acumen to pull it all off.

Also, his drafts were much better than any of Gun or Vermeils IMO.

But, his 'offensive offense' @ Indy pretty well sealed his fate with me.

Give Herm another year and a good O.C. He would of got the job done. Herm was just starting to rebuild.

You will never get me to defend Herm Edwards's coaching but his rebuilding was heading in the right direction. It was not debuilding, he was doing it right. Now his coaching flame all you want at it.

All Herm needed was a pass rusher.

yeah probably...

Any GM and HC with an 1/8 of a brain would come in and rip the heart out of FAIL that Carl and his band of monkeys held dearly too....


I hope they rip this ****ing thing down to the first 22 midgets off the street and start over...

20 year of epic suck fail is hard to overcome...

Jared Allen?

Wonder who Herm would have drafted in the 09 Draft

His YPC is a complete reflection of him, and only him, once him gets on the field. He punches the defensive lineman in the spleen and forces them to wilt behind the pure force of HATE that is his drive to win.

It has nothing to do with Haley's "I'mma run 6 draws in a row!1!" nonsense or how he just somehow vanishes for most of a quarter.

If he was honest Haley would admit that he should have hired a different OC before the season, never fired Chan, or never taken over...

Herm needs to be in college football coaching.

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Yes at Missouri....

Sanchez, it would have given him an excuse to stick around even longer.

That was all on King Carl. :cuss::cuss:

My guess is Aaron Jesus Curry

Sanchez would be on IR by now....

Herm's lack of talent evaluations especially on the OL were brutal for QB's

We scored a lot more TD's with Herm.

He did have one! His name was Jared Allen. :spock:

King Carl you can blame. :spock:

You continue to show your stupidity. Good RB's don't run straight into the ass of their Olinemen. They look for cutback lanes or go outside. There is usually somewhere to go but you will not find it by falling down like LJ does. You will not stay in the league @ 2.6 ypc, period. Sorry, GoChiefs, you jumped on his bandwagon after he was done. Typical of you.

who drafted J.A?