Haley changes WR coach
 

Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley has made another staff change, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson.

Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006.

Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday.

“Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision making are trying to find a way to get things right,’’ wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done.

“But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.’’

Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference.

“They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),’’ Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) . . . where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays and plays to build on for those guys and for us.

“Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.’’

Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring.

The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start.

But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in a recent game against the Giants.

The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason.

Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game.

Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped.

Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach.

Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way.

“In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,’’ Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability.

“So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.’’

Posted on Thu, Oct. 15, 2009 05:41 PM

A former fullback is coaching our wide receivers?

What?

Here's hoping we get a real WR coach in the offseason.

This should have been done in May.

Awesome! I now predict an 11 win season!

OC or QB coach?

Yeah but he played for the Jets when Pioli and Haley were there.

That's all that matters.

Will we have any assistant coaches by the end of the season?

Ritchie Anderson was a darn good receiving fullback though.

Now maybe Dedric Ward can come back to Missouri State and coach. Our WR's have sucked ass since he went to the Cardinals.

Dedric Ward did too ROFL

These types of moves, mid-season, don't suggest desperation, just to clarify.

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I know jack squat about either the gentleman canned or the guy hired as WR's coach but Haley's ****ing erasing a lot of players and coaches both.

With all the different WR's run through here I'm not sure WTF Haley expected...

This actually encourages me. Sounds like Haley isn't going to blindly support a coach if said coach isn't getting the job done. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new OC and DC in here next year once good coaches become available. Clancy better watch his back...

Now I am starting to think Haley is a dumb#!!*

Last year Anderson was fired (let go) because he was caught by undercover police soliciting a call girl at the South Mountain Resort --and he was replaced by Dedric Ward. BTW, dude is married with children.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/85720

Is this some sort of weird deja vu?

Que Romeo Crennel

just goes to show that this year MIGHT just be an audition year after all

I'm starting to wonder if Haley knows wtf he's doing or is he so emotional he just runs around changing things whenever something isn't going right. He doesn't necessarily fix the problem, but simply tries something new. I've never seen anything like the firings and carousel roster moves that have taken place this year.

So why is Krumrie still employed?

no one escapes the rath of Todd.

This is what worries me.

The more i see Haley, the more he reminds me of Gunther Cunningham.

ranting and raving lunatic that is generally full of shite.


i hope not

"Haley changes the playbook", "Haley changes his underwear", "Haley changes this that and the other". How about "Haley changes the losing streak by changing Center and Right Guard" for ****s sake..

I'm convinced Krumrie has compromising photos of Clark Hunt, and is now effectively the underboss of the organization.

It's always nice to have a bigger d!(k than you around.

Kind of like the average girl being friends with someone who's azz friggen ugly...

I'm not too worried about this move. The one thing he does know is receivers and I'm sure if he demoted Ward for Anderson, he thought Anderson coached receivers more in his style.

I'm a lot more upset about not having a QBs caoch and some kind of a consultant for an OC.

Absolutely Tone...

I can totally hear Gandolfini saying your post to Paulie Walnuts.

Haley?

How about a change on the ****ing defensive line coach? Or a ****ing defensive coordinator?

Coaching is a game too .... now who is playing and who is coaching is anyones guess ........

This franchise is becoming more and more of a ****ing joke as days go by.

Yakkity Saks.

What?

Try something that makes sense?

You must be high.

Makes sense to me...:shrug:

Why would the defensive coordinator be on the hot seat?

When the defense can play 3 quarters and Haley's offense only plays about 1/2 of one it's hard to throw stones.

To the Arm Floatie!

Please read it closely.

I was saying it makes sense.

It was dripping in sarcasm.



Do you need a new meter?

Everything is going to be alright.

No it isn't.

I have questioned that since he was retained. I truly believe Clark told them that they had to keep him. Maybe this off season, that will change.

This is true.

After 0 you start encountering imaginary numbers...

Our receivers suck, and Haley made a change.

I'm not thrilled that a RB is now coaching the WRs, but oh well.

At least he is making changes. This gives me hope Pender****head is gone after this year.

If Haley chooses any one particular piece of this franchise to monitor in critical detail, I'd hope like hell it was the wideouts.

Next season we'll have a new OC, a new DC, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if Haley keeps this piece for himself come 2010. I kind of hope he does. Like a former coach who shall remain nameless, who lacked every single character trait otherwise, I think he has a discernible strength in one particular area and we are fools not to focus his efforts there (as well as overall team management).

Timing sucks, but so does the team. I'm not at all bothered by it, but I wonder how much good it does have a FB teaching them how to better their game....? I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see us incorporate some kind of coaching hire around our bye week possibly too...our timetable for change simply does not mirror the rest of the league AND IT SHOULDN'T. We're far worse off, and major change will be necessary over the next few seasons. So long as it's not a carousel of shit like Oakland, no worries here, clocks ticking but, meh....

Yet, when the game really mattered the most, they fell apart. It's because of Clancy's idioticy of calling a goddamned prevent defense that isn't preventing a single goddamn thing.

It's pretty damned refreshing seeing the goddamned corners playing 8 to 10 yards off of the goddamned line of scrimmage, that they just continue to let the goddamned receivers run freely.

****ING JAM THE MOTHER****ER and then run with the receivers.

Another issue I have with him is that already through 5 games, the Chiefs, as a whole team, only recorded six goddamned sacks.

SIX!

FTR I think the ONLY coach who has deserved a pink slip this year is our DC.

Gailey consistently overachieved while our new DC has had his defense step on it's d**k every time it's been forced to make a stand. Who gives a $#it about 3rd and 3 in the first quarter?

No one. It's early, there's time for adjustments. 4 minutes left in the 4th, the other team has the ball, YOU STOP THEM OR LOSE.

We still can't do that...

I think people are making way too much of the fact that he played fullback in the NFL.

Todd Haley didn't play receiver in the NFL either. Bellichick played tight end--that doesn't mean he's unqualified to coach defense.

Anderson has coached WRs before. It's not like this is his first gig. I don't know what to make of this decision. But it's WAY too soon to be jumping off cliffs.

Haley didn't ****ing play anything.

No cliff jumping, actually quite calm at the moment, rare but enjoyable. I'm not flacking the new coach, never heard a word of him. I'm not knocking anyone being out of position, if you're good at what you do, who cares where you got the talent. Hell, I hope the guy works out. I just understood that Haley's specialty, if he has one anyway, was wideouts. Hailed for improving on the Cardinals group anyway, so it'd make sense to me that if he were to adopt any one thing...it should be that maybe.

Who's jumping off cliffs?

I want to go find a couple of mother****ers to push off cliffs, though.

No, you're not cliff jumping. I'm commenting on the people who categorically dismiss it as a dumb decision. Sorry, I was commenting about one part of your post and then referring to other people in the same reply. For some reason, with other people, they either hate or love people with the Chiefs.

Tim has to go. Remember last year? 10 sacks in a 16 game season? Brand new NFL record of least sacks in a single season.

In all, 16 sacks, by a TEAM, in 21 NFL games.

That is not good. That is bad. Very, very, very bad.

If Haley is going to hold his assistant coaches to an standard, by demoting the WR coach, then he should have done the same thing to Tim, because 6 sacks in 5 games? Unacceptable.

The bye week may be far and away more interesting than a game week. Not that that's a good thing.

What all-powerful card does Krumrie hold? I mean what the hell is this guy doing that keeps him employed? FIRED. Before the end of the 08 season he'd have been gone if I were running that. Production alone called for his termination.

I'm telling you, he must have mafia type leverage on the entire damn league somehow. Probably shows up to the interviews with a briefcase full of harmful info and photo evidence of the person interviewing him.

Haley is in so far over his head.

But but but we're on pace for a 22 sack season! Screw Krumrie, he should have been kicking rocks with Herm.

Krumrie was a 3/4 nose tackle in Cincinnati. He knows that scheme, so for them it was probably a no-brainer decision to keep him.

Just because he knows the scheme, doesn't necessarly make him a great coach, by chance.

During his time, as a coach, in Cincy, Buffalo, and KC, it's just terrible.

They should have made him the assistant screamer because as a D-Line coach you have to coach more than the nose tackle.

Similarly, just because Dedric Ward played WR doesn't make him a great coach. But that doesn't stop people from freaking out about him.

Haley's butt is the one on the line, and he's doing everything based on his vision for the team. All we can do is hope like hell it works.

Ok, but I hope he envisions Krumrie on the unemployment line while he's at it.

LOL. Nicely done. :)

But he's partly to blame. He came to KC preaching his "22 men off the street" stuff and now he sees how really messed up things are.

This. :clap:ROFL

What the hell does he see in Goff and Niswanger? Those guys are the 22 guys off the street poster boys for Christ's sake.

Is Goff one of those 22 guys? If he is we're in for a ride.

Oh - I agree. That's why I said he's partly to blame. He and Pioli missed big time on evaluating talent or lack there of. It is what it is now...

For some reason the guy is highly respected, and I think it has more to do with him as a player than as a coach. But I can think of two reasons:

1) There was no one significantly better available
2) Due to No 1, might as well pay him to work instead of pay him to sit at home

If the linemen don't show much more improvement this year, he could (should) be gone too...

Well if that's true Jason, One Arrowhead Drive should ****ING REFUND EVERY ****ING SEASON TICKET HOLDER THEIR MONEY.

And the rest of the games should be FREE.

If the Greatest Executive to live on Planet Earth since Caligula can't read the talent on this team within 9 months, then we're ****ED.

Now he just needs some WR's to coach

Tim Krummrie and Richie Anderson are perfect prototypes of pro coaches, IMHO.

I know that isnt popular, but let me explai why that has been my take on Krummrie since day one, and Im sure Anderson will fit that mold.

They both excelled because of technique, desire and will power.

Krummrie was a 280 pound pro bowl nose tackle, and had the heart to come back from one of the most severe injuries ever in an extremely short amount of time because of his fire. Jared Allen OBVIOUSLY took to that, among others.

Anderson was a good reciever because of good routes and understanding his opponents.

It blows me away how many people slam the guy, when he has IMHO done VERY well with the limited (yet highly drafted) talent he has been given.

Look at the difference between Tank as a rookie and now.

Look at Jareds rush defense when he cam into the league and how refined he bacame as a pass rusher.

Dorsey is doing very well while playing out of his comfort zone because of coaching.

I feel Krummerie gets a raw deal on this, and other boards.

So far, the dline is a pleasant surprise imho.

I wish Haley would fire the Head Coach next.
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I wonder if Chief fans know what the **** they are talking about.

He inherited many these guys, coaches and players, and he's evaluating them on the fly to determine who belongs where and who doesn't belong there at all while trying to win a game or two in the process.

The whole place is five games out from a 20 year regime that varied from mediocrity to pure shit. There's no magical NFL pixie dust to sprinkle on the team and make it all unicorns and smiles.

If this shit's going on this time next season you'll have a reason to bitch. Right now however, it's pure short sighted, lack of comprehension of what the new staff is dealing with this season.

People aren't used to seeing change in KC. When things weren't working on previous coaching staffs, they might (emphasis on "might") replace some coaches in the offseason. Is it a little extreme maybe? Sure, but the team's also extremely bad. The way I look at it, I'm encouraged they're at least they're willing to try different things. Maybe now we won't have to worry about sitting through the tenured failure of the next Greg Robinson or Gunther Cunningham.

And it's not like it can actually hurt anything at this point.

For you Dane...I think you're mad because Pioli may have a bigger ego than you...and that angers and maybe even scares you a little Dane...doens't it?

Wanna talk about it big guy? My PM door is always open.

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How quickly we forget the likes of Mike Stock and Dick Curl.

Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star


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Dedric Ward (left) and Richie Anderson

<!-- End: /pubsys/production/story/assets/image_embedded.comp --> Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley made another staff change this week, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson.

Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006.

Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday.

“Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision-making are trying to find a way to get things right,” wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done.
“But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.”

Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference.
“They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),” Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) … where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays, and plays to build on for those guys and for us.

“Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.”

Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring.

The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start.

But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in their Oct. 4 game against the Giants.
The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason.

Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game.
Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped.
Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach.

Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way.

“In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,” Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability.

“So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.”
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I think it's becoming clearer that Haley doesn't know what he's doing. These things should have been completed in the off-season.

The running back going to teach them to block?

Haley is going to run out of coordinators to blame. At least Herm waited until the offseason to throw people under the bus and point the finger.

He had just had 2 bags of Ramon, Redbull and sunflower seats...give Haley a break.

He fired an offensive coordinator he was apparently saddled with but never wanted.

He demoted a WR coach.


I'm sure these will result in the end of the world.