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So...

Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.

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Yes.

Who is "you guys"? I've never thought Brady was better than Manning.

not a chance. You are witnessing the greatest QB in Manning since Montana.

Earlier in his career, Brady was throwing to such luminaries as David Patten and Jermaine Wiggins. And their offense has never had a TE as good as what Peyton's had. In addition, Peyton's had a HOF WR in Harrison for MOST of his career, whereas Brady has had Moss for a couple of seasons. In addition, Manning had a HOF RB in Marshall Faulk and another guy (Edgerrin James) who looked well on the path there for a while.

In addition, Brady is coming back from major knee surgery. It's been five games. How did Manning look last year, coming back from major knee surgery? Just about the same.

As for Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon, you easily chalk that up to a case of "great QB throwing to scrubs". We'll have to wait a few seasons before we decide how good or how average those guys are.

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keep drinking your Tom Brady kool-aid...

he'll always be the 2nd best QB of his era...

I hate Patriots fans more than Yankees fans.

Any particular reason you're so busy slobbering Peyton's knob? Were you impressed with the championship performance he put on in college? Oops, wait, he choked in the big game. How about in the pros? Oops, wait, he choked season after season and finally only won a SB (in which he was the least important aspect of that game) after finally getting a solid D and a solid running game. He's got one SB, despite having played with HOF offensive talent.

Don't get me wrong. He's a great QB. He's in the top five, probably. Maybe even the top three. Whether he's the "greatest" is subjective. You could make a case for Montana, Brady, Elway, Marino, Unitas, and a bunch more.

I don't know why everyone's so hung up on "greatest". I wouldn't mind having any of those guys lead my team. As was done in another poll recently, though, if I had to choose one guy in his prime, I'd probably choose Montana.

And I hate Manning ballwashers who can't back up their love. And I hate people who hate other teams' fans without good reason. So f**k you.

Peyton is better in my opinion, better dude too.

Yeah, he's a great guy. From all accounts, Brady is a stand-up citizen. At least he hasn't waved his ass at any female trainers lately.

god I wish Patriots fans would just stick to their ****ing planet...dude, we get it...we signed Pioli to be our GM...that doesn't mean we want you morons leaching all over this site.

Tom Brady DOES NOTHING BETTER than Peyton Manning...he is inferior in every way in terms of being an NFL QB...and those who say he is a "winner" or is more "clutch"...are just idiots. That's really all I can say about that.

If you need to get a touchdown in the last 90 seconds of a game hands down the Qb you need in the game is Peyton Manning.

To be honest, I thought the two were pretty close (different strengths) going back two seasons. Manning has definitely taken his game to a new level this season. I've never seen someone that has a command of the field like he does. During George Brett's hot streaks, he used to say that the ball slowed down and got real big. Manning is in that kind of groove right now. The game unfolds before him in slow motion. He sees everything and has the tools to put the ball exactly where it needs to go on every stinking play. So far Manning is having the best season a QB ever had (stats be damned).

Brady on the other hand hasn't yet recovered from the BP affair.

This season it is not even close, but I don't think it is really meaningful to use what is happening this season to go back and argue that "I told all of you idiots two years ago NONNY NONNY FU FU." However deep your insight was into Peyton Manning's greatness, it will not do the lifting necessary to overcome your irrational exuberance over one Damon Huard.

Irony.

You know...this Damon Huard thing...has to be the biggest over-exaggeration on this website...ever.

I never one time proclaimed that he was a great QB...or even a good QB. All I ever said was...he gave us the best chance to win. And that was truth.

Actually, according to a stat on TV I saw during a recent game, you need Drew Bledsoe. Go figure.

I'd take either, and wouldn't blink.

Yeah cuz stealing signals and video taping walkthroughs in the SB is the same saving money to build a brand new stadium.:rolleyes:

Peyton was only sacked like 2 times before last week so idk how that makes his line terrible.

Did we forget that peyton didnt play that well in the beginning of last season after coming back from his injury?

Give tom some time.

I'd also like to point out that Manning has faced the average Jags and Fins, reeling Cards, average Seahawks, and winless Titans. Pats have faced tougher competition. Not to mention the Colts beat the Jags by 2 (14-12) and the Fins by 3 (27-23). It's too early in the season to start talking about how great a 5-0 team is, or how great any individual player is doing.

Given the choice Brady...

Notice how no one is going to the mat for any of the people playing C, RG or RT? Why? Certainly one of the players available to fill that position must be infinitesimally better than another.

brady is more clutch. peyton is great but seriously, look at the run game peyton has had vs tom. peyton plays in a ****ing dome and tom plays in the snow. peyton had marvin his whole ****ing career. tom turned 3rd string receivers into multimillionaires. toms 3 super bowls and almost perfect season by 30, id retire. not to mention the 3 super bowl game winning drives tom has. what else does he have to even play for. peyton is still playing catch up......
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so in your expert opinion...Peyton Manning has nothing to do with the fact he has only been sacked two times?

Watch a Colts game, pay attention to that offensive line, and then get back to me. Peyton Manning would make our offensive line look above average.

Though, this thread does give me some self satisfaction...two years ago when I made this same point...everyone on the site ganged up on me and told me how much better Brady was etc. etc. etc.

You mean "delaying compensation so that you could have more talent on your roster than the cap allows?"

What about the time you said that the '08 Chiefs should sign Jeff Garcia so they could make a playoff run?

Or when you claimed that Tony Romo was a top 3 QB?

Or when you claimed that Thigpen was better than Palmer?

Or when you claimed that Favre was going to have a great year for the Jets last year.

Dude, your track record sucks. You have the credibility of KC Johnny when it comes to shit like this.

2 years ago, most probably thought, and rightfully so, that Brady WAS the better QB.

But people tend to go with a "what have you done for me lately" attitude, and Brady has played 5 games in the past 2 years, while Manning is lighting it up this year.

The entire argument is reeruned, as they are both elite, HOF QB's.

omg this sums up the biggest ****ing bullshit glamour stick that is one, Tom Brady.

He is not more clutch.
He HAS NOT played with inferior talent...

He has, however, been on the better team his whole career and has had, however, the benefit of playing for the best coach...perhaps...of all time.

Look at what Matt Cassel did last year...that team isn't all about the QB...

Now...take Manning off the Colts...and I guarantee you that...

A) They don't win 11 games.

And

B) They are probably worse than the Chiefs (and that's saying something).

If that right there doesn't show you how great Peyton Manning is then I don't know what to tell you. Living in Illinois, I get the thrill of having every Colts game jammed down my throat and trust me...that dude is UNBELIEVABLE.

Yep, all Brady does is whines for calls after defenders brush him on his leg, and then pumps his fist when he gets them. What a competitor.

I can't believe that anyone would say that Brady is better than Manning. Brady is overrated and is constantly blown my major media companies. Manning is an attention whore, but he's much better and is able to control the game infinitely better than Brady. Hands down, no argument.

Ok buddy.

I think Palmer is vastly overrated and Romo is vastly underrated.

I bet Romo turns out to be a great, great, great QB.

Oh, and, I don't remember saying Favre was going to be great with the Jets last year...I remember taking him in the 2nd round of a QB HEAVY (LIKE, YOU NEED TWO QB'S TO COMPETE) fantasy league last year (Peyton 1st round, Favre 2nd round...2nd place out of 24 teams finish)...and he did start out having a remarkable year until he got hurt.

I also said last year Aaron Rodgers and Kurt Warner were great value picks who would end up being top 10 fantasy QB's...

So why don't you **** yourself.

Hey...you want to know a good bet 'Hamas'?

Today...Houston is like +227 against the Bengals.

I GUARANTEE Houston beats the Bengals...

We're going to see Palmer's true colors today...if he's so great, he'd light up that shitty secondary Houston is sporting.

I bet Houston wins this game.

You're undeniably ****ing bent.

The first two SB's Brady won he had almost NOTHING on offense. They pulled games from out their ass almost every week in the 4th quarter.

Meanwhile, Payed-a-Ton is putting up money fantasy numbers all year long and chokes against teams like the Broncos or Dolphins come playoff time almost every year...

And don't forget that the reason the Broncos always had a strong running game was due to the semi-illegal chop-blocking that their O-line perfected. Instead of playing like men they'd dive for knees like pussies.

Houston's an underrated offense, and that money line is too high. That's not as revolutionary of a thought as you think, Hootie the Greek.

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It's just not true.

Put Vanderjagt on the Patriots and how many Super Bowls have they won?

I'm not saying it is...I'm just saying that Vegas is overrating Cincy this week...and the Saints.

The Giants are like +167...the best ****ing road team in the NFL. They are going to win by 10.

Vegas is getting TORCHED this year.

This thread is a great microcosm of the problem of debate on this site.

One person makes a dumbass assertion that isn't grounded in any form of tangible reality.

People who don't agree with him take the exact opposite opinion, as though there are only two polar extremes to choose from.

The kicker?

Are you ****ing kidding me? The KICKER is the super talent Brady had to play with?

Just....**** this....you're wasting my ****ing time...

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I have always thought Manning is the better of the two. That said Brady is a heck of a QB. Brady is returning from a knee injury and it shows. Anyone who thinks Brady does not belong on the top QB list is an idiot. As far as alltime lists that is something to discuss when these two are done playing.

that kicker has as much to do with those super bowls as Tom Brady...who both have much less to do with those Super Bowl then BB

Yep. I would be extremely happy with either one

You just threw your credibility off a cliff.

Jesus ****ing Christ.

Well, at least you proved my last post 100% correct.

That .gif of the guy lighting himself on fire and throwing himself out a 3rd story window would be appropriate here.

HAMAS!?!?!

He would need to have credibility to make said throw

I almost went back and added "(again)".

For my money, I'm taking Manning.

I just really don't like Tom Brady.

I don't see the point in hating Tom Brady. He's an exceptional QB. One of the best I've ever seen.

So is Peyton Manning.

How's Carson Palmer doing these days?

or New England...or Derek Jeter...or the Yankees.

I don't care what anyone says...Carson Palmer is, and continues to be, SUPER SUPER SUPER overrated.

and he will show his true colors this year...his 77 QB rating will show through when they start losing...his 1 good drive a game won't continue.

He still has Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark, so let's not act like he doesn't have anyone to throw to. He is the foundation of that team though. Without him they are horrible IMO.

I've never understood this comment, as Peyton has never missed a start in his career.

And in the 15 games Jim Sorgi saw action, he has a 63.5% completion percentage, and a 6/1 TD/INT ratio - and the Colts are 12-3 in those games.

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Laugh all you want, but it's reeruned to say that the Colts are horrible without Manning when he hasn't missed a start.

I have always thought Payton was the better QB, and I think we are all witnessing the best QB to ever play.

I can see why your not the most popular poster on here. And yes i know i have red rep before you start

peyton manning is much, much, much better than tom brady.

Brady can beat 3-4 defenses

I guess I didn't realize it was even close who the better QB is. Hands down, Manning was/is the better QB.





Larry Johnson on the other hand is a HUGE waste of a roster spot. Sorry....didn't want to start my own thread.

there it is folks. this is why peyton is better. grbac has a major hard on for peyton. i bet he really loves the manning oreo licking commercial.
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Manning is was and always will be better than Brady

I've always been a sucker for getting the franchise qb at the top of the draft. it's no secret I coveted both joey harrington and byron leftwich (blech)... however, I also wanted us to trade the farm to get peyton manning. now, would he have had the success he's had there, here? who knows. we'll never know.

Yeah, so that Palmer guy, he sucks.

Except in the playoffs.

brady can also lead his team to a 4th quarter comeback victory in 3 super bowls.....gg no re
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A guy who gets little press and is stupid good is Brees of the Saints. The playoff/Superbowl argument is most likely why. Peyton Manning is one of the best QBs I have seen. He has shit the bed in some big games though.

i say that brady is one of the best. peyton has problems, but brees is the best out of the best.

Sorry have to disagree but there is a reason when players leave Indy they are not as good.. Peyton makes everyone way better then they are..

Right now Brett Favre is the MVP of the NFL-6-0 12 TD'S 2 come from behind wins.

Peyton is tied for second with Brees.

How many players left New England and were still good?