Vrabel and Hali are studs!
 

One sack apiece today! We haven't seen a pass rush like this since the days of Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith!

Hali gets a safety!!!:clap:

Vrabel and Hali keyed the Chiefs win today. Constant pressure dumped Jason Campbell on the bench and held the Redskins to 6 points.

WOW!!!

"Ode to the Republic of Liberia"

THE PATRIOT WAY!

They better have some sacks going up against the tackles they were up against. Nonetheless, good job on their parts.

Hali - 3 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 safety

Yeah he sucks and will never be able to make the transition to linebacker.

;)

I did hate when Vrabel missed that tackle on the huge run by portis though... I'll let him go for that hit on Collins in the endzone right after he threw it... God I love safeties....

Defense was huge today.

They played outstanding today, but the team is still a long way to being good.. This is a good step forward, hopefully they build on it and do the same against a good opponent..

On the positive side atleast the defense managed to not make an inept unit look good. That's progress.

LMAO

One thing I notice is when our D dances on the line, I cannot predict who is blitzing for the first time in YEARS.

No way. A positive post from Mecca?

Lord, you can take me now. I have seen everything.

I was laughing at how inept both offenses were in the game, it was painful to watch.

If we had vintage Neil and Derrick today, they would have racked up 7 sacks or more between them.

Hali and Vrabel had a good game and it did key the defense but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Turk Mcbride had 1.5 sacks today, he is no Neil Smith either.

Sounds like Tamba went off today & i missed it at a family reunion.

VIVA TAMBA!

VIVA VICTORY!

he was a beast today!

If he was a half a step faster he would have had three or four sacks today.

Agreed, it was a brutal game to watch. A win is a win though!

Football has such a strange hold on me, being able to finally savor a victory & knowing Tamba took another step today...puts me in a better mood than it probably should.

Totally. Tamba would already have 6 or 7 sacks if he had that extra step or if the middle of the defense could collapse the pocket a little better.

I actually think that Tamba is going to be a very good outside linebacker, and better at that spot than he was a left end. Even his drops look good. He's certainly making a lot of "experts" on here look stupid.

Can we play Washington every week?

So, Tamba would have more sacks if he were a better player.

Thanks for the amazing analysis, reerunian.

LMAO

Yeah because that's what I totally wrote Melt Down Jenkins.

Notice the comment about the middle of our defense.

Notice the comment about "if he were a half-step faster".

The middle of the defense gives him that half step because the QB can't hold the ball as long or step up as easily.

Thanks for playing Melt Down.

I admit i was skeptical if Hali would have a spot in the 34. I thought just a nickel DE was in the cards for him. He has worked very hard at it and it's paying off. Playing at a lighter weight has also done him some good.

Another who i thought would struggle to find a place is Demo Williams. He hasn't been perfect but holds up well against the run and is making the most of his opportunity that DJ's inconsistancy is giving him. Belcher too.

So let me see if I understand this.

Hali had a sack/safety and a couple of pressures against a backup tackle and did show some progress in coverage, but was virtually invisible for the rest of the game, and we have a thread sucking him off?

Only at ChiefsPlanet.

Have you enjoyed anything that he's done?

If so, do you feel guilty about it?

Maybe we should ignore any positives & continue to piss on him at every f***ing opportunity.

This is the absolute truth

I've made some positive comments about Hali, and have acknowledged that he has played better than I expected, but at the same time, there is absolutely no way in hell I'm going ot call him a stud.

He's playing well enough to not be a total failure, but he hasn't done nearly enough to make me think he's anything other than a solid backup in the future.

Maybe he continues to progress and proves he's more than a backup, but he sure as hell isn't there yet.

Strange, I saw a completely different game.

Hali was active and quite visible to those of us at the game. I saw a number of pressures from Hali as well as the sack and the safety.

So, yeah, he deserves some praise for today.

But, don't let me stop the negativity.

Forgive me for questioning your judgment, but you leave me no choice, considering he only had 1 sack. (the safety)

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200910...ns#tab:analyze

In fairness to GoChiefs, i think the thread title was made half in jest...just to stir it up & it worked.

Maybe we did see things differently.

Looks liked the backup LT owned him for most of the game.

The Kansas City Chiefs where not being a total abortion of a failure will get you praise.

I saw what you saw.

"Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise".

That's because you two MF'ers are blind and don't know shit. So even if you could see you wouldn't know WTF you were looking at.

Says the ****tard that screamed all offseason that Hali would be a complete failure at outside linebacker.

How'd your girl Sanchez play today?

Most may find this surprising, but Hal is just the kind of player I root strongly for.

I hope like hell that he does turn it up and become a stud out there, because he works as hard as anyone to do the best he can, and doesn't attempt to draw attention to himself.

He's a great person as near as I can tell, and I really hope he becomes a great player.

I really like the guy.

And you know with that work ethic and desire, he might well be able to achieve that.

How was the view from the bench?

The really low standards set for Hali have now made some people act like he's succeeding to a great level..

Elvis Dumervil is succeeding to a great level, Tamba Hali is ok.

They know that your bitch ass couldn't get on the field in DII, so there's that.

In fairness, the Donkeys did a better job of putting Dumervill in a position to succeed, But Dumervill does have more natural athleticism and speed to build on.

I played at the next level, but don't want to talk about it. /reerunian.

I still have a really hard time believing you can field a top notch defense with Tamba Hali as an important player.

****, High School is the next level in comparison to a lot of DII schools.

Only a dumbass MF'er who had never stepped onto the field would say such complete nosense.

that'd be you BTW. The dumbass MF'er. Just in case you missed it.

Oh, I played. I also didn't lie about the level that I played on, or claim to play beyond a level I did. I was the Tom Waddle of a shitty high school team, if Waddle got on the field less. I wouldn't have gotten offers to play ****ing street ball, but I also didn't pawn off my experience @ the next level with some sort of faux humility.

In case you missed it, nobody respects the opinions you formed while sitting on the bench in JUCO football.

No he played at JUCO, just sat his ass on the bench at Central Missouri.

1/2 the tackles & 1 more sack than Terrell Suggs.

6 less tackles, 3 less sacks than Aaron Kampman.

4 less tackles, 1 more sack than Demarcus Ware.

Those numbers tell me, that he's hanging in there with other good OLB's.

I havent seen one Hali defender say 'OMG HE'S GREAT!', but anytime something good in any way is mentioned, it turns into being told that it means absolutely nothing & that i should not like him or see any potential whatsoever.

Both had good games today ... hopefully it continues ....

I never lied either. It's just blowhard MF'ers like you that like to tell yourself that so that you feel better.

In hopes of avoiding the typical BS on this board, Tamba played a respectable game today despite being against a back-up. But, that's not criticizing the back-up either. There's not a lot of men in the NFL that would bench Samuals at LT.

It's nice to see the defense look respectable, and Tamba played a major role in the outcome.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gwgp4j.jpg

Bench?

Getting injured and not playing means he got benched I guess, odd logic.

Samuals was injured, you know?

This! :clap:

I see a cornerstone of the defense that just needs to be surrounded by more talent.

No way he is a backup.

dude sealed the win.

Not surprised at your inability to see reality.

And that's something no player has been able to do for us in long time.


PhilFree:arrow:

yup, it was like whoa! right on!

Lets hope these type of plays can build confidence in Hali.

If Tamba Hali is a cornerstone of your defense...be prepared to be ranked in the 20's.

Nobody is saying he has to be a cornerstone. Lets just hope he can gain some confidence and make these type of plays again. Little by little.

Did you miss that post by sensible?

We'll see, because he will be here a while.

He has no one rushing oposite him that has to be respected. The Chiefs are starting to get some production from Dorsey, but NT and the other DE are not disruptive.

The ILB's are pathetic and the safteties suck.

And, he still makes plays. He is still all over the field.

If he had some more talent around him.... he would be even better.

I am not saying pro bowler, but he is a solid young player that doesn't need to be replaced.

Hey, haven't seen you on the Sanchez thread.... did I miss it?

Ok if you're going to amend your post to saying hey he's an alright complimentary player if we get better talent out there and he's not a pro bowler..

That's far different than saying he's a cornerstone.

Didn't see it

I think a cornerstone is a solid piece that you can build around.

He is young, plays well, plays hard, is a leader, and there is no need to replace him.

He isn't a 'complimentary' player any more than any other player is 'complimentary'.

He isn't a 'problem' on defense. About seven other guys need to be replaced before him for sure.

I think it is funny that Mecca feels better about bashing Hali, whom had a game sealing safety than supporting his boy Sanchez in the other thread.

All you other parrots are over there taking all your bullets.

Tamba Hali has been in the league a hell of a lot longer right?

But hey a rookie QB can't possibly get better.

And why are you making this about Sanchez, this has 0 to do with him, tard party.

Your the dumbass who defended Herm Freaking Edwards, I wouldn't call out anybody if I was your dumbass.

And there it is.