Matt Cassel did something yesterday I didn't think possible...
 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...lQSz9z.Xf.uLYF

Look at his YPA for yesterdays game...3.9, how the **** do you only have 3.9 yards per attempt in a game?

That is laughably awful.

It's _________'s fault, not Cassel's.

Sauto told me so.

matt cassel sucks.

FTR, a good YPA is 7

So Cassel is above average. /homers

i have said he had a bad game. he's not confident in anything that happens around him right now(blocking and running) and it's showing in his play

I have confidence in Matty. /Pioli's man sack/

But Mecca, he doesn't turn the ball over!$!$! /blind CP homer

Too bad we can't put Croyles arm and brain in Cassel's body.

Newsflash! He sucked yesterday. Hey, did you hear about LJ?

Its Brodie-time.

He has another game at 4, that's just so bad...it speaks to them trying to protect him so he doesn't look bad though.

Bad thing is, if we put Brodie in, they better boot-leg (I know, I know) his ass away from the pressure or it will won't last very long.

All bullshitting aside,when Brodie doesn't get sacked and put on the IR for the season,he runs a pretty slick boot leg.o:-)

HE took some pretty good shots against the ravens and kept getting up.

That one in the preseason game scared me though. I dont remember what team it was but some dude superman dove and hit his helmet right on his chin.

I even saw him eating a hot dog on the sideline.

Yes, I love the bootleg, unless it's being run against us by Denver and Hicks is our DE.


Unfortunately our offense doesn't want to use the bootleg to help our QB get out into space so he can make a completion that's more then 3.9 yards.

Possibly. I'd save judgment for when this team has some talent.

The problem is that our running game demands NO respect, therefore the bootleg won't work. If we had a reasonably effective rushing attack we could run it more.

I look forward to your analysis in '11.

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

LMAO

You'll have to remind me, I'll never remember...

I don't think you need to surround him with an all-world supporting cast. But he does deserve to have an adequate offensive line and a consistent receiver before we can seal the case shut. If there were great young QBs in next year's class, I don't think it would hurt to take one. But I don't see there being that option. I think we're stuck with Cassel in 2010 regardless.

Worst case, Cassel busts in 2010 and you become frontrunners for Locker or Claussen.

Clausen is coming out, he'd be an idiot not to, hell Locker should too, they could get jacked up the board.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...uLYF?year=2008

that happened twice last year (under 5) with the patriots... whats your point... he had a crappy game...

Kyle Ortons 2006 5.1 average all year... 2008 6.4 averaqge all year... i guess he is a below average qb... his record in those years 22-8.

So...did you laugh at this stat line?

8.3 10 29 34.5 119 4.1 5
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thats the way his contract is written, gives us an out after next year if we need to draft a guy rd.1. there arent any this year anyways.
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I've talked to several big Notre Dame fans who don't think Claussen will declare early. But who knows... If those guys are available, as strange as it sounds, I wonder if those guys should become your picks and then you dangle one of them as trade bait if Cassel does pan out.

I knew that was coming

If Kyle Orton is our standard, this trade is a loser.

I was wondering the same thing. Especially the 4.1 YPP.

I'm basically resided to the fact that Cassel is going to start here for atleast 3 or 4 years. Pioli is not going to admit he ****ed up that move in the snap of a finger.

Haley will get fired before they move on a QB.

Hey still better than 3.9 right?

But like has been said before, so our 27 year old QB is either the same or marginally better than a rookie with a handful of starts, well whooptie ****in do.

I remember the Chicago Atlanta game from 2006, (my bro in law is a huge bears fan) - Chicago won 16-3 Ortons YPA was 1.2

again an assumption with nothing to base it on.... pioli is not an idiot, he left himself an out. just like in the bledsoe situation. sorry if you cant understand
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Are you trying to make some kind of point about how awful a QB can be?

I think you're selling Pioli a bit short. As much as I hate his croneyism to former Pats, he doesn't have a history of being overly loyal to underperforming players. This is a guy who basically wanted nothing to do with Ty Law and even Troy Brown unless they took significant pay cuts. I can't think of many examples where a Pats player stayed on that roster way longer than they deserved to.

Hopefully that hasn't changed. For now, I think he at least deserves a benefit of a doubt.

This is true. I would hope it would at least give our QB a chance. With this assembly of talent it probably doesn't matter anyway.

You should try being a little patient. I know it is easy to bash everything and expect quick results but this was never going to be a quick fix.

I just checked drew brees at 27 in 2006... a game vs the giants, they won 30-7... his ypa was 4.1... it happens...

yes, and have a great record...

You are so much easier to talk to when I agree with you.

Looks like a future HOFer.

Eh, he plays in a spread, so you can expect him to have a slightly higher ypa.

I said this before and I'll say it again, I'm going to have far less patience with a 27 year old than I would with a rookie. And don't give me this he hasn't played bullshit since everyone that defended this trade went to the he's not a rookie argument.

I agree, but it boggles me his YPA is below average for 2 years and barely above average for one year (this year) and he is 28-8... YPA isnt everything i guess... that just means you tried to pass it a lot, and have a lot of incompletions...

What were their 3rd down averages? Just wondering because I believe good QB's get the job done on 3rd down and in the 4th quarter.

Ummm. We're 1-6. Having a sucky QB hasn't really worked out for us.

It's partially because the guys idea of offense was to dump it to Matt Forte repeatedly.

They wont sit shitty mike brown who they brought in. Its clear mike brown blows, so why not play morgan some? We are ****ing 1-6, why not see what you got? Are we playoff bound this year?

Same with dj. Hes played better than any of our lbs save maybe tamba. Again,why not let him play?

I think he doesnt wanna look like a fool if either of those guys start making plays.

Experience is one thing. But few QBs of any experience level should be expected to carry a team with no running game, no defense, and one receiver who makes as many dumb mistakes as he makes big plays. That's the point to be made.

No, he's 27, he should be capable of carrying the team.

Anyone who was touched with the Herm stick automatically sucks and has no future, even Whitlock mentioned this.

If Cassel had Matt Forte do dump to would it be better than LJ?

I am not talking exclusively about Cassel. This whole team around him is god awful.

You guys are spinning that to "hey he should carry the team"

No I'm expecting him to not completely blow ass, the guy has played like ass all year just no one mentions it because he wasn't throwing picks.

I don't think I'm asking a lot here.

Just a little bit.......

The 27 year old QB hadn't started a game since high school prior to last year. That 27 year old QB has a much worse OL and worse weapons than the 4.1 saviour.

Maybe Bowe has an agreement with Cassel. Cassel has to throw bad passes, so that Bowe will look so good whenever he's able to catch one. When he does throw him a good pass, it surprises him so much that he drops it. :shrug:

Hi I'm Matt Cassel I can completely shit my pants on the field but it's cool, a lot of people will still defend me because I'm on the team and that's what they do here.

This is true, but everyone is always so quick to defend him. I just haven't caught on as to why.

Lance Long had as many targets yesterday as Bowe did....WHY?

Why does Matt Cassel love throwing the ball at Bobby Wade and Lance Long and Sean Ryan and Dwayne Bowe hardly gets looked at, it makes no god damn sense.

Dwayne Bowe should have more targets than everyone else in the offense combined.

Everytime Mecca sees the name Sanchez he pees a little in excitement.
If he was a CHief, he'd call him a bum ROFL

Because him being shit sets us back 2 or 3 more years in how long it will take to be good again, so it's not fun to admit that he might suck.

He's not open? :shrug:

Nobody has said he's the great white hope because he isn't throwing picks. Most people are saying he deserves at least an average offensive line before you can truly judge his potential. Not a pro bowl line. An average one. I don't think that's asking for a lot either.

Why is Sanchez being mentioned in a thread about Cassel?

Really you guys need to let it go.

I still think Bowe is a showboat and Haley doesn't seem to like that. Point being made in the playcalling?

Of course, I probably have no clue what I'm talking about.

I have not been to a game yet. Is Bowe getting seperation? Even if he isn't, he still should be getting looks.


Anyone know?

You said you found a stat that you didn't think was possible. It was pointed out that Sanchez had a nearly IDENTICAL stat.

Well I don't like that Todd Haley has no grasp of game management, he's every bit as bad if not worse than Herm.

Can I go kick him in the head because of it?

For me I was never a Cassel fan and I thought he was a 1 year wonder. But he is a Chief now and I don't want him to fail plus I am going to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt. Most people thought this team was not very good I predicted 4-5 wins and that maybe high now.

I want to see a full offseason with Pioli and everyone in place to see what kind of team he builds. If next year we still suck at 1-6 then the honeymoon will be over at least for me anyway. For others it is already over.

Whatever makes you feel better.

Because there are some on this forum that are intent on despising the shit out of him and not giving even an ounce of a benefit of a doubt.

Most of his critics acknowledge that he has a shitty supporting cast, and yet won't even slightly acknowledge that maybe the shitty supporting cast might be contributing to some of his problems too. THat's the part that gets me.

Nobody on this board is saying he's been great or even good. They are just saying that he deserves to have at least a little help before we can start judging.

It was :) a :Poke: at Mecca's anti-chief takes

I expect him to throw to the best player on the team more than the scrubs and to not miss guys wide open down the field.

I know I'm asking a ton here.

we need 22 lance longs

Haley seems to be switching out a lot of players at a lot of positions. Trying to see who fits where best. It took us being down 20+ points in the fourth quarter for him to switch out Cassel.

Don't get me wrong. I want whoever plays to succeed. I don't know. I just don't like what I see in Cassel. Call it woman's intuition...lol.

100% correct.