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DaWolf 11-02-2009 04:58 PM

Looney: Niswanger back in pads, speculating Page to IR?
 
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/11...og_a_new_look/

HALEY TO CAN INJURY TALK - EXCEPT ON PAGE?
November 2nd – 4:45 PM

Let the speculation begin. S Jarrad Page missed practice this afternoon, apparently due to an injury suffered in practice last Thursday. That bit of news is about as routine as any injury talk, in any NFL city. But after a small turn of events this afternoon, Page’s situation becomes a bit more interesting..

Chiefs head coach Todd Haley informed the media today that he was not going to comment on specific player injuries going forward. This is a practice used by a handful of NFL head coaches for competitive reasons, but Haley had generally been forthright with the media throughout the first eight weeks of the regular season.

“From now on I’m not going to talk a lot about injuries, if at all,” Haley announced. “Unless something major comes up, I’m going to stay away from that.“

Ok, fair enough. There’s not much news there. But then, just a few minutes later when asked about Page’s absence, Haley indicated that Page was indeed injured and that he would address Page’s injury on Tuesday.

“I will talk about Jarrad Page tomorrow,” Haley stated. “He suffered another injury on Thursday and I’ll talk about that tomorrow.“

Interesting. Page is the exception? Is his injury serious?

Technically, Haley isn’t due to talk with the media again until Wednesday, but tomorrow is also “Transaction Tuesday” around the league, leaving actions in the form of roster moves to speak as well. The fact that Haley has opted to refrain from injury-talk for competitive reasons going forward, but is inclined to talk about Page, leaves a bit of speculation as to what will happen next regarding the Chiefs safety.

Page has dealt with lingering injuries throughout the season. A trip to the injured reserve certainly wouldn’t be a shock, but it would still be a bit of a surprise. Looks like we’ll find out exactly what Haley means tomorrow…or Wednesday.

CHIEFS STATEMENT ON LJ
November 2nd – 3:51 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs, in conjunction with the NFL Management Council, the NFL Players Association and RB Larry Johnson have settled all matters related to Johnson’s recent conduct. Johnson will remain suspended through the club’s game at Jacksonville on November 8th. He will not be permitted to participate in any team activities or be on team premises until Monday, November 9th. This matter is now closed, and the Chiefs will have no further comment.
MONDAY PRACTICE REPORT

November 2nd – 2:52 PM

The Chiefs concluded bye weekend and began work for Jacksonville this afternoon without any free safeties. Jarrad Page was absent from drills, while Jon McGraw is still bothered by a leg injury that kept him out of practices last week. Essentially, today is a bonus practice for prep-work, so Kansas City really doesn’t run into trouble unless both players are unable to go through practice on Wednesday. In Page and McGraw’s absence, CB Maurice Leggett and practice squad S Ricky Price took reps at free safety.

The surprise of the day was C Rudy Niswager dressed in pads. Niswanger was a no-show at all practices last week as he rehabbed what was originally thought to be torn knee ligaments. Reports now say that Niswanger suffered only an MCL sprain. Regardless, his participation in practice was a surprise. It should be noted that he was rather limited with his mobility.

T Branden Albert practiced once again this afternoon and it looks like, pending a major setback, that Albert will be ready to play this weekend. RB Jamaal Charles appears to be in line to start, with Kolby Smith and Dantrell Savage backing him up. Smith, however, has yet to be activated from the reserve/PUP list.

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:01 PM

You know, the Chiefs are acting like a girlfriend(a bad, cheating girlfriend) who quits Fing you, and now, she's not going to talk to you much, but still wants use to buy her lunch on sundays and pay for gas to her parents house for the holidays.


This shit is only going to fly for so long. They're not giving us a professional product on the field, the least they can do is stop treating fans like children. "We're not talking about it, because we said so".

Eventually, we'll just start finding another girl to hang out with.

LaChapelle 11-02-2009 05:05 PM

Most of the talk of the KC media is that LJ will not play another down for KC. Of course reliability is not their strong suit.

MahiMike 11-02-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228149)
You know, the Chiefs are acting like a girlfriend(a bad, cheating girlfriend) who quits Fing you, and now, she's not going to talk to you much, but still wants use to buy her lunch on sundays and pay for gas to her parents house for the holidays.


This shit is only going to fly for so long. They're not giving us a professional product on the field, the least they can do is stop treating fans like children. "We're not talking about it, because we said so".

Eventually, we'll just start finding another girl to hang out with.

Good one.:clap:

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:08 PM

I'm just tired of it.

They talk to the fans like I do my 4 year old, only I'm a little more respectful to her.


I guess fans should continue the traditions that began at the end of carldom....Stop attending games, freeze out the Chiefs merchandise come the pending holiday seasons......

Its one thing to put a shit team on the field and try to sell it as professional football, but treat the fans like shit and see what happens.

I think the Chiefs fans have every effing right to know what the hell is happening with the "star player" they're supposed to keep shelling out money to see.


gee, what should I do this sunday.....Watch the turd-bowl with KC vs Jax.....and then watch the coach blow the media and fanbase off like idiots after yet another disappointing loss and 200yds rushing from M Jones-Drew....or say "eff it" hit the dvr button and do something I'll actually enjoy.

BossChief 11-02-2009 05:10 PM

They should just move Brown to fs and play Morgan. I wonder what the major setback is with him. I know he only started one year in college but at one point he should be allowed to show what he can or cant do i live action for the defense and not just ST.

Cant be much worse than Brown.

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:11 PM

If you think Brown sucks at SS, you sure as hell don't want to see his speed and coverage weakness exposed even further at FS.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-02-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228166)
I'm just tired of it.

They talk to the fans like I do my 4 year old, only I'm a little more respectful to her.


I guess fans should continue the traditions that began at the end of carldom....Stop attending games, freeze out the Chiefs merchandise come the pending holiday seasons......

Its one thing to put a shit team on the field and try to sell it as professional football, but treat the fans like shit and see what happens.

I think the Chiefs fans have every effing right to know what the hell is happening with the "star player" they're supposed to keep shelling out money to see.


gee, what should I do this sunday.....Watch the turd-bowl with KC vs Jax.....and then watch the coach blow the media and fanbase off like idiots after yet another disappointing loss and 200yds rushing from M Jones-Drew....or say "eff it" hit the dvr button and do something I'll actually enjoy.

It's pretty pathetic when a provider of an entertainment service not only puts out a shitty product, treats its paying customers like shit, let's them know forthright that they don't feel they are important enough to disclose information to, and on top of that still has thousands of loyal consumers willing to defend any and every decision they make.

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2009 05:13 PM

This only sucks because the alternatives suck too.

I thought Page was going to thrive in a new scheme and at least a hint of a pass rush. But he's one of the biggest liabilities on the team.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-02-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6228168)
They should just move Brown to fs and play Morgan. I wonder what the major setback is with him. I know he only started one year in college but at one point he should be allowed to show what he can or cant do i live action for the defense and not just ST.

Cant be much worse than Brown.

Mike Brown couldn't play FS for a DIII team.

BossChief 11-02-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228173)
If you think Brown sucks at SS, you sure as hell don't want to see his speed and coverage weakness exposed even further at FS.

true, I guess I just wanted to make a point that Morgan should get a shot if we really are that thin right now.

cookster50 11-02-2009 05:16 PM

That statement about LJ sure sounds like the FO is done with dealing with it. If true, bye bye fans.

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:16 PM

Thats' what I'm talking about.

If a customer of mine weren't happy with the product I give them, I wonder if it would be better business to tell them that they don't really deserve to know why the product is screwed up, blame them for the information they provided and tell them not to bother me with any further questions about it.......or maybe stay late, listen to their issues, ask what I can do to make them feel better about the experience and possibly go as far as to spend some of my own money to make them happy.


The fans and Media aren't worthy of any information, are told not to ask certain questions......but guess who the F pays for the tickets and TV revenue that pay all of those bills?

This condescending BS will turn me on this administration much faster than the sub-talented herd of Jerry's Kids they're putting on the field on Sundays for $150/seat.

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6228183)
true, I guess I just wanted to make a point that Morgan should get a shot if we really are that thin right now.

Morgan just isn't good, and because he's one of Herm's guys, he's a goner.


hell, they won't replace Goff or Niswanger....and they're much worse on production than Brown.

DaWolf 11-02-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6228178)
It's pretty pathetic when a provider of an entertainment service not only puts out a shitty product, treats its paying customers like shit, let's them know forthright that they don't feel they are important enough to disclose information to, and on top of that still has thousands of loyal consumers willing to defend any and every decision they make.

The bottom line is they need to win. Hardcore fans aren't going away because they don't talk about a guy with an ankle tweak and fairweather fans aren't jumping on the bandwagon until the team wins.

If they think withholding information gives them a competitive advantage, then they can be secretive. If they win, no one cares. If they lose, it only makes them unpopular and they'll probably be replaced sooner.

They can sit there and tell us about everyone that is injured in depth and we'd still be pissed at 1-6. Hell, we'd probably also be calling for the head trainer's a$$...

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:21 PM

Fairweather fans aren't still watching the Chiefs after this $&*@(#^**)!#! 3-31 run.

Iowanian 11-02-2009 05:23 PM

The good news is, the Chiefs are preparing to hit a run of teams that are also shitty, so they're probably eek out some wins.

BossChief 11-02-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228191)
Morgan just isn't good, and because he's one of Herm's guys, he's a goner.


hell, they won't replace Goff or Niswanger....and they're much worse on production than Brown.

****in sad how far we have fallen...

DaWolf 11-02-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228200)
The good news is, the Chiefs are preparing to hit a run of teams that are also shitty, so they're probably eek out some wins.

Then again, these are the Chiefs we're talking about...

Sure-Oz 11-02-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228149)
You know, the Chiefs are acting like a girlfriend(a bad, cheating girlfriend) who quits Fing you, and now, she's not going to talk to you much, but still wants use to buy her lunch on sundays and pay for gas to her parents house for the holidays.


This shit is only going to fly for so long. They're not giving us a professional product on the field, the least they can do is stop treating fans like children. "We're not talking about it, because we said so".

Eventually, we'll just start finding another girl to hang out with.

Agreed...

the LJ thing (settlement they aren't saying anything about) and this secrecy shit is so annoying

Psyko Tek 11-02-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228200)
The good news is, the Chiefs are preparing to hit a run of teams that are also shitty, so they're probably eek out some wins.

Homer!!!!

Micjones 11-02-2009 06:01 PM

Put Niswanger at RG Todd-O...

Hammock Parties 11-02-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6228254)
Agreed...

the LJ thing (settlement they aren't saying anything about) and this secrecy shit is so annoying

Welcome to The Patriot Way.

When they start winning no one will give a shit.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-02-2009 06:16 PM

Sorry, but we have a bunch of whiny a$$ed fans. A lot of teams have adopted the policy of not talking about injuries. Two reasons.

#1) The less the opponents know, the better.

#2) Injuries are often unpredictable. A coach could honestly believe a guy has no shot of being able to practice or play, and he does. Or, a guy could have a set back. Or a guy may feel he is healthy, but the trainer doesn't.

In the end, it won't matter what a bunch of whiny fans say about what the Chiefs talk about. Winning and losing is the only thing that will matter.

If they think that the tight lipped approach will help with that..... that is all that matters.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-02-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6228291)
Welcome to The Patriot Way.

When they start winning no one will give a shit.

I hate, absolutely hate that I agree with you.

I am going to go get a hot shower to get the disgusting off of me.

Coogs 11-02-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228191)
Morgan just isn't good, and because he's one of Herm's guys, he's a goner.


hell, they won't replace Goff or Niswanger....and they're much worse on production than Brown.

Maybe someone should tell them Niswanger is one of Herms guys too! He'd be gone in a minute, and we would all be in much better moods around here! :)

SenselessChiefsFan 11-02-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6228191)
Morgan just isn't good, and because he's one of Herm's guys, he's a goner.


hell, they won't replace Goff or Niswanger....and they're much worse on production than Brown.

I dissagree. I think Brown could be the biggest area of suck on the team.

I also think Niswanger gets a little too much criticism on here. I think he does a pretty decent job.

I am surprised how many give Waters a pass. He has played as poorly as anyone on the line on many occaisions.

Some of it is a lack of continuity. Some of it is coaching.

I think losing Niswanger really hurt against San Diego though.

Sure-Oz 11-02-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6228291)
Welcome to The Patriot Way.

When they start winning no one will give a shit.

very true...

Hammock Parties 11-02-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6228308)
I also think Niswanger gets a little too much criticism on here. I think he does a pretty decent job.

He ****ing sucks. Go watch him in the GIF'D up thread.

Awful push in the run game, gets shoved into the backfield in the passing game, when he's supposed to get out in space and take out a linebacker he's not quick enough.

TERRIBLE.

DaneMcCloud 11-02-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6228308)
I also think Niswanger gets a little too much criticism on here. I think he does a pretty decent job.

SenselessChiefsfan strikes again.

JFC.

:shake:

Mr. Laz 11-02-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6228132)
Looney: Page back in pads, speculating Niswanger to IR?

why couldn't it of been this way. :(

BossChief 11-02-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6228340)
why couldn't it of been this way. :(

because that wouldnt suck.

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6228308)
I dissagree. I think Brown could be the biggest area of suck on the team.

I also think Niswanger gets a little too much criticism on here. I think he does a pretty decent job.

I am surprised how many give Waters a pass. He has played as poorly as anyone on the line on many occaisions.

Some of it is a lack of continuity. Some of it is coaching.

I think losing Niswanger really hurt against San Diego though.

What?

Niswanger is the second biggest problem behind Goff. He's the guy who's supposed to be calling the protections.

And by the way, when Niswanger left the game, Cassel had a clean pocket for the first time all season.

The reason the Chiefs lost to San Diego was: #1) horrendous blocking in the first half (with Niswanger leading the way); #2) horrendous defense in the first half; #3) horrendous play from Cassel when his o-line was finally doing their job.

Wade Smith is 1000 times better than Niswanger.

RustShack 11-02-2009 06:50 PM

The line looked better when Alleman played against Dallas, and the line looked better when Wade Smith was on the field. Get those two on and get Niswanger and Goff out. Haley has to see this. Honestly Pioli and Haley could in a way be bombing this season while evaluating what we have just go get another year of high drafting to bring up this talent level and more of "their" players who are good. I mean yeah thats a shitty thing for them to do, but could turn out to be great in the long run.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-02-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6228348)
What?

Niswanger is the second biggest problem behind Goff. He's the guy who's supposed to be calling the protections.

And by the way, when Niswanger left the game, Cassel had a clean pocket for the first time all season.

The reason the Chiefs lost to San Diego was: #1) horrendous blocking in the first half (with Niswanger leading the way); #2) horrendous defense in the first half; #3) horrendous play from Cassel when his o-line was finally doing their job.

Wade Smith is 1000 times better than Niswanger.

Niswanger was lost early in the game.

I don't expect him to be 'great'. I just don't think he sucks as much as most on here.

I don't understand why we bash guys that we know don't have the best talent, while we excuse make for guys who have much more talent.

To me, Brian Waters should take most of the blame, because he isn't playing at a pro bowl level.

Niswanger isn't either, but I don't expect HIM to.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-02-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6228348)
What?

Niswanger is the second biggest problem behind Goff. He's the guy who's supposed to be calling the protections.

And by the way, when Niswanger left the game, Cassel had a clean pocket for the first time all season.

The reason the Chiefs lost to San Diego was: #1) horrendous blocking in the first half (with Niswanger leading the way); #2) horrendous defense in the first half; #3) horrendous play from Cassel when his o-line was finally doing their job.

Wade Smith is 1000 times better than Niswanger.


I wouldn't mind seeing Wade Smith at center and Niswanger at guard replacing Goff.

stormtrooper 11-02-2009 07:22 PM

I hate Brown. Hes horrible and id rather see morgan and page starting..oh and not to mention DERRICK JOHNSON!!!

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6228366)
Niswanger was lost early in the game.

I don't expect him to be 'great'. I just don't think he sucks as much as most on here.

I don't understand why we bash guys that we know don't have the best talent, while we excuse make for guys who have much more talent.

To me, Brian Waters should take most of the blame, because he isn't playing at a pro bowl level.

Niswanger isn't either, but I don't expect HIM to.

Nobody is making excuses for these guys.

The difference is that Brian Waters on his worst day is a hell of a lot better than Niswanger on his best day.

It's not about making excuses for players. It's about putting the "right 5" on the offensive line. Waters belongs there. Niswanger doesn't. And yet the coaching staff doesn't get it.

2bikemike 11-02-2009 07:48 PM

So will Page go on IR allowing us to activate Kolby?

Iowanian 11-02-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6228300)
Sorry, but we have a bunch of whiny a$$ed fans.

In the end, it won't matter what a bunch of whiny fans say about what the Chiefs talk about. Winning and losing is the only thing that will matter.

.


Kiss my Grits.

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LaChapelle 11-02-2009 11:08 PM

November 2nd, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

kb_kcstar: Chiefs free safety Jarrad Page has a badly pulled calf and could miss the rest of the season. The injury happened Thursday.


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