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chiefs1111 12-13-2009 03:06 PM

Screw you Cassel
 
I know Chambers still has too catch that pass but Cassel was awful today. Screw you Matt,Screw you!!!!!!!

kc rush 12-13-2009 03:07 PM

horrible play calling too.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2009 03:07 PM

"Shut up assholes, you don't know anything!!"
"Pioli!!!"

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:08 PM

Shit WR's period end of story...

They failed this team again.

Mecca 12-13-2009 03:08 PM

God he's so ****ing brutal, he doesn't even have the awareness to know what passes you can't throw with a minute left and no timeouts.

suds79 12-13-2009 03:09 PM

The guy just can't throw the deep ball to save his life.

You've got to figure a lot of Ds are just sitting on the shorter routes.

How could you respect his deep ball?

Fairplay 12-13-2009 03:09 PM

Mecca seems happier when we lose.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6342960)
The guy just can't throw the deep ball to save his life.

You've got to figure a lot of Ds are just sitting on the shorter routes.

How could you respect his deep ball?

No shit, we dont have anyone that can stretch the field or catch the ball down the field.

CaliforniaChief 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

A piece of the sky just landed on my shoulder.

This should be interesting.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6342967)
Mecca seems happier when we lose.

Rep for Truth....

Mr. Flopnuts 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

**** Matt Casshole.

suds79 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6342974)
No shit, we dont have anyone that can stretch the field or catch the ball down the field.

True. But even if we did, he wouldn't get the ball to them.

The QB & the WRs stink.

Kerberos 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

:ZZZ:

Agent V 12-13-2009 03:10 PM

**** Cassel. **** Chambers. **** them all.

Mecca 12-13-2009 03:11 PM

Yea I'm happy we traded for a piece of shit to be our franchise QB, makes my mother****ing day.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6342988)
True. But even if we did, he wouldn't get the ball to them.

The QB & the WRs stink.

And when the ball got to them, what do you think would happen?

Ask Chambers about his goal line catch...

007 12-13-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6342952)
Shit WR's period end of story...

They failed this team again.

bringing your bullcrap to the main board too eh?

-King- 12-13-2009 03:11 PM

I can honestly throw a deep ball. And Im not even talking shit.

Mecca 12-13-2009 03:11 PM

And blaming the receivers is reeruned, he had Bradley for a TD twice and didn't even come close.

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6342992)
Yea I'm happy we traded for a piece of shit to be our franchise QB, makes my mother****ing day.

What is this we shit?

DaWolf 12-13-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 6342990)
**** Cassel. **** Chambers. **** them all.

I'd like to throw in a **** Haley for specific purposes.

Jamaal Charles though, good job...

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6343002)
And blaming the receivers is reeruned, he had Bradley for a TD twice and didn't even come close.

ROFL

Agent V 12-13-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6343006)
What is this we shit?

He's just telling the truth.

chiefs1111 12-13-2009 03:12 PM

To think we are stuck watching this for at least the next few seasons makes me want too vomit

007 12-13-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6343002)
And blaming the receivers is reeruned, he had Bradley for a TD twice and didn't even come close.

You will love his answer to that question.

chiefs1111 12-13-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6343002)
And blaming the receivers is reeruned, he had Bradley for a TD twice and didn't even come close.

This

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6342992)
Yea I'm happy we traded for a piece of shit to be our franchise QB, makes my mother****ing day.

IMPOSSIBLE! HE'S FROM USC, THEY ARE PERFECT!

baitism 12-13-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6342974)
No shit, we dont have anyone that can stretch the field or catch the ball down the field.

What are you talking about? We had two plays were guys were open for touchdowns if the pass was decent.

TheGuardian 12-13-2009 03:14 PM

I don't care about that Chambers drop. You CANNOT throw a checkdown pass into the middle of the field with no timeouts, less than a minute on the clock, in the 4th.

Matt also missed two WIDE OPEN guys for sure touchdowns. This has been his MO all season. I don't want to hear about the offensive line. It's clear to me he is not the guy.

BigChiefFan 12-13-2009 03:14 PM

Cassel had bad game, but the receivers blow chunks. They also lead the league in drops.

FAX 12-13-2009 03:14 PM

I'm losing my patience with Cassel. A QB rating of 35 today.

I know that we have problems all over the place, but this is absurd. Too many interceptions. He has confidence issues at this point.

We cannot throw that many interceptions. No matter what. How disappointing.

FAX

kcxiv 12-13-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6342967)
Mecca seems happier when we lose.

Cause he is.

THis team is horrible though.

MadMax 12-13-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6343002)
And blaming the receivers is reeruned, he had Bradley for a TD twice and didn't even come close.



It's not his fault. :)

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2009 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/image...s/viewpost.gif
The truly awesome thing is that all the homers will completely ignore everything Cassel did today and blame everything on the one drop by Chambers, acting like Cassel played like Steve Young in SB XXIX.

Mecca 12-13-2009 03:16 PM

Matt Cassel sucks ass, he's a dipshit that doesn't understand you can't checkoff without timeouts and a minute left, he left atleast 14 points on the field and it's not his fault?

Yea keep telling yourself that, keep telling yourself all we need is better players around him, that kind of thinking is why we haven't won shit in 40 years.

LTL 12-13-2009 03:16 PM

This year or next we need to spend a 1st rounder on a QB, figure we will be in about the same position next year as well as far as draft position. Just don't know which class will be better.

Ebolapox 12-13-2009 03:17 PM

fuck the chiefs. you know what I care about? my girl. who likes to... PARTY ALL THE TIME, PARTY ALL THE TIME, PARTY ALL THE TIIIIIIIIME!

Mecca 12-13-2009 03:17 PM

Maybe they wouldn't lead the league in drops if Cassel could throw an accurate ball.

TheGuardian 12-13-2009 03:18 PM

We don't need to spend a first rounder on a QB. We need to bring in a solid vet to take the job. That's it. We need too many other playmakers to spend a first rounder on a potential bust at QB behind a rickety offensive line.

chiefs1111 12-13-2009 03:18 PM

at least we have something with Charles.

007 12-13-2009 03:20 PM

too bad we are locked into cassel. stupid front office

2bikemike 12-13-2009 03:21 PM

There are more problems with this team than just Cassel. Wide Receivers suck. Offensive line sucks. Defense sucks. Play calling sucks. It will be interesting to see who comes back next year.

chiefs1111 12-13-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6343107)
too bad we are locked into cassel. stupid front office

Yeah,they couldn't be smart and wait till after this season too see if he was actually worth a shit...

Galileo Humpkins 12-13-2009 03:24 PM

Cassel is the type of guy I'd let pump my gas, but I wouldn't give him my car keys.

Rausch 12-13-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6343126)
Yeah,they couldn't be smart and wait till after this season too see if he was actually worth a shit...

Well, they COULD have...:mad:

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2009 03:27 PM

This is quickly becoming the worst acquisition and contract extension in the last 25 years.

Rausch 12-13-2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6343161)
This is quickly becoming the worst acquisition and contract extension in the last 25 years.

It's like picking out the fattest maggot in the dead rat...

Reerun_KC 12-13-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 6343031)
What are you talking about? We had two plays were guys were open for touchdowns if the pass was decent.

The fact that we have a crappy QB and a shit bucket full of WR's....

Tribal Warfare 12-13-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 6343113)
There are more problems with this team than just Cassel. Wide Receivers suck. Offensive line sucks. Defense sucks. Play calling sucks. It will be interesting to see who comes back next year.

It's everyone's fault except Prince Cassel correct?

FAX 12-13-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6343161)
This is quickly becoming the worst acquisition and contract extension in the last 25 years.

It's sure leaning that way.

Realistically, Cassel hasn't gotten a lot of help. His receivers are a bunch of stone-handed idiots. His line is unpredictable and dangerous. His play-caller is marginal, at best. All contributors to poor QB play.

Still, he's throwing one hell of a lot of INTs now ... the one thing this team cannot afford and the one thing he cannot do.

As much as I wanted him to succeed, my patience is running out. Haley has a tough decision to make. A 28 million dollar back up is one damn expensive guy to have on your team.

FAX

LTL 12-13-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6343086)
We don't need to spend a first rounder on a QB. We need to bring in a solid vet to take the job. That's it. We need too many other playmakers to spend a first rounder on a potential bust at QB behind a rickety offensive line.

For the short term yea that's fine, let a vet come in while the rookie sits for a year but if you want a QB to build your team around and hold down the position for a decade you spend the first rounder.


Reality is though, neither what you or I suggest will happen, Cassel will be the starter next year as well.

notorious 12-13-2009 03:38 PM

This team has problems and the QB is THE #1 problem.

Overthrowing open receivers and horrible situational awareness are the definition of Cassel.

If he plays like an AVERAGE ****ing NFL QB the Chief's win this game going away. The Chambers Bowe-like exhibition of hands should have never been an issue (even though he sucks too!)

He is absolutely horrible and anybody that defends him needs to check back into reality.

chiefs1111 12-20-2009 03:19 PM

Great Hail Mary,you freaking douche bag

LaChapelle 12-20-2009 03:21 PM

Cassel was not the problem today
Not the solution either
but not the problem

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-20-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 6343074)
fuck the chiefs. you know what I care about? my girl. who likes to... PARTY ALL THE TIME, PARTY ALL THE TIME, PARTY ALL THE TIIIIIIIIME!

SING THAT SONG, HONEY!!!!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 6364124)
Cassel was not the problem today
Not the solution either
but not the problem

So mathematically, he factors as this: +/-? Got it.

doomy3 12-20-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6364107)
Great Hail Mary,you freaking douche bag

Aaron Rodgers just threw a Hail Mary out of the end zone before half in their game. What a bum.

Delano 12-20-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6364618)
Aaron Rodgers just threw a Hail Mary out of the end zone before half in their game. What a bum.

That may have been by design. A receiver was there to tip the ball back, but he didn't execute properly.
Posted via Mobile Device

doomy3 12-20-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6364659)
That may have been by design. A receiver was there to tip the ball back, but he didn't execute properly.
Posted via Mobile Device

Oh, so in the Packers' game, it was the receiver's fault. Got it.

Bunit 12-20-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6342967)
Mecca seems happier when we lose.

Mecca = proof that skunks **** monkeys. One ugly **** right der

kstater 12-20-2009 05:24 PM

Cassel was only 22/40 today.

doomy3 12-20-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6364718)
Cassel was only 22/40 today.

With 9 dropped passes.

Bunit 12-20-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6364720)
With 9 dropped passes.

Doomy, you are one observent motha****a. I must be too, know why? I noticed that shit too. Holla

Pablo 12-20-2009 05:57 PM

Cassel was FAR from being the problem today. He made like three total WTF throws, but he pretty much led the offense in a solid fashion. Minus our shit WR's.

el borracho 12-20-2009 06:02 PM

Cassel has no arm. What is this dipshit going to be like in three years?

doomy3 12-20-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 6364845)
Cassel has no arm. What is this dipshit going to be like in three years?

I disagree.

You can question his accuracy, but I think his arm strength is just fine.

DeezNutz 12-20-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6364849)
I disagree.

You can question his accuracy, but I think his arm strength is just fine.

Is that why he punted the ball to Chambers?

The one I called a "beautiful strike" in the game thread?

doomy3 12-20-2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6364855)
Is that why he punted the ball to Chambers?

The one I called a "beautiful strike" in the game thread?

Like I told you earlier, I missed the first half of the game, so I didn't see it.

el borracho 12-20-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6364849)
I disagree.

You can question his accuracy, but I think his arm strength is just fine.

Seriously? How often have the wide receivers had to stop on a route to wait for Cassel's "deep" ball? It really looks like it takes everything Cassel has to get the ball 30 yards (a throw that other QBs make effortlessly). Cassel's arm is below average.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-20-2009 06:19 PM

I didn't see the game today. Blackout and all.... But, the stats from this game are pretty good for Cassel.

I know this thread was from last week. Of course, I felt that the criticism was overblown last week after watching the game.

But, this week, he had a good game. The problem is that the team around him still sucks.

doomy3 12-20-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 6364922)
Seriously? How often have the wide receivers had to stop on a route to wait for Cassel's "deep" ball? It really looks like it takes everything Cassel has to get the ball 30 yards (a throw that other QBs make effortlessly). Cassel's arm is below average.

He seems to overthrow the deep ball a hell of a lot more than he overthrows it. Like I said, I think accuracy looks to be his problem, but not arm strength.

DeezNutz 12-20-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6364927)
I didn't see the game today. Blackout and all.... But, the stats from this game are pretty good for Cassel.

I know this thread was from last week. Of course, I felt that the criticism was overblown last week after watching the game.

But, this week, he had a good game. The problem is that the team around him still sucks.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

el borracho 12-20-2009 06:24 PM

Oh, he's wildly inaccurate, too. Whatever his faults, I doubt he goes anywhere next year but we had better be looking for a serious upgrade for the near future. I don't want this clown starting in 2011.

Pablo 12-20-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6364935)
He seems to overthrow the deep ball a hell of a lot more than he overthrows it. Like I said, I think accuracy looks to be his problem, but not arm strength.

Cassel doesn't have terrible arm strength...he just has no semblance of touch, accuracy, or trajectory when throwing deep.

He's either rearing back and chucking it 5 yards past the WR, or lobbing a fly ball. I don't get it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-20-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6364964)
Cassel doesn't have terrible arm strength...he just has no semblance of touch, accuracy, or trajectory when throwing deep.

He's either rearing back and chucking it 5 yards past the WR, or lobbing a fly ball. I don't get it.

Those two. Right there.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-20-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6364961)
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Do you think he didn't have a good game? 300 yards. Two TD's. 55% completion. Supposedly was the victim of many drops as usual.

Just don't see much wrong with that performance.

doomy3 12-20-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 6364962)
Oh, he's wildly inaccurate, too. Whatever his faults, I doubt he goes anywhere next year but we had better be looking for a serious upgrade for the near future. I don't want this clown starting in 2011.

Eh, I'm definitely willing to give him another year. Hopefully we upgrade some positions this offseason. It would be nice if we actually have a group of receivers that doesn't change every single week during the season as well. I'm not sure I've EVER seen a team that juggled receivers and TEs like this team has. Hard to have any kind of continuity with that. Same could be said for offensive line. How many different combinations have we had at O-line this year.

Look, I'm not saying Cassel is or isn't the answer at this point. I was, and still am, a supporter of him obviously, but even the biggest Cassel critic has to admit that this has been some sort of perfect storm as far as things that could hinder a QB's productivity.

From the start of the season, we have:

a different starting tailback
a different starting fullback
a different starting flanker
our split end, and best playmaker, missed 4 games in the middle of the year, and missed time due to injury earlier in the year IIRC
a different starting slot receiver
a different starting tight end
a different starting right tackle
a different starting right guard

and these are all just different starters from the beginning of the year. Continuity does count for something in the passing game. I'm not claiming in any way that many of the changes haven't been significant upgrades that should help Cassel (ie. Charles, Chambers), but it is hard to develop continuity with so many in-season offseason changes.

This doesn't even count our dumbass HC waiting until the week of the first game to fire the offensive coordinator and scrapping the playbook that he had spent all of last offseason learning and working with.

doomy3 12-20-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6364964)
Cassel doesn't have terrible arm strength...he just has no semblance of touch, accuracy, or trajectory when throwing deep.

He's either rearing back and chucking it 5 yards past the WR, or lobbing a fly ball. I don't get it.

Yep. And if there isn't significant improvement with the deep ball this offseason going into next year, then I think the QB position should be a priority.

Pablo 12-20-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6365017)
Do you think he didn't have a good game? 300 yards. Two TD's. 55% completion. Supposedly was the victim of many drops as usual.

Just don't see much wrong with that performance.

He had a pretty solid game. Nothing awe-inspiring, and at least three total WTF throws, but if you're judging by the stat-line alone he had a good day.

Probably should have been more like 23/30 or so really.

Mecca 12-20-2009 06:35 PM

When you lollypop a long throw know what that means...your arm is weak.

Pablo 12-20-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6365027)
Yep. And if there isn't significant improvement with the deep ball this offseason going into next year, then I think the QB position should be a priority.

I honestly don't know what can make a QB's deep ball so widely varied...

Is it footwork, release points, a combo of the two or what?

Because sometimes he'll throw like 40 yards with decent zip and go right over the wideout, and another time he'll throw 30 yards straight up into the sun.


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