What Medicore Player/Coach will be brought in this off-season?
 

40+ years without a super bowl appearance
15+ years without a playoff win.


It's a Hunt tradition, so who do they bring in to "satisfy" the fan base this year?

mike solari

Well, at least you said more than: Nebraska pelini championships relevance gill turner hire.

Yea attack the poster god forbid you actually engage in a discussion where you might actually have to give an opinon.

I think they're going to do everything they can in the offseason, with the renovated stadium opening in 2010. That's what I've thought all along. Because they HAVE to sell tickets now... Unfortunately it's going to be difficult for them to do a whole lot if the CBA doesn't work itself out.

Some kind of bullshit snake oil to dupe the stupid ****s who want the team to be good so bad they can't realize what a collection of sewage it really is.

It's a dumbass question from an equally dumbass poster.

I agree but there in a tough spot like you said about the CBA it could be hard to sign free agents this offseason and if Pioli drafts next year like he did this year the team is ****ed. I will bet they bring in one of the former Patriot cordinators either Weis or Crennel.

first question

is Clark going to spend money?

if we aren't maxing out the cap next year, we aren't serious....

Yea anyone can sit there and call names, wouldn't expect a Jayhawk fan to have an actual take about football anyway.

How can you max out something that doesn't exist?

This isn't a "take" on anything.

You don't got much do you sweetheart?

There is talk Shanahan will replace Kubiak in Huston
would he fit with Haley

Now girls, lets focus that negativity where it belongs and not on each other...
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Maybe you need to just keep your dumb ass in DC.

Someone who is released from New England!!!!!!!

I think there's about a 0% chance that Kubiak ever coaches for the Chiefs.

Do I skin him here
or throw him back

Beat Cleveland to avoid a complete meltdown, and then beat the Broncos to keep them out of the playoffs.... we'll all talk about one of the dumbest sayings in sports, how a victory at the end of one season can provide momentum 8 months later. We'll talk about how far we've come. We'll all buy season tickets for 2010. It'll be great.

I would actually prefer that we get killed at home against Cleveland and lose by 40 to the Donks in the Denver. We need a meltdown of epic proportions and hopefully either Haley, Cassel, or both, are the casualties.

As for the OP, I say they will try to bring in Crennell as the big-name savior for the defense.

Or Arizona. Can't forget them. ROFL

So much QQ ing going on tonight.

... or Miami
... or Dallas

Jim Harbaugh.

I think Clark Hunt is going to go on an all-night bender from New York, to Los Angeles, to Vegas and end up in Kansas City with a wrecking ball and a fifth of Jack. Then the franchise is going DOWN. With a crazed look in his eyes.

WHAT A WORLD! WHAT A WORLD!

Fight sarcasm with sarcasm. Well played.:clap:

And they've all worked out so nicely. Our best pick up actually came from one of our bitter rivals.:doh!:

As we all know, the best way to build a franchise is to be enclosed in a tight circle. Never think outside of the box.

Does Clark even care?

Not unless soccer or his bottom line is involved.

It's working?

If the goal was to create a historical reenactment of the Steadman years, then it is definitely working.

Adam Sandler. Because he can also entertain us at half time with witty, acoustic guitar songs before we all slit our wrists.

LOLROFL

Ryan Succop truly is the lonely kicker.

"Extra points...field goals...at your service....

So I kick that ball and I hope it goes straight, this team really sucks but I escape Chiefs' fans hate!"

Chiefs Might Not Bring Back Todd Haley --
Sun Dec 13, 2009 --from FFMastermind.com

•Fox Sports' John Czarnecki reports Kansas City Chiefs HC Todd Haley is not guaranteed to return next season.

http://www.ffmastermind.com/quickbits.php

don't know if that was mentioned elsewhere today.

I doubt it. I guess it just depends on how things really are behind closed doors.

Crennel and Weis both get mentioned for Coordinator roles but in Crennel's case i could see Haley opening next season w/Haley on a short leash and Romeo ready to take over.

If Crennel took over as head coach I'd slit my wrists. We're all looking and hoping so bad for a winning team that we think that adding RC will make our defense better but the fact is that BB is the key behind New England's defense. If Romeo was the reason for the success on defense, then Cleveland should have shown steady improvement under him, but they didn't.

Cleveland's defense under Crennel:
2005 16th in yards, 11th in scoring
2006 27th in yards, 22nd in scoring
2007 30th in yards, 21st in scoring
2008 26th in yards, 16th in scoring
2009 (after) 31st in yards, 25th in scoring

New England defense over the same period:
2004 (with RC) 9th in yards, 2nd in points
2005 26th in yards, 17th in points
2006 6th in yards, 2nd in points
2007 4th in yards & points
2008 10th in yards, 8th in points

Yes, they dropped after he first left under the guidance of Eric Mangini. Then when he left and was replaced by Dean Pees, they came back up.

As far as Haley goes, Arizona is averaging 24.8 points and 360.9 yards per game. Last year under Haley they were averaging 365.8 yards and 26.7 points per game. Not much of a letdown.

I'm hoping "lotsa" isn't the answer to the original question.

Huh, why do I get the feeling Clark might go to his "fail safe" coach in Marty

Because Marty is a coach that will fill the stands, generate an assload of revenue with little cost.... Plus Marty wont win you shit, but the fans will be behind him every freaking sunday which ='s $$$$$$$

Makes good business sense to me... High reward vs zero risk of championships.

Ty Law is still active

Haleys not going anywhere. I could see some high profile assistants being added though.
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Man, it would be just like Gunther returning...on a white horse.

You know the true fan would be lapping up Marty's return.

Hell, I'd sit back and smile...until the playoffs.

You have a beautiful smile

Don't you think that a move like this would be highly unlikely? We all knew that they wouldn't be very good and there has been some improvement over last year in certain phases. I can see a o.c. coming in and maybe some high profile assistants but not a total overhaul, (at least for one more season). I just don't see the organization admitting failure so soon.
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:facepalm:

I thought Marty said he'd not coach again

Well he's coaching in the East-West Shrine game.

I wonder how Milkman would feel about such an occurrence?:hmmm:

it would be a disaster to bring another new coach in. we need to give Haley some players and see how he can do with a real team

Well, the thread did turn into a winner. :rolleyes:

That said, can I start a website offering "inside" information. I mean I have sources too. They talk to me - in my head. They tell me all kinds of crazy things.

Like Clark Hunt is going to try coaching next year so he can get some experience for his next HC hunt...

Crennel was basically a guess. I don't know what Pioli will do or if his confidence in Haley is wavering. I honestly don't think Pioli or Clark would pull the plug after year 1. I do think that Pioli and Haley himself will try to assemble the best staff they can. With Crennel, Weis, and Groh all available it wouldn't be a suprise to see all 3 added.

If he has a strong staff and still has problems next year i could see that senario.

Part of the problem is we don't know who else was even interviewed when Haley was.

Other than their history and the nepatism the league has in general, I'm not even going to try and guess what hires they will make. Basically just trying some what ifs with the foxsports article.

More than likely if he goes the route of just wanting to sell tickets and that hiring a name coach will get the seats filled they (Clark and Scott) would make a play for Cowher.

Since he has left rumors always connected him pairing with Omar Kahn (cap guy) or Kevin Colbert (Personel) who he worked with the steelers. But it is also the fact that they had a system going and knew what players they wanted and got them. One of the reasons they let players walk is because they drafted well and replaced them easily enough particulary on D.

Clark mentioned the Steelers model along with the Pats as what he wants here.

But that's just speculation on my part. I don't think Haley gets fired after only 1 year.

That's the way i think it will go to. Just had to add that link i read sunday to rile up the locals.:)

Exactly.

Its the only thing they can do to avert complete calamity PR-wise for 2010... co-ordinators on both sides of the ball are imperative.

Haley is too green to have taken on what he did this year & same for next year.

As for Pendergast, AZ let him go for a reason, what Haley see's in him i'll never know, his style seems to mirror Cassels arm * generic stencil lettering* DEFENSE... inconsistency is his calling card, good roster or bad.

But, what if KC gets Cleveland steamered, bungles at the Bengals, and bucked by the Broncos? Will our rage and disgust carry us through the offseason and still be simmering hot by the start of the 2010 season? What about blackouts of games ala Jacksonville? It's going to be a different autumn next year, I'm guessing... :(

If that were to happen would the "Chin" be offered the job? :)

Yeah, i'd say so. Or some other big name. Clark wouldn't eat the last year of Herms contract and 2 or 3 years remaining on Haley's if he and Pioli didn't have something good in mind.

I don't think it's likely but it wouldn't shock me either.

From a head coaching standpoint, yes. Romeo was often blamed for being too emotionless. Not a motivator. Therefore, not head coaching material.

From a coordinator standpoint, you have to realize that coordinators sometimes don't make good head coaches. Without having done the research, I'd imagine those numbers are not a whole lot different from the ones guys like Mike Nolan and Gregg Williams have put up. There's also an argument to be made that some coaches failed because they didn't have the right personnel guys above them--Cleveland was a complete trainwreck under Savage, and those problems still exist to this day. I'd welcome him in as a coordinator. It's possible he's a product of Belichick. But I think he's probably better than we think.

Terry Shea would be a goot fit for Cassel as QB coach. He would have a calming effect on Cassel. Plus he has been a good teacher of mechanics, etc. He is older though, mid to late 60's. He works for the agents and workout places where the rookies go to train pre draft. Obviously working for QB's. I don't think he is a good option just because he was here. I just think he would be a good fit as a teacher and confidont for cassel and the other qb's.

Another option is Doug Pederson Offensive Quality Control Eagles. Former backup QB to Marino, Farve, and then McNabb. Was always considered a student of the game.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...ederson_1.html

I could easily see Romeo Crennel in KC next year. It's a real shame that Dallas got over the hump and beat New Orleans the way that they did. I was really hoping Wade Phillips would do what Wade Phillips does, and that's fumble away a head coaching job. I think he'd be great running the defense in KC.

With Clancy's future in doubt that also opens up the DB's coach job as he is basically pulling double duty. D. Assistant Ronnie Bradford is coaching the safties and helping ease Hoffman in as the main Special Teams coach as Bradford has held that role before. So Bradford could be up for the DB coach job or he could join Shanny in DC as his DB coach or Sp.teams coach. That's where he came from, Denver and has a history as a player and coach there.

Corwin Brown could be looked at for the DB's as well. He has a history with Weis at ND and started out coaching special teams for Al Groh at Virginia. Also Otis Smith as CB coach or asst DB's would make sense. He was already an intern part of this year helping with the DB's for a few weeks mid season.

I agree on both. Once Parcells left Dallas the players liked that Phillips let them run more of a slant 34 allowing for more penatration w/ the front 3 instead of always 2 gapping.

Crennel, Groh, and Weis, all 3 as additions to the staff would not suprise me in the least. Haleys gonna have to get some experience on staff if he wants to be a HC for long.

Bump.

This is truth.

Weis and crennel are mediocre? God, you are grinding the skin off of hamas dick. Hop off.
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Where have we seen this dance about bringing in quality cordinators before? Doesn't really matter if the franchise doesn't draft worth a shit. Thanks for playing.

LOL.

Because we shouldn't try to bring in better coordinators regardless of how well we draft...

How does bringing in these assistant coaches now, affect how we drafted in the past, Weis and Crennel have nothing to do with past draft failures so I am not sure what you're bitching about

billay is ****ing dense. He doesn't even know what he's bitching about.

Billay wants to join the 4 horsemen so badly, he's trying his best to imitate them. Hamas, let Billay shine your shoes or walk your dogs for a few minutes so he feels included.

They're doing wonderful things at mental institutions these days BILLEHHHH

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/5/...eFight_400.jpg

You should be sent to Abu Ghraib and have your balls twisted off.

How many different cordinators have the Chiefs had in 14+ years and how many playoff games have they won?




/ballgame

Is that why I've called out Dane & Mecca?

LMAO

Keep blatantly ripping off Hamas' style with the war-crimes/torture one-liners.

It'll serve you well.

Hamas writes about war crimes? You stupid **** you've offered nothing of substance. For the record nobody has been able to defend the Hunts record on here instead they just lob insults. Go ahead and prove how my statement is wrong.

And you're essentially saying we should try and fix situation 'A' because situation 'B' is so ****ed up.

I shouldn't get this herpes treated because I have tuberculosis. Yep, it makes positively no sense to fix one problem when you have another glaring problem.

I see you keep falling for the bait and switch. Did you ever think it doesn't matter who the cordinators are when the team drafts like shit?

There's only one person on CP who regularly makes witty, timely one-liners about war-crimes/torture; and his handle IS NOT billay.

But go ahead and convince yourself you're original and you've never read any of Hamas' post referencing said one-liners.

It does if the GM will LISTEN to the coaches and coordinators to see what they want... I don't think this happened before with CP