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Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 11:20 AM

Updated Draft selection order
 
<center><big><big><big>PRELIMINARY 2010 FIRST-ROUND DRAFT SELECTION ORDER
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December 15, 2009

(F indicates coin flip required to break tie; Note opposition W-L % based on all 16 opponents this season)
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<big><big></big></big></center><small></small> <table style="width: 524px; height: 883px;" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">#
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Team
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>W-L
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>Opp W-L %</small>
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>1</td> <td>St. Louis</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">1-12
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.548
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>2</td> <td>Tampa Bay</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">1-12 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.563 </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>3
</td> <td>Cleveland</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>2-11 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.519</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>4
</dt> </td> <td> <dt>Detroit</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"> <small>2-11</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.534</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>5 </dt> </td> <td> <dt> Kansas City</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>3-10</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.519</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>6 </dt> </td> <td> <dt> Washington</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>4-9</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.486</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">7</td> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Oakland</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>4-9 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.514</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td> <dt>8
</dt> </td> <td>Seattle</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>5-8 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.471</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td>9
</td> <td> Denver (from Chicago)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>5-8 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.495</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">10
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Buffalo<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>5-8 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.510</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">11</td> <td> San Francisco<small> (from Carolina)</small><small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>5-8
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.548</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>12</td> <td>Pittsburgh<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.486</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; font-weight: bold;">13
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small></small><small></small><small></small>San Francisco</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.490</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>14</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"> <small></small>Atlanta
<small></small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">6-7</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">.500</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>15</td> <td><small></small><small></small> <small>Houston</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.538</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">16
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small></small>Tennessee</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.553</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>17</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small></small> Jacksonville<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>7-6 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.490</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>18</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>Baltimore</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
<small>7-6</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>.514 </small></td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>19
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">New York Jets</small><small>
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>7-6
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">.529</small>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>20</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">New York Giants </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>7-6 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.534</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">21 </td> <td><small>Miami</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>7-6 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.543</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">22 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small></small><small></small>Arizona</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>8-5 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.447</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>23</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">Dallas</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>8-5</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.500</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">24 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Seattle (from Denver)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>8-5 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.514</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>25</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">New England<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>8-5 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.529</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">26
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"> <small style="font-weight: bold;">Green Bay</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>9-4 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.428</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">27
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Cincinnati<small></small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>9-4 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">.457</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>28</td> <td><small>Philadelphia</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>9-4 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.476</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">29</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">San Diego </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>10-3</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.457</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>30
</td> <td>Minnesota </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>11-2 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.423</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">31
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">New Orleans </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>13-0</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.394</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">32
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Indianapolis
<small> </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>13-0 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.481</small> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

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The Franchise 12-15-2009 11:21 AM

St. Louis - Jimmy Clausen
Tampa Bay - Ndamkong Suh
Cleveland - ?????
Detroit - Russell Okung
Kansas City - Eric Berry


Cleveland might take a shot on Berry at 3.....

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 11:26 AM

ya, you figure St. louis is probably going QB and Tampa bay isn't, they have freeman.

who knows what cleveland and detroit will do

i wish Locker would of entered

DaneMcCloud 12-15-2009 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6348766)
ya, you figure St. louis is probably going QB and Tampa bay isn't, they have freeman.

who knows what cleveland and detroit will do

i wish Locker would of entered

Locker needs another year in Washington. He'll be more prepared to start for the Chiefs in 2011.

:D

The Franchise 12-15-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6348766)
ya, you figure St. louis is probably going QB and Tampa bay isn't, they have freeman.

who knows what cleveland and detroit will do

i wish Locker would of entered

Detroit HAS to go offensive line. They opted for the TE in round 1 and it's biting them in the ass right now. Cleveland is the wildcard in all of this.

Great Expectations 12-15-2009 11:34 AM

Clausen < Bradford

The Franchise 12-15-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 6348795)
Clausen < Bradford

ROFL

RedThat 12-15-2009 11:54 AM

At this point, this team sucks so bad BPA is probably best bet. I'd like to see them fix the offensive line, but one thing I definately want to see is this team get a passrusher in here to play next to Hali. Even if they do draft a safety and he ends up becoming good, they still have to address the pass rush. They're giving the quarterbacks too much time to deliver the ball its ridiculous.

shitgoose 12-15-2009 12:00 PM

Cleveland has alot of holes. I could see them taking Berry or someone like Gerald McCoy. They need help at WR, RB, and TE if they go offense. They should take Spiller.

The Franchise 12-15-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6348856)
At this point, this team sucks so bad BPA is probably best bet. I'd like to see them fix the offensive line, but one thing I definately want to see is this team get a passrusher in here to play next to Hali. Even if they do draft a safety and he ends up becoming good, they still have to address the pass rush. They're giving the quarterbacks too much time to deliver the ball its ridiculous.

The pool of OLB/DE's who can rush the passer is deep. We can easily pick one up in the 2nd round.

Brock 12-15-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose (Post 6348865)
Cleveland has alot of holes. I could see them taking Berry or someone like Gerald McCoy. They need help at WR, RB, and TE if they go offense. They should take Spiller.

They already have Josh Cribbs, who possesses a lot of Spiller's skillset already, IMO.

BigRedChief 12-15-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6348757)
St. Louis - Jimmy Clausen
Tampa Bay - Ndamkong Suh
Cleveland - ?????
Detroit - Russell Okung
Kansas City - Eric Berry


Cleveland might take a shot on Berry at 3.....

No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

Mile High Mania 12-15-2009 12:05 PM

Gotta love that Bears' record!

BossChief 12-15-2009 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6348856)
At this point, this team sucks so bad BPA is probably best bet. I'd like to see them fix the offensive line, but one thing I definately want to see is this team get a passrusher in here to play next to Hali. Even if they do draft a safety and he ends up becoming good, they still have to address the pass rush. They're giving the quarterbacks too much time to deliver the ball its ridiculous.

A playmaking safety greatly helps the pass rush. Our nickle corner and safeties are getting targeted consistently and they are a "crutch" to opposing qbs.

Look at how we have lost and you will find that an upgrade to the safety position could greatly improve our defense.

I just wonder if he is smart enough to step right in and make a difference or if he would need a year to get up to speed.

Carr
Flowers
Berry
Morgan/Page

THAT is a VERY good secondary! Give this defense Berry and another passrusher and we will be MUCH improved.

The Franchise 12-15-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348885)
No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

Then honestly.....I don't care if we lose to Cleveland on Sunday.

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348885)
No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

It all depends who wins next week

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 12:14 PM

San Francisco with 2 picks in the Top 15.

If they don't find a way to **** it up, the Niners are going to be scary in a year or two.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6348915)
San Francisco with 2 picks in the Top 15.

If they don't find a way to **** it up, the Niners are going to be scary in a year or two.

I think they are a scary team already now. I think their defense is just excellent. They don't have a great secondary, but that front 7 is the best in the NFL.

They will likely get Mays and an offensive lineman. I think Alex Smith is starting to mature some. They could go QB, but I doubt it.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 12:25 PM

I don't think there's a chance Cleveland takes a safety. The team needs offensive playmakers bad. They aren't committing to Quinn, which means they could take Bradford or Claussen.

Quinn's contract is managable that they could easily take the QB.

BigRedChief 12-15-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6348907)
It all depends who wins next week

yeah, I was just saying that if Cleveland picks in front of us you can forget about Berry.

BigRedChief 12-15-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6348943)
I don't think there's a chance Cleveland takes a safety. The team needs offensive playmakers bad. They aren't committing to Quinn, which means they could take Bradford or Claussen.

Quinn's contract is managable that they could easily take the QB.

They are in the same situation as us. multiple needs on both sides of the ball.

DaKCMan AP 12-15-2009 12:26 PM

Cleveland could win 2 out of their remaining 3 against KC, Oakland and Jacksonville.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348944)
yeah, I was just saying that if Cleveland picks in front of us you can forget about Berry.

I disagree. They have a ton of needs - actually more than us. They don't have anything besides Rogers on the DL (they might even cut him). Their skill position players are teh worst in the NFL.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348947)
They are in the same situation as us. multiple needs on both sides of the ball.

I think actually they might be in worse shape.

HotRoute 12-15-2009 12:27 PM

San fran getting bradford to fall to them would be scary, even mccoy would help. they need to clean house as far as QBs go, a.smith is as big a bust as j.russel and hill seems to be more of a UFL type player

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6348959)
San fran getting bradford to fall to them would be scary, even mccoy would help. they need to clean house as far as QBs go, a.smith is as big a bust as j.russel and hill seems to be more of a UFL type player

Alex Smith is lightyears better than JeMarcus Russell. Also, Colt McCoy will never amount to anything at the NFL level.

BigRedChief 12-15-2009 12:28 PM

has a consensus been reached on the Planet? most people want Berry?

The Franchise 12-15-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6348959)
San fran getting bradford to fall to them would be scary, even mccoy would help. they need to clean house as far as QBs go, a.smith is as big a bust as j.russel and hill seems to be more of a UFL type player

Alex Smith has been playing better than he has in the past. I don't see them taking a QB. And Bradford is ****ing horrible.

BigCatDaddy 12-15-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6349018)
And Bradford is ****ing horrible.

How do you figure? The guy has an amazingly accurate arm. Even this year when he was getting pressured and WR's could catch, he was hitting guys right on the money. He has shown the ability to throw all the passes even to WR's that aren't open by 5 yards despite what our CP draftubators might say. The only question about him is his ability to stay healthy.

The Franchise 12-15-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6349028)
How do you figure?

He's frail like Croyle.....and he's a ****ing spread QB.

Brock 12-15-2009 12:51 PM

Bradford is going to be seen as brittle. He really screwed himself by going back to OU.

Frankie 12-15-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6348766)
i wish Locker would of entered

If Cassel is good next year we won't need him. If not, chances are we have one of the first dibs at him. I think Locker going back to school is a good scenario for the Chiefs.

BigCatDaddy 12-15-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6349032)
He's frail like Croyle.....and he's a ****ing spread QB.

Not this spread QB crap again... Facepalm.

BigCatDaddy 12-15-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6349036)
Bradford is going to be seen as brittle. He really screwed himself by going back to OU.

And he very well might be. He came out of a few games over his career even before the shoulder. This is the reason he drops, but he has a strong and accurate arm.

Frankie 12-15-2009 01:01 PM

Just a dream here, but if not Berry, then would you guys be happy if Okung fell to us and Taylor Mays' stock dropped to early 2nd round? I have a feeling when it's all said and done we will be picking around 3.

Brock 12-15-2009 01:01 PM

Still don't need a LT.

The Franchise 12-15-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6349079)
Just a dream here, but if not Berry, then would you guys be happy if Okung fell to us and Taylor Mays' stock dropped to early 2nd round? I have a feeling when it's all said and done we will be picking around 3.

No to Okung. If Mays falls to us in the second round....then we better be running up there with the selection card.

BigCatDaddy 12-15-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6349079)
Just a dream here, but if not Berry, then would you guys be happy if Okung fell to us and Taylor Mays' stock dropped to early 2nd round? I have a feeling when it's all said and done we will be picking around 3.

Not really. I would only go LT if an Ogden or Boselli type LT was there. I don't Okung fits that bill of that great of a prospect.

Mecca 12-15-2009 01:04 PM

There's been a ton of talk of the top 2 and maybe 3 of the top 5 being dline players.

So I would basically say 99% sure that some duo maybe even trio of Suh, McCoy and Dunlap come off the board in the first 5.

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6349091)
There's been a ton of talk of the top 2 and maybe 3 of the top 5 being dline players.

So I would basically say 99% sure that some duo maybe even trio of Suh, McCoy and Dunlap come off the board in the first 5.

I'm not sure if Dunlap will declare due to his shitty season this year.

Mecca 12-15-2009 01:10 PM

He should regardless of shitty season or not he's a super high pick either way.

suds79 12-15-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348970)
has a consensus been reached on the Planet? most people want Berry?

Seems like for where we are heading yeah.

I'm a fan of Cody from bama but 5 is much too high for him. But this team needs a huge NT that's for sure. I'd feel a lot better about our NT situation if Ron Edwards was our backup.

Frankie 12-15-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6349089)
Not really. I would only go LT if an Ogden or Boselli type LT was there. I don't Okung fits that bill of that great of a prospect.

Hell I don't mind Okung and Albert side by side at all. Though albert has improved some at LT I still wonder if he wouldn't be a great LG as opposed to a good/adequate LT.

Just a thought anyway.

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6349128)
Hell I don't mind Okung and Albert side by side at all. Though albert has improved some at LT I still wonder if he wouldn't be a great LG as opposed to a good/adequate LT.

Just a thought anyway.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...9/facepalm.gif

Awesome.

Let's take a guy who by all accounts had a damn solid rookie year at LT, then ask him to lose a shit-ton of weight, basically requiring him to re-learn the position - THEN - now that he's way undersized to play on the interior, let's move him there.

And in the meantime, pissing away yet another high draft pick.

Great idea.

Mecca 12-15-2009 01:15 PM

This is not a good OT year, none of those guys are worth top 10 picks. And if you take a big fat 2 down player like Cody in the top 5 you deserve to have a shitty team.

suds79 12-15-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6349140)
This is not a good OT year, none of those guys are worth top 10 picks. And if you take a big fat 2 down player like Cody in the top 5 you deserve to have a shitty team.

Nobody is saying take Cody at 5.

And yes he is a 2 down player but this team desperately needs a huge NT to man the middle. Yes, those guys will sub out on 3rd and long but this team has to get the opponent there 1st.

Teams can easily gut us up the middle all day long.

Anyways, It's a moot point. We won't and can't take Cody as long as we're drafting 5th.

cdcox 12-15-2009 01:17 PM

Even if both KC and Cleveland end up at 3-13, the Browns will most likely pick before us. Their SOS will probably be weaker than ours by the end of the season, according to my projections.

Mecca 12-15-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6349146)
Nobody is saying take Cody at 5.

We shouldn't be taking him in general, the hype around that guy is as bad as Tebow's.

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 6349147)
Even if both KC and Cleveland end up at 3-13, the Browns will most likely pick before us. Their SOS will probably be weaker than ours by the end of the season, according to my projections.

Well, yeah. They play us. We don't.

ROFL

Sure-Oz 12-15-2009 01:19 PM

Kirk hebstreet had us picking OKUNG

Cannibal 12-15-2009 01:20 PM

If (big if) the Chiefs make a decent draft choice, he might just make a real impact in about 4 years. Whoopie!!!

Mecca 12-15-2009 01:20 PM

ESPN knows our fan base, they just give us an OT every year.

Sure-Oz 12-15-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6349158)
ESPN knows our fan base, they just give us an OT every year.

I remember last year on draft day them saying we are picking TJ and i was like 'wtf is that'

googlegoogle 12-15-2009 01:22 PM

Washington takes Okungfu.

suds79 12-15-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6349151)
We shouldn't be taking him in general, the hype around that guy is as bad as Tebow's.

I honestly don't care if it's Cody or not. Certainly he's the most high profile NT in the draft from what it seems.

I just hope this team has a 330+ NT next year otherwise this D will never get much better.

If it's Cody or not, I don't care. We just need to find that guy. Unfortunately, like it's been said, those guys don't grow on trees.

ToxSocks 12-15-2009 01:31 PM

Im on the Very Berry Bandwagon. This team needs a playmaker at saftey bad. Hell, any playmaker at the skill positions. Im tired of D-linemen. We need something to get excited about.

If we can't land Berry, then Dez Bryant or reach for Mays. I don't care, just get a damn player who is confident, knows he can make plays on the field, and adds some damn attitude to this team.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6349151)
We shouldn't be taking him in general, the hype around that guy is as bad as Tebow's.

Complete nonsense. Where is the hype for Cody?

He is what he is. A huge player with limiitations.

I wouldn't be too dissapointed to take him with our 2nd 2nd round pick.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 02:02 PM

the Browns will beat the Raiders with FatMarcus.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348885)
No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

not trying to be a jerk but everyone said the same thing about Albert,Dorsey,Derrick Johnson ..... it's the nature of Chiefs fans that we anticipate something going wrong.

taking a safety top 5 is a risk

picking a non pass rushing DE last year and then a safety this year is not exactly going the "value" route

just sayin'

DeezNutz 12-15-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6349294)
Complete nonsense. Where is the hype for Cody?

He is what he is. A huge player with limiitations.

I wouldn't be too dissapointed to take him with our 2nd 2nd round pick.

I agree here.

As crazy as I'd go if we took him in round 1, he is a legit NT prospect and would be great value toward the end of round 2. Hell, he'd be good value anywhere in round 2, actually.

DeezNutz 12-15-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349300)
not trying to be a jerk but everyone said the same thing about Albert,Dorsey,Derrick Johnson ..... it's the nature of Chiefs fans that we anticipate something going wrong.

taking a safety top 5 is a risk

picking a non pass rushing DE last year and then a safety this year is not exactly going the "value" route

just sayin'

IIRC, people were going apeshit at the thought of taking Albert at #5.

Dorsey was an outstanding selection.

And Johnson taught us all a valuable lesson. Not really similar to the above.

Coogs 12-15-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 6349157)
If (big if) the Chiefs make a decent draft choice, he might just make a real impact in about 4 years. Whoopie!!!

Which would make Clausen 26 which is right where Aaron Rodgers is right now. I could live with that.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6349311)
IIRC, people were going apeshit at the thought of taking Albert at #5.

Dorsey was an outstanding selection.

And Johnson taught us all a valuable lesson. Not really similar to the above.

actually i was referring to everyone saying the Dorsey would never fall to us.

Albert will never fall
Derrick Johnson will never fall
Eric Berry will never fall

imo any team is gonna think twice before taking a safety in the top 5.

You better dam sure than you are getting Ed Reed impact before you take a safety that high.

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6348757)
St. Louis - Jimmy Clausen
Tampa Bay - Ndamkong Suh
Cleveland - ?????
Detroit - Russell Okung
Kansas City - Eric Berry

Cleveland might take a shot on Berry at 3.....

I would bet that they would.

Crush 12-15-2009 02:16 PM

We can get Boo Robinson to fill our NT need later in the draft.

HerculesRockefell 12-15-2009 02:17 PM

When the draft finally rolls around, I think KC's 2A is going to be sitting pretty for T Cody.

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:21 PM

We do NOT want Cody.

He is a 2-down player. Plays about 15-20 snaps a game.

I'll sniff Cody if he falls to our 2b. But for now a team with less needs and less at stake will take him towards the bottom of the 1st.

SDChiefs 12-15-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6348970)
has a consensus been reached on the Planet? most people want Berry?

I would take Berry and be happy but would prefer Mays. I love his size and speed. But I think you can't lose with either.

suds79 12-15-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Crunch (Post 6349347)
We can get Boo Robinson to fill our NT need later in the draft.

I hope he's actually about 30-40 lbs heavier than what he's listed at.

Because 295 won't cut it. Am I missing something?

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HerculesRockefell (Post 6349349)
When the draft finally rolls around, I think KC's 2A is going to be sitting pretty for T Cody.

Cody SHOULD fall into round 2 if not rd 3 or 4.

he's a part-time specialist player

1st and 2nd down IF the other team isn't throwing the ball much.

most teams just can't afford to use a 1st or even a 2nd on such limited production.

SDChiefs 12-15-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6349364)
We do NOT want Cody.

He is a 2-down player. Plays about 15-20 snaps a game.

I'll sniff Cody if he falls to our 2b. But for now a team with less needs and less at stake will take him towards the bottom of the 1st.

Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

DeezNutz 12-15-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349333)
actually i was referring to everyone saying the Dorsey would never fall to us.

Albert will never fall
Derrick Johnson will never fall
Eric Berry will never fail

imo any team is gonna think twice before taking a safety in the top 5.

You better dam sure than you are getting Ed Reed impact before you take a safety that high.

My bad.

Don't disagree with any of this. Oops in bold?

suds79 12-15-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349404)
Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

Ugh Haley just p!sses me off with that stuff.

He'd probably find a way to slim down Cody down to where he'd be useless as a NT.

I know I'd rather have the heavier 340 Brandon Albert back.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349376)
I would take Berry and be happy but would prefer Mays. I love his size and speed. But I think you can't lose with either.

people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6349388)
I hope he's actually about 30-40 lbs heavier than what he's listed at.

Because 295 won't cut it. Am I missing something?

I look at Boo Robinson and I think Darnell Dockett.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6349405)
Oops in bold?

ROFL

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349404)
Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

SDChiefs 12-15-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349410)
people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349410)
people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

Fail.

A great safety that can cover obscene distance is like a NT that demands two and sometimes three blockers: it frees up the rest of your defense.

Get Morgan and Mays out there and our corners don't have to play so far off the LOS.

DeezNutz 12-15-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6349414)
That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

They do? They're concerned about max. impact with high-round selections? Really?


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