The last play... Hail Mary?!?!
 

I know this has been talked about in other threads, and maybe this is a repost thread, but I really don't care.

I watched the game on a streaming site, and the quality of the stream sucked bawls. It was better than nothing, but not much. On the last play, the vidio froze up right after the snap, and then jumped to the point after the play was over. I didn't see a replay of that play 'til late last night on ESPN.

I know most of you were saying it was a "Hail Mary", but I thought you were just probably exaggerating a tad. Damn, was I ever wrong! And after 12 or 13 hours to digest that play, I am still just dumbfounded.

That may be the single worst play I have ever seen in the NFL. And I mean... EVER!

Hell, the play before we made 15 yards on an out pattern in 4 seconds. Another one of those would have put us at the 12 or so with 2 or 3 seconds still left on the clock. An incompletion on that same out would have left the same amount of time from the 26 at 2 or 3 seconds.

If that single play does not cause the players of the Chiefs, and/or the brass of the Chiefs to go WTF... then we are doomed.

Worst decision ever by a HC or OC. And for Cassel following such a stupid call, then I have to agree with whichever radio personality that said Cassel = Grbac.

That play was utter fugging FAIL!

Just one more jab in the side of Chiefs fans nation wide.:facepalm:

Yeah that play was god awful.

I too was surprised that it was a lob ball. I think there was time for two passes into the end zone. Maybe with 7 seconds left the defense would just play zone on the goal line and render routes useless? Dunno.

I would have been less displeased with it if the hail mary pass had actually landed in the end zone. Throwing a hail mary pass out of the end zone doesn't seem very productive. It's more like a fail mary pass.

His "Hail Mary" hit the damn crossbar. From 26 yards out. Cassel's pass went higher in the air than the horizontal distance it traveled.

Fail. Fail. Fail.

What a shit way to end the game. Clown college.

You can pretty much bet
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rothlessburger threw a strike in the corner of the endzone to win the game at the same part of the field, he should as shit wasn't going to throw up a lawn dart like cassell

Bill Maas said that right after the NY Giants game

From the 26 yard line, anything that resembles a Hail Mary pass is just absurd. Even if it comes down in the endzone for an attempted catch. Hell, I would have rather they threw something to Charles at the 10 and let him try to run it in from there if they were just going to give up and heave it up like they did.

There was someone wide open, and I do mean WIDE ASSED OPEN, to Cassel's left around the 10 yard line by the out of bounds marker. I was in the opposite endzone, so I couldn't make out who it was. But whoever it was, he was doing all he could to get Cassel's attention outside of shooting him with a paint ball. Anyone see who the receiver was?

7 seconds is normally considered 1 play, so going to the end zone is the right call. Throwing it into the cross bar on the other hand...

I didn't want to believe him. But I think I am going to have too.

Doink.
Game Over.

I never understood why teams don't throw 5 WRs out there......and have 4 of them run to one side of the endzone while the other WR goes to opposite side. Maybe you can catch the defense napping and have single coverage on the one WR who runs to the opposite side of the endzone.

I hate plays where they just lob it up to a group of 7-8 players. That shit hardly ever works.

They just ran a 4 second play. Throw the same damn pass again. Gain 10 or 12 yards or be incomplete. It ain't rocket science.

And a fugging Hail Mary from the 26.... come on man!

I believe they had time for two quick plays.

Wow I didn't realize that Cassell was Catholic.

It wasn't the play I would have called, but worst decision ever? Not even close.

The worst part of the play was the fact that Cassel through it out of the endzone instead of keeping it in the field of play, but it seems more appropriate to blame the QB than the coaches on that.

I'm almost positive that Herm would've gone for the field goal in that situation.

I don't think they could have gotten two plays to the endzone. The first one would have to be a quick out with the idea of setting up a shorter final play to the endzone.

The other interesting things about this drive are (1) if the Chiefs D had been able to hold Cleveland to a FG on their last drive, the Chiefs would have had a lot better chance to tie the game and (2) if Cleveland's RB had taken a knee at the 1 (Jones-Drew style) instead of running around and finally crossing the goal line, the Chiefs wouldn't have even had a final drive.

LMAO

Oh! I meant to bring that up! Should Harrison have taken a knee at the 1 yard line instead of scoring? What do people think?

You should be able to run two plays in 7 seconds. If tme runs out the refs will put a second back on the clock. Oh wait, that's just for Texas.

I'm fairly sure it was Bowe, but it may have been Bradley, I know their # was 80-something. I was right on the 10-yard line and was yelling "HE'S OPEN!" at whoever it was. I was hoping Cassel would try to hit him on the post there and hopefully let the guy run into the end zone, at least give the WR a chance to catch the damn thing.....

I'm sorry, that is the single worst play call I have ever seen given the situation. Edges out the fake FG ran by Janakowski aginst us that was returned for a TD.

A Hail Mary from the 26 damn yard line. That is a joke.

And it was so bad it was laughable.

I agree. Worst play call I have ever seen. I am WAY more upset about the playcall than the throw. Who the hell can throw a Hail Mary accurately from 26 yards out? I have NEVER seen anything like that. Absolutely embarrassing.

I think that play alone is enough reason to fire Todd Haley.

That's an insult to Elvis Grbac.

We were all setting at the bar thinking okay you may run a quick out, or go for the endzone..........then this play happened, first everyone sat there and looked at eachother in disbelief then all hell broke loose then back to laughing at how ****ing stupid this team is.

And when you combine it with some of the other head scratchers from the course of the season, you would have to think Clark would be considering making a move.

I keep thinking of it this way, had we scored and tied, the Browns would have put 400 yards rushing on us, and Harrison would have set a rushing record of over 300 yards on us. I cant imagine that record being broken any time soon either, so we would have to live with that for a long long while.

Like I said earlier, my feed on the streaming didn't allow me to see the play. I read about it here on the Planet, but thought it couldn't have been as bad as guys here were saying. Then I saw it last night on ESPN, and I have to say I laughed as well.

One of my co-workers was at the game and he told me about the same thing this morning. He said it was Chambers, COMPLETELY UNCOVERED, at the 10 yard line.

And another thing... a Hail Mary is designed for a play where the QB is to heave the ball up as far as he can possibly throw it. Sort at the edge of his range for how far he can throw the ball. Our Jr High QB can reach the endzone from the 26 yard line. Our JV Junior High QB may have to chuck up a Hail Mary from that distance, and definately our pee wee QB would be at the edge of his range, but our local NFL QB should be able to throw a pass that every single defender within 30 yards doesn't have time to converge on and signal a fair catch on if you know what I mean.

i love having a dumbass QB, hope he learns how to play better

He probably didn't call the play. Somehow, I just can not see Manning (or anyother NFL QB for that matter) throwing a Hail Mary from the 26 yard line. Worst play ever.

I was gonna ask... how can a pass even be called a 'Hail Mary' from the 26? Surely an NFL QB should be able to get a pass 26 yards down field on a rope. I mean Jesus, that's not even as far as a throw out to the flat on the wide side of a CFL field (65 yards wide). In fact it's not even close. How can you pay someone 10 million a season and not have them be able to throw the ball 26 yards down field without making it look like they punted it?

He can't even be scared of Haley. It's not like he's gonna get benched, because if there was a chance of that happening, it would've already. There's no excuse for not simply disregarding it in the huddle or audibling out of it at the line. It's not like crowd noise was a factor.

I was reading Haley's lips, and he initially called for a fake punt, but then changed his mind.

Didn't Grbac spike the ball on fourth down once? I think that has to be the worst play ever. At least there was a miniscule chance of success with the fail mary. A penalty or something.

:shrug: Fugg if I know! But it was most definately a Hail Mary. Until I saw it, I thought the same thing. No way could it really have been a Hail Mary from 26 yards. Damndest thing I have ever seen outside of the fake FG by the Raiders.

That is just a bonehead play by Grbac. This play had to be called by someone.

Ah. Good clarification.

Mark Castle has been listening to all of the experts who have been saying he needs to get more air under his deep ball.

No, for a couple of reasons.

A) The selfish one - you're in a lost season and you're in the midst of an historic performance. Let the man get his TD, he earned it.

B) The pragmatic one - you're more likely to botch that FG than you are to have the Chiefs drive for a TD on you. A blocked kick, a flubbed snap, a bad exchange while attempting to run the clock down; these are all things that can happen in a football game.

If you have an open route to the end-zone and you're in a tie game, you take the TD. Don't get cute and down it to set up a field goal, take the lead and play D. If the Browns had a 3 pt lead or something (like the Westbrook game), then it's a great decision. But if you're tied and the TD is there, you take it.

That's pretty much exactly how I felt after the last play.

Good times, good times...:facepalm:

When the ball left his hand it took it a second to register what he'd just done.

I mean he MFing LAUNCHED that ball skyward. I'll bet the damn ball hung in the air for 5 seconds. A previous poster had it right, that ball went further up than it went out.

It was as comical as anything we've seen this season. I think the only close 2nd was when he overthrew the back in the flat by a good 8 yards last week (it went about 5 feet over his head and out of bounds). As far as pure unintentional comedy goes, it would be very difficult to top that play.

I'll have to disagree about that being better than nothing.....

ROFL

Good point. It was pretty bad at best. At least I got to see Charles go for 40+ and a TD somewhat live.

Cassel beat out Colquitt for hang time the entire game... that's how bad it was....

I don't agree with this. So far this year, the success rate for PATs is 98.4% based on these stats from nfl.com. Dawson's success rate is even higher than that. The chances of a Chiefs TD drive with less than a minute to go are low, but I think they're better than 1.6%, especially in a game in which the Chiefs offense was moving the ball pretty well. In fact, they came within a poorly-executed, 26-yard hail mary of doing it.

Besides, even if Dawson misses the game winner, you're still going to overtime.

He was trying to give Cottam time to trip over his own feet, get up and get back in position.

I mentioned that to my buddy when it happened.
I think Brian Westrook did that last year or the year prior.

edit:
I see someone else already mentioned Westbrook.

Personally...if executed correctly...I have no issues with the playcall...

Think about it...the receivers had more than enough time to make it a '500' type situation...usually...from 50 yards...the DB's have 100% advantage since they don't have to sprint 50 yards to get into position to make a miracle catch...

In this case...the Chiefs had every single one of their top/tall receivers lined up to make a miracle catch...Cassel just had to put the right distance on the ball...and he didn't...

And also...a pass interference could always happen since a lot of DB's don't get a lot of practice in this scenario...

The pass just wasn't executed...nothing wrong with the call though, if you ask me.`

:spock: ..... :LOL:

rothlessburger throwing a rope from 10 yards deeper lol franchise qb baby!

With only 25 posts, I didn't want to scare the noob away.

As such, I simply read it, shook my head and moved along.

I think you struck a nice balance; well done.

It was in my endzone, damn thing looked like a punt. Shows what a pussy arm that Cassel has when we have to throw a hail mary at the 26.

We were under the overhang at the other end, we lost sight of the ball.

I wish I knew you guys were going I didnt check CP at all yesterday until late.

Somebody must have told him to get deeper to throw the air ball.

Yeah, me as well. Would liked to have met up with OTW and the others. Never thought to check CP before I left.