Jamaal Charles is infact an every down back
 

He reminds me of Priest Holmes prior to his hip injury with his explosiveness. He has the ability to make a big play every time he touches the ball. Has proven that he has more power than what people give him credit for. Amazingly fast. Appears to be pretty damn durable so far. Beef up the offensive line in front of him and just watch him tear shit up week in week out

I still don't think Charles could make it through a full season carrying it 20 times a game...he gets nicked up now.

He is way faster in the open field than Priest ever was.

But let's give him a season of starts before we annoint him the next Priest Holmes.

He is an every down back.. for a year or two.

maybe ... but i still want him sharing the load with a banger type.

I'd still take CJ Spiller if possible...love Charles though.

If he could eliminate the fumbles it would be even better.
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He is good player on a shi$%y team, he is best used as a change of pace player all over the field.

We need to clone the 2000 version of Tony Richardson.

That would work too.

well ... yea, if we could find a fullback that can block well and do a decent job carrying the rock 10/12 times a game.

If we give Charles 20 carries a game he will be broken in three years. If we fail to add any offensive playmakers around him, then he will be broken in two years.

Absolutely... if guys like Johnson, Faulk, Westbrook, Barber, Garner etc. can be true feature players, so can Jamaal.

His recent workload is a bit worrisome though, 24, 25, 26 carries week in/week out is too much IMO. Once in awhile that'd be fine, but otherwise i'd rather see him average 20 carries & 5-10 passes a week.

A banger back is a must, you dont enter a Porsche in the Crashup Derby.

Perfect analogy. I agree.

I love this kid. Lets not kill him just yet.

While this season has been a lost cause, props to Haley for figuering out what we have in him

You mean, props to LJ.

Because had LJ not gone public calling his coach a golfer, and a member of the media a gay slur, then Charles would still be riding the pine.

That's true... and ****'n irritating.

I can live with 4 good years from a RB. Very few backs can carry the ball 320 times for more than a couple of years.

Why would this break him down faster?

I'm assuming he was referring to the higher workload for Charles if he is the best option A, B, and C. I know this sounds like a brutal thing to say, but I think we've seen it in (LJ) that a RB is only good for the four or five year rookie contract. Get what you can while the getting is good and then find another one. Unfortunately with Charles where putting miles on him when we suck. By the time this team is possibly good enough to be contending for anything he might be just about used up.
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i think charles is going to be a play maker, but i want a stronger type back to compliment him. its how almost all teams are doing things these days. plus, part of why he seems so fast is he was pretty fresh, as he didn't get a whole lot of touches early on. he seems to have gotten a handle on holding on to the ball, which is a good thing.

meh, Tiki Barber did it for years. Even though they had another back to spell him. Hell, every team has a 2nd back. He was the workhorse of the Giants who were a running team.

We definitely need a #2 back.

I'm just in COMPLETE disagreement that you use a top 5 pick to get that replacement on a team starving for playmakers at other positions. The Chiefs need a back to take a few carries from Charles and COMPLEMENT him. They don't need a back to take away his job. For as awesome as we think it would be to have two playmakers, how many teams like to use a lightning-lightning option instead of thunder-lightning.

There's no doubt in my mind he's a #1 back. That doesn't mean we don't need a #2 who can take a sizable chunk of carries every game without much of a dropoff.

he's going to come in camp slower next year and people were going to wonder why he lost a step, then take a look how he got the **** beat out of him this yar

Only Chiefs fans would look at a back like Charles, and say idiotic things like what has been said in this thread...

It's true, Charles needs another RB to help him in short yardage. That's the end of the story.

Charles has featured back written all over him. The same idiot posters saying he can't handle the load, were the ones saying he could carry the load early in the year.

I know the glass is half empty for some of you...but stop and enjoy a possible top 5-10 RB when you see one. Charles is that.
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I respect Charles when he said and delivered on a statement that he was going to take LJ's job.

The Chiefs now have a running back that can be respected on and off the field.

He's an infact player!!!!!
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This.

Yes, he is, in fact, a player.

Nope. Haley called the plays and developed the game plan. So while we have a ways to got to be a winning team, he deserves some credit here. Like it or not.

He makes the o-line look like Shields and Roaf are still on the field.

Notice that Cassel audibled a decent 13 yard gain for Charles today? That was cool to see.

Well, that and the fact that he's a world class sprinter...

He's already ****ed up his shoulder, and often it gets dislocated during the game. For a full season he can't carry the load unless you want too see him broken down. Charles has talent, but his body can't handle the punishment.

Priest was crafty but not explosive. He was the master of the 9-yard run.

I don't buy this at all. How is Chris Johnson doing?

structurally speaking some players joints are built better than others. Charles seem like he has loose joints.

His breakaway speed is better, but lots of guys had better breakaway speed. There are few RB's who had the acceleration and explosiveness Priest had within the first 10 yards.

His shoulder has been doing that since high school...

like I said loose joints, he doesn't have the body to withstand the punishment.

Great now, probably not in a few more years though.

Yea they thought that too about Chris Johnson earlier in the season. You are a genius.

If we can get a line in front of him, man, he'll be a top 5 back for sure. But yeah, we need a guy that can get 10 touches a game. I wish Dallas would try to move Tashard Choice. He's a very good back, but he's stuck behind Barber and Jones.

Who gives a shit. You think STL wish they had taken it easier on Marshall Faulk?

go download gochiefs highlight film of priest, you will be surprise of his explosiveness

Dude could kick it into second and 3rd gear very well.Hit a hole find a seam and them boom, hit the burst. Just like Marshall Faulk.

? Whats that have to do with the fact that RB's are only play like this for a few years now?

It has to do with play his ass off while you have him. He has 4-5 good years in him, use it.

I didn't say not to..

No problem. Your comment about Johnson in a few years made it sound that way.:D

Loose joints?????

Fact is Charles hasn't missed any time.

Do people realize that Jamaal Charles is a professional athlete? What's up with all the girls in this thread saying things like "his body can't handle it" and "he's going to break down"? You sound like my mom. He's a professional athlete. His job is to carry a football, and sometimes when he carries the football he will get tackled by other professional athletes. It's okay. He'll survive.

Yeah, individuals with loose joints are more prone to dislocating certain problem areas due to their body structure/genetics, and more prone to acl/mcl tears too.

And yet you support a QB who has missed a lot more time withstanding a lot less punishment?

Nice Red Herring

Priest was very explosive from the backfield. One thing I saw during the game today is that since week 10 JC is the 2nd leading rusher behind Chris Johnson

Mark my words, JC will be our feature back for years to come and will consistently put up great numbers.

"Years to come" is pushing it, if they keep giving him the ball 25 times a game years is gonna be 3.

You don't have to give him 25.

Give him a lower round Lendale and you can limit him to below 20 a game, which is on par with what he's done in college and should do in the pros. He can stay plenty healthy with that workload. And all you need is a big power back, which is something the Chiefs need anyway.

It doesn't even have to be a big guy, but as deep as the RB position is every year it shouldn't be hard to go 3 deep at that position.

Well, you'd think that.

Then we go and draft someone like Javarris Williams.

Well our front office is stupid but then I realize...NE kind of sucks at RB too. Come to think of it for the most part they have completely sucked at drafting skill position players.

I don't care if it's necessarily a big guy. I just don't agree with using marquee picks to do it. The Chiefs need a goal line/short yardage back. Regardless of whether you want Charles alone or a Charles/Spiller platoon. Between Charles and a goal line back and probably a few QB runs, that's good for about 25 runs.

Just saying, if all we need is a guy to shoulder 5-10 carries, we dont' need to use a top 5 pick.

I only pimp CJ Spiller because he's truly special, I think you make exceptions in a rare case.

Wasn't he like a 7th rounder or something like that?

So maybe that one was not a hit but the idea is right.

You can find RBs in the mid to late rounds.

They drafted a RB in the 7th round that carried it something like 350 times a year for 4 years...why would you do that?

Oh, I agree.

I just think it was stupid to waste a pick on a guy that had basically been abused in college.

People need to get out of this mindset that late round picks are just throwaways - they're not. We threw away 3 picks on Williams and O'Connell.

Stupid.

If the Chiefs had valued their late round picks over the past couple of years our LB's wouldn't completely suck.

I'm sure he is. I actually do trust your draft advice.

But I also think Charles has proven to be a special back too. And no matter what way people massage it, they are essentially the same back. The main exception is that Spiller can split out wide.

I know you usually don't pass on playmakers. But I also don't think you replace a proven playmaker for another playmaker, when you have a team starving for talent everywhere else.

agreed

I wouldn't be replacing Charles, I'd be giving teams different looks and essentially taking the ball out of our shitty QB's hands.

Actually I might consider bringing in another RB too. Charles and Spiller don't run the same at all either, and Spiller is a dynamic returner which we don't have.

The team has too many needs at multiple other positions where our current starters wouldn't even make other clubs as a back-up. There's multiple options available on the FA market every year who are more than capable of spelling JC for 8-10 carries a game. More pressing needs are at SS, FS, both ILB positions, OLB opposite Hali, NT, C, RT, RG,LG, and QB..... I look at this list and just laugh at how bad this team actually SUCKS. The Chiefs can draft BPA available at every draft slot and still fill a position of need.

More than anything this team needs playmakers, special players. Without them we're just going to build into a team that can't win big games.

I don't think there are as many unique looks as we might suggest. I've seen few teams run split-back formations consistently with two speed backs. You'd have to rely on more of a gimmick to make it happen. I think the better way to give a different look is to have an effective speed and power back. Because the defense requires two totally different personnel. If the defense has speed guys in there, you plow them with your power back and vice versa.

I'd love to have Spiller if I felt like we were a few pieces away. Right now, it feels like adding Spiller is no better than adding a 2-down player. Maybe less.

And yes, at this rate, if our strategy is to take the ball out of our QB's hands because our QB continues to play like this, then it's not going to matter who's running the ball. We're not going anywhere.

Unfortunately we only have one first round pick... We can't draft Berry and Spiller unless Pioli does some serious trading up in the draft.

You could argue the Chiefs high round draft picks haven't been valued and have essentially been throwaway picks as well.

That's what we're stuck with but honestly Spiller is the best offensive playmaker in this draft.

I know I'm just saying when people act like it's Berry or bust it's not there are some options here.

options? i thought the chiefs had to go oline....

Yea if we take Russ Okung in front of CJ Spiller I'm going to stop giving a shit.

Every pick is important. Some are more important than others, but the only teams who act like late picks don't matter are the ones who can't do it for shit.