10 Players
 

You are responsible for rebuilding the Chiefs for next year. Clark has told you that you can do anything you want with free agency and the draft, but you have to retain 10 players from this years squad to retain some sense of continuity with the dwindling fan base. You want players that you can count on, as well as those that aren't a complete embarrassment.

Which 10 do you want to keep? Should you keep? Which would keep your chances of getting nuthooked in a dark alley to a minimum?

For me:

1. Colquitt
2. Succop
3. Cassel
4. Charles
5. Bowe
6. Albert
7. Dorsey
8. Hali
9. Flowers
10.Jackson

I struggled with a couple three of these, ironically three first round draft picks. I rationalized how long it took for Hali to come around and used that to justify Bowe, Dorsey and Jackson.

Who would you keep for sure?

Flowers?

Replace Cassel with Flowers, and I think you might be on to something.

those 10 players you are keeping are average to below average MAYBE succup is above average *edit* bowe is above average at dropping the ball

I'd still keep Carr and Smith.

1. Flowers
2. Albert
3. Charles
4. Succop
5. Dorsey
6. Carr
7. Hali
8. Bowe
9. Colquitt
10. Jackson

11. Cassel, at this point you would have to. The guy was the epitome of terrible this year, but you have to give him at least(hopefully at most) one more year to prove himself. If he cannot, then you go QB in the first round 2011.

Damn! Building up from 10 to 53 is gonna be a nightmare .Honeslty,I'd rather wash my hands of the whole damn team vs keeping 10 for the base.I knew our roster was shit,but till I had to hand pick 10 keepers,who knew!:shake:
Flowers and Albert are def keepers,but to have to take all the bad that comes with them.......DAMN!!!!

1 Succop
2 Bowe
3 Flowers
4 Carr
5 Albert
6 Dorsey
7 Charles
8 Croyle
9 Hali
10 Richardson

Albert
Bowe
Hali
Charles
Jackson
Succop
Flowers
Carr
Dorsey
Colquitt

I really don't think you should rebuild around a punter, but I couldn't think of another viable candidate.

No need for me to post my list because that's it.

And if we pick anywhere other than the top 3 again next year, that pick will probably not get a top QB. If Suh goes to the Rams, then Clausen has to be considered this year.

Would be #1 on my list

1. Flowers
2. Succop
3. Colquitt
4. Albert
5. Charles
6. Dorsey
7. Jackson
8. Hali
9. Bowe
10. Cassel just because he is the QB. My apologies to Carr.

Actually, I might keep Gilberry over Hali and make OLB a priority in the draft.

If you're keeping Cassel just because he's the QB, I'd rather keep Croyle.

:thumb:

Damn, you're right. I knew I missed somebody important. Drop Jackson or Mays, keep Flowers.

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I'll post the top FAs so we know who's out there.
Offense first-

Top Quarterbacks

Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton, Denver Broncos (27)
Jason Campbell, Washington Redskins (28)
Chad Pennington, Miami Dolphins (34)
Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings (27)
Kellen Clemens, New York Jets (27)
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (35)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (29)
David Carr, New York Giants (31)
Brodie Croyle, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (33)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (30)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (37)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (26) – Restricted FA
Chris Redman, Atlanta Falcons (33)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (25) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (26) – Restricted FA

2010 NFL Free Agent Running Backs

Ronnie Brown, Miami Dolphins (28) – Restricted FA
Pierre Thomas, New Orleans Saints (25) – Restricted FA
Cadillac Williams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (28)
Darren Sproles, San Diego Chargers (27)
Mike Bell, New Orleans Saints (27)
LenDale White, Tennessee Titans (25)
Leon Washington, New York Jets (28)
Jerious Norwood, Atlanta Falcons (27)
Chester Taylor, Minnesota Vikings (30)
Willie Parker, Pittsburgh Steelers (29)
Kenneth Darby, St. Louis Rams (27)
Kevin Faulk, New England Patriots (34)
Jerome Harrison, Cleveland Browns (27)
Le’Ron McClain, Baltimore Ravens (25) – Restricted FA
Adrian Peterson, Chicago Bears (31)
Kolby Smith, Kansas City Chiefs (25) – Restricted FA
Jason Snelling, Atlanta Falcons (26) – Restricted FA
DeShawn Wynn, Green Bay Packers (26) – Restricted FA
Justin Griffith, Seattle Seahawks (30) – Fullback
John Kuhn, Green Bay Packers (27) – Fullback
Tony Richardson, New York Jets (38) – Fullback
Naufahu Tahi, Minnesota Vikings (28) – Fullback
Mike Tolbert, San Diego Chargers (24) – Fullback – Exclusive Rights FA
Leonard Weaver, Philadelphia Eagles (27) – Fullback

2010 NFL Free Agent Receivers

Brandon Marshall, Denver Broncos (26)
Vincent Jackson, San Diego Chargers (27)
Miles Austin, Dallas Cowboys (26)
Braylon Edwards, New York Jets(27)
Terrell Owens, Buffalo Bills (36)
Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (29)
Derrick Mason, Baltimore Ravens (36)
Steve Breaston, Arizona Cardinals (27) – Restricted FA
Malcom Floyd, San Chargers (28)
Kevin Walter, Houston Texans (29)
Jason Avant, Philadelphia Eagles (27)
Davone Bess, Miami Dolphins (24) – Exclusive Rights FA
Mark Bradley, Kansas City Chiefs (28)
Isaac Bruce, San Francisco 49ers (37)
Chris Chambers, Kansas City Chiefs (32)
Mark Clayton, Baltimore Ravens (28)
David Clowney, New York Jets (25)
Ronald Curry, St. Louis Rams (31)
Domenik Hixon, New York Diego Giants (25)
Ghostof Chris Henry, Cincinnati Bengals (27)
Lance Moore, New Orleans Saints (27)
Muhsin Muhammad, Carolina Panthers (37)
Josh Reed, Buffalo Bills (30)
Brad Smith, New York Jets (26)
Bobby Wade, Kansas City Chiefs (29)
Kelley Washington, Baltimore Ravens (31)
Demetrius Williams, Baltimore Ravens (27)
Troy Williamson, Jacksonville Jaguars (27)
Jerheme Urban, Arizona Cardinals (29)

Top Tight Ends:

Owen Daniels, Houston Texans (27)
Tony Scheffler, Denver Broncos (27)
Bo Scaife, Tennessee Titans (29)
Ben Watson, New England Patriots (29)
Alge Crumpler, Tennessee Titans (32)
Anthony Fasano, Miami Dolphins (26)
Daniel Fells, St. Louis Rams (26)
Jeff King, Carolina Panthers (27)
Brandon Manumaleuna, San Diego Chargers (30)
David Martin, Miami Dolphins (31)
Randy McMichael, St. Louis Rams (31)
Billy Miller, New Orleans Saints (33)
Leonard Pope, St. Louis Rams (27)
Derek Schouman, Buffalo Bills (25)
Alex Smith, New England Patriots (28)
L.J. Smith, Baltimore Ravens (30)
Matt Spaeth, Pittsburgh Steelers (25)

2010 NFL Free Agent Offensive Linemen

Jahri Evans, New Orleans Saints (27)
Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (28)
Marcus McNeill, San Diego Chargers (26)
Willie Colon, Pittsburgh Steelers (27)
Jared Gaither, Baltimore Ravens (24) – Restricted FA
Donald Penn, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27)
Jermon Bushrod, New Orleans Saints (26) – Restricted FA
Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (28)
Kevin Mawae, Tennessee Titans (39)
Chad Clifton, Green Bay Packers (34)
Eugene Amano, Tennessee Titans (28)
David Baas, San Francisco 49ers (28)
Khalif Barnes, Oakland Raiders (28)
Alex Barron, St. Louis Rams (27)
Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27)
Jeromey Clary, San Diego Chargers (26) – Restricted FA
Nick Cole, Philadelphia Eagles (26)
Ryan Cook, Minnesota Vikings (27)
Tyson Clabo, Atlanta Falcons (29)
Harvey Dahl, Atlanta Falcons (29)
Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (31)
Cornell Green, Oakland Raiders (34)
Rex Hadnot, Cleveland Browns (28)
Ben Hamilton, Denver Broncos (33)
Justin Hartwig, Pittsburgh Steelers (31)
Stephon Heyer, Washington Redskins (26) – Restricted FA
Richie Incognito, St. Louis Rams (27)
Jon Jansen, Washington Redskins (34)
Charlie Johnson, Indianapolis Colts (26)
Nick Kaczur, New England Patriots (31)
Chris Kuper, Denver Broncos (27)
Deuce Lutui, Arizona Cardinals (27)
Stephen Neal, New England Patriots (33)
Rudy Niswanger, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
Manuel Ramirez, Detroit Lions (27) – Restricted FA
Rob Sims, Seattle Seahawks (26)
Chris Spencer, Seattle Seahawks (28)
Jason Spitz, Green Bay Packers (27)
Adam Terry, Baltimore Ravens (28)
Jeremy Trueblood, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27)
Bobbie Williams, Cincinnati Bengals (33)
Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)

There is no "quit" in Colquittt...aside from the letters in his name.


This team just needs to find out who would shave their heads to win.....then you get your 10.

In no particular order.

1. Colquitt
2. Succop
3. Carr
4. Charles
5. Chambers
6. Albert
7. Dorsey
8. Hali
9. Flowers
10.Jackson

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Top 2010 NFL Free Agent Defensive Linemen

Julius Peppers, Carolina Panthers (30)
Elvis Dumervil, Denver Broncos (26)
Johnny Jolly, Green Bay Packers (27)
Aaron Kampman, Green Bay Packers (30)
Ray Edwards, Minnesota Vikings (25)
Marcus Spears, Dallas Cowboys (27)
Kyle Vanden Bosch, Tennessee Titans (31)
Leonard Little, St. Louis Rams (35)
Adewale Ogunleye, Chicago Bears (33)
Mark Anderson, Chicago Bears (27)
Derrick Burgess, New England Patriots (32)
Phillip Daniels, Washington Redskins (37)
Ryan Denney, Buffalo Bills (33)
Jarvis Green, New England Patriots (31)
James Hall, St. Louis Rams (33)
Reggie Hayward, Jacksonville Jaguars (31)
Jevon Kearse, Tennessee Titans (33)
Travis Kirschke, Pittsburgh Steelers (35)
Anthony Montgomery, Washington Redskins (26)
Chike Okeafor, Arizona Cardinals (34)
Darryl Tapp, Seattle Seahawks (25)

Top Defensive Tackles:

Vince Wilfork, New England Patriots (28)
Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders (30)
Aubrayo Franklin, San Francisco 49ers (30)
Casey Hampton, Pittsburgh Steelers (32)
Ryan Pickett, Green Bay Packers (30)
Tony Brown, Tennessee Titans (29)
Kendrick Clancy, New Orleans Saints (32)
Barry Cofield, New York Giants (26)
Jason Ferguson, Miami Dolphins (35)
Kedric Golston, Washington Redskins (27)
Tank Johnson, Cincinnati Bengals (28)
Travis Johnson, San Diego Chargers (28)
Fred Robbins, New York Giants (33)
Clifton Ryan, St. Louis Rams (26)
Tank Tyler, Carolina Panthers (25) – Restricted FA

2010 NFL Free Agent Linebackers

Shawne "roidman" Merriman, San Diego Chargers (26)
Barrett Ruud, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27)
Karlos Dansby, Arizona Cardinals (29)
DeMeco Ryans, Houston Texans (26)
Kirk Morrison, Oakland Raiders (28)
Thomas Davis, Carolina Panthers (27)
D’Qwell Jackson, Cleveland Browns (26)
Thomas Howard, Oakland Raiders (27)
Antwan Barnes, Baltimore Ravens (25) – Restricted FA
Bertrand Berry, Arizona Cardinals (35)
Chase Blackburn, New York Giants (27)
Gary Brackett, Indianapolis Colts (30)
Tedy Bruschi, New England Patriots (37)
Keith Bulluck, Tennessee Titans (33)
Danny Clark, New York Giants (33)
Angelo Crowell, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (29)
Keith Ellison, Buffalo Bills (26)
Larry Foote, Detroit Lions (30)
Omar Gaither, Philadelphia Eagles (26)
Chris Gocong, Philadelphia Eagles (26)
Clint Ingram, Jacksonville Jaguars (27)
Rashad Jeanty, Cincinnati Bengals (27)
Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
Akeem Jordan, Philadelphia Eagles (25) – Restricted FA
Cato June, Houston Texans (30)
Rocky McIntosh, Washington Redskins (27)
Matt Roth, Miami Dolphins (27)
Scott Fujita, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jason Taylor, Miami Dolphins (36)
Zach Thomas, Kansas City Chiefs (37)
Pisa Tinoisamoa, Chicago Bears (29)
Stephen Tulloch, Tennessee Titans (25)
Mike Vrabel, Kansas City Chiefs (35)

2010 NFL Free Agent Defensive Backs

Carlos Rogers, Washington Redskins (29)
Tramon Williams, Green Bay Packers (27) – Restricted FA
Dunta Robinson, Houston Texans (28)
Richard Marshall, Carolina Panthers (25)
Leigh Bodden, New England Patriots (28)
Alan Ball, Dallas Cowboys (25) – Restricted FA
Dre’ Bly, San Francisco 49ers (33)
Ralph Brown, Arizona Cardinals (31)
Brent Grimes, Atlanta Falcons (27) – Restricted FA
Nick Harper, Tennessee Titans (35)
Walt Harris, San Francisco 49ers (36)
Anthony Henry, Detroit Lions (33)
Ellis Hobbs, Philadelphia Eagles (27)
Roderick Hood, Cleveland Browns (28)
Marlin Jackson, Indianapolis Colts (27)
Tim Jennings, Indianapolis Colts (27)
Ken Lucas, Seattle Seahawks (31)
Karl Paymah, Minnesota Vikings (27)
Stanford Routt, Oakland Raiders (27)
Deshea Townsend, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
Fabian Washington, Baltimore Ravens (27)
Usama Young, New Orleans Saints (25) – Restricted FA

Top Safeties:

Nick Collins, Green Bay Packers (27)
Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis Colts (26)
Roman Harper, New Orleans Saints (27)
O.J. Atogwe, St. Louis Rams (29)
Darren Sharper, New Orleans Saints (34)
Will Allen, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (28)
Atari Bigby, Green Bay Packers (28)
Tyvon Branch, Oakland Raiders (23)
C.C. Brown, New York Giants (27)
Daniel Bullocks, Detroit Lions (27)
Josh Bullocks, Chicago Bears (27)
Tyrone Carter, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh Steelers (30)
Hiram Eugene, Oakland Raiders (29)
Sean Jones, Philadelphia Eagles (28)
Dawan Landry, Baltimore Ravens (27)
Danieal Manning, Chicago Bears (28)
Jarrad Page, Kansas City Chiefs (26)
Brodney Pool, Cleveland Browns (26)
Mark Roman, San Francisco 49ers (33)
Gerald Sensabaugh, Dallas Cowboys (27)
Roy Williams, Cincinnati Bengals (30)

I see a problem...

He'll have a hell of a tough time getting open, that's for damn sure.

pretty easy really

we have tons of guys that are worth keeping as long as they stay on as BACKUPS instead of starters.

careful ... you're almost going mecca with your QB obsession.

Cassel - Primarily because of the money

Succop - Permanent Chief, I hope

Charles - Somebody has to make a play

Albert - Gotta start somewhere to build a OL

The rest I'd take from the defense. Long term NFL success starts with the D.

Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, Jackson, Hali and Mays (?).

And that is just wrong! :shake:

I bet he'd never drop a ball.

If Tod is still here and I am him, these are my guys.
1.Albert
2.Belcher
3.Cassel
4.Colquitt
5.Flowers
6.Hali
7.McGraw
8.Succop
9.Mays
10.Jackson

Only Dane has the power to go full Mecca.....and,he would need to be riding a rainbow-colored unicorn to even come close to the love Mother Sanchez shows for her baby boy.

But the right coverage could bury him.

Agreed. But if I were a for real GM, that's the way it would have to be.....at least until I could draft a QB I really wanted.

you guys are such bastards

ROFL


:shake:


ROFL

If we hire an OC this year, and that OC happens to be a former Notre Dame coach, then we coud possibly be taking a QB. Especially if the Rams draft Suh.

Yeah, but if I'm the pretend GM, I'm not hiring that pretend OC cause I think he's an angry fat man.

ROFL

can i get a mod to change Coogs name to mecca jr until after the draft.





dude has a full-on QB hard-on



hehe ... luv ya, coogs!!! :D

ROFL

He is a former Patriot though... :shrug: Just saying!

:thumb: Been a Chiefs fan for 40+ years Laz. I've developed a bad case of QB envy over the years.

I changed it to 25 because you need backups and ST players, you can't fix everything through the draft.

1. Matt Cassel
2. Dwayne Bowe
3. Jamaal Charles
4. Branden Albert
5. Brian Waters
6. Tyson Jackson
7. Glen Dorsey
8. Derrick Johnson
9. Tamba Hali
10. Brandon Flowers
11. Brandon Carr
12. Jarrad Page
13. Dustin Colquitt
14. Ryan Succop
15. Chris Chambers
16. Corey Mays
17. Javon Belcher
18. Dantrell Savage
19. Brodie Croyle
20. Dujuan Morgan
21. Alex McGee
22. Maurice Meggett
23. Wallace Gillberry
24. Andy Studabaker
25. Mark Bradley

Draft
1. SS - Eric Berry
2. MLB - Brandon Spikes
2. OT - Jason Fox
3. OLB - Eric Norwood
4. WR - Denario Alexander
5. RB - Montario Hardesty
5. OL - Chris Scott (he can play every Oline position)
6. QB - Max Hall
7. BPA

FA
OG - Logan Mankins
NT - Vince Wilfork

Heh... :clap:

1. Colquitt
2. Succop
3. Hali
4. Flowers
5. Carr
6. Albert
7. Charles
8. Bowe
9. Cassel
10. Chambers

I think there are going to be many returning starters, and several spots open...

QB Cassel
RB Charles
FB OPEN
TE OPEN
WR Bowe
WR OPEN (Maybe Chambers)
WR OPEN
LT Albert
LG Waters
C OPEN
RG OPEN
RT OPEN

NT - OPEN
DE - Dorsey
DE - Jackson
LB - Hali
LB - OPEN (Maybe Vrabel)
LB - OPEN
LB - OPEN
CB - Flowers
CB - Carr
S - OPEN
S - OPEN

There could possibly be 12-13 new starters next season....
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1. Dorsey
2. Flowers
3. Carr
4. Page
5. Albert
6. Charles
7. Bowe
8. Richardson
9. Croyle
10. Gilberry

This allows me to draft Berry to have a complete starting defensive backfield, Suh to put next to Dorsey and Gilberry on the D-Line (4-3) or Clausen and have Croyle start at least the first 8 games, if not the entire season.

I'd have my bookend tackles in Albert & Richardson and my two best playmakers in Charles & Bowe. With a solid draft and a few free agent acquisitions, I could have this team competing in under two years.

1. Bowe
2. Cassel
3. Albert
4. Charles
5. Flowers
6. Hali
7. Dorsey
8. Page
9. Colquitt
10. Succup


Pretty much the same as everyone else....that just shows how limited to talent we really are.

cassel-need a qb
connel-like the big body
page-need a shutdown safety
waters-need a vet
dj-great lb
carr-like him over flowers
ron edwards-i like him at nt
charles-rb
weigman-keep cognituity along the line
bobby wade-like the speed

When was the last time you watched a Chiefs' game?

Flowers
Dorsey
Carr
Hali
Jackson
Colquit
Charles
Albert
Bowe
Succop

??? Is this a joke?

I understand this all too well. If anyone had told me what I had to look forward to after Lenny retired I'd never have believed it.

haven't missed 1 since 91

Casey Weigmann plays for the Donks.

So you think Gilberry has more upside than Jackson? I agree with you about switching back to the 4-3. And how are you going to draft Berry and Suh?

ROFL

:facepalm:

Those are the ten players I'd chose to build around.

IF Suh were available at my draft spot, I'd have the beginnings of a D-line that includes Gilberry, Dorsey & Suh. That's pretty damn good. I'm higher on Gilberry because Jackson is only a two down player and I think that Gilberry could have a serious impact in a 4-3 defense.

IF Suh wasn't available, I'd choose Berry. A defensive backfield of Berry, Page, Carr and Flowers would go a long way in rebuilding my defense, especially with Gilberry & Dorsey in place.

If Suh & Berry weren't available, I'd choose Clausen. I'd have my bookend tackles in Richardson & Albert, two playmakers in Bowe & Charles and a QB in Croyle that would start at least the first eight games of the season, if not the entire season.

On a side note, I think that Kansas City Chiefs fans clearly put way too much emphasis on kickers and punters, guys who only play a few downs per game. Succop was the last player taken in the draft; Connor Barth was rookie free-agent. These guys are everywhere. Same with punters.

Guys like Dorsey, Bowe, Albert, Richardson, Charles, Page, Carr, Flowers, etc. are not guys usually found "on the street".

Kickers and punter are found every year.

LMAO

FTW

What in the hell has Richardson done to make you even think he could be a bookend?

And Croyle? He wouldn't last 8 games.
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Loves Bugs was RoR right?

He played extremely well against Cleveland, a team that had eight sacks against the Steelers the previous week. He started 40 games for Clemson at left tackle and has the ideal size and strength to become a dominant right tackle. All he needs is playing time.

As to Croyle, you're speculating. The offensive line was terrible in 2006, 2007 and the beginning of 2008, before switching to the spread offense and replacing Adrian Jones with Wade Smith. Croyle never had a chance.

Against Baltimore, he had no injury issues. I'd gladly give him a chance to compete against a rookie QB, especially given that Croyle has the necessary talent and skill to become a successful NFL QB.

If possible, I'd like to keep the 22 guys off the street and cut everybody else

Nice take!

If he can still play at a high level. I really think we need to resign TRich for a year and let him retire as a Chief.

a 50% TRich is 10x better than Mike Cox or Castille.

You may want to rethink Bradley