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Hammock Parties 01-02-2010 01:30 PM

McDaniels losing his locker room?
 
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=88117

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All but buried amid the Brandon Marshall drama is Broncos coach Josh McDan- iels' benching of tight end Tony Scheffler for the game Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs for a non-injury-related reason.

"I'm a competitor and have worked extremely hard this offseason to be able to fight for a chance to make the playoffs," Scheffler said Friday. "Him taking that away doesn't sit very well with me or some of my teammates."
Scheffler has been frustrated by his reduced role this season — he has 31 catches for 416 yards in 15 games, after catching 40 passes for 645 yards in 13 games last year.

He apparently expressed his frustration to a few teammates after the Broncos' 30-27 loss last Sunday to Philadelphia, and Scheffler was informed Wednesday by an assistant coach that he would not be dressing for the game Sunday against the Chiefs and would spend the week of practice on the scout squad.

"To be honest, I haven't even heard from Josh," Scheffler said.

DaFace 01-02-2010 01:33 PM

Best offseason ever?

Bane 01-02-2010 01:34 PM

He never had his locker room in the first place.They got a little lucky,won 6 games by living on a prayer, and everyone acted their part.The real Donkhole team shows face and they fall apart.ROFL

RippedmyFlesh 01-02-2010 01:35 PM

He is someone I would like to see us grab.He would be ultra motivated 2 games of the year.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6398339)
Best offseason ever?

Just had to wait a little while....patience is a virtue....

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Bane 01-02-2010 01:36 PM

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Valiant 01-02-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 6398345)
He is someone I would like to see us grab.He would be ultra motivated 2 games of the year.

I would have loved to had Scheffy when they signed him, he is a great player when not injured..

Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 01:38 PM

Scheffler wasn't in McDaniels plans from day one. He will not be resigned and we should get some compensatory picks in the offseason. :)

nychief 01-02-2010 01:39 PM

who would you rather have: Haley or McDaniels?


We have our own problems.

stumppy 01-02-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398352)
Scheffler wasn't in McDaniels plans from day one. He will not be resigned and we should get some compensatory picks in the offseason. :)


Someone needs to get hold of MHM or vailpass and let them know their love child has snuck out of the basement again.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2010 01:40 PM

Well, it looks like they are who we thought they were...

DaFace 01-02-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398352)
Scheffler wasn't in McDaniels plans from day one. He will not be resigned and we should get some compensatory picks in the offseason. :)

Possibly. His "compensatory selection" value is probably diminished a bit due to his underperforming year this year, though.

stevieray 01-02-2010 01:42 PM

...I'm gonna laugh if the players mail it in and give up the first loss at Invesco

DaFace 01-02-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 6398353)
who would you rather have: Haley or McDaniels?


We have our own problems.

I'm not convinced either of them will be coaching a year or two from now.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2010 01:45 PM

McDaniels is an idiot, and while highly unlikely that we win, I hope this little stunt costs them a playoff berth - THEN we can talk about him REALLY losing the locker room.

Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6398363)
I'm not convinced either of them will be coaching a year or two from now.

McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

DaFace 01-02-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

By alienating your best players? Sounds like something Pat would do I guess.

SDChiefs 01-02-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

Riiight. And we will win the Super Bowl next year.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6398348)
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ROFL That's awesome.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6398376)
By alienating your best players? Sounds like something Pat would do I guess.

Really, he's alienating everyone.

How do you think a guy like Weigmann feels, knowing that this may be his last shot at the playoffs - and that his dipshit HC, who's younger than he is, is willing to risk everything to try to prove a point?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

He's no Todd Haley.

KCDC 01-02-2010 01:54 PM

We have too many TEs, but none of them are special. Cottam has one good game and people are looking to annoint him, even with his injury history. Ryan is no answer. O'Connell hasn't shown anything. Pope is basically like Cottam IMO, so signing Scheffler as a FA is not a bad move. One of them is bound to be decent next year.

Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6398376)
By alienating your best players? Sounds like something Pat would do I guess.

He is building the team the way he wants it. You haven't heard Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins, Clady, Dumervil, Brandon Marshall, or Orton say anything negative about McDaniels.

Scheffler and Cutler are the only two and they weren't in McDaniels plans from the get go.

Crush 01-02-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.



You must be very dizzy from all the spinning.

Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6398385)
Really, he's alienating everyone.

How do you think a guy like Weigmann feels, knowing that this may be his last shot at the playoffs - and that his dipshit HC, who's younger than he is, is willing to risk everything to try to prove a point?


Weigman wanted a contract extension before training camp and McDaniels gave it to him. He will be here next year. If he didn't want to be here he would have retired.

SAUTO 01-02-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398391)
He is building the team the way he wants it. You haven't heard Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins, Clady, Dumervil, Brandon Marshall, or Orton say anything negative about McDaniels.

Scheffler and Cutler are the only two and they weren't in McDaniels plans from the get go.

marshall and the coach not playing comment. where u been?
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Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6398394)
marshall and the coach not playing comment. where u been?
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Brandon Marshall has said numerous times that he has never had a problem with McDaniels, and everytime he makes a big play he runs up to McDaniels.

That comment is just media fodder.

SAUTO 01-02-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398399)
Brandon Marshall has said numerous times that he has never had a problem with McDaniels, and everytime he makes a big play he runs up to McDaniels.

That comment is just media fodder.

right and i bet you still believe marshall will play sunday
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Dallas Chief 01-02-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398391)
He is building the team the way he wants it. You haven't heard Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins, Clady, Dumervil, Brandon Marshall, or Orton say anything negative about McDaniels.

Scheffler and Cutler are the only two and they weren't in McDaniels plans from the get go.

Is there no limit to your donkey-douchiness??? Are you just making this up as you go along? Look up the word malcontent in the dictionary and you will find a picture of Brandon Marshall. Why don't you run along back to the OrangeDrain and slobber all over your fellow donknuts. You wore out your welcome around here a long time ago.

Bane 01-02-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

:bong:

jspchief 01-02-2010 02:08 PM

Marshall was on sportscenter this morning bitching because McDaniels is sitting him and questioned the severity of his injury. So yea, I have heard marshall bitching about it.

Mecca 01-02-2010 02:09 PM

I think pissing off your best player in his FA year is a great idea for a head coach...

McDaniels is a flaming douche.

LaChapelle 01-02-2010 02:17 PM

If the Broncos should, on the off chance, run out of time sunday
it will be a long offseason for McFistPump

Crush 01-02-2010 02:17 PM

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Valiant 01-02-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

Ahahahaha... So Bowlen let him dismantle a team that was closer to a Superbowl quality team that you have had since Elways, so he can build a new one in 3-5 years and kickout all of the star players..

gotcha, that makes total sense..

Valiant 01-02-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398391)
He is building the team the way he wants it. You haven't heard Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins, Clady, Dumervil, Brandon Marshall, or Orton say anything negative about McDaniels.

Scheffler and Cutler are the only two and they weren't in McDaniels plans from the get go.

No unlike your coach they are smart enough to keep it out of the papers.. The play of the players is telling another story though..

Bane 01-02-2010 02:27 PM

This has been coming since McFistpump suspended Marshall in the pre season.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2010 02:27 PM

McDaniels is a ****ing idiot. All he had to say about Marshall was his hammy was bothering him and this whole thing would be a non-issue.

jspchief 01-02-2010 02:28 PM

I agree that you need to let your coach build his team. You can't bring in a guy and not buy into what he wants the team to be.

That being said, Denver has some young talent, and Bowlen probably should have hired a guy that was going to use that talent rather than run it off.

Mecca 01-02-2010 02:30 PM

Any coach that runs off Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall is a flaming dipshit.

I wonder if he uses phrases like right 53, being from NE and all.

stevieray 01-02-2010 02:30 PM

...I hope we beat the Denver Marshall's...it will be funny, but I'm not counting on a victory.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-02-2010 02:30 PM

He came from New England, therefore he can do no wrong.

Hootie 01-02-2010 02:31 PM

Dude Denver might win 10 games a year for the next decade...

But they are never going to win a Super Bowl with Kyle Orton at QB...so until they get a QB, enough with the 3-5 years garbage.

Mecca 01-02-2010 02:32 PM

When your team has to find a QB you can't be throwing out time frames for winning shit.

Denver today is further from a bowl than they were last year at this time just for their reeruned roster moves.

stevieray 01-02-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 6398440)

That being said, Denver has some young talent, and Bowlen probably should have hired a guy that was going to use that talent rather than run it off.

I would imagine that Boweln would be aware of any move of this sort before it happened.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-02-2010 02:37 PM

You just gotta believe the process. It's not about the best 53, it's about the right 53. If you buy in to the Patriot way, and fall in to the most fortuitous draft pick in NFL history, you too can build a dynasty.

B_Ambuehl 01-02-2010 02:38 PM

Knowmo you're even more gullible then some chiefs fans who readily buy into whatever positive diarrhea the media wants to feed them.

The only thing McDouche has done is make worse an already good offense, burn a bunch of draft picks, and run off a lot of good players.

By far the best coaching asset on that team is the guy running the defense. If Bowlen were smart he'd send McDouche back to kindergarden and give the head coaching title to Nolan. In 25 years of football I can't ever recall at any level seeing a guy so obviously in over his head

Mecca 01-02-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6398483)
You just gotta believe the process. It's not about the best 53, it's about the right 53. If you buy in to the Patriot way, and fall in to the most fortuitous draft pick in NFL history, you too can build a dynasty.

That's the thing that gets me, I wonder if people realize the way the Patriots built that team had a ton of luck involved, it is not a repeatable process.

The way the Colts, Chargers, Eagles and Ravens have been built however is a repeatable process and plays odds.

DeezNutz 01-02-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6398483)
You just gotta believe the process. It's not about the best 53, it's about the right 53. If you buy in to the Patriot way, and fall in to the most fortuitous draft pick in NFL history, you too can build a dynasty.

First, you have to get a coach with fire in his belly who can help change the culture.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2010 02:40 PM

Drafturbators are going to cum all over this thread!

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-02-2010 02:40 PM

I'm still beside myself that they traded a 1st round draft pick for a ****ing dime back.

MMXcalibur 01-02-2010 02:45 PM

*fist pump*

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-02-2010 02:45 PM

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Hammock Parties 01-02-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6398501)
I'm still beside myself that they traded a 1st round draft pick for a ****ing dime back.

That was really ****ing dumb. I'm sure they think he's gonna be a starter or something, though.

Still dumb.

Dumber than any move Pioli made, IMO.

Mile High Mania 01-02-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
McDaniels will be Denver's coach for a long time. Bowlen is letting Josh build the team the way he wants it. Denver should be in the Super Bowl within the next 3-5 years with McDaniels.

:rolleyes:

Hootie 01-02-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6398492)
That's the thing that gets me, I wonder if people realize the way the Patriots built that team had a ton of luck involved, it is not a repeatable process.

The way the Colts, Chargers, Eagles and Ravens have been built however is a repeatable process and plays odds.

I just can't give that much credit to the Colts...

If the Chiefs had landed Peyton Manning in that draft, Carl Peterson would still be GM, everyone would love the guy, and the Chiefs would have been the most winning team of the decade, and we'd probably have a Super Bowl...

If you watched the Colts game this past week...

They benched their starting LT (interchangeable parts), let Addai play a series, Freeney only played on 3rd downs, and a lot of their defense sat that easily could have played...

and there was no freaking difference...Manning slightly overthrew Wayne and Clark in the 1st half (where Wayne was wide open for a TD, and Clark wide open for a 40 yard gain on 3rd down) otherwise they would have led 21-3 instead of 9-3.

There was no difference between Tony Ugoh and Charlie Johnson...no one on the Jets even laid a finger on Peyton Manning...

It's like the 99% rule around that guy...Harrison retires, 1st round pick Anthony Gonzalez lands on IR...all of the sudden Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon step in and they lose nothing...

Now we can keep chalking this up to Bill Polian...

or we can just acknowledge they landed a once in a lifetime player that just makes everything around him better...

INCLUDING the defense...

that defense is built around Peyton Manning...which is the crazy thing...

They are built to play with the lead...

MMXcalibur 01-02-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398372)
I love dicks. Lots of big dicks. Especially Josh McDaniels dick. DICK DICK DICK COCK DICK

Dude....wtf?

Hootie 01-02-2010 02:52 PM

Well after watching Maclin, Harvin, Crabtree, etc...

I'm officially pretty pissed off about the Tyson Jackson pick...I don't really even care if that guy turns out to be the best 5 technique in the history of the NFL...

Mecca 01-02-2010 02:58 PM

You can throw out any WR, most of the high pick WR's from this class have been good, Nicks has outperformed Crabtree so far.

Give the Colts GM credit though he built 3 very successful teams, obviously he has a repeatable process.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-02-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6398526)
I just can't give that much credit to the Colts...

If the Chiefs had landed Peyton Manning in that draft, Carl Peterson would still be GM, everyone would love the guy, and the Chiefs would have been the most winning team of the decade, and we'd probably have a Super Bowl...

If you watched the Colts game this past week...

They benched their starting LT (interchangeable parts), let Addai play a series, Freeney only played on 3rd downs, and a lot of their defense sat that easily could have played...

and there was no freaking difference...Manning slightly overthrew Wayne and Clark in the 1st half (where Wayne was wide open for a TD, and Clark wide open for a 40 yard gain on 3rd down) otherwise they would have led 21-3 instead of 9-3.

There was no difference between Tony Ugoh and Charlie Johnson...no one on the Jets even laid a finger on Peyton Manning...

It's like the 99% rule around that guy...Harrison retires, 1st round pick Anthony Gonzalez lands on IR...all of the sudden Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon step in and they lose nothing...

Now we can keep chalking this up to Bill Polian...

or we can just acknowledge they landed a once in a lifetime player that just makes everything around him better...

INCLUDING the defense...

that defense is built around Peyton Manning...which is the crazy thing...

They are built to play with the lead...

Every time you post you continue to illustrate the fallacy of your idea that no one on here knows more than other people.

No bend but don't break defense is built to play with the lead.

Freeney and Mathis being good pass rushers simply means that they are good at their jobs, and a Tampa 2 defense needs undersized ends that get after the QB. They built that defense b/c their previous coach was Tampa 2 through and through.

And if you want to bash Polian, you might want to look at some of the other places he's been, like say Buffalo, where he built a team that went to 4 straight SBs, or Carolina, where in two years he built a team that went to the NFC title game, or perhaps Indianapolis.

And let's not forget who drafted Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf, who drafted Edge over Ricky Williams, who drafted Dwight Freeney, Reggie Wayne, Robert Mathis in the fifth, Cato June in the 6th, who signed Jeff Saturday, Raheem Brock, Gary Brackett, Nick Harper, and Ryan Lilja.

But yes, I'm sure that the success of Dwight Freeney playing end, Mike Peterson playing linebacker (once upon a time), or Bob Sanders playing safety has to due with Peyton Manning playing quarterback.

That's a criminally stupid analysis.

There are 53 players on the Colts roster and all 53 were brought in by Polian.

Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6398457)
When your team has to find a QB you can't be throwing out time frames for winning shit.

Denver today is further from a bowl than they were last year at this time just for their reeruned roster moves.

McDaniels is a QB guru in a QB driven league. The QB position under McDaniels is like Shanahan with RB's.

Bane 01-02-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398561)
McDaniels is a QB guru in a QB driven league. The QB position under McDaniels is like Shanahan with RB's.

Wow! Seriously?ROFL

Mile High Mania 01-02-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398561)
McDaniels is a QB guru in a QB driven league. The QB position under McDaniels is like Shanahan with RB's.

Please stop...

McD needs to fix the problem with the slow starts and if he's hell bent on NOT using guys like Hillis, Scheffler and Royal... figure something out. I think McD has good upside, but he's a guru of nothing so far as a HC.

The only consistent thing has been consistency and player issues.

Quesadilla Joe 01-02-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6398566)
Wow! Seriously?ROFL

Look at your boy Matt Cassel. McDaniels got him a $60,000,000 contract in one year.


And look what he has done with Kyle Orton...

Orton already has tied John Elway's franchise record for most games in a season with a QB Rating of 90 or higher, has career highs in yards, completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown passes, and a career low in INT's.

Denver will not have any problems at the QB position as long as McDaniels is around.

Brock 01-02-2010 03:30 PM

I remember how you guys used to blather about how Shanahan has coached up Jake Plummer and the Super Bowl was just around the corner.

Mile High Mania 01-02-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6398576)
I remember how you guys used to blather about how Shanahan has coached up Jake Plummer and the Super Bowl was just around the corner.

Hey - they were one game away in 2005...

Bane 01-02-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398572)
Look at your boy Matt Cassel. McDaniels got him a $60,000,000 contract in one year.


And look what he has done with Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton...

Orton already has tied John Elway's franchise record for most games in a season with a QB Rating of 90 or higher, has career highs in yards, completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown passes, and a career low in INT's.

Denver will not have any problems at the QB position as long as McDaniels is around.

Well the whole Matt Cassel experiment is a joke IMO,and yeah,Orton has had a good season so far.Your argument looses all weight when you factor in your teams late season choke fest,maybe McDipshit is a better OC/QB coach than a HC.

Mile High Mania 01-02-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6398581)
Well the whole Matt Cassel experiment is a joke IMO,and yeah,Orton has had a good season so far.Your argument looses all weight when you factor in your teams last season choke fest,maybe McDipshit is a better OC/QB coach than a HC.

The last 9 games have been brutal... they bye week came a long and BAM, downward spiral.

Losses @ BAL / @ IND / @ PHI - Home losses to PIT and SD.

Those 5 losses aren't really that hard to justify. The Redskins and Raiders are bitter pills to swallow though. It really wouldn't be such doom and gloom had it not been for the stinkers @ WAS and vs OAK... those 2 games really put a damper on the ENTIRE season. The lone wins vs the Giants and at KC.

Mecca 01-02-2010 03:37 PM

Kyle Orton wouldn't look half that good if his passing game wasn't centered on "I'm just going to throw this ball up at Brandon Marshall and see what happens" and that looks like it's not going to be an option much longer.

Say what you will, talent wins games. Running off the best players on the roster will only hurt the team.

CaliforniaChief 01-02-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6398572)
Look at your boy Matt Cassel. McDaniels got him a $60,000,000 contract in one year.


And look what he has done with Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton...

Orton already has tied John Elway's franchise record for most games in a season with a QB Rating of 90 or higher, has career highs in yards, completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown passes, and a career low in INT's.

Denver will not have any problems at the QB position as long as McDaniels is around.

Your spinning makes the former Iraqi Information Director dizzy.

That this kind of garbage is happening the week of this game where there are still playoff implications says everything you need to know about where the Broncos stand.

It doesn't mean they won't win nor does it mean they haven't exceeded my expectations. It DOES mean that there are serious issues in that locker room. Whether Scheffler was or wasn't a part of future plans has nothing to do with his healthy scratch tomorrow. Is there any question he's their best option at TE to compete, especially with the backup questionable?

Mile High Mania 01-02-2010 03:41 PM

Oh yeah, just wanted to add that it's times like this when I appreciate being less insanely tied to the wins and losses of my favorite NFL team.

CaliforniaChief 01-02-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6398602)
Oh yeah, just wanted to add that it's times like this when I appreciate being less insanely tied to the wins and losses of my favorite NFL team.

Well that we have in common, bro. :D

Mecca 01-02-2010 03:44 PM

Both of our teams hired New England guys...history says they we'll both epically fail because of it.

McDaniels looks more and more like Eric Mangini everyday, these guys think they are Belichick and come off like power crazed douches.

orange 01-02-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6398358)
Possibly. His "compensatory selection" value is probably diminished a bit due to his underperforming year this year, though.

I don't think that matters. I believe the compensatory picks are based on how the free agent performs on his new team.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6398444)
Any coach that runs off Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall is a flaming dipshit.

I wonder if he uses phrases like right 53, being from NE and all.

Yes, because Cutler is sure lighting it up. Tell us again what an idiot McDaniels was for trading the Broncos' pick and keeping Chicago's.

Mecca 01-02-2010 04:03 PM

Yea and you'd rather have Orton than Cutler right?

orange 01-02-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6398630)
Yea and you'd rather have Orton than Cutler right?

Yes, actually.

Wake me when Cutloser ever has a winning record.

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Mecca 01-02-2010 04:06 PM

Yes the Bears losing record has nothing to do with their shitty defense or having the worst offensive line in football, it's all Cutlers fault!

If you really believe Orton is better than Cutler or you'd rather have him you're just lying to yourself.

orange 01-02-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6398633)
Yes the Bears losing record has nothing to do with their shitty defense or having the worst offensive line in football, it's all Cutlers fault!

If you really believe Orton is better than Cutler or you'd rather have him you're just lying to yourself.


It's funny how every team Cutloser goes to just seems to fall apart.

It's never about him, though. He's just unlucky.

Mecca 01-02-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 6398636)
It's funny how every team Cutloser goes to just seems to fall apart.

It's never about him, though. He's just unlucky.

So what's the Broncos excuse now?

orange 01-02-2010 04:14 PM

Excuse for what? They're going to do at least as well as last year - in their HC's first year, with a new DC and defensive system, over 50% roster turnover, etc. What did you pick for their record in the pre-season - 3-13? They must be VASTLY overproducing based on the mighty Mecca talent scale.


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