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Shag 01-03-2010 10:30 AM

ESPN - Crennel likely to join Chiefs
 
Schefter just mentioned on ESPN Sunday Countdown that Romeo Crennel was likely to join the Chiefs as DC this offseason. Nothing concrete (or necessarily surprising), but interesting nonetheless...

Bane 01-03-2010 10:31 AM

I just caught that.:shrug: Anyone would be an upgrade over Clancy.

cdcox 01-03-2010 10:32 AM

It's the system.

Dante84 01-03-2010 10:32 AM

**** YES.

chiefzilla1501 01-03-2010 10:32 AM

Just saw that too. Thought that was very, very interesting.

Don't know how to feel about it. But my sense is he's a much better coordinator than he is a head coach, like Nolan and Gregg Williams are.

cdcox 01-03-2010 10:33 AM

Added benefit is that now we can bring in ex-Browns players too.

milkman 01-03-2010 10:33 AM

I wonder of he takes on the DC title, or the Chiefs do a Redskin/Saunders type thing where they give him a title like Associate HC-defense, while retaining Pendergast.

Crennel would be the defacto DC, but Haley doesn't humiliate his friend.

Dante84 01-03-2010 10:34 AM

He knows the 3-4, and can evaluate talent. He just can't head coach his way out of a paper bag.

I think he will be an icky DC, though. And we won't have to worry about him getting another HC opportunity, so he might be with us for the long haul.

Marcellus 01-03-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 6400306)
Added benefit is that now we can bring in ex-Browns players too.

I thought all the ex Browns were in Denver.

Dante84 01-03-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 6400306)
Added benefit is that now we can bring in ex-Browns players too.

The "Brownsification" begins.....

Yoshua Cribbs, anyone?

Mr. Laz 01-03-2010 10:34 AM

that would be good news imo

not fantastic news but crennel will be an upgrade

KCrockaholic 01-03-2010 10:34 AM

This would be great. Best offseason ever, 2010? just playin.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6400308)
but Haley doesn't humiliate his friend.

except for when he tells them to "**** off" on national t.v.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 10:35 AM

It sounds like fantastic news to me, because he is SUCH an upgrade over Pendergast.

Bane 01-03-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6400312)
The "Brownsification" begins.....

Yoshua Cribbs, anyone?

The KC Chiefbrownpats.ROFL

milkman 01-03-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6400316)
except for when he tells them to "**** off" on national t.v.

That isn't humiliating.

Haven't you ever told a friend to **** off?

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6400308)
I wonder of he takes on the DC title, or the Chiefs do a Redskin/Saunders type thing where they give him a title like Associate HC-defense, while retaining Pendergast.

Crennel would be the defacto DC, but Haley doesn't humiliate his friend.

Haley needs to humiliate his friend.

KCrockaholic 01-03-2010 10:37 AM

So is this just good timing with the Cowher returning to NFL thread?

cdcox 01-03-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6400309)
And we won't have to worry about him getting another HC opportunity...

You mean other than for the Chiefs in 2011?

the Talking Can 01-03-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Sources: Chiefs expected to hire Crennel
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By Adam Schefter
ESPN
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Romeo Crennel is expected to return to coaching with the Kansas City Chiefs next season as the team's defensive coordinator, according to to multiple league sources.

AFC West blog

Williamson ESPN.com's Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog.

• Blog network: NFL Nation

Kansas City wanted to hire the former Cleveland Browns head coach as its defensive coordinator last offseason, but his hip surgery made it too challenging for him to do the job right.

Now that Crennel is healed from his hip surgery and itching to return, he is likely to join Kansas City's coaching staff this offseason.

Clancy Pendergast is the current defensive coordinator for the Chiefs.

Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli worked with Crennel in New England, and Kansas City is looking for ways to upgrade its defense.

Hiring Crennel would be one of the first steps the Chiefs would take in their defensive makeover.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4792324

CHIEFS58 01-03-2010 10:39 AM

After the Leach incident, I will not believe anything from ESPN. They have started sliding so much. It feels like paparazzi covering sports.

chiefzilla1501 01-03-2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHIEFS58 (Post 6400332)
After the Leach incident, I will not believe anything from ESPN. They have started sliding so much. It feels like paparazzi covering sports.

Yeah, but it comes from Shefter. As much as people hate him, he's generally pretty reliable.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHIEFS58 (Post 6400332)
After the Leach incident, I will not believe anything from ESPN. They have started sliding so much. It feels like paparazzi covering sports.

I'm not sure I get this. Didn't everything ESPN reported about Leach turn out to be true?

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 10:43 AM

As long as Jack Harry doesn't say anything about Crennel, there's a chance that it WILL happen.

LaChapelle 01-03-2010 10:47 AM

Krumrie is getting jobbed

DumbHillbillies 01-03-2010 10:47 AM

Right after that ESPN reported that water is wet. I know shocking. Seriously, that is the only rational explanation for the pendergast hiring. Just an one year stopgap so crennel could get healthy.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 10:49 AM

Especially since last year they hired Pendergast but waited a couple of weeks before announcing that he was the defensive coordinator. It stands to reason that they were negotiating with Crennel during those two weeks.

RedThat 01-03-2010 10:49 AM

Okay this would be a good start for the Chiefs.

Hire a competent defensive co-ordinator, thats a baby step. But thats okay its what this team needs, baby steps.

bevischief 01-03-2010 10:50 AM

A start.

DumbHillbillies 01-03-2010 10:53 AM

No doubt, I wonder if pioli consulted crennel on the t jackson pick ?

HotRoute 01-03-2010 11:00 AM

wouldnt be going nuts with excitement, but i dont think he could do much worse than clancy has done this year. If anyone needs fired its him

Icon 01-03-2010 11:01 AM

Considering Pendergast was fired after Arizona went to the Super Bowl (how often does that happen?), how much Arizona's defense improved after Pendergast left, and how poorly KC's defense was this year, I can see why we would be looking for a new DC.

The question is how good is Romeo Crennel? The track record of all the former NE coordinators is too good right now. How many of these guys received credit for the success of HC Bill Bilicheck and Tom Brady?

No matter, I would rather have Romeo over Clancy. At least Romeo successfully coached a 3-4 defense. I wonder if this might help in Free Agency to sign a Vince Wilfork (assuming he doesn't re-sign with NE)?

Hammock Parties 01-03-2010 11:01 AM

I wonder if we could get our hands on Wimbley. Surely he wants out...

kstater 01-03-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400344)
I'm not sure I get this. Didn't everything ESPN reported about Leach turn out to be true?

If you mean inaccurate and overtly biased, yes everything turned out to be true.

Dante84 01-03-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icon (Post 6400398)
Considering Pendergast was fired after Arizona went to the Super Bowl (how often does that happen?), how much Arizona's defense improved after Pendergast left, and how poorly KC's defense was this year, I can see why we would be looking for a new DC.

The question is how good is Romeo Crennel? The track record of all the former NE coordinators is too good right now. How many of these guys received credit for the success of HC Bill Bilicheck and Tom Brady?

No matter, I would rather have Romeo over Clancy. At least Romeo successfully coached a 3-4 defense. I wonder if this might help in Free Agency to sign a Vince Wilfork (assuming he doesn't re-sign with NE)?

Post more.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icon (Post 6400398)
Considering Pendergast was fired after Arizona went to the Super Bowl (how often does that happen?), how much Arizona's defense improved after Pendergast left, and how poorly KC's defense was this year, I can see why we would be looking for a new DC.

The question is how good is Romeo Crennel? The track record of all the former NE coordinators is too good right now. How many of these guys received credit for the success of HC Bill Bilicheck and Tom Brady?

No matter, I would rather have Romeo over Clancy. At least Romeo successfully coached a 3-4 defense. I wonder if this might help in Free Agency to sign a Vince Wilfork (assuming he doesn't re-sign with NE)?

Their track record as head coaches isn't good. That doesn't mean they still can't be good assistant coaches.

KC Jones 01-03-2010 11:07 AM

So we will have 2 excellent coordinators and still no head coach?

teedubya 01-03-2010 11:08 AM

Okay gang, as you know, I have many friends at the upper level of Arrowhead... Romeo Crennel is searching for houses in Leawood. Just FYI. THE DEAL IS DONE!

Dante84 01-03-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 6400419)
Okay gang, as you know, I have many friends at the upper level of Arrowhead... Romeo Crennel is searching for houses in Leawood. Just FYI. THE DEAL IS DONE!

Can we get a KCI report?

KCUnited 01-03-2010 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6400428)
Can we get a KCI report?

Not sure about KCI, but I did see a rather large black man at Gates approx. 15 minutes ago. I believe that confirms THE DEAL IS DONE!

Quesadilla Joe 01-03-2010 11:17 AM

Belicheat runs the show on the defensive side of the ball for the Patriots.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6400402)
If you mean inaccurate and overtly biased, yes everything turned out to be true.

I can see where you're coming from regarding bias, as it does appear that ESPN is circling the wagons around Craig James. I saw the report last night where they showed several Leach statements and immediately followed them with rebuttals by the trainer and the team physician.

However, I'm not aware of anything they reported that was inaccurate. According to the trainer, Leach did instruct him to LOCK Adam James in a dark room and to make him as uncomfortable as possible.

I think Leach is a helluva football coach who didn't have enough sense to know when to pick his battles.

teedubya 01-03-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6400428)
Can we get a KCI report?

Yes... there is an airplane at KCI. This all but confirms it.

kstater 01-03-2010 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400442)
I can see where you're coming from regarding bias, as it does appear that ESPN is circling the wagons around Craig James. I saw the report last night where they showed several Leach statements and immediately followed them with rebuttals by the trainer and the team physician.

However, I'm not aware of anything they reported that was inaccurate. According to the trainer, Leach did instruct him to LOCK Adam Janes in a dark room and to make him as uncomfortable as possible.

I think Leach is a helluva football coach who didn't have enough sense to know when to pick his battles.

That and conveniently ignoring the fact that the trainers said that putting him in the shed was not detrimental to his condition. You know, the reason TTU used to fire him.

MikeMaslowski 01-03-2010 11:21 AM

Let's see what WPI has to say!

RINGLEADER 01-03-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6400308)
I wonder of he takes on the DC title, or the Chiefs do a Redskin/Saunders type thing where they give him a title like Associate HC-defense, while retaining Pendergast.

Crennel would be the defacto DC, but Haley doesn't humiliate his friend.

Please.

Pendergast has done more than enough to humiliate himself.

Haley doesn't strike me as the type who's going to give two-poops about hurting his friend's feelings.

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:23 AM

I called this a month ago

Shag 01-03-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400455)
I called this a month ago

Hooray for you. Many people have been calling this all season...

the Talking Can 01-03-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400455)
I called this a month ago

the rest of the world called it when pendergast was hired....

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6400449)
That and conveniently ignoring the fact that the trainers said that putting him in the shed was not detrimental to his condition. You know, the reason TTU used to fire him.

Nobody thinks that putting Adam James in a shed was going to cause him to go into a coma and die. There's just a lot of visibility these days regarding comas, and it was stupid of Mike Leach to punish a player for having a coma.

Now maybe Leach wasn't punishing him for having a coma. Maybe he was punishing him because Craig was a prima donna and Leach had had enough of his shit. But it was pretty stupid to create the impression that he WAS punishing him for having a coma, since the team physician diagnosed it. And it was even more stupid to dig in his heals and refuse to try to defuse the situation. He had to know that the Texas Tech administration might jump at the chance to fire him, since they openly talked about firing him last year during their heated contract negotiations.

The sad thing is that everone involved is now much worse off. Leach has lost millions of dollars, the Texas Tech football team probably won't win nearly as many games the next few years, and Craig James and his son look like a couple of assholes.

Mike Leach will eventually get another head coaching job, but he won't get back all of the money he lost.

There is sometimes a price to pay for arrogance, even if you're really good at what you do.

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 6400459)
Hooray for you. Many people have been calling this all season...

I'm better than you

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6400465)
the rest of the world called it when pendergast was hired....

Yes but its nothing more then the Hunts saving face. Lets call it for what it is.

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400467)
Nobody thinks that putting Adam James in a shed was going to cause him to go into a coma and die. There's just a lot of visibility these days regarding comas, and it was stupid of Mike Leach to punish a player for having a coma.

Now maybe Leach wasn't punishing him for having a coma. Maybe he was punishing him because Craig was a prima donna and Leach had had enough of his shit. But it was pretty stupid to create the impression that he WAS punishing him for having a coma, since the team physician diagnosed it. And it was even more stupid to dig in his heals and refuse to try to defuse the situation. He had to know that the Texas Tech administration might jump at the chance to fire him, since they openly talked about firing him last year during their heated contract negotiations.

The sad thing is that everone involved is now much worse off. Leach has lost millions of dollars, the Texas Tech football team probably won't win nearly as many games the next few years, and Craig James and his son look like a couple of assholes.

Mike Leach will eventually get another head coaching job, but he won't get back all of the money he lost.

There is sometimes a price to pay for arrogance, even if you're really good at what you do.


What?

Pablo 01-03-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6400449)
That and conveniently ignoring the fact that the trainers said that putting him in the shed was not detrimental to his condition. You know, the reason TTU used to fire him.

But the shed was only the size of a single car garage. How could anyone survive like 45 minutes in a 10x12 space. I'm surprised it didn't kill him.

milkman 01-03-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 6400452)
Please.

Pendergast has done more than enough to humiliate himself.

Haley doesn't strike me as the type who's going to give two-poops about hurting his friend's feelings.

Maybe.

However, I think this writing was on the wall the moment that Pendergast took the job as DC, and it's very possible this scenario was in place from the start.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400472)
What?

Which statement do you disagree with?

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400477)
Which statement do you disagree with?

That part about Mike Leach in a thread about Romeo Crennel.

scorpio 01-03-2010 11:36 AM

Jay Glazer just said the Chiefs are going after Weiss also

KChiefs1 01-03-2010 11:37 AM

Jay Glazer said it's highly likely that both Romeo Crennel & Charlie Weis will be coaching in KC next season.

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:38 AM

John Clayton said its likely we go after every New England free agent

milkman 01-03-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio (Post 6400484)
Jay Glazer just said the Chiefs are going after Weiss also

Can we just change the name of the stadium to Gillette West?

Easy 6 01-03-2010 11:38 AM

Best news since LJ was shipped off.

kstater 01-03-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400467)
Nobody thinks that putting Adam James in a shed was going to cause him to go into a coma and die. There's just a lot of visibility these days regarding comas, and it was stupid of Mike Leach to punish a player for having a coma.

Now maybe Leach wasn't punishing him for having a coma. Maybe he was punishing him because Craig was a prima donna and Leach had had enough of his shit. But it was pretty stupid to create the impression that he WAS punishing him for having a coma, since the team physician diagnosed it. And it was even more stupid to dig in his heals and refuse to try to defuse the situation. He had to know that the Texas Tech administration might jump at the chance to fire him, since they openly talked about firing him last year during their heated contract negotiations.

The sad thing is that everone involved is now much worse off. Leach has lost millions of dollars, the Texas Tech football team probably won't win nearly as many games the next few years, and Craig James and his son look like a couple of assholes.

Mike Leach will eventually get another head coaching job, but he won't get back all of the money he lost.

There is sometimes a price to pay for arrogance, even if you're really good at what you do.

Reading the trainer's affidavit, it appears that he was punished for showing up to practice in street clothes and wandering around instead of showing up to practice dressed and staying in the injured players area like other injured players.

Agent V 01-03-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6400491)
Can we just change the name of the stadium to Gillette West?

Then, someday when the Raiders play here in a snow storm, we can royally **** them right out of the playoffs!

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:41 AM

It will be funny seeing Haley with 2 former head coaches. For sure the golfer will throw a tantrum.

milkman 01-03-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 6400500)
Then, someday when the Raiders play here in a snow storm, we can royally **** them right out of the playoffs!

Yeah, like either team will be sniffing the playoffs anytime soon.

the Talking Can 01-03-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400471)
Yes but its nothing more then the Hunts saving face. Lets call it for what it is.

crennel would have already been our dc if he hadn't had hip surgery last year...


pendergast was a spare tire....

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400478)
That part about Mike Leach in a thread about Romeo Crennel.

OK, valid point.

Titty Meat 01-03-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6400508)
crennel would have already been our dc if he hadn't had hip surgery last year...


pendergast was a spare tire....

Do you have proof of that besides it just being a rumor? Thats pretty ****ing stupid of Pioli to just hire a guy for 1 year. I would have rather hired a younger guy like Boles and been done with it.

Old Dog 01-03-2010 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400477)
Which statement do you disagree with?

Or possibly that it was a concussion, not a coma there doctor.

I reiterate what I said once before:
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...lolbuilder.jpg

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6400495)
Reading the trainer's affidavit, it appears that he was punished for showing up to practice in street clothes and wandering around instead of showing up to practice dressed and staying in the injured players area like other injured players.

I think you're right.

Mike Leach would have been better off if he had said that up front, instead of trying to make it sound like he was 100% concerned for Adam James's welfare and he put him in a place where the sunlight wouldn't bother him strictly out of concern for the player. That sounded like 100% bullshit when he said it.

doomy3 01-03-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400520)
Do you have proof of that besides it just being a rumor? Thats pretty ****ing stupid of Pioli to just hire a guy for 1 year. I would have rather hired a younger guy like Boles and been done with it.

It's not that stupid. If he had in mind that Crennel would be the DC after this year, I am not surprised at all that he would hire a guy who he is so familiar with in Pendergast as a stopgap, since he had coached with him in Arizona.

-King- 01-03-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6400491)
Can we just change the name of the stadium to Gillette West?

Kent Babb is tweeting that Robert Kraft is in talks with Hunt about buying the team.

Royal Fanatic 01-03-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 6400521)
Or possibly that it was a concussion, not a coma there doctor.

I reiterate what I said once before:
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...lolbuilder.jpg

Dang. I was loading up a smart ass response and then I saw that I did use coma a couple of times when I meant concussion. Maybe I should get a proofreader.

-King- 01-03-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6400527)
It's not that stupid. If he had in mind that Crennel would be the DC after this year, I am not surprised at all that he would hire a guy who he is so familiar with in Pendergast as a stopgap, since he had coached with him in Arizona.

Yup, especially seeing as how late the Assistant coaches were hired, Pioli was likely like, oh well **** this year, and just hired Pendergast.

the Talking Can 01-03-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6400520)
Do you have proof of that besides it just being a rumor? Thats pretty ****ing stupid of Pioli to just hire a guy for 1 year. I would have rather hired a younger guy like Boles and been done with it.

they hired pendergast and didn't name him to a position

they were waiting on crennel to make up his mind, he decided to have hip surgery and pendergast was named dc....

i thought this was common knowledge at the time

and, now, voila, crennel is healthy and rumored to be our new dc...

Easy 6 01-03-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6400527)
It's not that stupid. If he had in mind that Crennel would be the DC after this year, I am not surprised at all that he would hire a guy who he is so familiar with in Pendergast as a stopgap, since he had coached with him in Arizona.

This.

-King- 01-03-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6400540)
they hired pendergast and didn't name him to a position

they were waiting on crennel to make up his mind, he decided to have hip surgery and pendergast was named dc....

i thought this was common knowledge at the time

and, now, voila, crennel is healthy and rumored to be our new dc...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...dette/clap.gif

wild1 01-03-2010 11:53 AM

What is the exact quote? Was it "Crennel is likely to join Chiefs" or was it just some naked speculation that they think makes sense just because Pioli is here?

Old Dog 01-03-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 6400532)
Dang. I was loading up a smart ass response and then I saw that I did use coma a couple of times when I meant concussion. Maybe I should get a proofreader.

LMAO I had to re-read it before I posted just to be sure....but if he had locked him in there with a coma then my .02 changes by a whole lot and firing him wou'dn't have been a harsh enough punishment.
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