Hey hamas
 

Is Tony Romo still the worst QB in the NFL?

LMAO

Well since no one else will say it...

I freaking OWNED the "football geniouses" (and quotes are necessary) this year...

One word you might want to spell right in the future is "geniuses" if you want to win the championship.

Just curious, but what started you guys' back and forth love fests between you and the usual suspects?

this didn't deserve its own thread

Hootie's a douche, but he spelled "geniouses" right in chiefsplanetese.

As to the topic, until Romo finally didn't shit the bed in December and later for the first time in his career.

It's going to be funny next week watching the battle between Favre and Romo on who will throw the season ending INT.

Hamas has been getting his ass handed to him the last few days..........

Damn n00bs.

You might want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...hlight=lexicon

My money is on Favre.

Mine too........

Running the score up against the Giants, who look like they quit weeks before, doesn't mean anything to me. He was still shitting the bed as usual the last few weeks of the season.

Likewise

CoMo thought it did...
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Douche's like Hootie believe every useless thought they have requires a new thread.

This..

Hes only been starting for 3 1/2 years but people put this huge mound of expectation on him. Guess that goes with the territory when you play for the Cowboys.

P.S.

It's going to be a Cowboys Vs. Cardinals/Packers NFC Championship game.

Vikings and Saints are both 1 and done.

Personally, I think my opinion has been fairly consistent on Romo.

From the "Clean Slate with draftorbators" thread:

And ftr, "draftorbators" is still the worst made up word ever.

Sadly, I agree with your dumb ass.

I think the Pack advance to the SB.

Oh, and for the record I picked the Pack in the preseason to be the NFC representative in the SB.

If the Packers win today, I think they win the NFC...if the Cardinals win today, I think they beat the Saints, but then lose to the Cowboys in the NFC Championship game...

The AFC is between the Chargers and Colts, no doubt.

I wish I was smart enough to bet the Packers 25:1 for the Super Bowl when I started talking about it...they've dropped to 14:1 in less than 5 days.

The Cardinals opened at -3 and are now +2 today...

Means the public is heavy on the Pack and Vegas thinks the Cards will win but is scared that they won't...

Which means the Packers are going to win like 34-21.

As soon as I got him on my fantasy team Romo started playing great. It was me I tells ya! I did it! Me!!!!!
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but man it worries me because of how well the Cardinals played in the postseason last year...Fitzgerald put on the best postseason clinic I've ever witnessed...he was a machine...

It won't be the pack.

Yeah, I agree. Romo is playing amazing right now. Got to give him credit where credit is due. He doesn't hold fg's though anymore, does he?

Care to share your reasons for that.

I do think it's funny Romo is categorized as a choker partly because of botching a FG snap...

Yeah I'm sure he was really pissing his pants to get that ball down...

For all the things an NFL QB can be categorized as a choker for...people choose to reference that botched snap...

Because more than likely they'd end up having to win 3 road games. Pittsburgh did it a few years ago but I think that was the first time ever.

And they are very Jeckyll and Hyde. I don't see them having enough consistently.

Dallas won't make it either. It will actually end up coming down to New Orleans or Minny IMO.

****ing n00b

Way to go out on a limb.

By the way, I would bet that most QB's numbers fall off in the last two months of the season.

The road games are a problem, however, this is a team that has gotten hot at the right time, is playing defense as well as any in the league, and has a young ascending QB.

I don't think homefield advantage over the last 4-5 years is an much as an adavantage as it was in the past, when defenses weren't quite as handcuffed as they are now.

QBs with SB aspirations don't fall off in the last quarter of the season.

they'll have to win 3 road games...

all in a dome.

Vegas isn't scared of shit. It means they're trying to keep the betting at 50-50.

I thought he pretty much looked like crap, and yes he still holds for FGs, they even mentioned that he was the first starting QB to do so in the playoffs since his infamous flub.

Oh hey. What's up n00b?

You know, he didn't play great, but he did make a couple of big plays and avoided the huge mistake, which is a good start and confidence builder for him going forward in the playoffs.

The NFL would masturbate furiously at a Packers-Vikings playoff game so they can milk that Favre-Green Bay shit just a little more.
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Hootie should be set on fire.

I didn't see much from them different from when they played the Chiefs, except; 1) the WR pass in the flat was working mad yo [I'm talking like a Bronco's bootleg in Arrowhead good], and 2) the bounces [ie, TOs] were falling their favor.

I would love to know who Hootie thinks he "owned" other than Hamas and Mecca.

Because he's implying there's a long list of people.

You know usually the people who are wrong alot have to brag when they're finally right.

I am now officially rooting for the Jets to beat the Colts. I would laugh and laugh and laugh. I would even stomach all the Sanchez fellatio just to hear them try to explain away Manning losing again.
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I hate Romo and the Cowboys, but in fairness he has been pretty damn good this season. He looks like a different player out there.

He's kind of having an Eli Manning-like run.

Eli was a ****ing trainwreck for 3.5 seasons, then woke the **** up.

Romo may be doing the same, though I think Hootie's full-on reeruned thinking Romo's going to be a HOF'er.

It might not be, but the Pack isn't winning 3 road games.

This.

Vegas juices the teams with huge followings (more bets) to draw them in and then balance it out by moving the line.

After your rant about Indy pulling their starters a few weeks ago, I figured you would know this Hootie.

Right now I'd say, and I discussed this with MTG (I believe), that Romo's improvement is due to the fact that he isn't making what MTG referred to as "No look passes".

He's been Favre-like in the past where he tries to make plays by trying to fool defenses by not turning and looking directly at the receiver he's throwing to.

By actually turning at looking at the receiver, he's cut down on the mistakes.

I never said he was the worst QB in the NFL. I said he was one of the worst.

I said he was flat out taint.

I was most likely too harsh in my assessment, but I still think he's a mediocre QB and it's only a matter of time before he melts down and isn't bailed out by defender drops (2 picks yesterday) or officials overturning calls (another pick yesterday).

:spock:

You might want to check that thread that you left with your tail between your legs yesterday.

Jesus, talk about a legend in your own mind.

Wrong about everything from the gap schemes that Dallas runs to getting caught about lying about having IPs in multiple states.

I let my hatred of Romo color my opinion a little... BUT I still put him outside the top 15 QBs in the league for sure.

Romo is a game manager who thinks he's a franchise QB.

But he's going to the HOF! /Hootie.

Wow what ****ing planet are you on dipshit?

You're the ****ing moron that quoted some interenet ****tard to try and back his incredibly ****ed up opinion. And lost.

Multiple state IP's? If that's what OnTheRag told you he's lying. If you ever want to find out I can tell you where to find me pussy.

GoChiefs would appreciate the tip.

I'm sure that's what you meant.

ROFL

Ladies and Gents, he's gone full Hymen.

Let the games commence.

And again, the irony of you bitching about me using Scott Wright of NFLDC while you (before I even mentioned Wright, FWIW) used an AP writer...

Well, there's comedy, there's transcendent comedy, and then there is your last post.

I didn't use an AP writer, I quoted a coach. Something you keep ignoring.

When's the next meltdown coming tampax? Apparently, as someone told me, that wasn't your first. heh. You really are a bitch.

i have no side in this but 4500 yards 26 tds and 9 ints(iirc) this year is now game manager status? come on guys, argue the posts not the poster
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Actually, you used Doug Tucker, from the AP, and he quoted Herm Edwards who said that Dorsey occasionally two-gapped in college (never claimed he didn't, FWIW).

What I then did was bring up multiple scouting reports which stated that Dorsey's best fit would be as a 3 Technique in a 4-3.

You then began equivocating, saying that you felt that Dorsey would fit best in a 1.5 gap scheme (which no one actually runs) instead of a 2 gap (which you claimed would be his best fit all season).

It's not my fault you're a duplicitous scumbag.

I'm not. Tony Romo is not a franchise QB.

Jesus, he has more tools to work with than Matt Cassel did last year. 3 damned good RBs and one of the two or three best TEs in the game along with a legit #1.

Tony Romo is Matt Cassel, and I wouldn't want either one leading my team.

almost 4500 yards and an almost 3-1 int ratio. what else do you want?
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ROFL

That was opinions based on comparing him to Warren Sapp, which he's not, and anyone who really watched him would know that. So all you've done is just repeat shit that other people say instead of knowing what you are watching.

THE FACT is Dorsey never did that in college. And he didn't "occasionally 2 gap" in college you complete ****ing idiot it was the main thing he did. This is why you're a god damned moron.

More of your ****ing football ignorance. A gap and a half scheme is run in various defenses by everyone in certain fronts. The Giants ran a gap and a half scheme (2 gap by some players, 1 by others) in their 40 front for several years. But you are really just a ****ing parrot and everyone knows that.

Wow Hamas, you could start your own CP Fight Club if you wanted to.

Numbers for QBs in today's NFL are misleading.

Trent Green had multiple 4000 yard seasons, but he was never more than a game manager.

I'd have to look up the numbers, but I don't believe that Montana ever had a 4000 yard season, and he was the absolute epidome of franchise QB.

He'd have a meltdown before he would show up.

It's funny, cause we're talking about 3-4 defenses.

3-4 defenses are either Fairbanks (2 Gap) or Phillips based on the DL (1 Gap).

Now, you're backsliding again.

From the thread yesterday:


Of course, we'll also ignore you just conjuring things out of the ether, like claiming that the Phillips defense is a 1.5 gap scheme. It's not. It's a one-gap scheme.

I know you think that your football knowledge would overflow the Grand Canyon, but it wouldn't fill a thimble.

The Guardian just changes his opinions with the wind, and then claims that he's right.

He's like a gambling advisor who tells half the callers to pick one team and the other half to pick the other, then claims his 100% success rate.

ok so before this season palmer, iyo, was. why?
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I want to come back to this one because it's so ****ing rich.

This is from Dorsey's own mouth........

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/04...n_dorsey__426/

You know what that "a little freedom" means dumbass? Yeah, they weren't shooting gaps, and getting up the field at people.

You said Herm said Dorsey "occasionally" played two gap. That's not what he said. He said...........


Maybe you need to learn the difference between "occasionally" and "a lot". Like I own your ass on this subject A LOT. Actually, all the ****ing time. Mainly because you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about and then resort to using movie quotes as smack talk when you get a foot broke off in your ass.

A "little freedom," or "very little freedom?"

I know, details.

Wait, so now you're getting on me for "occasionally" two gapping (when again, I never said he didn't) and a lot, and yet in the very same post in which you chide me for that, you equate "a little freedom" to "very little freedom"??

You might want to get the multiple voices in yoru head checked out, because I never claimed Dorsey didn't two gap in college, even though you seem by god damned and determined to prove that I did.

Here's a question for you, though:

Sergio Kindle played DE his last year at Texas. Does he profile best as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB?

Eric Crouch played QB at Nebraska, yet was...gasp, drafted as a safety.

James Harrison played DE in college yet became DPOY at an OLB.

Now, why might that be important to projecting someone for the next level?

Because it's obvious now that the projections are off/wrong. And you seem to have trouble understanding this.

Guardian: Just because Dorseys main job at LSU wasn't 1 gaping, doesn't mean that isn't what he was drafted for in the Pros. It was. Dorsey was drafted so high because even though his main responsibility in college wasn't to shoot gaps, it was what he was dominant at.

What Dorsey did at LSU while being injured and as you said, mostly 2 gaping, is simply amazing and hard to think that anyone would think that his best NFL position would be a 3-tec or 1 gap nose. I still think a 1 gap nose is where he could be a legitimate NFL DMVP, but I doubt he is ever in the position to do so.

A shame.

You're wasting your time.

:spock:

It seemed to me like projections for guys like Hines Ward or Antwan Randle-El were completely ****ing accurate.

Or Dante Hall.
Or Ziggy Hood.
Or Josh Cribbs


I could literally do this all day.

So could I. Dorsey being projected as a 1 ga/3-technique guy were so far off it's ****ing stupid. He has a terrible time transitioning from his first to second pass rush move and isn't a natural pass rusher. Something great 3-technique guys will show even as rookies. so like i said, those projects were off/stupid.

Is 1 and 2 gaping anything like ass gaping?

Like Warren Sapp, who had fewer tackles and the same # of sacks as a rookie as Dorsey did, despite being used as a penetrator?

Palmer, before his knee got blown up by the Steelers was on his way to becoming a top 5 QB in the NFL, making big time plays, big time throws, and clutch plays.

He had all the tools.

Good arm strength, great pocket presense, accuracy and leadership.

He was looking a lot like Troy Aikman.