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philfree 01-25-2010 12:19 AM

Senior Bowl Week
 
http://www.seniorbowl.com/

There is definately some players for us to watch this week. The DE/OLB tweeners and the NTs. Taylor Mays will get a chance to show he can cover and make plays. Iupati an Ducasse...ect.


PhilFree:arrow:

Wilson8 01-25-2010 03:58 AM

I'm waiting to see the full rosters. Right now on the Senior Bowl site they only have 67 players so I assume they will add several more.

NT Dan Williams Tennessee, Daryl ILB Washington TCU, RB Stafon Johnson USC, G Mike Johnson Alabama, NT Terrence Cody Alabama, S Nate Allen South Florida, and WR Danario Alexander Missouri are just some of the players I'm wanting to watch.

Titty Meat 01-25-2010 08:54 AM

All the talk about Ronaldo McClain i'm watching my boy Phillip Dillard who is very underrated.

philfree 01-25-2010 09:19 AM

Hughes, Norwood and Graham area ll on my radar for the Chiefs in the 2nd round so it will be interesting how they compare during the week.

PhilFree:arrow:

TRR 01-25-2010 10:09 AM

Who are the true NT in the draft? Cody is most likely a candidate to switch to NT in a 3-4, but who else could KC draft?

The problem would be solved if Pioli could find a way to pull Wilfork, but I think the Pats will franchise him.
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BossChief 01-25-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6477106)
Who are the true NT in the draft? Cody is most likely a candidate to switch to NT in a 3-4, but who else could KC draft?

The problem would be solved if Pioli could find a way to pull Wilfork, but I think the Pats will franchise him.
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Cody played in a 3-4...so did McClain, thats why they will likely be targets for us early in the draft. Saban is also a "tree" guy. Add those two to our front seven and we could have a much improved run defense.

Even if they franchised him, they could very well trade him because they drafted Ron Brace last year in the second round and could very well like him enough to extract the value from Wilfork and keep the position "cheap"

Wilson8 01-25-2010 12:42 PM

NFL Network will televise practice for Senior Bowl beginning today at 2:30 PM CST. They have a recap at 7:00 PM CST and then again at 3:30 AM CST that will hit the highlights. This continues throughout the week.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 12:50 PM

If you are setting up your DVR to record, be careful you don't get the Pro Bowl practices instead. The guide says something about Bowl Practice so it would be easy to record those instead.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 01:12 PM

Rosters now...

http://www.seniorbowl.com/southroster.asp

http://www.seniorbowl.com/northroster.asp

Quesadilla Joe 01-25-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 6477521)
NFL Network will televise practice for Senior Bowl beginning today at 2:30 PM CST. They have a recap at 7:00 PM CST and then again at 3:30 AM CST that will hit the highlights. This continues throughout the week.

It is on right now

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BryanBusby 01-25-2010 04:18 PM

Look at dem titties

http://i50.tinypic.com/9qhbw9.jpg

No way in hell Haley is going to want Mount Lardass

beer bacon 01-25-2010 04:23 PM

Wow Mt. Cody is clearly too fat for anyone to draft him in the first. Perhaps a 3-4 team could draft him in the second.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 04:33 PM

Impressions:

Florida quarterback Tim Tebow measured in at just under 6-3, but looked a bit leaner through his upper body at only 236 pounds. Tebow was listed on the Florida roster all season at 245 pounds, but he appears to be trying to lose some bulk through his chest and shoulders in order to increase flexibility.

If there’s one running back down here who looks the part it is Mississippi State’s Anthony Dixon. Dixon is a thick, well-built 245-pound back who possesses impressive bulk through his lower half and really seems to fill out his frame well.

Alabama nose tackle Terrence Cody tipped the scales at a whopping 370 pounds and looked every bit of it. Now, there is no denying the guy is tough to move inside, but there’s a lot of sloppy additional weight on his frame and he looks like a guy who could really be more effective playing in the 330-340 range.

On the other hand, Tennessee defensive tackle Dan Williams carries his 329 pounds very well and possesses one of the thickest bases I have ever seen. The guy has a massive bubble, really powerful-looking thighs and looks built to sit into his stance and overwhelm inside.

The winner of the 2010 Senior Bowl beauty contest was surprisingly Florida State safety Myron Rolle, who showcased by far the most chiseled body of the day. Rolle weighed in at a rocked-up 217 pounds, standing just over 6-1 and looks fully committed to making a big impression this week at the Senior Bowl.

However, the overall winner of the weigh-in was Idaho offensive lineman Mike Iupati, who measured in at 6-5 and carried his 325-pound frame extremely well. But, what was even more impressive were his 35-inch arms and 10 3/8 inch hands. Iupati made the biggest impression on me out of anyone down here today and I have a feeling he’s going to be one of the biggest winners down here this week.

Oregon running back LeGarrette Blount appeared to be in very good shape, even at 245 pounds.

Cincinnati wide receiver Mardy Gilyard looked frail and undersized weighing in at only 179 pounds.

Another guy who seems to be on the verge of a really big week is Massachusetts offensive lineman Vladimir Ducasse. The guy definitely looked the part today at 6-4 5/8 and 326 pounds.

Finally, at nearly 6-8 and only 305 pounds, is it any wonder why Notre Dame offensive tackle Sam Young struggles to anchor on contact? He looked really thin through the lower half and has a frame that lacks bulk throughout.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...-analysis.html

OnTheWarpath15 01-25-2010 04:35 PM

They were pimping Ducasse quite a bit on Sirius about an hour ago.

For the Mizzou crowd, Kirwan had some great things to say about Sean Witherspoon as well.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 04:54 PM

Terrence Cody is BIG, 6'4" 370 lbs, but also 34 in arms and 11 1/4 hands.

Titty Meat 01-25-2010 05:06 PM

34 inch arms and weights twice as much as Asante whos arms are 31 inches.

philfree 01-25-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6478030)
Wow Mt. Cody is clearly too fat for anyone to draft him in the first. Perhaps a 3-4 team could draft him in the second.

No earlier then our 4th if at all. To bad Dan Williams won't last till the 2nd round.


PhilFree:arrow:

raybec 4 01-25-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 6478119)
Terrence Cody is BIG, 6'4" 370 lbs, but also 34 in arms and 11 1/4 hands.

Gilbert Brown part II - you could do worse at NT (like Ron Edwards).

talastan 01-25-2010 05:17 PM

I really don't want any part of Cody, unless he falls to our third IMO. Although Haley would have his next weight loss victim to dominate this offseason if we did draft him.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 6478185)
Gilbert Brown part II - you could do worse at NT (like Ron Edwards).

I think Ron needs someone to split time with at the NT position. He plays more snaps than many NTs and wears down. You can watch him on some plays and he does not look bad and other snaps there is just nothing there. I'd like the Chiefs to find a FA or lower round draft pick to help with that position.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 05:56 PM

Links to weigh in stats -

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Quarterbacks http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinQB.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Running Backs http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinRB.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Wide Receivers http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinWR.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Tight Ends http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinTE.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Offensive Linemen http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinOL.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Defensive Ends http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinDE.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Defensive Tackles http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinDT.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Linebackers http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinLB.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Cornerbacks http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinCB.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Safeties http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinS.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Special Teams http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinST.php

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2010 05:58 PM

Iupati looked amazing in the bowl game. At the very least, he's the best RT in this draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2010 06:00 PM

I must be taller than I thought, because I met Weatherspoon at a bar and would have sworn he's no more than 5'10-5"11.

Almost 6'1.

RustShack 01-25-2010 06:02 PM

Why isn't Okung in it?

Wilson8 01-25-2010 06:03 PM

Thought this was an interesting comment...

Taylor Mays USC Ht 6030 Wt 231 Arms 33 3/4 hands 10 1/8 Built like Greek god

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2010 06:03 PM

Danario measured 6' 4 1/2", 221 with 33 3/8" arms and 9 5/8" hands.

Makes you drool for the possibilities of him as a RZ target. I still think he could have Colston-type upside.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 06:06 PM

Myron Rolle Florida St. 6014 217 33 9 1/4 Outstanding torso and upper body - action figure

Must have been pumping some iron over at Oxford.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 6478300)
pumping some iron over at Oxford.

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BryanBusby 01-25-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6478288)
Why isn't Okung in it?

Why would he? I don't see anyone challenging him for that top OT slot, as of now at least.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6478288)
Why isn't Okung in it?

The players that think they are in the top end of the draft usually do not play. They figure it would only hurt them and there is the injury risk.

RustShack 01-25-2010 06:18 PM

I think Okung knows hes going to look like shit in a Pro Style offense just like all the spread linemen did in the shrine.

Wilson8 01-25-2010 06:20 PM

I'd like the juniors to also be given a chance in the Shrine Bowl but most of the ones that you would want to see would not take the risk and play. Not sure if the NFL and NCAA has some type of gentlemens agreement on that to keep them out of exhibition games.

BossChief 01-25-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 6478021)
Look at dem titties

http://i50.tinypic.com/9qhbw9.jpg

No way in hell Haley is going to want Mount Lardass

Reminds me of "the Fridge". The weight doesn't bother me at his position one bit.

Icon 01-25-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 6478021)
Look at dem titties

http://i50.tinypic.com/9qhbw9.jpg

No way in hell Haley is going to want Mount Lardass


If he's 370 lbs. at his first official job interview what's his weight going to be after he get's his first contract. He'll probably have Dunkin Donuts #1 on his speed dial. :D

Coogs 01-25-2010 07:31 PM

Senior Bowl practice starting right now (7:30 central) on NFLN.

The Bad Guy 01-25-2010 07:45 PM

Apparently Mays took a cheapshot at a small receiver on a return. Scouts and front office types weren't too happy.

Saccopoo 01-25-2010 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6478522)
Apparently Mays took a cheapshot at a small receiver on a return. Scouts and front office types weren't too happy.

He is going to make a fine ILB.

Or be a great stunt double for the Rodney Harrison Story - the Movie.

Coogs 01-25-2010 07:59 PM

Sounds like the LB from Wisconsin suffered a knee injury...

http://www.waow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11878876

UW's Schofield reportedly suffers serious leg injury during Senior Bowl practice on Monday
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 7:09 PM CST
By Russ Owens

(WAOW)- According to sources on the ground in Mobile, AL, Wisconsin linebacker O'Brien Schofield suffered a serious leg injury during a drill on Monday during practice for this coming Saturday's Under Armour Senior Bowl.

Schofield landed awkwardly on his left leg and had to be helped off the field. Sources close to practice say the injury appeared to be very serious.

Many NFL draft scouts projected Schofield to be a third or fourth round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft.

Courtesy: National Football Post

RustShack 01-25-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6478538)
He is going to make a fine ILB.

Or be a great stunt double for the Rodney Harrison Story - the Movie.

STFU

Willie Lanier 01-25-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 6478279)
Links to weigh in stats -

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Quarterbacks http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinQB.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Running Backs http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinRB.php

2010 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Wide Receivers http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2010weighinWR.php

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Well, I'm certainly glad the public knows Maguire's swimsuit sexiness analysis on this crop of players... Not a intentional jab at you personally but honestly, who cares?!? Can the kid play football, and does he have the right demeanor? I could care less if he looks like Grunhard on a bad day, if he can play, sign him up. That's all that matters.

Mecca 01-25-2010 08:27 PM

Taylor Mays does not remotely have LB skills, you need to get over that one real fast.

And Cody plays a position that entails being fat, it amuses me to see him get called for well being fat.

Ebolapox 01-25-2010 09:10 PM

yeah, I don't care how fat cody is. hell, gilbert brown and keith traylor made a living out of being fatasses.

BryanBusby 01-25-2010 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6478548)
Sounds like the LB from Wisconsin suffered a knee injury...

http://www.waow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11878876

UW's Schofield reportedly suffers serious leg injury during Senior Bowl practice on Monday
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 7:09 PM CST
By Russ Owens

(WAOW)- According to sources on the ground in Mobile, AL, Wisconsin linebacker O'Brien Schofield suffered a serious leg injury during a drill on Monday during practice for this coming Saturday's Under Armour Senior Bowl.

Schofield landed awkwardly on his left leg and had to be helped off the field. Sources close to practice say the injury appeared to be very serious.

Many NFL draft scouts projected Schofield to be a third or fourth round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft.

Courtesy: National Football Post

Word is ACL tear in left knee

RustShack 01-25-2010 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 6478882)
yeah, I don't care how fat cody is. hell, gilbert brown and keith traylor made a living out of being fatasses.

They could also stay on the field more than two plays.

Mecca 01-25-2010 10:06 PM

Be careful in the offseason if you're from UW, remember Ikegweonu blew out his knee working out for the draft...

BryanBusby 01-25-2010 10:22 PM

Didn't they also have a tight end that came out not long ago that blew the **** out of his knee during their senior season?

Mecca 01-26-2010 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6478522)
Apparently Mays took a cheapshot at a small receiver on a return. Scouts and front office types weren't too happy.

I don't know where you got this from but every report I read called this a "nice play that broke up a completion"

|Zach| 01-26-2010 02:57 AM

Quote:

Mays makes big mistake

The South practiced in helmets, shoulder pads and shorts.

Southern California safety Taylor Mays drew the ire of one general manager and a team's top pro personnel man when he leveled wide receiver Andre Roberts (The Citadel) on a deep route. Mays was covering over the top to help the cornerback on the play.

In that drill, the NFL types just want to see Mays make a play on the ball. They can see how he hits on film or when everybody is in full pads.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-fa...s_sports_82014

Mecca 01-26-2010 03:03 AM

Well that's nice, that's Mays game. But that's the only place I've seen that in all the draft places i read info.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 03:33 AM

The Taylor Mays story is going to be fun to watch through this week and the combine. At least for today, he and Cody probably got the most press. Mays being on the positive side and Cody the negative kind. If Taylor can look decent on pass coverage this week, he is making himself millions of dollars as his stock rises.

Mecca 01-26-2010 03:39 AM

Mays will be a major offseason riser, he's his listed size so if all the stories of him running a 4.3 come true, that's all it will take.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 6479154)
Didn't they also have a tight end that came out not long ago that blew the **** out of his knee during their senior season?

Travis Beckhum is who you are probably thinking of. He thought about coming out as a junior in the 2008 draft but stayed one more year at Wisconsin and ended up with hamstring injuries for his first few games and then later breaking his fibula.

The NY Giants drafted him in the 3rd round based on what he did during his junior year.

Mecca 01-26-2010 04:07 AM

So is everyone going to freak out when the Chiefs take McClain and Cody with their first 2 picks?

I've been saying for awhile that Cody would likely fall, I won't put it past the Chiefs 1 bit to use a 2nd rounder on him with the idea that they can get him into better shape.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 04:22 AM

I'm sure others would object but I think it is very possible that KC would do that draft. They still have to get a good center that can start for them and a starting safety.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 04:27 AM

Not saying that is all they need but it would be a step in the right direction.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 04:43 AM

Romeo Crennel wanted 350 lb NT Shawn Rogers bad enough to trade for him. I could see Romeo wanting Terrence Cody to stand in the middle of his defense and take up blockers. Rolando McClain would also help anchor the middle and help with our run defense.

I'm not saying this is the best or only answer to improve the team. I know they have to improve the defense with NT, ILB, and safety. Another combination might be Berry, Spikes, and Ross or Allen, Washington, and Troup or any combination of the above players.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2010 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6479459)
So is everyone going to freak out when the Chiefs take McClain and Cody with their first 2 picks?

I've been saying for awhile that Cody would likely fall, I won't put it past the Chiefs 1 bit to use a 2nd rounder on him with the idea that they can get him into better shape.

Remember the epsiode where AVGN said "****" from the bottom of his heart and then destroyed his basement like Godzilla?

Well...there you go.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2010 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 6479466)
Romeo Crennel wanted 350 lb NT Shawn Rogers bad enough to trade for him. I could see Romeo wanting Terrence Cody to stand in the middle of his defense and take up blockers. Rolando McClain would also help anchor the middle and help with our run defense.

I'm not saying this is the best or only answer to improve the team. I know they have to improve the defense with NT, ILB, and safety. Another combination might be Berry, Spikes, and Ross or Allen, Washington, and Troup or any combination of the above players.

To me, I think you could very easily have the first 5 draft picks:

1) Berry
2a. Sapp
2b Pouncey
3. Danario Alexander
4. Micah Johnson

And in round 5 you could go after Troop, Demarcus Granger, or even Cam Thomas for DT, all of whom, project well to 0 technique.

Mecca 01-26-2010 04:57 AM

If you use a 3 on Alexander when a guy like Damaryius Thomas is gonna go in the 2nd, that's horrible value, Thomas is a light years better prospect.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 05:00 AM

That would be great. I really enjoy this time of the year with all of the different draft possibilities. Kind of like the night before Christmas. Last year I got a lump of coal though.

Last year we needed to improve on those positions. Hopefully we will do that this year.

Wilson8 01-26-2010 05:07 AM

You are starting to convince me on Thomas. I wish juniors could play in some type of "draft bowl". I'd like to see him play outside the Georgia Tech offensive system.

Mecca 01-26-2010 05:11 AM

Just remember as of today Alexander is a very very fringe 3rd round prospect, that means the Chiefs shouldn't be considering him before 4 because of how high the picks are.

suds79 01-26-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6479459)
So is everyone going to freak out when the Chiefs take McClain and Cody with their first 2 picks?

I've been saying for awhile that Cody would likely fall, I won't put it past the Chiefs 1 bit to use a 2nd rounder on him with the idea that they can get him into better shape.

Nope not one bit. I'd be pretty pumped.

Our LB core is horrid and we haven't addressed that position in years.

And we have to come out of this draft with a NT.

I don't care that Cody is fat. That's what being a NT is all about. I'm just afraid Haley would ruin him by trying to get him to slim down too much. :p

Thankfully there's probably no way that man ever sees anything below 330 so that's fine with me.

It'd be nice to no longer see teams gutting us with the run right up the middle.

Ebolapox 01-26-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6479578)
Nope not one bit. I'd be pretty pumped.

Our LB core is horrid and we haven't addressed that position in years.

And we have to come out of this draft with a NT.

I don't care that Cody is fat. That's what being a NT is all about. I'm just afraid Haley would ruin him by trying to get him to slim down too much. :p

Thankfully there's probably no way that man ever sees anything below 330 so that's fine with me.

It'd be nice to no longer see teams gutting us with the run right up the middle.

absolutely. you get cody and mcclain (and hopefully another pass-rushing 'backer) and you've greatly improved the defense. ASSUMING that dajuan morgan steps up, you've got a stew cookin' baby!

kepp 01-26-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6478295)
Danario measured 6' 4 1/2", 221 with 33 3/8" arms and 9 5/8" hands.

Makes you drool for the possibilities of him as a RZ target. I still think he could have Colston-type upside.

I was interested to see his measurements because colleges usually inch-up players' height. But DA is as advertised.

DaKCMan AP 01-26-2010 08:49 AM

There are some very good RBs out of the SEC in this draft that are more of the power-back mold to complement Charles: Anthony Dixon, Montario Hardesty, Ben Tate.... even Charles Scott.

I'd rather have Dan Williams (Tennessee) than Terrance Cody.

BossChief 01-26-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6479459)
So is everyone going to freak out when the Chiefs take McClain and Cody with their first 2 picks?

I've been saying for awhile that Cody would likely fall, I won't put it past the Chiefs 1 bit to use a 2nd rounder on him with the idea that they can get him into better shape.

Id love for that to happen.

Our rush defense would be well on its way as that would give us a lot of the key run defenders from the recent championship teams to build around.

Pushead2 01-26-2010 09:11 AM

Cody will be the new Gilbert Brown...I'm in...

beer bacon 01-26-2010 09:59 AM

What type of routes did Thomas run at GT? It was mostly deep stuff right? Has he been at any camps or events where he has shown his route running ability?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6479477)
Just remember as of today Alexander is a very very fringe 3rd round prospect, that means the Chiefs shouldn't be considering him before 4 because of how high the picks are.

If he runs below a 4.55 in the combine with his body type, he's a 2nd-3rd round pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 6479674)
Cody will be the new Gilbert Brown...I'm in...

Why do people act like Gilbert Brown was some kind of great player? He was a two down guy who was injured for a large part of his career, and missed another year of his prime because his fat ass ate his way out of the league.

Just because John Madden's dipshit ass used to give an occasional lick to Brown's lollipop in the midst of a Favre deep throat session while calling a Packers game doesn't mean he was that good.

suds79 01-26-2010 10:21 AM

Sombody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but say we draft a NT.

Say Cody or Williams out of Tenn, I think we all agree we need a NT bad but yes any 330+ NT is going to be a two down guy.

Naturally on 3rd an longs they'll sub in other quicker guys to pass rush.

I mean don't the Pats with Wilfork or the Steelers with Hampton take those guys out on 3rd & passing situations? I'd have to watch more of their games to know for sure but I'm assuming they do.

So whatever NT we draft, if he's a two down guy, I'm fine with that. Just as long as he stuffs the run getting us to those 3rd and longs.

changing subject:

And I'm also a fan of Alexander. I've seen how San Diego runs their offense with big WRs and essentially deep jump balls and I'd like to see some of that in KC.

The Franchise 01-26-2010 10:24 AM

Give me Eric Berry in the 1st, Dan Williams/Brandon Spikes at 2a and a WR at 2b.....and I'll be ecstatic.

DaKCMan AP 01-26-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6479860)
Give me Eric Berry in the 1st, Dan Williams/Brandon Spikes at 2a and a WR at 2b.....and I'll be ecstatic.

I think you can even wait to take a WR until the 3rd, 4th or 5th round and get quality.

The Franchise 01-26-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6479865)
I think you can even wait to take a WR until the 3rd, 4th or 5th round and get quality.

This is true.

OnTheWarpath15 01-26-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6479865)
I think you can even wait to take a WR until the 3rd, 4th or 5th round and get quality.

Define quality.

I think there's a decent drop-off after Bryant, Williams, LaFell, Tate, Benn and Gilyard.

Not so much because of talent, but because of injury history with a lot of those guys.

DaKCMan AP 01-26-2010 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6479869)
This is true.

I like Golden Tate or if Brandon LaFell or Damian Williams dropped, but I also think you can get good value for interior OL at the 2b spot.

The Franchise 01-26-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6479880)
I like Golden Tate or if Brandon LaFell or Damian Williams dropped, but I also think you can get good value for interior OL at the 2b spot.

As a Notre Dame fan....I'd be ecstatic if we drafted Tate.....but I seriously doubt he drops to our second pick in round 2.

DaKCMan AP 01-26-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6479878)
Define quality.

I think there's a decent drop-off after Bryant, Williams, LaFell, Tate, Benn and Gilyard.

Bryant wont be available in round 2. Williams or LaFell probably wont be either, but as I stated in the earlier post I like them if they fell.

Benn and Gilyard are not worth drafting in round 2. Gilyard maybe late round 3, but I don't want Benn.

After round 3 I like Shipley, Ford, Blair White or later in the draft Briscoe, McGaha or Riley Cooper.

Dayze 01-26-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6479850)
Sombody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but say we draft a NT.

Say Cody or Williams out of Tenn, I think we all agree we need a NT bad but yes any 330+ NT is going to be a two down guy.

Naturally on 3rd an longs they'll sub in other quicker guys to pass rush.

I mean don't the Pats with Wilfork or the Steelers with Hampton take those guys out on 3rd & passing situations? I'd have to watch more of their games to know for sure but I'm assuming they do.

So whatever NT we draft, if he's a two down guy, I'm fine with that. Just as long as he stuffs the run getting us to those 3rd and longs.

changing subject:

And I'm also a fan of Alexander. I've seen how San Diego runs their offense with big WRs and essentially deep jump balls and I'd like to see some of that in KC.

I don't think they'll be expecting a pass rush from a NT. Occupy 1 or 2 blockers; maybe play a lot of 2 gap.
They need a massive body in the middle that won't be easily pushed off the line by a single OL.

The pass rush will come from blitz schemes / zone blitzes to confuse protections and QBs.

My $.02.


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