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Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 05:53 PM

Interesting Chiefs News
 
This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth.

If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years.

Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine.

So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel.

Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief.

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Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources.

Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle.

Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn.

KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time,

Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks.

Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.

Dante84 02-15-2010 05:59 PM

The PatsifiBrownsifiDolphinsifiIrishification may continue.

Bi_polar 02-15-2010 05:59 PM

This was one of BRC's private emails, right?

Tribal Warfare 02-15-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bi_polar (Post 6534477)
This was one of BRC's private emails, right?

Yes it is :shake:

Micjones 02-15-2010 06:00 PM

Surprised it took this long for someone to run back to the board with the information.
ROFL

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6534481)
Surprised it took this long for someone to run back to the board with the information.
ROFL

Its not from BRC.

Demonpenz 02-15-2010 06:03 PM

clausen situation presents pickle for chiefs

LaChapelle 02-15-2010 06:03 PM

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mikeyis4dcats. 02-15-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6534483)
Its not from BRC.

confirmed, it IS from BRC.

Saul Good 02-15-2010 06:05 PM

Also, if Suh is there in the 4th round, we're taking him.

Micjones 02-15-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6534483)
Its not from BRC.

:spock:

Saul Good 02-15-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534484)
clausen situation presents pickle for chiefs

We should hire Mark Vlassic to be his QB coach.

LaChapelle 02-15-2010 06:06 PM

I'd rather have Clausen at #5
than Quin with a 2

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:06 PM

If Weis thinks Clausen is the real deal, we should be taking him at 5, provided he's there.

Micjones 02-15-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534495)
If Weis thinks Clausen is the real deal, we should be taking him at 5, provided he's there.

That would be an early admission of failure with Cassel.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:08 PM

I'm not confirming where it came from. It doesn't matter. Take it or leave it.

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:08 PM

:hump:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6534490)
:spock:


kstater 02-15-2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534495)
If Weis thinks Clausen is the real deal, we should be taking him at 5, provided he's there.

If Haley and Pioli think that yea. But Weis isn't exactly impartial in his grading of Clausen.

Demonpenz 02-15-2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6534492)
We should hire Mark Vlassic to be his QB coach.

meh his ego has become too cucumbersom

L.A. Chieffan 02-15-2010 06:10 PM

Thanks BRC. You creating the email account has really unmuddled and cleared things up around here.

Micjones 02-15-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6534500)
I'm not confirming where it came from. It doesn't matter. Take it or leave it.

Soo...

Are the other emails also NOT coming from BRC?

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534504)
meh his ego has become too cucumbersom

Agreed. It would put us in quite a pickle.

Demonpenz 02-15-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6534509)
Agreed. It would put us in quite a pickle.

you can't use pickle again you ****ing idiot

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6534503)
If Haley and Pioli think that yea. But Weis isn't exactly impartial in his grading of Clausen.

Yeah, because Pioli was/is impartial in his grading of Cassel.

ForeverChiefs58 02-15-2010 06:11 PM

A friend of mine who is really big into the 49ers told me his team thinks Claussen reminds them of another good ND QB Montana and they could use their two firsts to get him.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6534508)
Soo...

Are the other emails also NOT coming from BRC?

There from my sources.

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534514)
you can't use pickle again you ****ing idiot

You are nothing but piss and vinegar today. :Scanlon:

LaChapelle 02-15-2010 06:13 PM

I got an email that said Chambers was a priority
I'll not say I read it on ESPN

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:13 PM

Thats saying alot when Weis whos a brilliant offensive mind isn't sold on Cassel. He's never gave Cassel a ringing endorsment in interviews either.

chiefzilla1501 02-15-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534515)
Yeah, because Pioli was/is impartial in his grading of Cassel.

2 Wrongs don't make a Right.

I'd rather Claussen than Quinn--I think Quinn is far too inaccurate to be a successful NFL QB. But either of these guys... coaches sometimes become too attached to players they once coached. If we get them, I agree, I'd like for a source other than Weis to be impressed with one of the two also.

Tribal Warfare 02-15-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6534500)
I'm not confirming where it came from. It doesn't matter. Take it or leave it.

Dude, this was ****ing stupid you shouldn't have created this thread with the BRC info. Thanks to this you may have ****ed up the private info that he was providing to all of us.

KcMizzou 02-15-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534514)
you can't use pickle again you ****ing idiot

LMAO

Demonpenz 02-15-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6534526)
You are nothing but piss and vinegar today. :Scanlon:

damnit BRINE AND VINAGAR MAKES PICKLES>

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6534532)
2 Wrongs don't make a Right.

I'd rather Claussen than Quinn--I think Quinn is far too inaccurate to be a successful NFL QB. But either of these guys... coaches sometimes become too attached to players they once coached. If we get them, I agree, I'd like for a source other than Weis to be impressed with one of the two also.

Who said Weis is wrong?

ForeverChiefs58 02-15-2010 06:15 PM

If Carl was here he would draft Claussen without a doubt. Hope Pioli goes defense.

L.A. Chieffan 02-15-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6534536)
Dude, this was ****ing stupid you shouldn't have created this thread with the BRC info. Thanks to this you may have ****ed up the private info that he was providing to all of us.

He said he didnt give a shit if it was posted on here several times

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6534536)
Dude, this was ****ing stupid you shouldn't have created this thread with the BRC info. Thanks to this you may have ****ed up the private info that he was providing to all of us.

Are you a ****ing moron? I'm dead serious.

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534538)
damnit BRINE AND VINAGAR MAKES PICKLES>

So that's why I don't like grandpa's homemade pickles. :(

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:17 PM

So what are the chanes Claussens goes 20-25?

Pablo 02-15-2010 06:18 PM

LINK OR I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534546)
So what are the chanes Claussens goes 20-25?

I can't tell if you type with 17 fingers or 3.

Saul Good 02-15-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534504)
meh his ego has become too cucumbersom

No way. He's the real dill.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:18 PM

It'd be cool to trade Dorsey and a pick for the Lions 3rd trade back with the other pick and draft Claussen. Claussen & Berry FTW. It won't happen.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534495)
If Weis thinks Clausen is the real deal, we should be taking him at 5, provided he's there.

Period.

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534546)
So what are the chanes Claussens goes 20-25?

Considering 7 teams in the Top 10 need a QB, I'd say zero.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6534551)
I can't tell if you type with 17 fingers or 3.

My typing couldn't be as reeruned as your avatar.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534558)
Considering 7 teams in the Top 10 need a QB, I'd say zero.

Does that include us? If not, it should.

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6534560)
Does that include us? If not, it should.

ROFL

You don't even know me anymore.

L.A. Chieffan 02-15-2010 06:21 PM

I say no trades and we take OT, OG, FB first three picks FTW

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534558)
Considering 7 teams in the Top 10 need a QB, I'd say zero.

What about moving Dorsey and 1 of those 2nd round picks for the Lions 3rd? Is that too much to pay for Clausen & Berry?

Saul Good 02-15-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534559)
My typing couldn't be as reeruned as your avatar.

Relax. He's just gerkin your chain.

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534559)
My typing couldn't be as reeruned as your avatar.

Centaurs aren't reeruned. They don't exist. If they did, though, their hooves may have better luck at formulating sentences.

LaChapelle 02-15-2010 06:23 PM

Dammit that's not the stork one

Quesadilla Joe 02-15-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534530)
Thats saying alot when Weis whos a brilliant offensive mind isn't sold on Cassel. He's never gave Cassel a ringing endorsment in interviews either.

ROFL

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534562)
ROFL

You don't even know me anymore.

LMAO Oh, I knew. The Lions, Cleveland, and Tampa are probably the teams you were talking about. I just had to clarify for everyone else. You're kind of a mystery when it comes to our QB. :fire:

Reaper16 02-15-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6534550)
LINK OR I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

Reaper16's Gmail inbox

|Zach| 02-15-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6534536)
Dude, this was ****ing stupid you shouldn't have created this thread with the BRC info. Thanks to this you may have ****ed up the private info that he was providing to all of us.

ROFL

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6534571)
LMAO Oh, I knew. The Lions, Cleveland, and Tampa are probably the teams you were talking about. I just had to clarify for everyone else. You're kind of a mystery when it comes to our QB. :fire:

Rams
Washington
KC
Seattle
Cleveland
Oakland
Buffalo

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 06:25 PM

2-15-2010 06:20 PM BigRedChief You're my favorite poster. Please keep this secret.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6534567)
Centaurs aren't reeruned. They don't exist. If they did, though, their hooves may have better luck at formulating sentences.

LJ is a centaur.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534577)
Rams
Washington
KC
Seattle
Cleveland
Oakland
Buffalo

Rams will go for Suh, I doubt Cleveland will because they are already paying 2Qb's, I doubt Al gives up on Fatmarcus, Buffalo will go for a scrub like Vick or Croyle.

Dante84 02-15-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534579)
LJ is a centaur.

His new job:

ForeverChiefs58 02-15-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534565)
What about moving Dorsey and 1 of those 2nd round picks for the Lions 3rd? Is that too much to pay for Clausen & Berry?

would the Lions pass on one of the top DT's in this draft for Dorsey? I don't see it. I think I would take Suh over Dorsey, but that is just me.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534577)
Rams
Washington
KC
Seattle
Cleveland
Oakland
Buffalo

I think Cleveland and Jacksonville both need one. But I think Jacksonville needs one more. I'm just not a Gerrard fan at all. Cleveland has a couple of guys they're choosing from. I don't see them going that route just yet.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 6534584)
would the Lions pass on one of the top DT's in this draft for Dorsey? I don't see it. I think I would take Suh over Dorsey, but that is just me.

I think Suh goes to St.Louis and Dorsey is probably better and less expensive compared to what McCoy will ask for. I don't think theres anyway we have 2 top 10 draft picks but if we're not going to be big spenders in free agency I wouldn't be opposed to it.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:33 PM

So we're going to pay another top 5's pick signing bonus, and give the best player coming out of the 08 draft away after already paying his signing bonus? Talk about colossal stupid.

chiefzilla1501 02-15-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534540)
Who said Weis is wrong?

I trust Weis more than I trust Haley or Pioli on this.

But it's a common syndrome for coaches to be biased against players they coached. It's the reason why, in my opinion, Solari refused to let go of Jordan Black. It's almost like admitting you were wrong the first time.

Again, it's not that I think Weis is wrong or that he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's that I worry that Weis is operating with blinders on this, only because he's coached them before. On this, I'd second-check with the scouts to make sure they agree on the value.

Especially on Quinn, as I really question whether he has the tools to be a great NFL QB.

Hammock Parties 02-15-2010 06:33 PM

Pipe dream. Someone will take him in the top 10.

OnTheWarpath15 02-15-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6534589)
I think Cleveland and Jacksonville both need one. But I think Jacksonville needs one more. I'm just not a Gerrard fan at all. Cleveland has a couple of guys they're choosing from. I don't see them going that route just yet.

You know the rule: If you don't have a franchise QB, don't pass on one.

None of those teams have franchise QB's, IMO.

Washington might be the only one that might, IMO.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6534598)
So we're going to pay another top 5's pick signing bonus, and give the best player coming out of the 08 draft away after already paying his signing bonus? Talk about colossal stupid.

Not as stupid as paying 2 D-ends in a 3-4 top 5 money.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6534601)
Pipe dream. Someone will take him in the top 10.

Is that what Athan is saying?

BigMeatballDave 02-15-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6534569)
ROFL

Kill yourself. Die in a fire. Whatever. Just go away.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6534602)
You know the rule: If you don;t have a franchise QB, don't pass on one.

None of those teams have franchise QB's, IMO.

Washington might be the only one that might, IMO.

Yeah, I agree. But that makes me think 9 teams in the top 10 don't have one. I'm not sure that Freeman is going to fit the bill. He needs his opportunity though, so I definitely think 8 need one. Clausen, and Bradford :eek: are both probably going to go top 10.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 06:36 PM

If he's available, it will be a major mistake for KC to pass on Clausen.

(the opinions expressed by this poster do not necessarily reflect the views of BRC)

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6534569)
ROFL


Why do you laugh? How many SB's did McDaniel's win as the coordinator in NE? Who had more talent to do so? Our offensive coordinator > your head coach.

Hammock Parties 02-15-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534605)
Is that what Athan is saying?

That's what anyone with a brain knows.

Ralphy Boy 02-15-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 6534519)
A friend of mine who is really big into the 49ers told me his team thinks Claussen reminds them of another good ND QB Montana and they could use their two firsts to get him.


Our #5 = 1700 pts
our #50 = 400 pts
Total = 2100

Their #13 = 1150
Their # 16 = 1000
Total = 2150

Seems like a fair trade, but then who do we draft?

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6534614)
If he's available, it will be a major mistake for KC to pass on Clausen.

Then Clausen is groomed this year and Cassel's option is picked up next year? I'm cool with that but I don't see how they win 8 games this year with all of that going on.

kstater 02-15-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6534614)
If he's available, it will be a major mistake for KC to pass on Clausen.

(the opinions expressed by this poster do not necessarily reflect the views of BRC)


I think it'll be a pretty moot point. I don't see any way Clausen is there at 5.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6534621)
Then Clausen is groomed this year and Cassel's option is picked up next year? I'm cool with that but I don't see how they win 8 games this year with all of that going on.

If we acquire a legit QBOTF, I could give two ****s how many games the team wins in '10

My 8 wins or bust philosophy goes down the shitter.

And there are a couple of ****ing stud WRs coming out next year, too...


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