Kiper (via way of Teicher) talks Clausen to KC...
 

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It’s worth considering but . . .

It’s not likely to happen. Still, the tie between Charlie Weis and his former Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen, is a strong one. It’s strong enough that it’s fair to raise the question: Would the Chiefs, with Weis now running their offense, draft Clausen?

ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper raised the question himself today when I asked him about the players the Chiefs might reasonably consider (more on this later in the Kansas City Star and on kansascity.com) with their top draft pick, which is fifth.

“Charlie Weis is in Kansas City and Jimmy Clausen (will be) there at five. Do they take Clausen and deal Cassel to Denver, say? There’s always going to be talk about that if Clausen is there because Charlie Weis is a huge Jimmy Clausen fan, as everybody knows.’’

As I mentioned earlier, don’t count on it. The Chiefs have too much invested in Matt Cassel to go in another direction now. They also appear to like Brodie Croyle too much to go for Clausen or any other quarterback in an early round.

But because of Clausen’s past with Weis, the possibility might be slim but it can’t be ignored.

i don't expect them to trade cassel if they draft clausen unless some team really knocks their socks off with an offer.

draft Clausen and let him sit on the bench while Cassel gets another year.


If Cassel plays well then Chiefs will have a Charger-esque type decision the next year.

If BRC's report is true it's a definite possibility because Cassel isn't his "guy".

Yeah, you can't get stuck with Clausen, Brodie and a scrub of the year guy.

Doesn't a "trade Cassel, draft Clausen" have the same feel to it as a "trade Dorsey for picks" idea? Smells the same.

No.

We actually saw Dorsey improve in spite of the crap surrounding him.

Cassel, on the other hand, we saw take strides backwards as we watched improvement around him.

See the difference?

We should just stop being masochists and just quit talking about drafting Jimmy Clausen.

It will hurt too bad when he drops to 15 or even 20 and we dont make a move.

I hope to god he goes before we pick so it wont eat at us like Im sure Sanchez will.

Cassel will be 28 when the season starts. Clausen will be 22. It wouldn't be that crazy to groom Clausen for 2 years and then look to move a 30 year old Cassel.

What's the down side? If Cassel sucks, you've got a plan. If Cassel plays well, you've got all kinds of trade options.

I'm not pulling for this to happen, but I wouldn't be upset if it did.

According to BRC's report, it also doesn't appear that Croyle is anybody's guy. Why not trade him to Buffalo so he can be reunited with Chan? Not that he'd necessarily be the QBOTF in Buffalo, but he's familiar with Chan and on some level, more than any other Bill, with his system.

Hence the reason why I'm not opposed to getting Clausen, It sucks that the guy is blackballed, but if KC has contingency plan with Clausen as the QBOTF then pull the trigger. Furthermore, If Weis isn't convinced that Cassel is the right man for the job then erase that doubt, and get the player he wants. Funny thing is Pioli probably gave a pitch that Cassel is a young Tom Brady, but he probably gave him an eyebrow raise, and said "Scott, get me my boy Jimmy Clausen"

Could you even imagine the media meltdown if we actually drafted him?

Personally I don't think it would be a bad idea and I'm not one that is ready to hang Cassel from the nearest tree. I wasn't as open to it a month ago or so, but at the end of the day I've pretty much decided that the problem San Diego had with Brees & Rivers, would be a good one to have. Same scenario with Warner & Leinart, Montana & Young. IF the structure of Cassel's contract really was set up to be able to cut loose of him after 2010, without much of a cap hit, they need to do what is in the best LONG TERM interest of the Chiefs. It may not be popular among the "win now" crowd but they'll forget what side of it they were on when we are winning playoff games because we have a Pro Bowl QB.

Before one of you bass-turds says it, I'm certainly not saying Cassel is Warner, Montana or Brees.

Who's going to give us something AND take on Cassel's contract? Get real. He's all ours.

The only people melting down would be the dipshits, and Clausen won't fall far if he fell to 9 Buffalo would jizz.

Also with there being no cap the structure of his contract and when someone can be cut no longer matters, as of now anyone can be cut with no penalty.

No one ever suggested this last year, BTW.

If KC were to take a QB in the first round it immediately creates a QB controversy. There is no way Haley and Weis want to start of their tenure together in KC with a QB controversy and having to deal with the crap that it brings.

There would only be a QB controversy if Clausen came in and played lights out while Cassel continued to suck donkey balls. And really.....if that happens....who the **** cares. With the way Cassel played last year....he shouldn't be guaranteed a starting job.

Looking at their histories, neither Haley nor Pioli have anything against a QB controversy.

This would be an Epic Win if it actually came to fruition...

Which QB controversy was Pioli involved with?

Bledsoe/Brady :shrug:

Starting QB suffers a life threatening injury and the backup leads the team to a Super Bowl?

They're could have been a possible controversy after that year. I'm sure there were fans screaming for Bledsoe to get his starting job back.

After the original starter was needed to win a playoff game at Pittsburgh.

I'm sure there were lots of fans who wanted Bledsoe (5-13) his last season and two games, over the kid who won the Super Bowl for them. Tons of fans lining up.

Dude....think of all of the fans who wanted to keep Larry Johnson after all of his shit.....there are dumb fans out there for every team.

If this would be a primary reason for not drafting Clausen, both Haley and Weis should be fired immediately.

Good coaches aren't afraid of the ramifications of bringing in talented players, and I doubt the above "reason" concerns our coaching staff in the least.

There isn't a controversy if Cassel plays better. And if he doesn't, there should be a QB controversy, rather than a situation where you have nobody else to go to.

I keep seeing Brees/ Rivers being the example here. Difference is those guys got to develop with a good team around them. Foremost an O-line that could block and recievers who could catch.

JFC.

Do you even watch football? How did the Chargers have the #1 pick in the draft if they were good? Eli Manning forced a trade because the Chargers were terrible. The Chargers got Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding out of that deal which is a big part of what made them good.

The Patriots went to the Super Bowl because of their defense, Brady was just a game manager back then. Are you saying Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman, and Brad Johnson are franchise QB's too?

Do you get tired of pulling shit from your ass? The Pats were 6th in points that year.

I did regarding Stafford.

Drew Bledsoe played less than 3 quarters in the playoffs yet threw as many postseason TD passes as Brady that season. Let's not pretend that this was cut and dried.

Good for them, they were also 22 in passing bundle of sticks. Which you know, I think passing is what your QB does and 22 out of 31 isn't great.

If you keep calling people bundle of stickss I'm going to call you Guardian Jr.

The leading rusher had what 1,100 yards? Brady was close to 64% and 18 TDs in 14 games with little experience.

Did that SOB get on my email list?;)

I believe that was the first time using bundle of sticks.