Would you be opposed to?....
 

Sending the Ravens a 2nd round pick (the first one) for Jared Gaither?

Only 23 years old. Mountain of a man. Solid experience. They apparently want to move Michael Oher to LT.

I would do it with one condition, that Albert has to play LG. I do not want Albert at RT.

Waters could try to move to RG, if not, cut him.

Thoughts?

Albert would be terrible at LG.

Would prefer we sent pick 2b, but... I'd take him.

I wish we had gotten him in the supplemental draft 3 years ago.

Stick to dressing up in Star Wars gear please.

Why are they wanting to move him? Is he not that good??

Why would Albert be successful at left guard?

I believe the Ravens gave him a first round tender offer. Think they'd really do a 2nd? I'm not sure I'd ever consider cutting Waters unless there was a massive influx of talent on the o-line. We're awfully thin there at the moment.

I don't know, maybe that's the position he earned all his praise for in college?

Didnt he play that in college?

From what I heard...

They want Oher at LT, and they feel that it will be too expensive to keep him next year.

They tendered him at a 1 only and they have said they might take less compensation to get a deal done.

Yeah but he's barely 300 pounds now. And he just spent two years playing left tackle.

he is good but he has neck, ankle and foot injuries and if the Ravens are concerned then...well... you get the idea.

I'd be very leery of trading anything but the 50. Gaither is a manbeast and would look great in a Chiefs uniform but I'm convinced we have a damn good LT. This is tough........

Albert was a left guard in college. I think the 2a would be too much. The 2b maybe. i haven't watched enough Ravens football to make a great assessment but it would have to Roaf part 2 for me to part with 2a.

We could have gotten Gaither for a 3rd in the supp. draft. Dammit Carl!!

He's a pretty solid LT, actually.

Oher has tremendous upside, and the Raven used a first round pick on him, so they must feel they need to move him to maximize his value.

But at the same time, they used a first round pick on Gaither.

But I think I'd bring in Gaither and let he amd Albert compete for teh LT position.

I honestly believe, if Albert has dedicated himself to learning and improving technique through this offseason (and I believe he has), that he wins the battle, and you have a guy in Gaither with the athletic ability and size to be a dominating RT.

Though why the Ravens wouldn't simply flip flop positions between Oher and Gaither would be a head scratcher to me.

I'm sold. But still nothing more than the 50.

It would take someone special for my old man to advocate any chance of Albert not playing LT next year. No one on this board was higher on him before the draft than milkman. No one.

Gaither was a 5th round supplemental.

I'd probably do it for 2b if Baltimore also sent us a 7th rounder.

Milk, Gaither was not a first rounder. I think he was selected with the supplemental pick in the 4th round a few years ago.

I'd part with 2B. He's 23 years old. He's performed very well in the NFL already. If he was old, I could see not wanting to part with it, but a Gaither/Albert left side would be a pretty nice thing to have.

And oh yeah, it would ensure that Okung or Baluga is NOT a Chief.

Yea, sounds like a good idea to me.....

Competition is always good.

Huh? I'm pretty sure he was in the Supp. draft a couple years ago.

Oh shit, you're right.

Reading comprehension issue on my part.

We're all subject to dumbassery.

I'm going to verbally assault myself now.

Yeah, thanks.

I'm on board.

Can't help but wonder if the Ravens are concerned about his health/injuries:

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...d_Gaither.aspx

Allow me. :cuss:

I have never been opposed to the idea of bringing in competition.

What I am opposed to is using the #5 overall on a guy like Okung or Baluga, neither of whom has the potetial that Albert has.

The next sentence brought to you in Sacopoo vision.

"Okung or Baluga at LT, Albert to LG, and Gaither to RT. You can never spend too many high picks on OL."

Jared Gaither is better than any tackle in this draft. He's also the same age as Okung. I'd probably do this move for 2a if Baltimore would send us a 6th this year and a 4th in 2011.

You useless ****ing dumbass, wtf is wrong with you?

If you had done your research and paid the **** attention when you did, you would have seen he was a supplemental 5th round pick.

I hope Robbie Alomar pisses in your Brandy.

****ing dumbass.

:cuss:

I know. But that's the only real competition that Albert is going to get. We don't want that at all. We're on the same page here, maybe I worded it incorrectly. Feel free to return that verbal abuse.

I still think Waters to center or pick one up in the draft and Niswanger to RT is a good thing to try

Anyone find any evidence that this scenario is even under consideration at Arrowhead? Providing Gaither can stay healthy, this could be a good deal for the Chiefs if they don't over-compensate.

I still don't know why people think that Waters to center is a good idea.

He struggled with the exchange when he was working there in the past, his play has declined at LG over the last two seasons, and now you want to move him to a more physcally demanding position.

No sense.
None whatsoever.

Well said. That guys an A-hole. He never adds anything of football value to this site. :)

If this went down, we'd probably keep Waters for depth and he'd probably be happy about it honestly.

Niswanger at RT? Where the **** do you people come up with this shit?

Niswanger couldn't drive block a CPR dummy.

Alligator arms?

run into a gonnorhea tree and die in a salmonella fire!

I wonder what he could do with a CPR dummy...

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**** yes.

Jared Gaither for any kind of a second round pick would be a steal. If we could get him for the 2B pick, I would do that without hesitation. This guy is a stud, and is only 23 years old.

If he was actually in this draft, and was sitting there at 2B, I don't think you even question it. Add in that he has actually had a couple successful seasons in the NFL protecting Flacco's blind side, and this is a no-brainer.

milkman's assholishness knows no limits.

Regarding Gaither, it's a no-brainer. We have a spot for him somewhere on the line.

I'd trade the 2B pick.

Are we even connected to this though? This seems like false hope for us no? The Ravens arent part of our family FO tree so why would Pioli and the band do business with them? I'm sure he will just wait for whatever shitter lineman the Pats or Dolphins cut and sign those guys (again). But I agree, I would use the 2b draft pick on Gaither in a minute.

our 3rd.

Oh noes...


NFL Free Agency Rumor: Jared Gaither on the Move, 49ers Leading Candidate?
by Matt Miselis
March 06, 2010

The Baltimore Ravens were arguably the biggest winner in what was a very active day in this NFL offseason.

After years of lacking a go-to receiver, one was found in Anquan Boldin to go alongside young quarterback Joe Flacco.

After landing the big receiver they wanted, the Ravens' front office will shift their attention to re-signing Derrick Mason to complete this receiver upgrade.

However, new rumors have emerged regarding Ravens left tackle Jared Gaither, who was tagged with a first-round tender.

According to espn.com and NFL Network, the 49ers, Seahawks, and Cowboys have contacted the Ravens on a possible trade.

The 49ers have emerged as the leading candidate, offering their 17th overall pick. However, the Ravens certainly know the 49ers have the 13th overall selection, and may force the 49ers to give Gaither a large contract, along with giving up their top selection.

What could this mean? A few possible options. Would the Ravens consider trading up to get Dez Bryant, or cornerback Joe Haden?

Or would they go offensive or defensive line?

It is uncertain whether or not the Ravens will retain the young tackle, who has made a name for himself after being drafted pretty low by Baltimore.

If Gaither does leave, Michael Oher would shift to the left side, while the right tackle may be up for competition.

For the 49ers' sake, this would be one good deal. They get a young, proven left tackle whom they were likely to draft with either of their first-round selections.

With the Cardinals going through a lot of changes this off-season, this may not be an opportunity San Francisco can not pass up.

Expect to here more news on this story within the next 24 hours.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...ding-candidate

Well....

We have to hope at some point that Pioli looks beyond the leaves of the tree to see there's life out there in the rest of the forest.

Wow. More power to them I guess. Has Staley been underperforming? I had no idea.

Of course we wouldn't contact the Ravens.

So much for that. They can have him for that price.

Yeah, uh, 2B wasn't going to be enough.

BTW, the Ravens only have 2 picks in the first 4 rounds, so there's an additional incentive for them to trade Gaither.

No it would be.

Unless you're the 49ers. (If you belive the article.)

Staley sucks ass.

We can't compete with that offer. Good luck with him, SF.

I had no idea. For some reason I thought he was playing pretty well, but I don't know where I got that from.

Yeah, at that price, enjoy!

Sarcasm.

That price really isn't bad at all for the 49ers. Gaither is 23 years old, and would be the best tackle in this draft. He is a steal for a team in the middle of the first round, IMO.

Its called "TRY" him.

I'd rather have Gathier than Russell ****ing Okung.

The Chief's already are looking at Rex Hadnot. Good call!

If I had a need the way the 9ers apparently do and they were already targeting an OT, they can't do any better than that. I think it's a good move for them.

missed that. :thumb:

"Hadnot" ... so what's in a name anyway? :) Sure his first name isn't "Les"?

And once again, I ask why?

If he's struggling to stay at the top of his game physically at the guard position, then trying him at center, a more physically demanding position, is a wasted experiment.

It's like pouring water into a cullender to see if it will hold that water.

Actually VERY recently, Haley talked about how Waters could play at a VERY high level at center. Which had me scared we would draft a LT and slide everyone to the right a spot.

I wouldn't be opposed to sliding the line in favor of a better LT, but just didn't want that LT to come at the #5 pick.

Nick Wright seems to think we won't be drafting a LT in the first round. Which means Okung is the pick.

Whered you see this at?

Oh, **** me.

I'd give up 1b if I'm SF, but I'm not giving Baltimore 13. No one else will, either. Seattle may give up 14, that's your only competition.

FWIW, the Baltimore front office is flat out ****ing amazing.

I really like the way the ravens do things.

SB winning coach.
You haven't produced a winner in a couple of years, **** it you're fired.

Draft a bust at QB.
****, let's take another shot.

Draft a damn good LT who has some injury concerns.
**** it, let's draft another and move the first one for a first round pick.

The fact that they traded back up to take the shot on Flacco is very impressive.

Dammit. You're right. It was the Donkey's. My bad.

Any one of those moves would give a True Fan a stroke.

And we're concerned?

No. That alone validates them.

LMAO Dumbass

:facepalm:

Baltimore has never had the franchise QB or they would be the model franchise in the NFL by far they are the best at player personal.

Man I miss Roaf. We were spoiled.