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CrazyHorse 03-09-2010 08:54 AM

Why not Brandon Marshall.
 
If you want a no brainer slam dunk 1st round talent, who better than Marshall? It's not like we dont have the cap room to sign him to a deal Denver couldn't match. All we would have to do is out bid Seattle. Like the Ravens did us for Boldin.

Yeah the #5 is a high pick that you dont want to give to a division rival. But they are likely to get it from somewhere else.

At least we know we wouldn't be "missing" on our 1st rounder for a change. That would be nice. Not to mention, you would get an immediate return on investment instead of the developmental cyrve we would have to go through with a rook.

Just a thought.

tymania 03-09-2010 09:01 AM

F all that.. dont want to give the Donkeys a top 5 pick.. maybe if we could trade down and then trade our 1st round pick.. either way i think we need our first pick to fill other holes on the squad

morphius 03-09-2010 09:02 AM

I think he has proven to be enough of a head case that there is no way our coaching staff touches him, and only a team that believes they are a WR short would.

DeezNutz 03-09-2010 09:02 AM

I'm a big fan of Marshall. Special talent.

That said, no chance I'd trade #5 overall if Clausen and Berry are on the board. Would I rather take Marshall than Tyson Jackson (I or II)? Every single day.

But I'd rather draft Clausen, and package our high 2nd, plus Cassel to Denver for Marshall in return.

thecoffeeguy 03-09-2010 09:02 AM

He is a head case.

MOhillbilly 03-09-2010 09:04 AM

wut?:spock:

Crush 03-09-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6589061)
I'm a big fan of Marshall. Special talent.

That said, no chance I'd trade #5 overall if Clausen and Berry are on the board. Would I rather take Marshall than Tyson Jackson (I or II)? Every single day.

But I'd rather draft Clausen, and package our high 2nd, plus Cassel to Denver for Marshall in return.


McDaniels is stupid enough to do it. To the milk truck!!!

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2010 09:04 AM

Pass

CoMoChief 03-09-2010 09:09 AM

You make a trade like this if you're needing that one player to take you over the hump to make your team a legit SB contender.

The Chiefs have way too many holes to be giving up prime draft picks. Maybe in a couple years I'd make a trade like this. But we need a player like safety Eric Berry. I thought we would do better in FA than what we've been doing. With Haley ties in ARZ, I would have thought we'd go after Dansby hard. Maybe he did, and just wanted to play in MIA instead I dunno.

But Marshall is worth a top 5 pick? Probably, he's a top WR in this league. Are we in a position to sacrafice the 5th overall pick......probably not.

Frazod 03-09-2010 09:10 AM

Send the No. 5 overall pick to the ****ing Broncos? Are you insane? :spock:

OnTheWarpath15 03-09-2010 09:13 AM

Why not?

Because this organization values nice guys with marginal talent over talented guys that aren't boy scouts.

I wouldn't trade our 1st round pick for him, but I'd definitely package Cassel and a pick for him.

Eh, what am I thinking? We have Chris Chambers. We're set at WR.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6589078)
Send the No. 5 overall pick to the ****ing Broncos? Are you insane? :spock:

I would :clap: the move... great strategery. Think about it, you're getting a much better version of Bitter Kennison!

MOhillbilly 03-09-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6589083)



I wouldn't trade our 1st round pick for him, but I'd definitely package Cassel and a pick for him.

crazy talk.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-09-2010 09:38 AM

I would love Marshall. Is it possible to sign him to a poison pill offer sheet after the draft is over?

wazimo 03-09-2010 09:43 AM

What about switching 1st rounders and also send one of our 2nd rounders for Marshall

Molitoth 03-09-2010 09:47 AM

Marshall is good, but I can't see him being happy here.

See ya.

-King- 03-09-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6589137)
I would love Marshall. Is it possible to sign him to a poison pill offer sheet after the draft is over?

I don't think so, but I wouldn't do it anyway. If we do that, that opens us up to retaliation. They might sign one of RFAs and put a poison pill in the contract. We don't want to lose any of our talented RFAs..... :)
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SenselessChiefsFan 03-09-2010 10:00 AM

Marshall is a head case. There is a reason he fell to the fourth round. There is a reason that teams aren't jumping all over sending a first round pick to the Broncos for him.

The Broncos can negotiate lesser compensation, but I doubt they do that for their division rivals. The Chiefs only shot would be to sign him to an offer sheet and give up the first round pick.

The fifth pick overall is too steep for a guy who could end up suspended for a year or be a distraction.

I would be hard pressed to give up our lower second rounder for him. I know he is a great talent, but I think team chemistry, and I am not sure that this team could handle his influence right now.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2010 10:12 AM

I think there are 2-3 teams with solid interest in signing him to an offer sheet... and most likely, this will be a situation that doesn't materialize until we're close to the draft.

Teams like a SEA with a prime R1 pick will likely wait until the draft gets closer just to see what happens. If another team or two show major interest, then maybe it speeds up the process.

If Brandon's agent were creative, he would float rumors that 49ers, Rams or Cardinals were becoming more interested in his services. Who knows, maybe that is in the near future.

But, in reality... if you have a top pick like SEA has... why rush to make a deal now? See what happens.

LaChapelle 03-09-2010 11:20 AM

If your in for a 1st might as well be in for a 3rd also and get Vincent Jackson
He and Haley might actually not be like fire and gasoline

Garcia Bronco 03-09-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tymania (Post 6589058)
F all that.. dont want to give the Donkeys a top 5 pick.. maybe if we could trade down and then trade our 1st round pick.. either way i think we need our first pick to fill other holes on the squad

You guys will waste that top pick like you do every year when you draft about right there.

Garcia Bronco 03-09-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6589137)
I would love Marshall. Is it possible to sign him to a poison pill offer sheet after the draft is over?

No the period for RFA's is from 3/2/xx to 4/15/xx

Garcia Bronco 03-09-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6589201)
I think there are 2-3 teams with solid interest in signing him to an offer sheet... and most likely, this will be a situation that doesn't materialize until we're close to the draft.

Teams like a SEA with a prime R1 pick will likely wait until the draft gets closer just to see what happens. If another team or two show major interest, then maybe it speeds up the process.

If Brandon's agent were creative, he would float rumors that 49ers, Rams or Cardinals were becoming more interested in his services. Who knows, maybe that is in the near future.

But, in reality... if you have a top pick like SEA has... why rush to make a deal now? See what happens.

His agent has been floating those rumors. There is only one team that's actually been interested and that's seattle.

MahiMike 03-09-2010 11:35 AM

I'd give Denver our 1st pick in the 2nd round. Then I'd give him exactly $5 in guaranteed money and pay him by the game. If he has a tantrum, he doesn't get paid that week.

vailpass 03-09-2010 11:40 AM

One team giving a division rival a pro-bowl stud WR is about as likely as another team giving a division rival a #5 draft pick.

Miles 03-09-2010 11:41 AM

He would obviously be nice to have but is too big of a ****up to give a high pick and sign him to a huge contract. Also, not like it is realistic for the Broncos to trade someone as good as Marshall within the division unless someone is willing to badly overpay.

HotRoute 03-09-2010 11:43 AM

guys like TO and B.marshall i really dont even consider. pioli wont ever sign one of those guys because of their bad behavior and huge mouths. part of those considered "not the right 53 "

BigChiefFan 03-09-2010 11:44 AM

I wouldn't trade a draft pick for cancer and that's what we would be getting. Let the Broncos hold on to that head case and disrupt their locker room.

vailpass 03-09-2010 11:55 AM

If Pioli traded for BMarsh tomorrow 95% of you would sing the praises of your GM and celebrate finally having a stud WR.

BigChiefFan 03-09-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6589390)
If Pioli traded for BMarsh tomorrow 95% of you would sing the praises of your GM and celebrate finally having a stud WR.

He's a great WR, but if he's so damn talented, why would the Broncos be willing to let him go? Answer:he's a disruptive headcase.

morphius 03-09-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6589390)
If Pioli traded for BMarsh tomorrow 95% of you would sing the praises of your GM and celebrate finally having a stud WR.

Maybe if it was for something a bit lower then a first round pick they might, but for a guy who you can count on finding a way to get his ass suspended during the game you have to win to make the playoff's... eh.

ChiefsCountry 03-09-2010 01:00 PM

I would trade them Cassel straight up.
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alpha_omega 03-09-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 6589054)

Yeah the #5 is a high pick that you dont want to give to a division rival.

You answered your own question.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-09-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6589083)
Why not?

Because this organization values nice guys with marginal talent over talented guys that aren't boy scouts.

I wouldn't trade our 1st round pick for him, but I'd definitely package Cassel and a pick for him.

Eh, what am I thinking? We have Chris Chambers. We're set at WR.

Ouch. That's some painful truth, Kimosabbe! LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-09-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6589533)
I would trade them Cassel straight up.
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No no no! Stay the course! Okung FTW!

Delano 03-09-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 6589482)
... a guy who you can count on finding a way to get his ass suspended during the game you have to win to make the playoff's... eh.

:slow clap:
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ChiefsfaninHutch 03-09-2010 01:20 PM

Didn't we just dump a guy last year that had a bad attitude coupled with a big contract? This has all the signs of an LJ equivalent at WR to me.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-09-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 6589324)
No the period for RFA's is from 3/2/xx to 4/15/xx

Thanks for the info.

Chief Faithful 03-09-2010 01:33 PM

I don't see Marshall as a no-brainer #5 talent.

Hootie 03-09-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6589083)
Why not?

Because this organization values nice guys with marginal talent over talented guys that aren't boy scouts.

I wouldn't trade our 1st round pick for him, but I'd definitely package Cassel and a pick for him.

Eh, what am I thinking? We have Chris Chambers. We're set at WR.

I think the Broncos are over Matt Cassel.

Titty Meat 03-09-2010 01:59 PM

He never played for New England or drafted by Parcells. Therefore he's not apart of the right 53.

OnTheWarpath15 03-09-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6589660)
I think the Broncos are over Matt Cassel.

After seeing him play last year, you can understand why.

Trust me, I know that even mentioning trading Cassel is a ****ing dream scenario. Pioli won't admit his mistake.

vailpass 03-09-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6589396)
He's a great WR, but if he's so damn talented, why would the Broncos be willing to let him go? Answer:he's a disruptive headcase.

Yes, Marshall has issues. From what I hear, this is one thing affecting Marshall in Denver that may not be an inssue in another city:

Marshall is uncomfortable in Denver. He, along with Darrent Williams, was the verbal confrontor of the gang members the night of the shooting murder of Williams. Since then the gang has murdered one witness. Marshall has been living uncomfortably in Denver ever since.

vailpass 03-09-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 6589594)
I don't see Marshall as a no-brainer #5 talent.

Who do you see as #5 talent?

Miles 03-09-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6590280)
Yes, Marshall has issues. From what I hear, this is one thing affecting Marshall in Denver that may not be an inssue in another city:

Marshall is uncomfortable in Denver. He, along with Darrent Williams, was the verbal confrontor of the gang members the night of the shooting murder of Williams. Since then the gang has murdered one witness. Marshall has been living uncomfortably in Denver ever since.

Three of his legal dust-ups occurred before the Willams shooting and a few have been on other states. Still a change of scenery may do him some good.

Miles 03-09-2010 05:16 PM

Here is a pretty detailed timeline from an ESPN Outside the Lines report from last spring that details shit that Marshall has gotten himself in.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/n...ory?id=4216417

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Oct. 31, 2004: During his junior year at the University of Central Florida, Brandon Marshall faced misdemeanor charges of trespass, resisting arrest without violence, disorderly conduct, refusal to obey and assault on a police officer after an argument with an off-duty Florida Highway Patrol officer turned heated at an Orlando Denny's restaurant. According to the off-duty officer, Marshall, who'd been asked to leave the restaurant for creating a disturbance, accused the officer and the restaurant manager of being "racist," threatened to sue Denny's and the Florida Highway Patrol and said he was "a star and a well-known athlete." Marshall screamed profanities and locked his fists as if he were preparing to strike the officer, according to the report. The charges were later dismissed.

April 8, 2005: Marshall was charged with retail theft, a misdemeanor, after trying to return a stolen set of bed sheets, valued at $19.99, to a Burlington Coat Factory, according to a police report of the incident. The charge was later dropped.

April 2006: Marshall was drafted by the Broncos in the fourth round of the NFL draft, No. 119 overall.

June 17, 2006: Conflicting police reports from Marshall and Rasheedah Watley were filed with the Orange County, Fla., Sheriff's Department. Marshall told police that Watley became violent after seeing him earlier that evening as the object of another woman's affection. Marshall described Watley to police as an old family friend and told police that Watley punched him and scratched his chest after an argument inside the couple's Orlando apartment spiraled out of control. Watley, who filed a police report by phone from Atlanta three days after the incident, told Florida police that Marshall was the aggressor, and that he slapped her in the face, grabbed her by the arms and pushed her to the ground, and that Marshall's sister, London, who was also present during the fight, cut Watley above her eye by throwing a cell phone or remote control at her face. No charges were ever filed.

Dec. 31, 2006: Marshall and several Broncos teammates were present at "The Shelter," a nightclub in Denver's LoDo section, as part of a birthday celebration for Denver Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. Former Broncos wide receiver Javon Walker later told HBO's "Real Sports" that an argument broke out at the club when Marshall and his cousin sprayed champagne on another club patron and his friend. The men, who argued with Marshall and his cousin, were then asked to leave the club, Walker told HBO. Walker admitted he didn't see the encounter. According to media reports, around closing time, Marshall and his cousin were seen on the sidewalk outside the club arguing with the patrons who had been ejected from the club earlier that night. Walker told HBO that he believes the argument contributed to a drive-by shooting a short time later that killed Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams.

Jan. 24, 2007: Police responded to a parking lot outside an Orlando bowling alley where Marshall and his father had a heated argument. According to a police report of the incident, Frederick Marshall said his son took out a handgun and fired one shot at him after the two men argued. Frederick Marshall, who refused to sign a sworn statement or press charges, said his son left the area after firing the handgun. Several witnesses said they never heard gunshots, according to the police report. While officers spoke with Frederick Marshall that evening, Brandon Marshall returned to the parking lot and provided his own statement. Brandon Marshall told police that his father had asked him for money earlier that night and that when he said "no," Frederick Marshall left the bowling alley in anger, broke a beer bottle on Brandon Marshall's vehicle and then tried to run down Brandon Marshall with his car, forcing him to jump between two vehicles in the parking lot to avoid getting hit, according to the report. Frederick Marshall also threatened to "ruin [Brandon's] professional football career," according to the police report. Brandon Marshall also declined to press charges.

March 18, 2007: Atlanta police responded to a domestic dispute call at the Westin Peachtree hotel. Watley told officers that after meeting Marshall at the hotel that night, he became enraged after he went through her cell phone call list and noticed she'd been speaking with an ex-boyfriend. Watley told police Marshall hit her repeatedly with a closed fist. While she refused medical attention, police noticed a large, dark-colored bruise on Watley's chin. Police reported seeing Marshall in the lobby of a neighboring hotel but, according to the report, Marshall left and was not arrested. Police advised Watley to take out a warrant for Marshall's arrest, but Watley never did. No charges were ever filed.

March 21, 2007: Watley filed a report with police in Boca Raton, Fla. Watley and Marshall, who were staying in south Florida with Marshall's uncle, told police that an argument started that night at a local restaurant after Marshall refused to ask Watley to marry him. According to a police report, while Watley was walking home, Marshall grabbed a large pipe from a construction site and hit the ground with it in frustration. Nobody was hurt. Police characterized the incident as a verbal domestic dispute. No charges were filed.

March 26, 2007: Police in Douglas County, Colo., arrested Marshall for false imprisonment and domestic violence. Watley told "Outside the Lines" she was assaulted by Marshall a day earlier at Marshall's suburban Denver home -- she never reported that incident to police -- and that she was attempting to fly back to Atlanta to get away from Marshall. Watley told police she and Marshall argued at the Denver airport and that she later agreed to return to Marshall's home. Watley told police when she attempted to leave Marshall's home a second time, Marshall followed her taxi and, at one point, blocked its path with his Dodge Charger, leapt from his car and punched the taxi cab's windows. When contacted by "Outside the Lines," the cab driver confirmed Watley's version of events. Marshall denied punching the taxi cab's windows and later told police he was only trying to retrieve his cell phone, which he said Watley had taken from him.

May 25, 2007: Charges against Marshall relating to his arrest in Douglas County, Colo., were dismissed after he successfully completed anger management classes.

June 8, 2007: Police responded to Marshall and Watley's Atlanta condo at 5 a.m. and found Watley with a noticeable cut on her right thigh. Watley initially told officers that she accidentally cut herself with a kitchen knife. Watley told the first officer to arrive that while she had argued with Marshall earlier that evening, no physical abuse occurred. Marshall was not present. Roughly an hour later, at 6:07 a.m., police were dispatched to the condo a second time. On this second visit Watley told police that Marshall did indeed cut her thigh with a kitchen knife during a fight earlier that evening and that he later returned to the condo and continued to assault Watley by punching her in the forehead. Watley's friend, Kristeena Spivey, told police that while she was attempting to drive Watley from the condo complex, she noticed Marshall attempting to leave the scene. Spivey, who called 911 to make officers aware of Marshall's whereabouts, said when she attempted to block Marshall's exit from the parking lot with her vehicle, Marshall rammed her car with his Cadillac Escalade and then left his SUV and threw a large rock at the passenger side of Spivey's car. Marshall fled the scene before police arrived, according to Spivey and Watley. Watley was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital for treatment. No charges were ever filed.

June 30, 2007: Atlanta police responded to a fight-in-progress call at Marshall and Watley's condo. Watley told police that a fight broke out after Marshall missed a flight and blamed Watley. Watley told police Marshall struck her with a closed fist and choked her. Watley had a bruise on her left eye and noticeable scratches on her body, according to a police report of the incident. Officers made Watley aware of the procedures to obtain a restraining order. No charges were filed.

Oct. 22, 2007: Hours after defeating the Pittsburgh Steelers, Marshall was cited at 2 a.m. by Denver police for driving under the influence after he was seen driving erratically. His blood-alcohol level was 0.116 (the legal limit for DUI in Colorado is 0.08).

Jan. 18, 2008: Watley obtained a temporary protective order against Marshall in Fulton County (Ga.) Superior Court. At the time, Marshall was forbidden to come within 200 yards of Watley. Watley, through her attorneys, eventually agreed to lift the court order.

Feb. 18, 2008: Watley told "Outside the Lines" that as part of a Valentine's Day present, and in an attempt to repair their relationship, Marshall surprised her with a last-minute trip to San Juan, Puerto Rico. While on that trip, Watley said, Marshall argued with her about an ex-boyfriend. Watley said Marshall assaulted her at San Juan's Condado Plaza Hotel, hitting her in the mouth, which caused her to bleed, and choking her on the bed. A report was filed by police saying officers were called to the hotel to help hotel security escort guests from the property. The report does not mention Watley, Marshall or any details of the incident.

March 4, 2008: Police responded around 9 p.m. to a fight call at Marshall and Watley's Atlanta condo and found Marshall bleeding from his hand. Marshall initially told police that during an argument with Watley, one of Watley's sisters cut him on his hand with a knife. When asked by police who had the knife, Marshall then told officers there was no knife, and that he'd been cut on glass during a fight with Watley. Watley told police that Marshall became upset after finding text messages from an ex-boyfriend on Watley's phone. Watley had several cuts on her lips, according to a police report, and told officers that Marshall had grabbed her by the head and slapped her. While police were interviewing Watley, Marshall fled, according to a report of the incident.

March 5, 2008: Police returned to Marshall and Watley's condo around 1 a.m. Watley and her sister both told police that after the fight earlier that same evening, Marshall returned to the condo, took Watley's purse and threw her personal belongings, including clothing, off of the 20th floor balcony. Police told Watley to leave the residence, but she declined and explained that she feared Marshall would return again once officers left and damage more of her property.

March 5, 2008: Watley obtained her second temporary protective order against Marshall in Fulton County Superior Court. Marshall was once again forbidden by the court order to come within 200 yards of Watley.

May 5, 2008: Atlanta police were called once again to the condo Watley shared for more than a year with Marshall. According to a police report, Watley and Marshall's mother argued about Watley's attempt to remove items from the condo. No charges were filed.

Aug. 5, 2008: The NFL released a statement announcing that Marshall would be suspended without pay for the Broncos' first three regular-season games of 2008 for violating the NFL personal conduct policy. The statement noted that "if Marshall fully complies with required counseling and other conditions of the suspension, Commissioner Goodell will consider reducing the suspension to two games."

Aug. 28, 2008: Less than a month after the NFL released a statement announcing Marshall's suspension, the league released another statement saying Marshall's suspension had been reduced upon appeal to one game without pay plus an additional fine of one game check. An NFL spokesman told ESPN "a potential reduction in [Marshall's] initial three-game suspension was always contemplated if he complied with required counseling and other conditions of the suspension." The spokesman would not elaborate on the precise conditions Marshall met to have his suspension reduced.

Sept. 10, 2008: Marshall was charged with two misdemeanor counts of simple battery as a result of the incident the previous March (his formal bond arraignment was Nov. 3, 2008). Simple battery, according to the Fulton County District Attorney's office, is punishable by up to one year in jail and/or a $1,000 fine.

Sept. 12, 2008: Nearly a year after being cited for DUI in Denver, Marshall pleaded guilty to the lesser offense of driving while ability-impaired. He was sentenced to one year of probation.

Feb. 5, 2009: While attending a dinner party in Honolulu as part of his Pro Bowl appearance, Marshall proposed to Michi Nogami-Campbell. Marshall told the Denver Post he met Nogami-Campbell while the two attended the University of Central Florida. The engagement prompted several sports writers to praise what they characterized as Marshall's maturity.

March 1, 2009: Marshall and his fiancée, Nogami-Campbell, were seen by an off-duty Atlanta police officer arguing outside the same Atlanta condo Marshall once shared with Watley. According to a police report of the incident, the off-duty officer saw Marshall and Nogami-Campbell kicking and punching one another on the sidewalk outside the condo building. The off-duty officer said she saw Marshall grab Nogami-Campbell by the shirt and pin her up against the wall. Nogami-Campbell continued to kick and hit Marshall, the officer said. Both Marshall and Nogami-Campbell were arrested and taken to the Atlanta City Jail. They were released later that same day and charges were dismissed. In a statement to ESPN, the NFL said the incident remains "under review."

John Barr is a reporter in ESPN's Enterprise Unit. He can be reached at [email protected]. ESPN producer Justine Gubar contributed to this report.

vailpass 03-09-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 6590313)
Three of his legal dust-ups occurred before the Willams shooting and a few have been on other states. Still a change of scenery may do him some good.

His off-field incidents have been detailed ad nauseum both here and elsewhere.

Jethopper 03-09-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsfaninHutch (Post 6589566)
Didn't we just dump a guy last year that had a bad attitude coupled with a big contract? This has all the signs of an LJ equivalent at WR to me.

WTF.......WTF........ummm, please consider talent level and age next time.

Sanka 03-09-2010 05:28 PM

I wouldn't give up a 150th round pick in the 2910 draft for him.

vailpass 03-09-2010 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 6590351)
I wouldn't give up a 150th round pick in the 2910 draft for him.

Well done. That is just the kind of thinking that will allow your team to maintain their current level of excellence.

Sanka 03-09-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6590353)
Well done. That is just the kind of thinking that will allow your team to maintain their current level of excellence.

Cause he has lead your team to the promise land how many times?

vailpass 03-09-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 6590387)
Cause he has lead your team to the promise land how many times?

Is it promised land smack you want to trade?

TheGuardian 03-09-2010 07:39 PM

It doesn't even matter if he's a head case, or some great talent. WR's generally don't play a big role in helping win a championship. Last year Fitz run was really exceptional. But generally WR's don't mean a while lot in terms of building championship teams.

|Zach| 03-09-2010 07:46 PM

Marshall is a punk ass bitch. They can keep him.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0828...shallb_200.jpg

ChiefsCountry 03-09-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6590797)
It doesn't even matter if he's a head case, or some great talent. WR's generally don't play a big role in helping win a championship. Last year Fitz run was really exceptional. But generally WR's don't mean a while lot in terms of building championship teams.

What dyntasy didn't have a true stud WR?

Chiefs in 60's - Otis Taylor
Steelers in 70's - Swann
49ers in 80's - Jerry Rice
Cowboys in 90's - Irvin
Patriots in 00's - that would be the only one but Branch was no slouch during his time in New England.

TheGuardian 03-09-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6590927)
What dyntasy didn't have a true stud WR?

Chiefs in 60's - Otis Taylor
Steelers in 70's - Swann
49ers in 80's - Jerry Rice
Cowboys in 90's - Irvin
Patriots in 00's - that would be the only one but Branch was no slouch during his time in New England.

The 9ers won a SB without Rice and would have been a dynasty without him more than likely anyway. But that's a rarity.

Michael Irvin led the league one yards 1 time. That's the only time he ever led the league in anything.

Lynn Swann was not a "stud" WR in the least. Him being the hall is a joke.

The Chiefs were a dynasty???? Uh.........

And now you're talking about Deion Branch? I think my point has been made.

You can win championships with guys like Bowe and Chambers. The Saints just won a SB by using a mix and match of guys. Colston just barely cracked 1K yards. Trading a first round pick for a WR would be stupid beyond belief.

TEX 03-09-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 6590351)
I wouldn't give up a 150th round pick in the 2910 draft for him.

This X 10. He's just a punk ass idiot.

tyler360 03-09-2010 11:15 PM

I can't believe no one wants Marshall.

He is too talented to just say no. I would totally trade picks for him.

Not our #5 but I would love him on our team.

Miles 03-09-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6590797)
It doesn't even matter if he's a head case, or some great talent. WR's generally don't play a big role in helping win a championship. Last year Fitz run was really exceptional. But generally WR's don't mean a while lot in terms of building championship teams.

Then why do most of the teams that have made it to the superbowl over the past 20 or so years have at least one good #1 WR? Three of the last six Super Bowl MVP's have been WR's.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-10-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6590353)
Well done. That is just the kind of thinking that will allow your team to maintain their current level of excellence.

As opposed to the sheer awesomeness displayed by McFist-Me? Chi' please!

We are going to be SO much better than you SO much faster. That last game was just a taste of what's headed your way long-term.

TheGuardian 03-11-2010 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 6591597)
Then why do most of the teams that have made it to the superbowl over the past 20 or so years have at least one good #1 WR? Three of the last six Super Bowl MVP's have been WR's.

No one said a good WR, but you don't need some all world type WR. Solid WR's are good enough for a championship team. WR is the most overrated position on the entire offense.

Mile High Mania 03-11-2010 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6594938)
No one said a good WR, but you don't need some all world type WR. Solid WR's are good enough for a championship team. WR is the most overrated position on the entire offense.

Enh, I dunno about that... if you have a phenom at QB, sure may not need elite WRs.

TheGuardian 03-11-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6595060)
Enh, I dunno about that... if you have a phenom at QB, sure may not need elite WRs.

Like Drew Brees?

Point is, WR's generally don't carry teams to championships. QB's and defenses do for the most part.

Bwana 03-11-2010 09:38 AM

Million dollar talent, ten cent head............pass.


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