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Farzin 03-16-2010 11:28 AM

Lilja is a Chief per 810
 
THE DEAL IS DONE

CoMoChief 03-16-2010 11:29 AM

Lilja.....welcome back to Arrowhead. The home of 10,000 screaming fans.

DBOSHO 03-16-2010 11:30 AM

to the pool-noodle!

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 11:30 AM

http://twitter.com/TheprogramKC

DeezNutz 03-16-2010 11:30 AM

Whew.

O-line, fixed.

DMAC 03-16-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6607980)
Lilja.....welcome back to Arrowhead. The home of 10,000 screaming fans.

Yep...back to just being the home of the brave.

Good to have you back I guess, Lilja.

BigCatDaddy 03-16-2010 11:31 AM

This should cool off the drafting a LT talk since Albert won't be playing guard.

DBOSHO 03-16-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6607982)

you can change your location now

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6607994)
you can change your location now

Thanks for the reminder.

Frosty 03-16-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6607985)
This should cool off the drafting a LT talk since Albert won't be playing guard.

Now it will switch to moving Albert to RT. :rolleyes:

Coogs 03-16-2010 11:36 AM

Chambers
Jones
Wiegmann
Lilja

Solid offseason so far on the offensive side IMO.

DBOSHO 03-16-2010 11:36 AM

who was the other olineman we got besides lilja and weigmann? i forget

petegz28 03-16-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6607983)
Whew.

O-line, fixed.

Definitely upgraded. Lilja has played on 2 superbowl teams. That is more than anyone else on our team can say. Now the question is, WTF are they going to play him?

petegz28 03-16-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6608003)
Chambers
Jones
Wiegmann
Lilja

Solid offseason so far on the offensive side IMO.

Agreed. So far Scott has done a better than average job. And much better compared to last year.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6608003)
Chambers
Jones
Wiegmann
Lilja

Solid offseason so far on the offensive side IMO.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but they're definitely making some moves to try and give themselves more options going into the draft. At least I hope that's what it is.

Chiefnj2 03-16-2010 11:38 AM

Why is this a good move? Didn't he fail Indy's physical? Isn't he a bit undersized?

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6608003)
Chambers
Jones
Wiegmann
Lilja

Solid offseason so far on the offensive side IMO.

Three guys in their 30's and Lilja is solid?

Expectations must be at an all time low amongst the fan base.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6608013)
Why is this a good move? Didn't he fail Indy's physical? Isn't he a bit undersized?

It's a good move because Scott Pioli says so

ChiTown 03-16-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6608012)
I don't know if I'd go that far, but they're definitely making some moves to try and give themselves more options going into the draft. At least I hope that's what it is.

They're filling holes, and building depth. I got no problem with that.

corandval 03-16-2010 11:41 AM

Will he play LG and possibly move Waters to right, Lilja doesn't seem big enough to play RG

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-16-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6608007)
Definitely upgraded. Lilja has played on 2 superbowl teams. That is more than anyone else on our team can say. Now the question is, WTF are they going to play him?

Vrabel.

BryanBusby 03-16-2010 11:42 AM

Super Bowl here we come

DeezNutz 03-16-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608017)
Expectations must be at an all time low amongst the fan base.

What I was thinking.

Coogs 03-16-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608017)
Three guys in their 30's and Lilja is solid?

Expectations must be at an all time low amongst the fan base.

I didn't say great. However, these moves IMO allow us to focus more on the defensive side of the ball in this draft. That is why I rate it solid.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608022)
They're filling holes, and building depth. I got no problem with that.

That's pretty much how I see it.

DBOSHO 03-16-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608017)
Three guys in their 30's and Lilja is solid?

Expectations must be at an all time low amongst the fan base.

we get it, you hate the chiefs. go away

Wilson8 03-16-2010 11:43 AM

Shaun Smith was the DL that they signed.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-16-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6608012)
I don't know if I'd go that far, but they're definitely making some moves to try and give themselves more options going into the draft. At least I hope that's what it is.

We upgraded from signing STers to signing backups.

Reerun_KC 03-16-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608022)
They're filling holes, and building depth. I got no problem with that.

Agree, nice to see them do something......

Cant wait til the fall... This is going to be a fun season!

L.A. Chieffan 03-16-2010 11:46 AM

So what was all that shit about him not passing a physical? Was it bullshit?

Dave Lane 03-16-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6607985)
This should cool off the drafting a LT talk since Albert won't be playing guard.

Yeah because Lilja > LG than Albert

Marcellus 03-16-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608021)
It's a good move because Scott Pioli says so

What FA guard that is available other than Lilja should we have jumped on?

L.A. Chieffan 03-16-2010 11:49 AM

Are the Chiefs medical staff more lenient on players passing physicals than other teams? As long as they have a pulse are they good to go?

petegz28 03-16-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6608027)
Vrabel.

Are you equating Lilja to Vrabel?

BryanBusby 03-16-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6608058)
Are the Chiefs medical staff more lenient on players passing physicals than other teams? As long as they have a pulse are they good to go?

Pulse is optional. Afterall, Kendrell Bell got a contract.

warrior 03-16-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608022)
They're filling holes, and building depth. I got no problem with that.


Pretty much how I feel----gives the Chiefs more flexibility in the draft. :)

Delano 03-16-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6608052)
What FA guard that is available other than Lilja should we have jumped on?

There are some young guards on this team who need a shot to play with the first team. Not Indy's detritus.
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DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6608052)
What FA guard that is available other than Lilja should we have jumped on?

None.

The Chiefs have Ndukwe, Harris, Waters and Brown. That's four guards.

I'm not sure I see why they need five.

DeezNutz 03-16-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6608064)
Are you equating Lilja to Vrabel?

If some of the reports about Lilja's health are true, you might have just offended the latter broke dick.

petegz28 03-16-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6608081)
If some of the reports about Lilja's health are true, you might have just offended the latter broke dick.

Well, we shall see. I still think this is a move in the right direction. Is Lilja the best O-lineman out there? No. Does he upgrade this line if healthy. Yes.

suds79 03-16-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 6608078)
There are some young guards on this team who need a shot to play with the first team. Not Indy's detritus.
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They'll get that in training camp. May the best man win.

Marcellus 03-16-2010 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608079)
None.

The Chiefs have Ndukwe, Harris, Waters and Brown. That's four guards.

I'm not sure I see why they need five.


I am just guessing it is competition like anything else. He isn't going to break the bank and is likely a short term deal.

He also knows the zone blocking scheme we are now running which can't necessarily be said for the others. Especially the way they played last year.

warrior 03-16-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6608081)
If some of the reports about Lilja's health are true, you might have just offended the latter broke dick.


That's OK there's a lot of broke dicks in the DC forum. :D

alpha_omega 03-16-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6608013)
Why is this a good move? Didn't he fail Indy's physical?

I agree...i would like to hear some more information about this!!!!!

Delano 03-16-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6608086)
They'll get that in training camp. May the best man win.

You mean like last year when Lilja, oops, I mean Goff stole those valuable snaps?
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CoMoChief 03-16-2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6608007)
Definitely upgraded. Lilja has played on 2 superbowl teams. That is more than anyone else on our team can say. Now the question is, WTF are they going to play him?

Vrabel would like to see you.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6608090)
I am just guessing it is competition like anything else. He isn't going to break the bank and is likely a short term deal.

He also knows the zone blocking scheme we are now running which can't necessarily be said for the others. Especially the way they played last year.

Waters is declining but still far better than Lilja.

Ndukwe is truly a right guard and started the entire 2008 season for Miami at that position.

Colin Brown and Darryl Harris both looked very, very good at right and left guard during last year's preseason and Harris was called up to the 53 in December.

I'd like a Chiefs front office at some point in time draft young players and play them. I understand that they couldn't play Brown last year because they put him on IR but even with that said, I don't understand this signing.

And it most certainly isn't any cause for joy.

petegz28 03-16-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6608098)
Vrabel would like to see you.

I meant on the O-line. I should have clarified.

ChiTown 03-16-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608079)
None.

The Chiefs have Ndukwe, Harris, Waters and Brown. That's four guards.

I'm not sure I see why they need five.

My guess is that they don't know what they have yet with Harris and Brown - hence, bring in a proven vet in Lilja for competition. Obviously, they wouldn't have brought him in if they were comfy with their other G's.

kcfanXIII 03-16-2010 12:02 PM

this isn't a horrible signing, and it adds talent to a position that we can all agree needs improvement, oline. we all knew this would not be a great off season for FA, but at least scott & co are making an effort this year.

Jerm 03-16-2010 12:02 PM

3 yr deal according to Jason LaCanfora.
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Coogs 03-16-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608109)
My guess is that they don't know what they have yet with Harris and Brown - hence, bring in a proven vet in Lilja for competition. Obviously, they wouldn't have brought him in if they were comfy with their other G's.

This

DeezNutz 03-16-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608109)
My guess is that they don't know what they have yet with Harris and Brown.

Uh oh. Another "evaluation year"?

BigCatDaddy 03-16-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6608050)
Yeah because Lilja > LG than Albert

You don't pay Lija the kind of dough they probably paid to use him as a backup. Him and Waters are obviously going to be the starting guards.

keg in kc 03-16-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608104)
And it most certainly isn't any cause for joy.

It isn't, but I don't think it's a cause for sorrow either. It's a cheap body with a local connection. Nothing more, nothing less.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608109)
My guess is that they don't know what they have yet with Harris and Brown - hence, bring in a proven vet in Lilja for competition. Obviously, they wouldn't have brought him in if they were comfy with their other G's.

If your assumption is correct, why not re-sign Wade Smith?

He had his best season ever last year and seamless filled in at various spots along the line, while upgrading each position he played.

The offensive line was greatly improved when he started in place of Goff. The running game exploded and Cassel was only sacked 8 times in the last six games.

ChiTown 03-16-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608121)
If your assumption is correct, why not re-sign Wade Smith?

He had his best season ever last year and seamless filled in at various spots along the line, while upgrading each position he played.

The offensive line was greatly improved when he started in place of Goff. The running game exploded and Cassel was only sacked 8 times in the last six games.

I liked Wade Smith as well - I especially liked his versatility along the line. I can't answer the question as to why he left. I can only speculate - and quite frankly, who cares what I think.

KCUnited 03-16-2010 12:07 PM

Lil' JA

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6608130)
I liked Wade Smith as well - I especially liked his versatility along the line. I can't answer the question as to why he left. I can only speculate - and quite frankly, who cares what I think.

Well, I care.

That's what we're all here for.

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608017)
Three guys in their 30's and Lilja is solid?

Expectations must be at an all time low amongst the fan base.

Oh great Dane Hates the move:rolleyes: Billay is on Danes nuts again :rolleyes:/ The peoples church true chiefs fan.

LaChapelle 03-16-2010 12:11 PM

You can't make the club from the tub
but you might be able to go back to the '80s

RedThat 03-16-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608121)
If your assumption is correct, why not re-sign Wade Smith?

He had his best season ever last year and seamless filled in at various spots along the line, while upgrading each position he played.

The offensive line was greatly improved when he started in place of Goff. The running game exploded and Cassel was only sacked 8 times in the last six games.

I certainly was disappointed when they didn't re-sign W. Smith.

But my guess is the signings of Wiegman and Lilja are examples of players who are products of the system we are going to run under Charlie Weis.

I think thats the plan. Finding the right role players that are suitable for a particular scheme. Players who understand and know their role within the scheme more than anything.

We are going to be more of zone blocking team. I think thats the direction they're headed. Wiegman excels under that scheme, and so does Lilja. the scheme the Chiefs are going to run is best and properly suited to the strengths of those players.

Coogs 03-16-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608121)
If your assumption is correct, why not re-sign Wade Smith?

I think filling the vacancy left by losing Wade Smith was huge. IDK if Lilja fills that role exactly, but maybe with the Wiegmann and Lilja signing, it frees us someone like Rudy to fill that void.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-16-2010 12:13 PM

Wade Smith was too expensive, and if Lilja got paid that much, Pioli is a ****ing mong.

Quesadilla Joe 03-16-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:


Following up: Ryan Lilja's deal with the Chiefs is for three years
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/10580491689

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6608151)
I certainly was disappointed when they didn't re-sign W. Smith.

But my guess is the signings of Wiegman and Lilja are examples of players who are products of the system we are going to run under Charlie Weis.

I think thats the plan. Finding the right role players that are suitable for a particular scheme. Players who understand and know their role within the scheme more than anything.

We are going to be more of zone blocking team. I think thats the direction they're headed. Wiegman excels under that scheme, and so does Lilja. the scheme the Chiefs are going to run is best and properly suited to the strengths of those players.

Yeah but they're old.

Weigman is 37 years old. Lilja is only 28 but broken down.

If Weigman's signing means the end of Niswanger, good. But Lilja's signing only complicates the situation at guard because the young guys need to start.

ChiTown 03-16-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608138)
Well, I care.

That's what we're all here for.

OK, my personal opinion is that they didn't like him as a Guard. He's going into his 8th or 9th season as a player who has played a lot of positions in the NFL along the OL (including LT and C). They wanted to focus more on players who were true OG's, and he just didn't fit the bill in their system. That's just my opinion.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6608153)
I think filling the vacancy left by losing Wade Smith was huge. IDK if Lilja fills that role exactly, but maybe with the Wiegmann and Lilja signing, it frees us someone like Rudy to fill that void.

I truly wish that "Rudy" would never, ever, ever suit up for the Chiefs again.

EVER.

Coogs 03-16-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608158)
But Lilja's signing only complicates the situation at guard because the young guys need to start.

If the young guys need to start, then they should be able to earn that right this full offseason and training camp. If not, then it is good to have a backup plan in place, and Lilja at the very worst should provide that security blanket.

Coogs 03-16-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608161)
I truly wish that "Rudy" would never, ever, ever suit up for the Chiefs again.

EVER.

Actually, that would be my wish as well.

BigCatDaddy 03-16-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608158)
Yeah but they're old.

Weigman is 37 years old. Lilja is only 28 but broken down.

If Weigman's signing means the end of Niswanger, good. But Lilja's signing only complicates the situation at guard because the young guys need to start.

And with the way offensive lineman go down I'm sure we will see the younger kids get there chance.

BryanBusby 03-16-2010 12:20 PM

Wait....I thought Lilja hated the Chiefs?

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 12:27 PM

Was the Bon Jovi concert the deal breaker for Lilja?

Jerm 03-16-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6608185)
Was the Bon Jovi concert the deal breaker for Lilja?

It was meeting Trace Adkins.

kcxiv 03-16-2010 12:30 PM

Dane hates everything the Chiefs do. So what its for depth. They gotta start and sign somewhere. Maybe they didn't ****ing like Wade Smith all that much. They see alot more of him then we do.

IF this helps the line then so be it. This team is already very young, so we signed a few older guys big ****ing deal. Alot of the older guys are interchangeable after seasons end anyways. YOu always have to have that mixture anyways.

its not like we were going to go 12-4 into the play offs. If this is the way they want to build their team with their vision so be it., I will reserve judgement until i see how it works. They do deserve that much.

If people dont want to give them that much, well thats your ****ing problem.

BossChief 03-16-2010 12:31 PM

I like this signing.

It gives us good depth at worst and means that we are less likely to take a OL with our top pick.

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 6608196)
Dane hates everything the Chiefs do. So what its for depth. They gotta start and sign somewhere. Maybe they didn't ****ing like Wade Smith all that much. They see alot more of him then we do.

IF this helps the line then so be it. This team is already very young, so we signed a few older guys big ****ing deal. Alot of the older guys are interchangeable after seasons end anyways. YOu always have to have that mixture anyways.

its not like we were going to go 12-4 into the play offs. If this is the way they want to build their team with their vision so be it., I will reserve judgement until i see how it works. They do deserve that much.

If people dont want to give them that much, well thats your ****ing problem.

Here it goes with the dumbassness. "Maybe they didn't like Wade smith that much". Yea a guy who can play 3 positions on the line and play them good sucks.

dirk digler 03-16-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6608201)
I like this signing.

It gives us good depth at worst and means that we are less likely to take a OL with our top pick.

Kind of where I am at.

DeezNutz 03-16-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6608201)
I like this signing.

It gives us good depth at worst and means that we are less likely to take a OL with our top pick.

I have serious doubts about the wisdom of this signing, but, if the bold is true, Pioli backed his way into a solid decision.

Ryan long snapper Lilja, FTMFW.

dirk digler 03-16-2010 12:37 PM

Lilja has been a starter for 4 straight years with one of the best teams in the NFL while Wade Smith has been a career backup. I don't get the comparison.


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