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jAZ 04-21-2010 09:58 AM

Schefter: Steelers Contacting Teams to Trade Big Ben for Top 10 pick
 
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Pittsburgh has begun contacting teams to trade Ben Roethlisberger for a top 10 pick. At least one team considering it. Story far from done.

Direckshun 04-21-2010 09:59 AM

Seriously, is it even a mystery who that team is?

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:00 AM

Rams - Yes
Lions - No
Bucs - No
Redskins - No
Chiefs - Better ****ing not be.
Seahawks - No
Browns - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Bills - Yes
Jaguars - Maybe

ToxSocks 04-21-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691441)
Rams - Yes
Lions - No
Bucs - No
Redskins - No
Chiefs - Better ****ing not be.
Seahawks - No
Browns - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Bills - Yes
Jaguars - Maybe

If the Raiders landed Roethlisberger that would be a ****ing nightmare.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:02 AM

I would put the top 3 teams that would go after him as:

1. Rams
2. Browns
3. Bills

ToxSocks 04-21-2010 10:03 AM

What the Steelers should've done was held onto Holmes and traded both of their asses to St.Louis so they could draft Bradford.

Red Brooklyn 04-21-2010 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691441)
Rams - Yes
Lions - No
Bucs - No
Redskins - No
Chiefs - Better ****ing not be.
Seahawks - No
Browns - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Bills - Yes
Jaguars - Maybe

This

-King- 04-21-2010 10:05 AM

I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.


Raiders are probably the team that's interested.
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jAZ 04-21-2010 10:05 AM

ESPN also had the Broncos taking Jimmy Claussen.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6691463)
ESPN also had the Broncos taking Jimmy Claussen.

I'd be ****ing pissed. Quinn AND Clausen on the Broncos.....:cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts 04-21-2010 10:06 AM

I'd love to have Big Ben if I was totally confident he wasn't a rapist. I'm not saying I believe the claims, but once is a coincidence. After the second time, the alarms are going off.

Deberg_1990 04-21-2010 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6691462)
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger

:facepalm:

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:07 AM

The Bills should be on the phone with the Steelers right now. With Big Ben they have at least a minimal shot at winning a divisional game.

keg in kc 04-21-2010 10:09 AM

Steelers: He's going to be suspended for 4-6 games. We'll let you have him for a top-10 pick.

Suckers: Sweet!

Deberg_1990 04-21-2010 10:09 AM

my guess is, they would want to trade him out of conference..

that leaves Rams and Seahawks...

BUt i guess that didnt stop the Eagles..

swayy07 04-21-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691450)
I would put the top 3 teams that would go after him as:

1. Rams
2. Browns
3. Bills

as long as its no one in our division i dont really care who gets him.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:10 AM

Why does everyone think that the Seahawks are going to trade or draft a QB? They already traded for Whitehurst.

-King- 04-21-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6691469)
:facepalm:

Sorry. He's not a tier 1 qb. I'd take Manning, Brees, Rivers, Brady, and Shaub over him.
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buddha 04-21-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691465)
I'd be ****ing pissed. Quinn AND Clausen on the Broncos.....:cuss:

Are you a Domer? Two overrated Domer QBs on the same team...why would we care?

As for "Pig Ben" don't the Raiders already have one gigantic slob playing QB for them? Now they need two of them?

Roth is broken...a GM should be fired for trading away a top 10 pick for this arse.

Mr. Flopnuts 04-21-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691483)
Why does everyone think that the Seahawks are going to trade or draft a QB? They already traded for Whitehurst.

And they're not exactly paying him back up money.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 6691487)
Are you a Domer? Two overrated Domer QBs on the same team...why would we care?

As for "Pig Ben" don't the Raiders already have one gigantic slob playing QB for them? Now they need two of them?

Roth is broken...a GM should be fired for trading away a top 10 pick for this arse.

The Anti-Irish hate is strong in this one.

buddha 04-21-2010 10:13 AM

Well...yes. However, it's been a LONG time since a Notre Dame QB was relevant in the NFL.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 6691497)
Well...yes. However, it's been a LONG time since a Notre Dame QB was relevant in the NFL.

And you're a fan of?

Brock 04-21-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6691484)
Sorry. He's not a tier 1 qb. I'd take Manning, Brees, Rivers, Brady, and Shaub over him.
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Schaub? I guess we can safely ignore your opinions about QBs then.

Hootie 04-21-2010 10:16 AM

this is a no-brainer

COchief 04-21-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6691462)
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.

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Seriously, you are on a football BB. Did you happen to watch either of his SB victories? The drive against the Cardinals and the winning TD pass didn't impress you???

He is kind of a fat idiot (motorcycle incident + women issues), but you cannot argue against his production on the field, especially the postseason.

:spock:

Mr. Laz 04-21-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691501)
And you're a fan of?

Notre Lamer
Notre Lamer
Notre Lamer



PBJ

DaKCMan AP 04-21-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6691484)
Sorry. He's not a tier 1 qb. I'd take Shaub over him.
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:spock:

buddha 04-21-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691501)
And you're a fan of?

QBs who can actually play in the NFL. :D

notorious 04-21-2010 10:27 AM

Trade for him.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 6691541)
QBs who can actually play in the NFL. :D

Well that rules out Kansas and Mizzou.

-King- 04-21-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 6691520)
Seriously, you are on a football BB. Did you happen to watch either of his SB victories? The drive against the Cardinals and the winning TD pass didn't impress you???

He is kind of a fat idiot (motorcycle incident + women issues), but you cannot argue against his production on the field, especially the postseason.

:spock:

Yeah he's had some great plays. But he's also had ones that make you say WTF? He's a great qb, but not top tier.
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buddha 04-21-2010 10:33 AM

Neither have been any worse than Notre Dame post Montana.

-King- 04-21-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6691505)
Schaub? I guess we can safely ignore your opinions about QBs then.

Sure.
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The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:35 AM

Yep....ND sure sucks.

Quote:

Notre Dame has the 3rd highest winning percentage in NCAA history (.736), behind only Michigan and the Texas Longhorns (.737).

As of the end of the 2009 football season, Notre Dame has the 3rd most wins in NCAA history (837), trailing only Michigan (877) and Texas (845). Notre Dame also has the fewest losses of any program (291) (minimum 800 games played).

Notre Dame has 102 winning seasons in 121 years of football, and only 13 losing seasons.

The football program is tied with USC for most Heisman trophy winners at seven (Ohio State has seven Heisman trophies that were won by six players).

Notre Dame has produced more All-Americans (99), consensus All-Americans (80) and unanimous All-Americans (31) in football than any other college program.

Notre Dame is represented by 48 players and coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame, the most of any university.

Ten former players are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, second only to USC(11). Notre Dame has produced the largest number of players to go on to play in the National Football League of any program in the country. As of the 2008 NFL draft, 463 players have been drafted.

BigMeatballDave 04-21-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6691462)
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.


Raiders are probably the team that's interested.
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The dumbassery is strong with this one...

buddha 04-21-2010 10:39 AM

Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level.

You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.

Rain Man 04-21-2010 10:39 AM

It's really, really tempting, but he'll be 29 by the time he starts his first full season with us.

Even with that, it's really, really tempting. The key would be whether a half-dozen games off will make him grow up or will make him go even more immature. I'd lean more toward assuming it'll make him grow up, but either way a suspension will have an impact on him, and the downside risk would be bad.

5 years of a top-notch quarterback for a first-round pick probably isn't horrible value, though. If we could make it conditional somehow, I'd probably do it.

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 6691575)
Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level.

You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.

I'd rather have Clausen or Quinn than ****ing Matt Cassel.

Sure-Oz 04-21-2010 10:40 AM

I'd take him but im not sure for the #5, but he is a damn good QB

Dante84 04-21-2010 10:41 AM

He would be a perfect fit with the Raiders, and I think that's what's going to happen.

notorious 04-21-2010 10:41 AM

Let's avoid getting a Franchise QB, God forbid we might actually win something.

BigMeatballDave 04-21-2010 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691564)
Yep....ND sure sucks.

Sorry, but that program hasn't been relevant since the 90s

The Bad Guy 04-21-2010 10:42 AM

I'd trade for him. I imagine Cleveland is the one offering the 7th pick.

If that did happen, I would then trade out of 5 - down to around 7, 8 or 9 and would still be able to get Berry there.

Seattle will take Okung if he's still there at 6.

Sure-Oz 04-21-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6691587)
I'd trade for him. I imagine Cleveland is the one offering the 7th pick.

If that did happen, I would then trade out of 5 - down to around 7, 8 or 9 and would still be able to get Berry there.

Seattle will take Okung if he's still there at 6.

Micheal Smith seems to think Okung will be available to us and we would take him, i just want this draft to start already.

notorious 04-21-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6691589)
Micheal Smith seems to think Okung will be available to us and we would take him, i just want this draft to start already.

Michael Smith needs to get an antifreeze enema.

keg in kc 04-21-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691564)
Yep....ND sure sucks.

They do.

And so does Michigan.

Which just happens to be the team I follow. :facepalm:

Looking back at the "long, storied history" doesn't make the last decade go away.

And I'm a Chiefs fan. Misery.

"There's always next year".

Chiefnj2 04-21-2010 10:45 AM

I'm shocked at the voting. I thought it would be a landslide in favor of getting him.

Plus, he agreed to a new contract in 2008. KC would have him wrapped up for quite a while and wouldn't have to pay out a large signing bonus.

notorious 04-21-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6691599)
I'm shocked at the voting. I thought it would be a landslide in favor of getting him.

True Fans

The Franchise 04-21-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6691598)
They do.

And so does Michigan.

Which just happens to be the team I follow. :facepalm:

Looking back at the "long, storied history" doesn't make the last decade go away.

And I'm a Chiefs fan. Misery.

"There's always next year".

Hey....at least you can beat us. You've got that going for you.

buddha 04-21-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6691579)
I'd rather have Clausen or Quinn than ****ing Matt Cassel.

I'd take Cassel over Quinn, but Brady could still turn it around. Stranger things have happened.

I would bet that Clausen will be the best of the three.

Titty Meat 04-21-2010 10:48 AM

Weren't people saying Big Ben was one of the best QB's in the leagu last year?

Chiefnj2 04-21-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6691602)
True Fans

Some of the true fans voting against it are guys rallying for Clausen.

notorious 04-21-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 6691611)
I'd take Cassel over Quinn, but Brady could still turn it around. Stranger things have happened.

I would bet that Clausen will be the best of the three.

What is the word I am looking for?



Oh ya.


This.

patteeu 04-21-2010 10:49 AM

I voted "yes" based on ability, but only if I was confident that his rape issues were behind him (and I don't really see how we could be confident about that at this point).

Petro just mentioned his concussion history which I hadn't thought about. That's a concern too.

Otter 04-21-2010 10:50 AM

What the **** are the Steelers thinking?

philfree 04-21-2010 10:51 AM

The guy is a complete idiot and maybe worse so while I want to win I wouldn't want to have to cheer for him to get those wins. He needs to check in with Tiger a the rehab center.

PhilFree:arrow:

Sure-Oz 04-21-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6691594)
Michael Smith needs to get an antifreeze enema.

He was saying 'well i know pioli will play it safe' blah blah

im nervous just a bit

notorious 04-21-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6691614)
Some of the true fans voting against it are guys rallying for Clausen.

I noticed, I want Clausen badly, too, but I would rather get a guy that is a proven franchise QB then a guy that's got a OK shot at becoming one.


No biggie. No way Ben is coming here, he would fit in like an elephant on an ant hill.

the Talking Can 04-21-2010 10:51 AM

weird as hell, this draft could get...


talent alone, i'd trade for him....he'd make our offense instantly top notch...he's about as clutch as there is in the nfl


but i also personally think he his a scumbag who has most likely forced himself on more than 1 woman....

notorious 04-21-2010 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6691630)
He was saying 'well i know pioli will play it safe' blah blah

im nervous just a bit

I know, it's not Smith's fault that our GM is like he is.


I am projecting my flustration at the messenger instead of the source. :)

BigChiefFan 04-21-2010 10:56 AM

Great QB, too bad he's a prick to women. As talented as he is, there's no room for his antics.

buddha 04-21-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6691635)
weird as hell, this draft could get...


talent alone, i'd trade for him....he'd make our offense instantly top notch...he's about as clutch as there is in the nfl


but i also personally think he his a scumbag who has most likely forced himself on more than 1 woman....


Would you be willing to trade the #5 pick for him all things considered? If not, and I'm guessing the answer is no, what do you think would be fair compensation at this point?

Chiefnj2 04-21-2010 10:58 AM

Put him in Oakland and he's either arrested again within 6 months, or the Raiders become a dangerous team the next few years.

noa 04-21-2010 10:58 AM

He's young and he's a winner, which is something that's hard to come by, but he's also an idiot off the field. Even if he never raped anyone, he was doing stupid shit. Maybe this suspension will put his head on straight, but I'd be afraid, so I voted no.

However, I would feel much happier trading our pick for him and signing him to a long term contract than investing tons of money in some of the other draft options that have been discussed.

Saccopoo 04-21-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6691620)
I voted "yes" based on ability, but only if I was confident that his rape issues were behind him (and I don't really see how we could be confident about that at this point).

Petro just mentioned his concussion history which I hadn't thought about. That's a concern too.

What do you mean rape issue behind him? Guys have gotten 40 years in prison for the same shit this ****ing ass clown has done. Where's the rehabilitation other than a fat ****ing paycheck to buy off the victims?

Rape issues behind him? Has he submitted himself to any psychological counseling? Has he worked in any battered women's shelters? What ****ing remorse has this one who sucks the penis shown and what has he done to show that his penchant for molesting women is in his past? Not one ****ing thing, that's what.

**** this ****ing dildo.

Coogs 04-21-2010 11:00 AM

Straight up #5 for Ben? No for me. Ben and a swap of #5 for #18... then I would consider it.

keg in kc 04-21-2010 11:01 AM

If the options were "Roethlisberger or Okung/Williams", then I would change my vote to "yes".

Anything but a ****ing offensive tackle.

</post> 04-21-2010 11:01 AM

I don't like the guy as a person, but we should be considering it. I think he's worth it as a player. Although, we would have more leverage than the #5 straight up, IMO. 4-6 game suspension, they want to unload him, future risk, etc. We'd probably be able to get some picks back.

Saccopoo 04-21-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6691635)
weird as hell, this draft could get...


talent alone, i'd trade for him....he'd make our offense instantly top notch...he's about as clutch as there is in the nfl


but i also personally think he his a scumbag who has most likely forced himself on more than 1 woman....

I fail to see how the one guy in the league who holds onto the ball longer than Matt Cassel would make this offense top notch behind our "stellar" offensive line and receiving corps.

tooge 04-21-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6691467)
I'd love to have Big Ben if I was totally confident he wasn't a rapist. I'm not saying I believe the claims, but once is a coincidence. After the second time, the alarms are going off.

whenever I read or hear the word "rapist" I can't help but think of Pulp Fiction.

</post> 04-21-2010 11:03 AM

or we could just draft a QB...

notorious 04-21-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6691674)
If the options were "Roethlisberger or Okung/Williams", then I would change my vote to "yes".

Anything but a ****ing offensive tackle.

Well put.

RJ 04-21-2010 11:09 AM

They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

CosmicPal 04-21-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6691697)
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

This. :clap:

the Talking Can 04-21-2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6691679)
I fail to see how the one guy in the league who holds onto the ball longer than Matt Cassel would make this offense top notch behind our "stellar" offensive line and receiving corps.

that's because you're a clueless dumbass

we have a better running back than he's ever had, and he'd make Bowe and Chambers look like real WRs because he is accurate unlike Cassel


and since you've obviously never watched him play, he doesn't go down like a pussy the way Cassel does...he does not have a great ol in pittsburgh, he simply extends plays in a way that no other QB in the league is capable of....

you're just a rare breed of fuktard

Chiefnj2 04-21-2010 11:12 AM

The closest KC came to sniffing a Super Bowl in the last 39 years was when they traded for a two time Super Bowl winning QB.

BillSelfsTrophycase 04-21-2010 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6691697)
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

Exactly, swap first rounders to get him and I'd do it. #5 straight up, no ****ing way

DaWolf 04-21-2010 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6691706)
The closest KC came to sniffing a Super Bowl in the last 39 years was when they traded for a two time Super Bowl winning QB.

Four time.

the Talking Can 04-21-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 6691652)
Would you be willing to trade the #5 pick for him all things considered? If not, and I'm guessing the answer is no, what do you think would be fair compensation at this point?

he's worth it...


and i can't believe i'm saying this based on how bad we need a QB, but i personally wouldn't trade for him....i'm not making a rapist the face of my franchise....

i didn't like lj for the way he treated women, this is a whole other degree of wrongness


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