Thoughts on last night, and looking forward...
 

Great. ****ing. Pick.

This kid is going to be a superstar. His play and versatility is well documented, so I'm going to focus on the off the field stuff I noticed that makes me like this pick even more.

Anyone notice that almost every prospect in the green room had a watch the size of a ****ing dinner plate, and a ton of bling?

Not EB. Dud looked like he was wearing a $50 Seiko.

The story of helping the equipment guys also shows how humble this kid is. There's no doubt in my mind this kid is going to work his ass off to be the best FS in the league. This secondary is going to be sick when we get some pass rushing help.


Moving on....


Clausen. Part of me is pissed because they didn't move back up into the late 1st to grab him - but part of me thinks they've made the right move by keeping their picks because they think he'll still be there at 36. Cleveland and Carolina are both rumored to prefer Colt McCoy. Minnesota isn't going to take him, and I think they'll move back again if they can. They wanted Patrick Robinson and were sniped by the Saints.

Kindle. Microfracture surgery? Pass.

Otherwise, there are some great prospects that should be available here. I just hope they continue to take playmakers and leave the fat guys to the later rounds. Benn would be a nice R2 pick, as would Daryl Washington, Golden Tate, etc.

Rest of the AFC West.

Oakland taking McClain at 8 changed the entire draft. It's a big reach, IMO - and it makes no sense to take this kid and kick Kirk Morrison to the curb, but it's Oakland - they never do anything that makes sense.

WTF is AJ Smith thinking? Ryan Matthews is a great pick, but why mortgage your draft to move up 16 spots to get him? You can't convince me that anyone before Houston was going to take him. Huge waste of resources.

Denver. Oh, Denver. You made my night. At first you scared me, because you were stockpiling picks. Then you took Thomas, which was an excellent move. Then when you traded up, I figured it was for Dan Williams, which would have been another solid move.

Then I see the cutaway to Tim Tebow on the phone, and laugh my balls off.

Thanks for the laughs, Josh. I'm looking forward to more tonight.



Tonight really is huge for this franchise. Pioli gets an A thus far, but these next three picks are going to be the make-or-break for the future of this franchise, IMO. Hit on them, and things are looking great. Miss? I don't even want to think about it.

Get it done, Scott.

Berry brings charisma to the team. The guy has been the best player on the field his whole damn life. And he will be on the Chiefs D.


can't love it enough

Gawd Josh Mc****tard sucks. And I think I'll pass on Kindle too. Sucks though.

C'mon, Clausen!

Claussen and Tate would rock and roll.

Yep.

I'll get flamed for this, but it makes me hate the fact we gave away Pollard even more.

I'd love to get Chad Jones later in this draft.

Pollard+Berry would've been so sweet.

Pretty good summary.

I just want a good NT(hopefully cody), good lb( hopefully spikes)
and a good reciever(tate, benn, byrd) and id consider this draft a huge success.

Mays if hes there at 50 intrigues me. Having mays AND berry would be sick, but he looks like a fast bernard pollard. All armtackles

my imagination runs rampant w/ all the looks having berry on the field will give KC.

My Draft Thoughts;

1. Sam Bradford the consensus #1 QB is taken 1st and wakes up to find Tebow's picture plastered over every sporting site and newspaper. Motivation?

2. Lions - how long until Gunther Cunningham ruins Suh?

3. In 2 years McDaniel will be a draft genius or have gone full reerun. Thomas over Dez and Tebow over Clausen and McCoy?

4. I'm glad Dez ended up in Dallas. Jerry wanted the kid and won't have a problem spending some money giving him some off field support.

5. I guess Peter Carroll likes Texas players better than his own USC guys.

6. I wouldn't be shocked if 4 years from now Indy ended up with the best 1st round draft pick.

7. The NYG love pass rushers. Even extremely raw pass rushers.

8. Rex Ryan will have the best trio of corners in the league. He can leave them alone to bump and run, and blitz the crap out of opposing QBs. The Dolphins and Bills better get accustomed to using their hot reads very often.

Oh, and what in the blue **** was Jacksonville thinking last night?

Teams like them and Denver are the reason there are still some kick-ass prospects available early tonight.

The run on CBs and DTs is the reason so much other talent fell.

While I agree that the McClain pick had some impact, I think the Jags pick of Alualu had an even bigger impact.

The end of the round last night saw some EXCELLENT picks.

Wilson to the Jets is highway ****ing robbery. If Cromartie plays to even 70% of his potential, they are going to be nasty in the back end.

I'm with you, Jerry Hughes was a great selection for Indy.

And thus far, Detroit is winning the draft. The move up to get Best was very savvy.

Great thread OTW :clap:

Last night was great on so many levels.

I wanted to see Wilson in the second, was hearing it could happen too, and then bam, the ****ing defender-hogs rolled up.:cuss:

Agreed. That pick still has me stumped.

Clausen FTW!

Am I missing something or did you guys just forget how often Pollard went to blow up a guy and totally missed tackles? I wish maybe they could have taught him how to wrap up better, but it is what it is. Of course, Brown really wasn't much of an upgrade, either. Perhaps the Chiefs will draft another safety.

I'm really shocked he lasted as long as he did.

I think Houston made a HUGE mistake taking Jackson over him.

JAX, SD, and Denver were the big losers last night AFAIC. I pretty much said the same thing as you in the draft thread. That trade AJ made was a huge reach.

While I'm not on the McClain bandwagon, and it was somewhat of a head scratcher, I think Oakland made one of their better 1st round picks in the last few years. LMAO

i feel sorry for spiller going to a frozen shithole

and I can't believe the Pats passed on Hughes and let him drop to the Colts

Witherspoon to ATL was a great pick for them

Why not just take ****ing Tebow and sell the season tickets? And does anyone really think they couldn't have gotten Alualu in the 2nd round? 3rd?

I really don't want this to turn into a Pollard argument, but he didn't seem to have that problem in Houston. Which leads me to believe that coaching matters.

Good stuff OTW.

Heh heh. I think that says more about how awful Oakland's 1st rounders have been over the past several years than how good it was this year. I hope Al Davis lives forever. :D

I like Chad Jones, but I'd rather get Major Wright. Berry and Wright are both althetically sick, ball-hawks who love to hit. Even more, both can play either safety position. In certain packages Berry would be able to move to corner and play man-to-man coverage on a WR while Wright would move into the FS role. Our secondary would be ridiculous.

I'll have to take your word for it as I didn't really follow much NFL last year (except the Chiefs). Yeah, Gunther's defensive coaching ability has "jumped the shark".

Arrelious Benn for the Wenn

LMAO Absolutely. May the old codger live to 160.

It made the night even better sitting next to a Bronco fan friend at the bar as the Tebow pick came in.

We were talking about the Patriots a good part of the night.

We all thought they were just owning the draft, because they kept trading down, and we all figured they'd still get their man - Hughes.

Shocked they passed on him, but I understand the McCourty pick.

I'd be the biggest homer on this board....but I'd JIMP for Clausen and Tate in the 2nd round.

OTWP58,

I agree that the Vikings will not take Clausen. My buddy is huge Viking fan and he thinks they're need safety help more than anything. Plus, I also agree with Steve Marriucci's take. He thinks the Vikings are set up to be in a win now mode where they could use a player or two to make them real strong contenders. Makes sense to me because I see Favre coming back for at least a year or two, that, and they seem to still believe in Tavarris Jackson.

I had this thought today that if the Chiefs passed on Clausen, the only other teams that worry me are Cleveland and Buffalo. But now that you mentioned Colt McCoy, I never thought of him. I think he could go to Cleveland, but, IF the Chiefs let Clausen pass, I think Buffalo could take him. jmo...The only reason I say that, is, they tried really hard to move up and trade for Tebow. They were the reason Denver offered so much to Baltimore. Could Buffalo still be thinking QB? Even despite losing out on Tebow?

Yep. Buffalo is the team that worries me.

Replace Tate with Benn and I am with you. Although I doubt Benn will last until 2b and there is a better chance Tate will be available at that point. A WR combo of Benn and Bowe could be lethal, they are both big and fast, and Benn offers the ability to catch anything thrown in his zipcode and he blocks like an animal.

****her was never the defensive genius that Chiefs fans thought he was.

He has always been an overblown blow hard, and Jim (Logical, RIP) and I were saying from the start when he was rehired that he woudn't be able to fix that defense.

Anyone want to argue that we were wrong?

I actually think Clausen would make a great situation for the Chiefs.

#1 it sends a message to Cassel. This is the year he either puts up or shuts up. By drafting a QB his back is against the wall, it creates more competition in camp and it will truly demonstate how he performs under pressure.

#2 Drafting Clausen makes the Charlie Weis hiring even more appealing. What better guy to have in coaching a young quarterback who knows his ins and outs better than anyone else. In other words, Chiefs have the right coach to develop Clausen.

#3. I look at it this way, if the Chiefs draft Clausen, and Cassel steps it up by having a good year, its a bonus! Makes things better for next year. It sets the Chiefs up in a great situation by knowing you have a quarterback in Cassel and a potential quarterback in Clausen. Cassel could be a possible trade bait for a team that is looking for a quarterback? Hey you never know? And if the worst case scenario happens, where Cassel sucks, at least you have another option to look forward to with better upside and talent.

*There are a lot of good scenarios that could come out of this

I disagree with the Best selection.

He's a good player, just like Pettigrew was, but at some point, you have to get a left tackle to protect Matt Stafford.

Charles Brown, Saffold, or Bruce Campbell would have all been superior selections, and they weren't reaches.

I think New England really cocked up their draft. Trading down is, for the most part, overrated unless you are getting 1sts or 2nds at some point, or a third that year. The Patriots have far fewer holes than draft picks and a lack of impact players on their defense, and when it came time for their selection, I think they took the 5th or 6th best CB in the draft.

I think that Belichick has become so used to trading down that he's oblivious to the value that is staring him right in the face.

I'd like to see Mays, Lee, Tate, Benn, Washington or Gilyard with 2a and 2b.

For some reason, I just have a feeling that they won't take Clausen.

Yeah I didn't agree with the Best pick either. Although I do like him as a player, but I think they should of went OT.

Fair point on Best. I can respect that opinion.

I just like the fact they are trying to improve their team by taking playmakers, and not drafting based solely on need.

Great post. I was texting Pest last night and said some of the same things. He brought up some good later round prospects that was a good point. But I thought them moving up was for a tackle. They have to get that done.

Do you think Lee could fall to early 3rd? Some people think he can. I think if he does, he'd be great value in the 3rd round.

The nice thing about left tackle:

It wasn't a reach, and it obviates the playmakers of Green Bay, Minnesota, and Chicago, while letting your franchise remain....well, living.

Kind of hard to argue that a coach isn't pretty good when his defense is tops in the league twice in a 3 year span. That being said, I don't think he was a genius by any means.

nothing like tuning into kc radio and listening to Petro and his miserable crew talk about how they "kind of like" the pick of Berry


and then spend 20 minutes whining about how dumb fans are for thinking he's "going to be better than Ed Reed"...even though no fan has ever said such a thing


god Petro is a whiny piece of shit, and kc radio is a disaster....

it sounds like goth kids in a smoking pit at high school complaining about the cool kids

If I'm the Lions....I'm trading back into the 2nd round and grabbing Brown or Campbell. Suh, Best and Campbell would make for a ****ing awesome draft.

They could be planning something like that, or feel that they are close to a deal for Gaither or Jamaal Brown.

If they pull that off, they're about set. That team is really starting to draft well. But I can't honestly say that until they protect Stafford.

I agree with all of this and would add one other thing. Even though I do like Clausen, I like the(likely) available QBs in next years draft a little better. But, if the Chiefs were to take Clausen this year they would be in prime position to get one of the big 3 WRs next year. If they wait for a QBOTF until next year, it would be virtually impossible to get one of the big 3 WRs.

I think that ****her was the best defensive puppet that Marty ever had.

But even with that, ****her did more to contain Derek Thomas than any opponent ever did.

He found a way to really highlight DT's weakness against the run, and minimze his full impact as a pass rusher.

I hope KC takes Tate with 2a. Tate made Clausen look better than he is, and Cassell could use a quick underneath receiver who could be used similar to Wes Walker.

Anyone else sold on Everson Griffen based upon all those USC linebackers from last year? I know thats a silly reason but the guy produced last year and has alot of upisde.

Your not taking Tate with #36 and then expecting Claussen to be there at #50. Someone will pick Claussen before #50.

I hope they take Clausen BRC. It's time to get that quarterback we've been missing for years.

ESPN's second round mock has us taking Bruce Campbell with our second second rounder. Any chance he is still undrafted at that spot?

That's okay. I want Tate over Clausen. KC can grab a ROT, ILB or NT at 50.

I'd guess he goes to the Raiders in the 2nd round.

If they go WR with 2a, I would prefer Benn if he is available, although I do like Tate, just not at 36. Benn is a first-round talent that was ruined in his final year at Illinois because of terrible coaching and a QB that couldn't hit water from a boat. Going into his junior year, he was projected top-10 in many mocks.

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I agree. I'm not sold on Clausen but Weis is and he's got a lot more football knowledge than myself.

i was thinking the same thing

2nd round = Clausen,Tate,Best available Nose tackle

Notre Dame Homer! :D

LMAO


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