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ChiefaRoo 04-23-2010 09:59 PM

All of the Chiefs Draft Picks were leaders on their respective teams
 
High energy and character guys who commanded respect on their teams.

the Talking Can 04-23-2010 10:00 PM

like tebow?

milkman 04-23-2010 10:00 PM

Outstanding.

When we go right into the crapper, at least we have players to lead us there.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:01 PM

Eric Hicks must be proud.

LaChapelle 04-23-2010 10:02 PM

Were any of them "silverbacks"
or kissers of men on the mouth
**** no

ChiefaRoo 04-23-2010 10:02 PM

After having LJ, Battle, Warfield and a young Jared Allen I would think we'd welcome that as fans. These guys are leaders and that will make the team better.

Ebolapox 04-23-2010 10:03 PM

well yippy kiyay, mother****er.

ChiefaRoo 04-23-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6707392)
like tebow?

No, they weren't self righteous. They just led. I could post all the links but I'm too lazy. Most all of them were team captains or recognized by their conferences.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6707400)
After having LJ, Battle, Warfield and a young Jared Allen I would think we'd welcome that as fans. These guys are leaders and that will make the team better.

I'll welcome some wins.

ChiefaRoo 04-23-2010 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707415)
I'll welcome some wins.

Me too man. Since KC didn't upgrade the LB's it means DJ is FINALLY going to have to play some consistant football next year.

milkman 04-23-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6707422)
Me too man. Since KC didn't upgrade the LB's it means DJ is FINALLY going to have to play some consistant football next year.

Yeah, cause it only takes 6 years to get it.

You were just born yesterday, right?

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:10 PM

I don't even really hate any of the players, well other than Moaki, but the Chiefs had better options available than the guys they took.

Rausch 04-23-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6707400)
After having LJ, Battle, Warfield and a young Jared Allen I would think we'd welcome that as fans. These guys are leaders and that will make the team better.

Great.

So if they all crash on a ****ing tropical island at least we know they won't go all Lord of the Flies...

Raiduhs

petegz28 04-23-2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6707422)
Me too man. Since KC didn't upgrade the LB's it means DJ is FINALLY going to have to play some consistant football next year.

Given who DJ has had to deal with as coaches and DC's I think this is year he will have a good chance at putting it together with Romeo. Robinson, Gunther and Pedergast all were less than good at their job. I expect different from Romeo.

petegz28 04-23-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707432)
I don't even really hate any of the players, well other than Moaki, but the Chiefs had better options available than the guys they took.

That I would agree with. I wanted Cody at 2b.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:14 PM

If the Chiefs had worked the draft a bit it's pretty conceivable they could be sitting here right now with...

Eric Berry
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody
Dexter McCluster
Everson Griffen

Someone wanna tell me that's not better than what we have now?

Arrowhead Nation 04-23-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707452)
If the Chiefs had worked the draft a bit it's pretty conceivable they could be sitting here right now with...

Eric Berry
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody
Dexter McCluster
Everson Griffen

Someone wanna tell me that's not better than what we have now?

That's not better....

What makes your OPINION more correct than others? You seem quite full of yourself.

aturnis 04-23-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707452)
If the Chiefs had worked the draft a bit it's pretty conceivable they could be sitting here right now with...

Eric Berry
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody
Dexter McCluster
Everson Griffen

Someone wanna tell me that's not better than what we have now?

Why would we want or need TWO OLB's, and how would you expect us to get McCluster any later than we did? Supposedly the Iggles were hot on his nuts.

mcaj22 04-23-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6707400)
After having LJ, Battle, Warfield and a young Jared Allen I would think we'd welcome that as fans. These guys are leaders and that will make the team better.

I'll take a drunk Jared Allen over any of the garbage we drafted today just because these guys we picked "are nice" and can walk our grandmothers across street. Who gives a ****. I want talent that can show wins, I don't care what the guy does off the field in his private life.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:24 PM

I'd give them 2 OLB's because you don't pass on pass rushers when you don't have any...

Either way you can flip it out a bit but we still shouldn't have gotten an NT and a OLB out of this.

petegz28 04-23-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6707497)
Why would we want or need TWO OLB's, and how would you expect us to get McCluster any later than we did? Supposedly the Iggles were hot on his nuts.

Iggles were going to take him in the spot after us had we not drafted him. So if we wanted him it was either do it then or not at all.

mcaj22 04-23-2010 10:25 PM

are you ****s really content with going into the season with DERRICK JOHNSON, DEMORRIO WILLIAMS, MIKE VRABEL AND TAMBI HALI AS OUR LINEBACKERS? ARE YOU NUTS? I can't even name an NFL team with a 3-4 defense with a shittier linebacker core than that.


there was all this linebacker talent (outside and inside) and I watched the Chiefs pass on it, and the players we passed on are guys that are clearly better or at least have upside than what we currently have at the positions. you cant argue that.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrowhead Nation (Post 6707494)
That's not better....

What makes your OPINION more correct than others? You seem quite full of yourself.

Enjoy the backup midget CB over the NT or OLB that we needed.

Ming the Merciless 04-23-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6707394)
Outstanding.

When we go right into the crapper, at least we have players to lead us there.

ROFL

I don't agree but at least it made me laugh.

KChiefs1 04-23-2010 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707452)
If the Chiefs had worked the draft a bit it's pretty conceivable they could be sitting here right now with...

Eric Berry
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody
Dexter McCluster
Everson Griffen

Someone wanna tell me that's not better than what we have now?

I would have taken them over what we have but what do I know?:shake:

We'll have to see how these guys work out compared to "our" guys.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:28 PM

I'll take McCluster completely off and change it to Donald Butler or Damian Williams and still take it every time.

Basileus777 04-23-2010 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707452)
If the Chiefs had worked the draft a bit it's pretty conceivable they could be sitting here right now with...

Eric Berry
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody
Dexter McCluster
Everson Griffen

Someone wanna tell me that's not better than what we have now?

McCluster wouldn't have been there and Kindle fell for a reason. I wouldn't have used our first 2nd rounder on a dude who needs to have microfracture surgery. You're just listing notable names anyone could read about on a draft website.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:31 PM

I'm sure Kindle and Cody will both completely suck seeing as they went to a team that always drafts well.

I'm sorry we took a gadget player with a high 2 when our team has holes in core positions, that's brilliant.

FD 04-23-2010 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707452)
If the Chiefs had worked the draft a bit it's pretty conceivable they could be sitting here right now with...

Eric Berry
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody
Dexter McCluster
Everson Griffen

Someone wanna tell me that's not better than what we have now?

Cody is a lazy **** who will eat his way out of the league in a couple years, passing on him is the right call. Griffen hasn't even been drafted yet so I'm not sure what you're complaining about there. Kindle will probably be a good player but its either him or McCluster, you can't have both.

In other words, this list of yours is stupid as shit.

Basileus777 04-23-2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707542)
I'm sure Kindle and Cody will both completely suck seeing as they went to a team that always drafts well.

I'm sorry we took a gadget player with a high 2 when our team has holes in core positions, that's brilliant.

I'm not compltely happy with this draft, but the Ravens are in a completely different situation. They can use picks on an injured player and a specialist who will only play on run downs.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:34 PM

Yea Cody got picked by Baltimore, I'm sure he'll such, uh huh.

I hope you enjoy the gadget player and backup midget CB with our 2's.

ChiefsCountry 04-23-2010 10:37 PM

Baltimore doesnt strike out in the draft other than QB.
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mcaj22 04-23-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6707569)
Baltimore doesnt strike out in the draft other than QB.
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their QB is a lot better than ours...

DaneMcCloud 04-23-2010 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707555)
Yea Cody got picked by Baltimore, I'm sure he'll such, uh huh.

I hope you enjoy the gadget player and backup midget CB with our 2's.

I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.

Mecca 04-23-2010 10:43 PM

Didn't we just draft a CB you know, last year?

It doesn't matter how good Berry is if all he's doing is tackling RB's 8 yards up field.

Ebolapox 04-23-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6707591)
I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.

in a perfect world, weis works his magic on cassel and you're correct about our second rounders (and shaun smith somehow becomes a great nose tackle).

I just have the nagging feeling in my gut that we aren't that lucky. :(

OnTheWarpath15 04-23-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6707591)
I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.

The Chiefs needed playmakers alright.

At OLB. And ILB. And NT. And WR2. And SS.

Instead, we get a guy who's upside is a slot WR - when there were legit WR's on the board, and another nickle corner, just a year after taking - that's right, a nickle corner.

Don't even get me started on trading up for a ****ing TE two goddamn years in a row.

Everson Griffen
Daryl Washington
Koa Misi
Sergio Kindle
Linval Joseph
Sean Lee
Terrence Cody
Major Wright
Chad Jones
Donald Butler

All guys we passed on at some point in the night.

Take any combination of 3 or 4 guys off that list instead of the players we took, and this defense is fixed for the next decade.

Instead, we still have the worst front 7 in the league.

But we have 2 nickle corners, 3 slot WR's and 4 TE's. Much more important.

L.A. Chieffan 04-23-2010 10:47 PM

Do we still have a 4th? If we can somehow take Campbell and Olsen and maybe a decent LB, all is not lost.

Rausch 04-23-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6707591)
Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

So we'll have two corners under 5'10" at corner?

Uh...I don't see the Chargers, Raiders, or Donx drafting smaller and slower WR's...

L.A. Chieffan 04-23-2010 10:48 PM

That TE pick was brutal, shocking really.

Mr. Flopnuts 04-23-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707542)
I'm sure Kindle and Cody will both completely suck seeing as they went to a team that always drafts well.

I'm sorry we took a gadget player with a high 2 when our team has holes in core positions, that's brilliant.

Abso****inglutely. Gadget players with holes all across core positions.

Rausch 04-23-2010 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 6707599)
in a perfect world, weis works his magic on cassel and you're correct about our second rounders (and shaun smith somehow becomes a great nose tackle).(

Weis might be able to change where Cassel throws the ball but not how hard and how long...

KCrockaholic 04-23-2010 10:50 PM

I really like what we have done in this draft. I'm not going to pout because it didn't go exactly how I wanted it like some people. McCluster is a playmaker, Arenas is a playmaker, Berry is a playmaker and Jon Asamoah is a great pick at RG for our zone blocking scheme. Tony Moeaki will be a wait and see player, but it is nice to actually have a pass catching TE to be part of our offense now.

OnTheWarpath15 04-23-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6707615)
So we'll have two corners under 5'10" at corner?

Uh...I don't see the Chargers, Raiders, or Donx drafting smaller and slower WR's...

Yeah, Denver just drafted two kids that are 6-3+ and run like ****ing deer.

That's gonna work out great.

notorious 04-23-2010 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6707618)
Abso****inglutely. Gadget players with holes all across core positions.

The Patriot way is leveraged heavily toward speciality players.

DeezNutz 04-23-2010 10:51 PM

Are we going to be the first team to cut the current NFL Man of the Year?

WildTurkey 04-23-2010 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6707591)
I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.

This....

Mr. Flopnuts 04-23-2010 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6707630)
The Patriot way is leveraged heavily toward speciality players.

The Chief way is too epically miss on 2nd round picks. Looks like those two philosophies are starting to mesh.

Reaper16 04-23-2010 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6707591)
I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.

Arenas won't force Carr out of his starting spot. He was only a "serious playmaker" in college in the return game. He's a middling CB at the pro level, IMO.

OnTheWarpath15 04-23-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6707643)
Arenas won't force Carr out of his starting spot. He was only a "serious playmaker" in college in the return game. He's a middling CB at the pro level, IMO.

A lot of things I've read compare Arenas to Alphonso Smith.

You know, the CB the Donx took that we bash them unmercifully for.

KCrockaholic 04-23-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6707669)
A lot of things I've read compare Arenas to Alphonso Smith.

You know, the CB the Donx took that we bash them unmercifully for.

Arenas is more of a playmaker than Smith every was, and Smith was a solid college player FWIW.

johnny961 04-23-2010 11:22 PM

I like the idea of building a team around character and work ethic. This is necessary for the chemistry of the team. A few bad apples in the locker room can wreak havoc on the chemistry of the entire team. I'm not saying it isn't possible to control one or two egos, but the whole process is much easier with a majority of good character guys and a team-first attitude. I'm not saying that I 100% agree with all of our picks thus far(damn a good run-stuffing NT would have been nice), but I think it is wise to put some consideration into character when looking to upgrade whether it be through free agency or the draft.

Mecca 04-23-2010 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6707690)
Arenas is more of a playmaker than Smith every was, and Smith was a solid college player FWIW.

As a returner? Sure...

As a CB Smith had 21 career Int's...Arenas had 2.

OnTheWarpath15 04-23-2010 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707808)
As a returner? Sure...

As a CB Smith had 21 career Int's...Arenas had 2.

And boom goes the dynamite.

keg in kc 04-23-2010 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6707669)
A lot of things I've read compare Arenas to Alphonso Smith.

You know, the CB the Donx took that we bash them unmercifully for.

I don't know if we'd bash them quite as hard as we do if they'd have spent the 37 on him straight up, rather than giving up a first this year to draft him at 37. Although they are Denver, so we might bash them regardless.


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