Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+
 

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...lelogo-kcc.gif The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

Gosselin's a moron.

In before thread is hijacked with hate.

Just give us the Lombardi now

:)

No shit, while I don't care what most of the media heads write, I find it interesting that their level of intelligence is usually decided by how close they agree with the posters own opinions.

All I care about is what I see on the field, I will pass judgment at that time.

LMAO You were to late.

People think Gosselin makes the best mock drafts so I think his grade is pretty interesting.

THIS DRAFT SUCKED, well except for Berry. WTF WAS SCOTT PIOLI DOING?

What? Rich Gosselin said it was an A+?

This could be the greatest draft ever. I can't wait for the season to start.

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:) :)

The same people that were agreeing with him before will be putting his teeth on the curb and stomping on the back of his head.

Hope that makes up for Tebow. What are you going to do with Clady now that you have a LH QB? Move him to RT?

Interesting because I've been reading around and most everyone thinks the chiefs had a great draft.

Probably so but they do have valid complaints. I don't get ignoring the weakest part of your team for the 2nd year in a row.

Tebow was the steal of the draft IMO. I don't know what happens with our tackles, we got two blue chip tackles though with Clady and Harris so no matter what Denver is fine.

I am disappointed in the lack of LB and NT myself. What that tells me is Pioli and company think we can improve with what we already have.


I guess we shall see.

If by steal you mean reach, then yeah.
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Where was he going to be picked if they didn't snag him at 25?

I can understand that thinking a little bit in regards to the D-Line because they are young but we really don't have any young players at LB. I don't see Vrabel, Corey Mays, Hali and Demarrio Williams really improving much if any.

He wouldn't have lasted 10 more picks I know that. I am not trying to hijack this Chiefs thread and turn it into another Tebow thread, but I think Tebow will be in the HOF when all is said and done.

He might have been the steal of the draft but he could have been stolen in the 5th round. McDaniels is a meth head.

Yea I have stated over and over before that I believe DJ has reached his ceiling so I am not changing my tune now. I just hope I am wrong about that.

I am not a Tebow hater, he catches shit because of all the pub and his faith. He is a good kid.

That being said, I don't see him being successful in the NFL.

You forgot Belcher, Studebaker, Sheffield, Walters, Herron, and Derrick Johnson. :D

LMAO

JFC, do you people understand that the reason that people look to Gossilin's draft isn't because he's some great ****ing evaluator?

His last mock draft for the first round is usually the most accurate because he has some of the best sources in the business.

His mocks leading up to his final mock are usually pretty ****ing bad because he's a ****ing moron on his own evaluations of talent and team needs.

Oh My, ROFL

This has to be a mult account. No one is this stupid.
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Ooops my bad :)

In all seriousness I do like Studebaker and I was kind of hoping Sheffield might be a starter then I realized he is going to be playing behind Hali.

See if NFL teams would listen to the CP Horsemen, the NFL as a whole would benefit greatly, Wouldnt you agree?

Shut up!

Just shut up.

You're a ****ing hypocrite, and I got no ****ing use for hypocrites.

When was the last time anyone every gave the Chiefs A+ draft?

Two years ago.

If by hof you mean home of the forgotten, then I agree

I think some people feel as though they are smarter than Pioli and Haley and could run a draft better. Sure, I was kind of scratching my head with some of those picks. But I think it's completely unfair and quite frankly, moronic to say they had a bad draft when we don't know how these guys will pan out. I have always felt that you can't judge a draft until at least 3-4 years down the road.

I will trust the guys at One Arrowhead for now and take a wait and see approach. I think they at least deserve that.

As for the LB corps and the NT position, I wish we would have addressed those. But I also wonder if they feel that they could not address all of those needs in this on draft. Perhaps we will see a FA or 2 and then they address the LB and NT issue in next year's draft.

ROFL

That's cause his 1st two aren't really mocks.
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LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

No - what's completely unfair is to forget that everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. If it's different from yours, it's not moronic, it's just a difference of opinion.

Kewl! I didn't know there is a College Football Hall of Fame. Where is that, anyway?

Unfortunately that is what I am thinking. IMO that is kind of backwards considering to run the 3-4 effective you need a dominant NT and linebackers. They probably should have started with those first and worked on the secondary last outside of Berry.

Really? C'mon man, you've been around here long enough to know that if you're opinion is not that of the consensus, you're and idiot.

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As others have said - 2 years ago. How's that one turnng out?

Oh yeah - I forgot. This IDIOT stands corrected! :doh!:

South Bend

No, I think it means that in the later rounds, you stick to your board. You don't panic and draft based on 2 positions. It's not like this is our only chance to get NTs and OLBs. We have two seasons, including a loaded free agency market in 2011, to get those guys. In the meantime, we have guys who are serviceable.

That's my thinking. KC just spent the last couple days making a delicious frosting to put on a turd cake. They built a beautiful home built on a sand foundation. Chip Foos rims on a Pinto.

Get the good stuff underneath, then top it off with something sweet. Not the other way around.

I don't mind who they took. It's who was left available that left me scratching my head.

We sew hate in these parts, boy. Die in an AIDS tree filled with Al Davis and a herd of humping monkeys.

If people only truly followed your above statement, the Planet during the month of April might be fun to read and offer discussions. But unfortunately it doesn't happen that way...Gonzo is right in that if you don't hate on something then you are labeled an idiot.

For me....there is one person on here that I really respect when it comes to draft/player evaluation. And rather than spend my time reading all the vitriol I just wait to see his takes.

mmaddog
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If these guys have a high positional value on the DL and they passed on DL the entire weekend, my guess is that they didn't think this was a very good draft at the position(s) and with the draft's overall depth they filled other holes with better players.

If Cody is the best player we could have gotten at #2 and we'd never pick him on our team because he's fat and lazy, I'm guessing we weren't that impressed with the position overall in this draft.

This is really all you people need to know, ever.

:D
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Yep build the foundation and then you can add all the special parts.

I respect this guys opinion more than any other so I think it's a good thing he gave us the highest grade.

When it comes to his own opinions, he's about as useless as everyone else out there.

he also said:

"Kindle and Cody were steals." for the ravens


True Fans spent yesterday swearing they were bad picks and thank god we didn't take them....so i'm guessing they will all now admit to being wrong, since Gosselin has spoken

he also said:

"A team with quarterback problems no longer has any with the arrivals of Clausen and Pike"

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good thing we weren't a team with a quarterback problem...again, i'm guessing this the thread the True Fans admit to being wrong about Claussen since Gosselin has spoken

What did he say that wasn't true? I'd have gone differently with those picks, but McCluster is a dynamic player and it will cause nightmares for defenses trying to defend him and Charles. Boy it will suck having 2 guys that can turn a short pass or any run into a long TD.

Chiefs are at least an 8 win team.

They battle with Denver for 2nd spot in the AFCW

This is the new KC Chiefs.

When you can't stretch the field with the long ball, stretch the swing pass.

Screens and misdirection plays.

This should be interesting.

Chiefs might win six games this year.
You can't fix it all in one year, with one draft.
Still need a tackle, inside linebacker, wide receiver, nose tackle.
That's next year.

I don't understand the obsession with Kindle/Cody. Would they have been good picks at that spot? Yeah. But both come with a lot of risk. Kindle with his injured legs and Cody with his weight/motivation issues. There's a reason both fell as low as they did.

I would have taken Clausen. Hindsight is 20/20--I would have taken him in the first, given that nobody had any idea he'd slide that low. And I'd have to think that if he fell to 50, the Chiefs would have taken him. But given we knew he'd fall 10 spots from where he eventually landed, it would have been a reach.

But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.

And keep in mind that we're never going to be perfect at every position--if I had to choose, I'd pick ILB and maybe receiver (given Weis' offensive approach) as way down on the priority list. And also that the free agency market in 2011 is going to be extremely rich with two classes of URFAs, essentially, and if Pioli's track record tells us anything, it's probably a year you expect him to load up on players.

I really like Gosselin.

I liked Kindle. I liked Cody. And I really liked Clausen. Either of them would have done fine.

But Gosselin also says we got good value in McCluster and Arenas. I'm so-so on the Arenas pick. I'm just trying to understand why so many people are pissed off to all hell that this was such a missed pick when most of the draft experts like Gosselin seem to love it.

And by the way, since the claim was that Gosselin has great sources, I think the point to be made is that if Gosselin rated the draft as an A+, that's a sign that he's saying "based on what I know from my sources, this was the right spot to take these guys."

He has great sources for his final mock.

Does he use these sources to write his grades?

That's silly.
There are thousands of people in the world who's opinion I value more than others(in any number of topics), but also pick and choose what I agree and disagree with.

A+ for trying to sell tickets
It's a business first and hometown points is what the average ticket buyer wants
No QB in this class could've done that

I didn't like hardly any of the picks and haven't defended many of them but alot of the so-called experts like our draft so maybe I am just stupid. That wouldn't be some kind of shock or anything.

Thank you.

You simply proved TC's point.

I'm going to say it right now. Jimmy Clausen will not beat out Matt Moore.

I am ok with you or anyone scratching their head if they don't agree....that's just a difference in opinion, which is part of how this place got started.

It's when the discussions get personal that I shake my head and wonder.

mmaddog
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I don't give a rat's ass about Jimmy Clasen.

Never once have I said that he's a guy that I wanted.

I have always said that I wasn't sold on him.

This isn't about any specific player.

This is about full time players vs. part time players.

I hope Gosselin is right but i just don't see it.

imo there is no way that McCluster makes up for that fact that our run defense sucks ass.

imo there is no way Arenas improves the return game enough to make up for having bad linebackers in a 3-4 defense.

I have a hard time believing that we had a better draft than the seahawks.

And you could be absolutely correct....but I don't think that Cody or Kindle would have made that much of a difference either. There are just too many people dogging Cody for his work ethic (as they did the kid from NC). And Kindle came with injury concerns....

Now...were there other Defensive studs we could have taken there? I'm not the expert. But it seems there were some that were available in later rounds that made me scratch my head as to why we didn't take a flyer on.

mmaddog
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This is pretty much my main complaint. I wanted 4 starters at the end of round 3 I think we got 2.

I mostly agree but I was pretty pissed on Friday night and it wasn't a good sight. :D