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Buck 07-27-2010 02:49 PM

Jack Tatum Dead
 
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...m-dies-at-61/1

Chief Pote 07-27-2010 02:49 PM

Just saw that on the local news web page. Mean mother

Titty Meat 07-27-2010 02:51 PM

Seems like the NFL legends don't live long. Thats sad RIP.

blaise 07-27-2010 02:54 PM

Al Davis is demanding that his corpse start on defense.

ClevelandBronco 07-27-2010 03:04 PM

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mikey23545 07-27-2010 03:09 PM

I hope that cheap-shotting one who sucks the penis is roasting in hell right now....The world is a better place already....

gblowfish 07-27-2010 03:13 PM

He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose. He was dirtier than Rodney Harrison, and put Darryl Stingley in a wheelchair for life.

Good riddance.

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'Hamas' Jenkins 07-27-2010 03:16 PM

I hope that he is being cut blocked by demons in the fires of blacket Hell.

ClevelandBronco 07-27-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 6900918)
He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose...

Wasn't that pretty much the job description of a good defensive player in that era?

greg63 07-27-2010 03:22 PM

Whatever my opinion of someone may have been in this life I will not ever hope that anyone burn in hell; would not wish that on my worst enemy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-27-2010 03:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tpzA4wt_o#t=6m26s

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Go to 6 minutes and 26 seconds.

sandynme 07-27-2010 03:30 PM

like all raiders and their fans,jack tatum was a knob polishing puuuuusssssy

siberian khatru 07-27-2010 03:51 PM

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pg2/...stingley_i.jpg

RJ 07-27-2010 03:54 PM

RIP Jack Tatum. I did not like you as a player but I hate seeing the players from your era passing away. For me, those were the NFL/AFL's finest days.

Iowanian 07-27-2010 03:57 PM

I'll bet St Peter will give him a filthy throat chop as he is looking the other way passing through the gate.

Deberg_1990 07-27-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 6900918)
He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose. He was dirtier than Rodney Harrison, and put Darryl Stingley in a wheelchair for life.

Good riddance.

The game was different back then. If they had the same rules (or lack thereof) today that they did then, guys like Harrison would have been just as dirty.

big nasty kcnut 07-27-2010 04:41 PM

yeah jack tatum sucks ass

big nasty kcnut 07-27-2010 04:43 PM

I respect players for hitting hard and playing the right way.

Pioli Zombie 07-27-2010 06:25 PM

You are supposed to say something good about the dead. He's dead. Good. Piece of shit.

Ugly Duck 07-27-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 6900928)
Wasn't that pretty much the job description of a good defensive player in that era?

Thank you for not piling on when a man dies. You're OK.... for a Broncos fan.

"Jack Tatum could hit a man so hard it would lift both his feet off the ground. I remember one game, when the opposing QB tried to scramble for a first down, and Jack knocked him out cold. So they put their back-up in and Jack knocked him out too. Then the punter came in, same thing happened. They ended with their tight-end under center." -Woody Hayes

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DJ's left nut 07-27-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6900958)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tpzA4wt_o#t=6m26s

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Go to 6 minutes and 26 seconds.

Wow, Charlie Murphy was pretty much a militant prick.

I like him less now.

R8RFAN 07-27-2010 07:19 PM

This is going to be worthless for some here no matter what is said or posted but here it goes

Quote:

Tatum made efforts to visit Stingley. Before Stingley's death in 2007, intermediaries made several attempts to bring the two together, to bury the ugly past, and each time Stingley, feeling he was being exploited, declined involvement."I feel sorry for what happened to him," Tatum told Yahoo Sports in 2007. "I tried to apologize to him a number of times, but people around him wouldn't let that happen."
If Tatum wasn't properly contrite, it's because he understood the incident was a tragic accident. Referees threw no flags. The league issued no fine. Stingley's own coach, Chuck Fairbanks, conceded it was a clean hit.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raid...nclick_check=1

Buck 07-27-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6900958)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tpzA4wt_o#t=6m26s

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Go to 6 minutes and 26 seconds.

Jesus. Cocaine much?

Hammock Parties 07-27-2010 07:31 PM

I thought this thread was going to be full of sad sentimentality.

Glad to see you guys did the right thing.

TheGuardian 07-27-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 6901572)
This is going to be worthless for some here no matter what is said or posted but here it goes


http://www.contracostatimes.com/raid...nclick_check=1

Tatum tried to apologize the first time because of a book deal I believe. Nothing more than press to sell more books.

Tatum was a piece of shit. He never had any remorse for ending a guys career and putting him in a wheelchair for life. The world is a better place without that prick. Good riddance maggot.

boogblaster 07-27-2010 08:12 PM

A mean bastard .. that was how it was played and coached back then ....

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-27-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6901595)
I thought this thread was going to be full of sad sentimentality.

Glad to see you guys did the right thing.

I hope he's given a Viking funeral with the boat made from the lumber of the Alomar forest.

Over-Head 07-27-2010 10:42 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not the Assassin!!! :eek::eek:

Lex Luthor 07-27-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 6900918)
He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose. He was dirtier than Rodney Harrison, and put Darryl Stingley in a wheelchair for life.

Good riddance.

:clap:

Over-Head 07-27-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 6900928)
Wasn't that pretty much the job description of a good defensive player in that era?

Yeah really :rolleyes:

Demonpenz 07-27-2010 10:51 PM

It's just kinda the sick way the game is. You know that these linebackers go into the hole not giving a **** about their necks, brains, and such, corners come up and just dive into peoples legs to take out people. It is a ruthless game and alot of the guys grow up in the poor and they just don't care. They are there to hurt people, because it's you or them baby. Frankly the chiefs have had some pussies bringing it to the hole as of late. The one that could bring it, is in texans uni.

FAX 07-28-2010 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6901041)
RIP Jack Tatum. I did not like you as a player but I hate seeing the players from your era passing away. For me, those were the NFL/AFL's finest days.

I read somewhere that an NFL player's average life expectancy is 58 years. I read that some time ago, so the number may have changed what with all the advances that have been made in brain grafting and spine replacement and re-blooding and all. Still, that seems young. Almost Middle Ages young.

As for Tatum, he was the kind of player you loved to hate ... and I hated the crap out of him. It's not good form to speak ill of the departed though, so I'll say RIP and trust that, right about now, Archangel Michael is swinging him around by his hair in big circles.

FAX

blaise 07-28-2010 06:56 AM

(sorry if this is posted in one of the videos. I can't watch them all)
There was a piece they ran on him a couple of years ago before the Super Bowl. Someone, one of his teammates, said he came up to him in the locker room after the Stingley game and asked if he was ok. He said Tatum was sitting there, smoking a cigarette, and said, "Why the **** wouldn't I be ok?"

On a side note- I told that to Tim Grunhard once and he said that the lockers at Arrowhead had holes drilled in the side because there were once ashtrays affixed to them. Players used to smoke at their lockers.

MOhillbilly 07-28-2010 07:32 AM

Raider scum.

Amnorix 07-28-2010 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6901661)
Tatum tried to apologize the first time because of a book deal I believe. Nothing more than press to sell more books.

Tatum was a piece of shit. He never had any remorse for ending a guys career and putting him in a wheelchair for life. The world is a better place without that prick. Good riddance maggot.

This. This x1000.

The difference is exemplified by Raiders coach John Madden who was at the hospital with Stingley THAT NIGHT (or the next night, whatever), whereas Tatum, the guy who committed the act, never apologized or tried to meet with him until many many years later when he had a book coming out or whatever.

F him.

Over-Head 07-28-2010 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6902288)
This. This x1000.

The difference is exemplified by Raiders coach John Madden who was at the hospital with Stingley THAT NIGHT (or the next night, whatever), whereas Tatum, the guy who committed the act, never apologized or tried to meet with him until many many years later when he had a book coming out or whatever.

F him.

Many witnesses still claim it was Stingleys family that turned Jack away from teh hospital when he did show up.
IIRC it's in his book (i'd have to read it again) he did show up, and was turned back, and threatened by Stingleys family of the police being called if he didn't leave.

What happened, who knows, either way, bad accident, but shit happens.
How come Butkus don't get shit for "killing" a guy he hit who had a hart attack??

milkman 07-28-2010 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6901661)
Tatum tried to apologize the first time because of a book deal I believe. Nothing more than press to sell more books.

Tatum was a piece of shit. He never had any remorse for ending a guys career and putting him in a wheelchair for life. The world is a better place without that prick. Good riddance maggot.

The book deal is the only real problem I have with Tatum, other than the fact that he was a dirty, cheatin' Raider.

But the fact is, he didn't break any rules on that hit on Stingly, and he wasn't the only player of that era to make those kinds of hits (Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, to name a Chief), and the only reason he's villified is because he did put Stingly in a wheelchair.

RNR 07-28-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6902302)
The book deal is the only real problem I have with Tatum, other than the fact that he was a dirty, cheatin' Raider.

But the fact is, he didn't break any rules on that hit on Stingly, and he wasn't the only player of that era to make those kinds of hits (Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, to name a Chief), and the only reason he's villified is because he did put Stingly in a wheelchair.

Thank you, but the fact of the matter Tate never play outside of the rule book. He had teammates that did but he played with in the rule book. He hit like no other and because of guys he played with and the hit on Stingley he got a bad rap. The hit on Stingley was clean and ironically was not even a hard hit. It happened 08/12/78 on my birthday and to this day I am stunned the kid did not get up. Jack showed poor form IMO on how he handled the situation. He did show up at the hospital to see Darrell but was cussed and told to f&ck off.

He should have understood the emotions of the situation and put that aside. He did not and felt he was hired to hit and that is what he did. The nickname was given to him before he ever played a down in the NFL and was not the nickname he had with the team. He should have reached out after feelings cooled and the whole book deal came off tacky. That said RIP Tate you were the hardest hitter pound for pound ever and 2nd place is distant.

RNR 07-28-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6902288)
This. This x1000.

The difference is exemplified by Raiders coach John Madden who was at the hospital with Stingley THAT NIGHT (or the next night, whatever), whereas Tatum, the guy who committed the act, never apologized or tried to meet with him until many many years later when he had a book coming out or whatever.

F him.

You are full of shit on this one, he tried. Madden was allowed Jack was not~

milkman 07-28-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6903778)
Thank you, but the fact of the matter Tate never play outside of the rule book. He had teammates that did but he played with in the rule book..

He was a Raider.

That makes him dirty, cheatin' by definition.

RNR 07-28-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6903788)
He was a Raider.

That makes him dirty, cheatin' by definition.

LMAO ok I am on a Chiefs site~

Over-Head 07-28-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6903833)
LMAO ok I am on a Chiefs site~

ROFL

Buck 07-28-2010 06:25 PM

I wonder if everyone would be saying the same stuff about Fred Williamson?

Over-Head 07-28-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6903845)
I wonder if everyone would be saying the same stuff about Fred Williamson?

Or Ronnie Lott, Jack Lambert, Dick Butckus etc, etc,etc

googlegoogle 07-28-2010 06:34 PM

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TheGuardian 07-28-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6903778)
Thank you, but the fact of the matter Tate never play outside of the rule book. He had teammates that did but he played with in the rule book. He hit like no other and because of guys he played with and the hit on Stingley he got a bad rap. The hit on Stingley was clean and ironically was not even a hard hit. It happened 08/12/78 on my birthday and to this day I am stunned the kid did not get up. Jack showed poor form IMO on how he handled the situation. He did show up at the hospital to see Darrell but was cussed and told to f&ck off.

He should have understood the emotions of the situation and put that aside. He did not and felt he was hired to hit and that is what he did. The nickname was given to him before he ever played a down in the NFL and was not the nickname he had with the team. He should have reached out after feelings cooled and the whole book deal came off tacky. That said RIP Tate you were the hardest hitter pound for pound ever and 2nd place is distant.

Tatum never even apologized for the hit. I've heard the "why wouldn't I be ok?" story too. Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.

RNR 07-28-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6903875)
Tatum never even apologized for the hit. I've heard the "why wouldn't I be ok?" story too. Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.

**** off tool~

Over-Head 07-28-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6903888)
**** off tool~

I Am a Raiders fan, and I approve this post :thumb:

RNR 07-28-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by googlegoogle (Post 6903866)
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A very sad play one I have watched several times. Everytime I have seen it I think think why didn't the kid pop up. The ugly side of a sport where men hit~

RNR 07-28-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head (Post 6903898)
I Am a Raiders fan, and I approve this post :thumb:

He is nothing but a troll~

Ugly Duck 07-28-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6903875)
Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.

It was just a run-of-the-mill tackle. Stingley put his head down just before contact & it collided with Tatum's chest. Nothing dirty, no blow to the head, no hitting from behind. Just a tragic accident. Look at the video.

RNR 07-28-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 6903940)
It was just a run-of-the-mill tackle. Stingley put his head down just before contact & it collided with Tatum's chest. Nothing dirty, no blow to the head, no hitting from behind. Just a tragic accident. Look at the video.

Don't waste your time Duck he is a clown~

chiefzilla1501 07-28-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6903875)
Tatum never even apologized for the hit. I've heard the "why wouldn't I be ok?" story too. Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.

Tatum may have been a mean son of a bitch on the field.

But don't pretend you knew him off of it. You don't have to respect the guy for what he did on the field. But I take exception when you call him a disgusting human being when you know nothing about him. I lived in Ohio for several years. The guy was extremely active in the community in promoting diabetes research. He may have put a guy in a wheelchair, but I know firsthand that he has done a shitload of work that has led to taking people out of wheelchairs.

He's a dirty player. Dont' pretend that football and personal lives are the same thing.

milkman 07-28-2010 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6903948)
Tatum may have been a mean son of a bitch on the field.

But don't pretend you knew him off of it. You don't have to respect the guy for what he did on the field. But I take exception when you call him a disgusting human being when you know nothing about him. I lived in Ohio for several years. The guy was extremely active in the community in promoting diabetes research. He may have put a guy in a wheelchair, but I know firsthand that he has done a shitload of work that has led to taking people out of wheelchairs.

He's a dirty player. Dont' pretend that football and personal lives are the same thing.

He played within the rules at the time, so "dirty player" is technically not correct.

TheGuardian 07-28-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6903888)
**** off tool~

Get bitch slapped pussy.

I never said anything about "dirty play" so I'm not sure why some of you keep repeating that. It wasn't about the play but about how Tatum acted after it.

Tatum never apologized for the hit, he never showed a single ounce of remorse for taking a mans legs away from him for life. He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

chiefzilla1501 07-28-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6903964)
He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

You don't know what the **** you are talking about

RNR 07-28-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6903964)
Get bitch slapped pussy.

I never said anything about "dirty play" so I'm not sure why some of you keep repeating that. It wasn't about the play but about how Tatum acted after it.

Tatum never apologized for the hit, he never showed a single ounce of remorse for taking a mans legs away from him for life. He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

LMAO tool~

FAX 07-28-2010 07:27 PM

Tatum was one of those guys you loved to hate.

Old school player. Heavy hitter. Nasty attitude. Raider uniform. Pet skunk on chain.

Personally, I think the league has become so safety conscious that a lot of people forget just how incredibly violent the NFL used to be. What might seem like an overly aggressive hit today was business as usual back in those days ... not to mention entirely legal.

FAX

KCinNY 07-28-2010 08:08 PM

Hardest hitter I ever saw. Makes Ronnie Lott and Steve Atwater look like soft pussies in comparison.

I'll never forget the collision he had with Earl Campbell on the goal line. Talk about two Mack trucks colliding.

RIP.

FAX 07-28-2010 08:27 PM

The cool thing is that, even though the Raiders were filthy, dirty, low-down, cheatin', good-for-nothin's, the Chiefs (who always played clean and by the rules and, if they knocked somebody down or something, they'd always help them back up) would kick their filthy, rotten, cheatin' asses anyhow.

FAX

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-28-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6903845)
I wonder if everyone would be saying the same stuff about Fred Williamson?

Did Jack Tatum star in King Cobra commercials?

No.

Over-Head 07-28-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6903964)
Get bitch slapped pussy.

I never said anything about "dirty play" so I'm not sure why some of you keep repeating that. It wasn't about the play but about how Tatum acted after it.

Tatum never apologized for the hit, he never showed a single ounce of remorse for taking a mans legs away from him for life. He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

So did you hide in his pants pocket, or just follow him around on a chain to be able to say that as a matter of fact statement?:shake:

TheGuardian 07-28-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head (Post 6904347)
So did you hide in his pants pocket, or just follow him around on a chain to be able to say that as a matter of fact statement?:shake:

Feel free to direct me to the video or audio or transcript where Tatum clearly shows remorse for what he did.

Rain Man 07-28-2010 10:16 PM

I hated the Raiders back then more than I hated anything else on the planet. They were lying, cheating scum.

Matt Millen was a dirty, dirty player. So was Howie Long and Lester Hayes and Ben Davidson and Steve Wisniewski and Todd Christensen and Lyle Alzado and Fred Biletnikoff and Ken Stabler and all those mediocre running backs and George Blanda and John Madden and Ray Guy and pretty much everyone else.

However, I have to say that Tatum was no dirtier than a typical NFL player. He was borderline, but he was far from the worst of the Raiders. Ben Davidson and Lester Hayes and Matt Millen and Lyle Alzado and Howie Long were the cheapest, nastiest, most dirty players that team produced.

ClevelandBronco 07-28-2010 10:17 PM

Personally I miss the days when the Raiders were a team that we could hate.

FAX 07-28-2010 10:20 PM

Proof of that nature may be difficult to locate. The fact is that Tatum didn't have the kind of personality that allowed him to show true remorse in a public setting. He was the kind of guy who demonstrated remorse by holding up a bank or throttling a baby kitten with his bare hands or setting fire to a homeless person ... something like that.

FAX

Rain Man 07-28-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 6904379)
Personally I miss the days when the Raiders were a team that we could hate.


Yeah, back in the old days it was Clint Eastwood versus Lee Marvin and Darth Vader and that guy in Cape Fear. It's less dramatic when it's Clint Eastwood versus Don Knotts. Or sadly, when it's Peewee Herman versus Don Knotts.

R8RFAN 07-31-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 6904379)
Personally I miss the days when the Raiders were a team that we could hate.

If you don't hate the Raiders for ass raping you the way they did with Jameatloaf, you ain't ever gonna hate us


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