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runnercyclist 09-13-2010 11:44 PM

10-22 68 Yards
 
And this is not a Cassell hater thread. It was funny hearing Dilfer commenting on how he went through the same thing as a QB. Because he sucked too. But he also won a super bowl. Manage the game and don't turn the ball over. Cassell played good enough to win tonight. Do that all season.

Direckshun 09-13-2010 11:46 PM

68 yards.

This is our quarterback.

Holy shitballs, we're doomed.

runnercyclist 09-13-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7003391)
68 yards.

This is our quarterback.

Holy shitballs, we're doomed.

...and a W!

Bewbies 09-13-2010 11:56 PM

If we had a QB we would have blown them out.

I don't really care right now though, I'm too happy to be mad.

rambleonthruthefog 09-13-2010 11:58 PM

cassel sucks

Psyko Tek 09-14-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by runnercyclist (Post 7003371)
And this is not a Cassell hater thread. It was funny hearing Dilfer commenting on how he went through the same thing as a QB. Because he sucked too. But he also won a super bowl. Manage the game and don't turn the ball over. Cassell played good enough to win tonight. Do that all season.

dilfer won with a kick ass d
so did the 86 bears
and the world's best running back
we ain't the bears or ravens

yet

but this d has potential
then we can play dane mcloud as qb and win

suds79 09-14-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by runnercyclist (Post 7003371)
Do that all season.

Do that all season?

Can we count on special teams TDs all season?

We'll need a lot more in the future. I won't kill Matt tonight. I don't think he was helped by the coaching staff.

Hard to pass the ball when they don't give you many opportunities.

Quesadilla Joe 09-14-2010 12:20 AM

Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

notorious 09-14-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

Do you guys still want Cassel?


Hell, we might even throw a pick in with him just to get him the **** away from Arrowhead.

petegz28 09-14-2010 12:30 AM

Cassel was ineffective namely because of play calling. At the end of the game on 3rd and 4 we call a run that goes no where? WHY? Were we scared to have Cassel throw the ball 4 yards? He does that well. That being said I thought he held the ball a few times but he also got popped pretty good a few times as he was throwing.

Bewbies 09-14-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

Well, we won tonight and we play Denver twice. That's 3 right there.

chasedude 09-14-2010 12:31 AM

Pitiful :shake:

Pitt Gorilla 09-14-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 7003737)
Cassel was ineffective namely because of play calling. At the end of the game on 3rd and 4 we call a run that goes no where? WHY? Were we scared to have Cassel throw the ball 4 yards? He does that well. That being said I thought he held the ball a few times but he also got popped pretty good a few times as he was throwing.

Once again, WR routes/breaks take a little longer in the slop.

petegz28 09-14-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7003754)
Once again, WR routes/breaks take a little longer in the slop.

Rivers and his WR's had little problem. Granted Cassel doesn't get the protection Rivers was getting. Plus Rivers knows how to keep a play alive. Cassel doesn't do well at that.

LaChapelle 09-14-2010 12:34 AM

And yet the #1 in jersey sales couldn't hold his jock

Tactical Funky 09-14-2010 12:36 AM

68 yards passing sucks, but I pin a lot of that on the weather and poor playcalling at times. Cassel wasn't good tonight, but he did throw for a TD and no interceptions; that can't hurt. He was a game manager when he needed to be...and hey, that's all he ever may be. Who really knows at this point? I hope Weis can get him to come around.

Just Passin' By 09-14-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 7003760)
Rivers and his WR's had little problem. Granted Cassel doesn't get the protection Rivers was getting. Plus Rivers knows how to keep a play alive. Cassel doesn't do well at that.

The Chargers receivers were getting wide open on broken coverages. Other than Moeaki in the end zone, and the bubble screens, a 3 inch cushion was "wide open" by Chiefs receiver standards.

acesn8s 09-14-2010 12:37 AM

Cassel = Leinart = Sanchez = overrated USC QB

Pitt Gorilla 09-14-2010 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 7003760)
Rivers and his WR's had little problem. Granted Cassel doesn't get the protection Rivers was getting. Plus Rivers knows how to keep a play alive. Cassel doesn't do well at that.

Actually, they had quite a few problems. Take away Berry's full-on retart plays, and SD didn't look that great either.

LaChapelle 09-14-2010 12:39 AM

All of Rivers throws were onthe money
la la la

Wallcrawler 09-14-2010 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 7003618)
Do that all season?

Can we count on special teams TDs all season?

We'll need a lot more in the future. I won't kill Matt tonight. I don't think he was helped by the coaching staff.

Hard to pass the ball when they don't give you many opportunities.


Score dictates playcalling.

You dont count on special teams TDs all season. But we got one that put us up by 14 points, in a freaking downpour. That changes the game. You dont have to be super aggressive with the playcalling when you get a gift 7 dropped in your lap like that.

Why sit back there and chunk the ball over and over in the pouring rain with a 14 point lead? Its senseless. The D was playing solid, and the Chargers couldnt get out of their own way.

If the game was tighter, I think you wouldve seen Weiss open up the playcalling a bit more to get more points, but in this case, it looks to me like he called the right game to get the W.

Dilfer didnt like the playcalls, some fans didnt like the playcalls, but hey. 14 point lead in the pouring rain, you dont have to get crazy. The Chargers didnt do anything to force the issue. They remained down by 2 scores for a large part of the game.


Trent Dilfer is hardly anyone who should be commentating with an "expert" opinion. If it wasnt for that Ravens D, he wouldnt even have that job he has right now. Pissing and moaning about the Chiefs playcalling.... Ohhh, Im Matt Cassel now, and I havent thrown the football in 45 minutes and now Im being asked on 3rd and 9 to make a throw against the San Diego Chargers.

Hes getting paid 60 million dollars, Trent. He better be able to throw the goddamn football whenever he's needed to. Its a torrential downpour and they had a 2 score lead, and much like you Trent Dilfer, he doesnt have much pocket presence or real throwing ability outside of 10 yards. I doubt you see much gunslinging out of Matt Cassel when the team is up 2 scores. Ever.

Ill take 68 yards and a W, over 300 plus with 3+ WTF interceptions and a loss any day. It wasnt very exciting, barring a few big plays but they got the W.

petegz28 09-14-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 7003843)
Score dictates playcalling.

You dont count on special teams TDs all season. But we got one that put us up by 14 points, in a freaking downpour. That changes the game. You dont have to be super aggressive with the playcalling when you get a gift 7 dropped in your lap like that.

Why sit back there and chunk the ball over and over in the pouring rain with a 14 point lead? Its senseless. The D was playing solid, and the Chargers couldnt get out of their own way.

If the game was tighter, I think you wouldve seen Weiss open up the playcalling a bit more to get more points, but in this case, it looks to me like he called the right game to get the W.

Dilfer didnt like the playcalls, some fans didnt like the playcalls, but hey. 14 point lead in the pouring rain, you dont have to get crazy. The Chargers didnt do anything to force the issue. They remained down by 2 scores for a large part of the game.


Trent Dilfer is hardly anyone who should be commentating with an "expert" opinion. If it wasnt for that Ravens D, he wouldnt even have that job he has right now. Pissing and moaning about the Chiefs playcalling.... Ohhh, Im Matt Cassel now, and I havent thrown the football in 45 minutes and now Im being asked on 3rd and 9 to make a throw against the San Diego Chargers.

Hes getting paid 60 million dollars, Trent. He better be able to throw the goddamn football whenever he's needed to. Its a torrential downpour and they had a 2 score lead, and much like you Trent Dilfer, he doesnt have much pocket presence or real throwing ability outside of 10 yards. I doubt you see much gunslinging out of Matt Cassel when the team is up 2 scores. Ever.

Ill take 68 yards and a W, over 300 plus with 3+ WTF interceptions and a loss any day. It wasnt very exciting, barring a few big plays but they got the W.

I don't care what anyone says, there is no such thing as an ugly win. And if there were I would take an ugly win over a pretty loss any day of my life.

keg in kc 09-14-2010 01:15 AM

I love the win, ugly or not, but when the Chargers are literally 3 or 4 yards from taking the game to overtime, it's hard to laud the decision to be conservative, if there was such a decision. The credit there goes to the defense, completely, because even if they were being conservative in a martyball way, the offense simply wasn't executing, whether they were running it or passing it. 9 first downs and less than 50 total plays is nothing to applaud, no matter how you slice it. They have some things they need to work out...

petegz28 09-14-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7003929)
I love the win, ugly or not, but when the Chargers are literally 3 or 4 yards from taking the game to overtime, it's hard to laud the decision to be conservative, if there was such a decision. The credit there goes to the defense, completely, because even if they were being conservative in a martyball way, the offense simply wasn't executing, whether they were running it or passing it. 9 first downs and less than 50 total plays is nothing to applaud, no matter how you slice it. They have some things they need to work out...

The decision to run the ball on 3rd and 4 on our last posession was what confused me. Were we scared to let Cassel throw the ball? Fearful that the O-line would allow a sack and possible turnover? Or did we think we could actually run a play they pretty much shut down all game?

pkane 09-14-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by acesn8s (Post 7003794)
Cassel = Leinart = Sanchez = overrated USC QB

This....But ours got the W.

easymobee 09-14-2010 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tactical Funky (Post 7003784)
68 yards passing sucks, but I pin a lot of that on the weather and playcalling

Yeah, it wasnt fair how the rain would stop and the wind would settle down when Rivers was on the field.

Its the only way that Rivers managed to get 300 yards through the air.

Regarding playcalling: Im sure there was some sort of game-long miscommunication or radio malfunction. Im sure Weis trusts Cassell fully and wouldn't call a game like that on purpose due to any sort of trust issues.

You guys are solid!

We need to get off Cassells back, hes still on pace to pass for more than 1000 yards and everyone knows that having a 1000 yard season means you are doing good.

On a serious note, the crowd was great tonight as was the special teams-return game, but the QB? Doesn't Croyle or even Thigpen manage at least 150 yards tonight in a starting role?

Fish 09-14-2010 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pkane (Post 7004028)
This....But ours got the W.

Not really. We won despite our QB tonight. Completely.

You can blame it on whatever, but the truth is that one QB managed to throw for 298 yds despite the conditions. The other... 68 yds.

jaa1025 09-14-2010 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7004053)
Not really. We won despite our QB tonight. Completely.

You can blame it on whatever, but the truth is that one QB managed to throw for 298 yds despite the conditions. The other... 68 yds.

This.

And

Haley needs to get Charles the ball more, period.

pkane 09-14-2010 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7004053)
Not really. We won despite our QB tonight. Completely.

You can blame it on whatever, but the truth is that one QB managed to throw for 298 yds despite the conditions. The other... 68 yds.

We may have won despite our QB but we still won, unlike the Jets, who I was referring to.

CupidStunt 09-14-2010 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run

200 and how many yards was it?

Good luck with that.

keg in kc 09-14-2010 02:16 AM

Rivers did throw the ball 17 more times than Cassel did, and we were in zone for most of the second half thanks to the lead. Not that I think Cassel would've gotten 200 more yards with 17 more attempts, but let's not lose sight of Rivers' 9-17 for 77 yard first half, when the KC defense was being a little more aggressive.

(That's not excusing Cassel, it's just looking at the situational layout of the game...)

runnercyclist 09-14-2010 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 7003618)
Do that all season?

Can we count on special teams TDs all season?

We'll need a lot more in the future. I won't kill Matt tonight. I don't think he was helped by the coaching staff.

Hard to pass the ball when they don't give you many opportunities.

Yes. Play well enough to win. Whatever THAT takes.

FloridaMan88 09-14-2010 07:56 AM

It was pathetic watching Cassel being interviewed immediately after the game, glowing with pride as if he did anything significant to contribute to this victory.

Memo to Cassel... when you only have 5 more yards passing than the millions in your fat contract ($63 million) that is pretty sad.

Psyko Tek 09-14-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

suck another cock
will ya?

talk shit when you team WINS a game
until then STFU

Marcellus 09-14-2010 08:43 AM

Cassel didn't look great and he didn't look real bad. I would Love to see better QB play, Loooove it.

But, look at Manning's numbers, look at Cassel's numbers then look in the win column. Now I feel better.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-14-2010 09:17 AM

This game was 1 turnover away from being a loss. Fortunately we didn't turn it over and you have to give our team props for that.

ToxSocks 09-14-2010 09:19 AM

Not even 24 hours after a great win and we already have one of these threads. Figures.

alpha_omega 09-14-2010 09:20 AM

The passing game must improve, no doubt about that.

King_Chief_Fan 09-14-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

ok then, let's see the donks put up or shut up shall we...

Chiefnj2 09-14-2010 09:23 AM

Weis called an all around poor game. So did Norv.

Skyy God 09-14-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7004276)
It was pathetic watching Cassel being interviewed immediately after the game, glowing with pride as if he did anything significant to contribute to this victory.

Memo to Cassel... when you only have 5 more yards passing than the millions in your fat contract ($63 million) that is pretty sad.

Yes. Dude should have been glum, since he didn't put up great individual stats.

blaise 09-14-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

You're a little sad because you're realizing the Broncos are actually worse than you expected, aren't you?

Coogs 09-14-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7003788)
The Chargers receivers were getting wide open on broken coverages. Other than Moeaki in the end zone, and the bubble screens, a 3 inch cushion was "wide open" by Chiefs receiver standards.

In all fairness, the Chargers O-line was holding like a mother trucker on nearly every single pass play down the stretch. Pretty hard to get much pressure when you have been on the field all night, and get held to boot.

If our O-line will be allowed to hold like that, maybe we will be able to have our receivers get some seperation like the Charger receivers had.

HC_Chief 09-14-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 7004643)
In all fairness, the Chargers O-line was holding like a mother trucker on nearly every single pass play down the stretch. Pretty hard to get much pressure when you have been on the field all night, and get held to boot.

If our O-line will be allowed to hold like that, maybe we will be able to have our receivers get some seperation like the Charger receivers had.

Or if we had a receiving threat so *&#%ing dangerous that THREE defenders were shitting themselves on each snap, allowing for single coverage on everyone else....

The wide open receivers were due to blown assignments. Young secondary + absolute fear of Antonio Gates = a couple of wide open plays.

Coogs 09-14-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 7004671)
The wide open receivers were due to blown assignments. Young secondary + absolute fear of Antonio Gates = a couple of wide open plays.

And some serious friggin' holding that gave Rivers a lot more time than he should have had. I heard a report last week that said they thought O-linemen would get away with more holding due to the umpire being moved to the backfield. I believe it after last night. 61 and 66 held damn near every single play.

CoMoChief 09-14-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 7003618)
Do that all season?

Can we count on special teams TDs all season?

We'll need a lot more in the future. I won't kill Matt tonight. I don't think he was helped by the coaching staff.

Hard to pass the ball when they don't give you many opportunities.

I think the coaching staff knows what they have. A QB that isn't very good. I can't seem to think Haley has much faith in Cassel, regardless of all the coach speak and other positive things he says about him. Like it or not, Cassel is going to make or break this team.

And I don't see Pioli having the nutsack to say screw it this experiement failed, and draft a QB high in the first rd next season or sometime in near future. As far as I see it, we're stuck w/ Cassel.

HC_Chief 09-14-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 7004684)
And some serious friggin' holding that gave Rivers a lot more time than he should have had. I heard a report last week that said they thought O-linemen would get away with more holding due to the umpire being moved to the backfield. I believe it after last night. 61 and 66 held damn near every single play.

Yeah, I saw it too. One one play the DE was waving his arm at the ref as the OT pulled down on the front of his jersey.... it was blatent.

As I said in another thread however, the refs let them play. They did consult after a couple hankies were tossed and waved them off. They did let Dorsey smack Rivers late (4th down pass to end the game), so it all evens out for me.

The wide-open passes were due to blown coverage... guys missing their assignment because they were terrified Gates may rip them again (as he typically does). Even with holding, KC was able to apply pressure (obvious exceptions).

Coogs 09-14-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 7004697)
Yeah, I saw it too. One one play the DE was waving his arm at the ref as the OT pulled down on the front of his jersey.... it was blatent.

As I said in another thread however, the refs let them play. They did consult after a couple hankies were tossed and waved them off. They did let Dorsey smack Rivers late (4th down pass to end the game), so it all evens out for me.

The wide-open passes were due to blown coverage... guys missing their assignment because they were terrified Gates may rip them again (as he typically does). Even with holding, KC was able to apply pressure (obvious exceptions).

Fair enough. Pretty hard to fault the defense last night... open receivers or not. They rocked.

Chief Faithful 09-14-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7003797)
Actually, they had quite a few problems. Take away Berry's full-on retart plays, and SD didn't look that great either.

The rookie really got schooled. Reminded me of the first game when Kevin Ross was a rookie.

Chief Faithful 09-14-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7003666)
Stop the run and you stop the Chiefs. No way you guys win more than 5 games.

Stop the Chiefs run like the Broncos? At least the Chargers put up a fight.


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