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ChiTown 09-29-2010 03:02 PM

Turner Gill has lost his fkng mind
 
Who gives a shit about cell phones, but a man needs pussy. Just sayin....

In Kansas, Turner Gill Becomes the Wizard of Odd

9/29/2010 12:39 PM ET By Clay Travis

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Clay Travis
Senior NCAA Writer
Want to be out after 10 at night in the presence of a woman? Good luck, if you're a football player in Lawrence, Kan. Correction, make that a college football player in Lawrence; high school gridders have greater freedoms these days than anyone on the Jayhawks.

The "no women after 10 p.m." rule is one of first-year head coach Turner Gill's rules for the Kansas football team. The rule isn't just for public interaction, you also violate it if you're in the presence of a woman at her place or yours. While Gill has acknowledged that proving a violation is difficult, according to KUSports.com, "he (Gill) explained the penalty would be more severe if a KU player was involved with an incident and it was discovered that the player had broken the policy."

More severe?

What if the player isn't doing anything at all but hanging out with a member of the opposite sex? And 10 at night? Ten? Coaches are fond of saying nothing good happens after midnight -- which is completely wrong, by the way. Expanding that cliche to encompass nothing good happening before the nightly news is over? Most nursing home residents are living scandalous lifestyles compared to the antediluvian restrictions that Gill is foisting upon his players.

Is Gill aware coed dorms exist? What happens then? Do players have to show up every morning at five to run wind sprints as penance for having the temerity to live in the same building with unmarried women? Already, despite the opposite-sex prohibitions, Kansas has lost to North Dakota State in its home opener. Can you imagine how badly the Jayhawks might have lost to North Dakota State if players had been allowed to speak with women after 10?

I can, it might have been 9-3 instead of 6-3.

In order to pull off this road win and counteract the female prohibition at Kansas, North Dakota State's entire team must have pledged to be celibate for the rest of their lives. A small price to pay for a Saturday win.

How can you expect a college student to behave like a man when you insist on treating him like a child?
Turner Gill's expansive directives aimed at controlling his players every waking moment are the latest examples of football coaches becoming more and more like totalitarian dictators each year. Freedom of communication grows for college students? Football coaches push back in the opposite direction, limiting those freedoms in a misguided attempt to tighten the reins of program discipline. Facebook? Some coaches are banning it. Twitter? Boise State's Chris Petersen began the banning rush in the offseason. Now, Kansas doesn't want its football players around women at night. What's next, players not allowed to have cell phones?

Too late.

Kansas players can't do that either, not in the 24 hours leading up to a game, anyway. That's because the Kansas coaching staff confiscates the players' cell phones and won't return them until after the game. I'm not making this up. They actually take the phones. A parent or family member needing to reach your child in the event of emergency? You call the director of football operations.

Keep in mind, these are grown-ass men. Not seventh graders. Not adolescents. Grown men who could serve their country overseas, grown men who may be parents themselves, grown men who are being treated like infants unable to make their own decisions and handle their own priorities. How can you expect a college student to behave like a man when you insist on treating him like a child? As countless parents have already learned, stifling personal freedom doesn't lead to growth, it leads to greater dependence.

Football coaches want their players to be gridiron monks, the Dalia Lama with a 425-pound bench press. They want automatons walled off from the rest of the world who believe that the full import of their lives begins and ends in the 60 minutes they spend each week on the football field. But in today's era doesn't that control defeat the entire purpose of attending college? If, as the NCAA constantly argues -- most of our athletes are going pro in something other than sports -- then how does it help athletes to wall them off from the surrounding community of students?

Nor does this even consider the legalities at play here. Can a coach even have a written rule that would limit contact with women after 10 at night? Can a coach demand that a player relinquish his physical property for a period of time if that player doesn't want to? As a lawyer, I don't think so. If a player challenged these rules, I think he'd be able to prove that they were beyond the scope of his scholarship acceptance.

Indeed, it's a true shame that Kansas' faculty has allowed restrictions like these to take root for any students, regardless of who they are or what group they're associated with. Imagine if, for instance, a student association on campus had a written policy that all members, under threat of penalty, could not speak to members of the opposite sex on campus after 10 at night. Would that pass without faculty comment? I doubt it.

Restrictions like these represent the antithesis of what collegiate life is supposed to entail. Most students learn more from each other than they ever do from their books. Most men learn more about women in college than they've ever learned before. Indeed, by restricting student interaction with the opposite sex to limited hours, Gill is sending the message to his team that women are the enemy, modern day Bathshebas, existing only to tempt and lead them astray from their true purpose on the campus.

Which is to play football games.

And that's ultimately the real issue here, all of these restrictions strip away the fig leaf of academia, that these players are regular students who just happen to play sports. The reality is something much different of course, these are football players who just happen to be students. By placing these restrictions on his players Gill proves that even as a 48-year-old coach he still hasn't learned the most important lesson a football player can learn.

There is life outside of football.

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/201...wizard-of-odd/

teedubya 09-29-2010 03:04 PM

Seriously, who the **** is going to CHOOSE to come to Kansas to play football?

This shit is gonna kill recruiting.

Oh well, I guess it's back to "Kansas Jayhawks have a football team?"

Jesus ****ing Christ. This is reeruned. **** you Turner Gill.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-29-2010 03:04 PM

Congratulations, your football coach is the black Jerry Falwell.

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:05 PM

The Kansas cock blockers.

Demonpenz 09-29-2010 03:05 PM

does playing with Jeff Graves titties count?

Titty Meat 09-29-2010 03:05 PM

KU will have the best football team in Heaven.

teedubya 09-29-2010 03:08 PM

Now, instead of focusing on football, they will be thinking about their cellphones and trying not to get caught ****ing their women.

Program killer. IMO

No top recruit will WANT to come to KU. Period.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-29-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7049116)
Seriously, who the **** is going to CHOOSE to come to Kansas to play football?

This shit is gonna kill recruiting.

Oh well, I guess it's back to "Kansas Jayhawks have a football team?"

Jesus ****ing Christ. This is reeruned. **** you Turner Gill.

Yeah. This guy is a program killer.

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:12 PM

I bet if you told them the next coach would prevent them from getting laid, they'd have said they were fine with Mangino choking them.

Pants 09-29-2010 03:13 PM

I'm not sure if Turner is aware of this, but college is pretty much THE time of your life to get all the pussy out of your system before you move on to responsible adulthood. This is probably the most insane thing I have heard all year. Seriously, what the ****?

/sigh

Pants 09-29-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7049145)
I bet if you told them the next coach would prevent them from getting laid, they'd have said they were fine with Mangino choking them.

Funny and sad at the same time. Jesus.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2010 03:15 PM

wow.....


Death = KU football...

kstater 09-29-2010 03:15 PM

ROFL

Chiefs Rool 09-29-2010 03:16 PM

Parents love that shit, but too bad everybody is gonna transfer.

BWillie 09-29-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7049145)
I bet if you told them the next coach would prevent them from getting laid, they'd have said they were fine with Mangino choking them.

:clap:

Sad but true. I think Turner Gill is going a little over the top right now, but didn't Tom Osborne have similar rules in his hayday?

Reerun_KC 09-29-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7049154)
ROFL

I think we are starting our Decade of WTF?

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:18 PM

KU has won a very prized award...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../cockblock.jpg

Titty Meat 09-29-2010 03:18 PM

This should make recruiting Kansas even more easier.

ChiTown 09-29-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Rool (Post 7049157)
Parents love that shit, but too bad everybody is gonna transfer.

Yeah, if they are planning to turn their son into a homo..................NTTAWWT

keg in kc 09-29-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7049128)
No top recruit will WANT to come to KU. Period.

So basically nothing has changed.

Pants 09-29-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7049165)

"a prized award"? LMAO

Lzen 09-29-2010 03:20 PM

From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:20 PM

On the bright side there will be a lot of available pussy for non football players on the campus.

-King- 09-29-2010 03:21 PM

No women?


Welcome to the NCAA Kansas Gaycocks.

Lzen 09-29-2010 03:21 PM

I also heard that Bill Snyder won't allow flatbilled hats or earrings. And you have to cover long hair.

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049176)
From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

So you like having a similar conduct policy as a Mormon school? Good luck with that...

ChiTown 09-29-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049176)
From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

Cell phones aren't really the issue, imo. I think KSU does that as well. It's the "No Trim After Ten" that's gonna hurt.

Pants 09-29-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049176)
From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

Unfortunately, Kansas is not full of raging Mormons who probably love the rules to begin with. This new policy is ****ing reeruned, Lzen, and deep down inside you know it too. :(

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-29-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049176)
From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

So a Christian school in Texas has a strict cell phone policy and two schools with an overwhelming Mormon population have strong personal conduct policies.

Color me shocked. Now, add both of those elements together and see how that helps your program.

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:24 PM

I remember when people were talking about how overly religious Gill is...now we see why that can turn into a problem.

Lzen 09-29-2010 03:24 PM

Where the **** are you idiots getting this "no women"? It's after 10pm. That's pretty easy to get around. Just have them over earlier. Or don't get caught doing something bad or illegal and nobody will ever know.

ChiTown 09-29-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049182)
I also heard that Bill Snyder won't allow flatbilled hats or earrings. And you have to cover long hair.

That is the rule inside the Vanier Football Complex - only.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-29-2010 03:24 PM

Oh, and if I'm a current player there, I just buy a "Pay as you Go Phone" and turn that sumbitch in every night while continuing to use my real phone.

Lzen 09-29-2010 03:25 PM

I never said I cared that much for the policy. I just understand what he's trying to do with it. That being said, I think you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Just my opinion, of course.

Titty Meat 09-29-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049193)
Where the **** are you idiots getting this "no women"? It's after 10pm. That's pretty easy to get around. Just have them over earlier. Or don't get caught doing something bad or illegal and nobody will ever know.

:doh!:

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-29-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049193)
Where the **** are you idiots getting this "no women"? It's after 10pm. That's pretty easy to get around. Just have them over earlier. Or don't get caught doing something bad or illegal and nobody will ever know.

It's always easy to bring home bitches from the club at 8:30.

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:26 PM

Cause you know the best parties happen at 4 in the afternoon!

siberian khatru 09-29-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7049187)
Cell phones aren't really the issue, imo. I think KSU does that as well. It's the "No Trim After Ten" that's gonna hurt.

ROFL

Oh, man, what a slogan. The possibilities for signage in opponents' stadiums ...

kstater 09-29-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049182)
I also heard that Bill Snyder won't allow flatbilled hats or earrings. And you have to cover long hair.

Difference being Bill Snyder is a proven coach.

Frazod 09-29-2010 03:27 PM

I love this guy! This is even better than Callahan going to Nebraska. ROFL

Mecca 09-29-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049200)
I never said I cared that much for the policy. I just understand what he's trying to do with it. That being said, I think you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Just my opinion, of course.

What's he trying to do? Impose his personal views on his team?

ChiTown 09-29-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7049202)
It's always easy to bring home bitches from the club at 8:30.

Unless you have a girlfriend, your not hittin' it before midnight.

kstater 09-29-2010 03:28 PM

Baby hurry up the clock's ticking.

Titty Meat 09-29-2010 03:29 PM

The plan to recruit aginst KU " Theres no pussy like new pussy"

siberian khatru 09-29-2010 03:31 PM

I wonder if all players eventually will have to take a "True Love Waits" pledge.

Pants 09-29-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7049213)
Unless you have a girlfriend, your not hittin' it before midnight.

Nah, as a football player, you're hitting it whenever you want, wherever you want. It's still a dumbass rule.

KCUnited 09-29-2010 03:35 PM

I hate pussy anyway. /wickedson

ChiTown 09-29-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 7049236)
I hate pussy anyway. /wickedson

ROFL

Hug it Out Dan 09-29-2010 03:36 PM

HAHAHA, this is going to KILL recruiting there.

Part of going to college is to MEET/INTERACT WOMEN.

I wonder how many players will get suspended for violating this stupid rule. I would quit the ****ing team and request for a transfer. That shit is stupid. You can play football and go to school, and have fun while being responsible. Yes kids are going to do stupid shit and get into trouble sometimes. That's life. He's turning players college experience into a ****ing corrections facility.

Even the cell phone thing is over the edge......maybe if they were in a big bowl game on the road or something if they really wanna be strict about it. But Gill's a ****in moron.

Saulbadguy 09-29-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049182)
I also heard that Bill Snyder won't allow flatbilled hats or earrings. And you have to cover long hair.

Bill Snyder does not allow butter pats at the training table.

|Zach| 09-29-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 7049236)
I hate pussy anyway. /wickedson

ROFL

Hug it Out Dan 09-29-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049193)
Where the **** are you idiots getting this "no women"? It's after 10pm. That's pretty easy to get around. Just have them over earlier. Or don't get caught doing something bad or illegal and nobody will ever know.

Were you the one growing up where you had to be home by 9pm?

Titty Meat 09-29-2010 03:43 PM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7622540_n.jpg

Hug it Out Dan 09-29-2010 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049176)
From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

Well he's not winning games he should, and he just made it harder on himself.

no recruit in their right mind is gonna want to deal with this shit.

Hug it Out Dan 09-29-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7049196)
Oh, and if I'm a current player there, I just buy a "Pay as you Go Phone" and turn that sumbitch in every night while continuing to use my real phone.

bingo

Fritz88 09-29-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7049166)
This should make recruiting Kansas even more easier.

It should make firing his ass easier.

DeezNutz 09-29-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7049200)
I never said I cared that much for the policy. I just understand what he's trying to do with it. That being said, I think you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Just my opinion, of course.

This post is blowing it at 5:00 PM, and Turner Gill says that's fine. It's that after-10:00 ass that saps the strength.

Rooster 09-29-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7049166)
This should make recruiting Kansas even more easier.

They can only target gay football players.

Pitt Gorilla 09-29-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7049194)
That is the rule inside the Vanier Football Complex - only.

What could possibly be wrong with a flat-billed hat? Aren't they sold that way?

I think my dad wore his seed caps that way for 50 years.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-29-2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7049309)
What could possibly be wrong with a flat-billed hat? Aren't they sold that way?

I think my dad wore his seed caps that way for 50 years.

Considered too "gangsta".

ChiTown 09-29-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7049309)
What could possibly be wrong with a flat-billed hat? Aren't they sold that way?

I think my dad wore his seed caps that way for 50 years.

No Hats inside of Vanier - Flat-billed or otherwise

Hug it Out Dan 09-29-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7049309)
What could possibly be wrong with a flat-billed hat? Aren't they sold that way?

I think my dad wore his seed caps that way for 50 years.

only thugs (white or black) wear flat billed 50/50 hats, leave the damn stickers on, tilt them sideways, looks reeruned.

Pitt Gorilla 09-29-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7049312)
Considered too "gangsta".

Yeah, that was my pops. RIP.

Adept Havelock 09-29-2010 04:11 PM

Heh, nice. Another self-inflicted shot in the foot for Kansas.

Pitt Gorilla 09-29-2010 04:11 PM

Eh, on the positive side, it appears that it's still ok for the Gay U dudes to be with other dudes post 10 pm. NTTIAWWT.

Pants 09-29-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7049321)
Eh, on the positive side, it appears that it's still ok for the Gay U dudes to be with other dudes post 10 pm. NTTIAWWT.

Original and funny. :facepalm:

Bwana 09-29-2010 05:16 PM

:facepalm:

1945 called, it wants it rules back.

http://www.valleycollege.edu/Images/...tball_team.jpg

Bugeater 09-29-2010 05:20 PM

I remember Pitt Gorilla asking why Nebraska didn't hire the guy. I assume he has the answer to that question now.

Bambi 09-29-2010 05:38 PM

The story about KU players not having girls over was reported weeks ago.

Not sure what this fuss is about.

It's a pretty common practice at many schools.

Bambi 09-29-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan (Post 7049261)
Well he's not winning games he should, and he just made it harder on himself.

no recruit in their right mind is gonna want to deal with this shit.

No but he's already won games that he apparently had no chance in.

They would have run over NDSU easy had the right guys been on the field at the time.

Is that the coach's fault? Hell yes, but if that loss means the team gels quicker then I'll take it.

kstater 09-29-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7049484)
The story about KU players not having girls over was reported weeks ago.

Not sure what this fuss is about.

It's a pretty common practice at many schools.

Show me 1 non-religious nut school that forbids players from having face to face contact with females after 10 pm.

Bambi 09-29-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7049495)
Show me 1 non-religious nut school that forbids players from having face to face contact with females after 10 pm.

Want my honest opinion? I think this is something for the 1st year that they'll look to change in the future.

Just like the no names on the jerseys thing... I don't think that's here for the long term either.

He wanted to shock them. And he has.

Brock 09-29-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7049484)
The story about KU players not having girls over was reported weeks ago.

Not sure what this fuss is about.

It's a pretty common practice at many schools.

Places like Bob Jones U.

kstater 09-29-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7049499)
Want my honest opinion? I think this is something for the 1st year that they'll look to change in the future.

Just like the no names on the jerseys thing... I don't think that's here for the long term either.

He wanted to shock them. And he has.

This happens everywhere. Schools. List. Go.

-King- 09-29-2010 05:46 PM

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8930/24304046.png

DeezNutz 09-29-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7049499)
He wanted to shock them. And he has.

Shockers allowed only before 10:00 PM.

rockymtnchief 09-29-2010 05:55 PM

Campus maintenance will revolt. Coed dorms will be filled with glory holes.

kstater 09-29-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7049521)
Shockers allowed only before 10:00 PM.

Can you imagine what Gill would do if he learned a player had given the shocker to someone?

Reerun_KC 09-29-2010 05:58 PM

Does this mean we cant have some drank in the film rooms or meeting rooms now?

Reerun_KC 09-29-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7049532)
Can you imagine what Gill would do if he learned a player had given the shocker to someone?

Ten Hail Marys while kneeling on a board of nails?


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