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chris 10-02-2010 01:55 PM

Watch and Learn Big 12...the Big Boys are playing!
 
Oklahoma vs. Texas.

The winner will win the Big 12...as usual.

OU up by 7 after opening drive.

DaKCMan AP 10-02-2010 01:57 PM

Both teams (especially Texas) look like little girls this year.

KCUnited 10-02-2010 01:57 PM

Ah, your the Holtus of the south.

BWillie 10-02-2010 01:58 PM

The Big 12 isn't second fiddle to the SEC anymore this year. They are third fiddle to SEC and the Big 10 and maybe even the PAC 10.

chris 10-02-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 7055521)
Ah, your the Holtus of the south.

nah, just a biased OU fan.

KCUnited 10-02-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 7055526)
nah, just a biased OU fan.

They are gashing the hell out of TX

RealSNR 10-02-2010 02:02 PM

Were you the same guy who called Boise State little league after they beat you in the Fiesta Bowl?

chris 10-02-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7055520)
Both teams (especially Texas) look like little girls this year.

Texas may wearing a dress; OU up by 14 after 10 minutes.

Bowser 10-02-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7055520)
Both teams (especially Texas) look like little girls this year.

Florida couldn't beat Boise State this year, but that's another topic.

chris 10-02-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7055533)
Were you the same guy who called Boise State little league after they beat you in the Fiesta Bowl?

nope. I praised them.

OU didn't wake up till the 3rd qty and by then Boise knew they could beat OU.

Bowser 10-02-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7055533)
Were you the same guy who called Boise State little league after they beat you in the Fiesta Bowl?

Wasn't that supercoupe91, or somesuch?

keg in kc 10-02-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7055524)
The Big 12 isn't second fiddle to the SEC anymore this year. They are third fiddle to SEC and the Big 10 and maybe even the PAC 10.

Yep.

But they're stronger than the big least and ASS, I mean ACC.

At least they have that!

chris 10-02-2010 02:09 PM

#26 is one fast mother for UT. Faster than Charles?

Touchdown

DaKCMan AP 10-02-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7055539)
Florida couldn't beat Boise State this year, but that's another topic.

Because you say so? ROFL

Titty Meat 10-02-2010 02:22 PM

Nebraska > Either team

chris 10-02-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7055578)
Nebraska > Either team

In your dreams. :)

We'll probably find out later this year...if you get past MU.

crispystl 10-02-2010 02:48 PM

How does everyone think MU stacks up?

beach tribe 10-02-2010 02:53 PM

I thought you were going to say the SEC was playing.

keg in kc 10-02-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 7055609)
How does everyone think MU stacks up?

My opinion as an outsider is that they don't have the weapons to compete with the talent on these teams although they're good enough that it shouldn't be embarrassing.

Bowser 10-02-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7055621)
My opinion as an outsider is that they don't have the weapons to compete with the talent on these teams although they're good enough that it shouldn't be embarrassing.

Pretty much. They've closed the gap a tad talent wise, certainly scheme wise on defense, but Pinkel's insistance on running a pure spread attack holds Mizzou back, imo. They are what they are every year - an 8-10 win team that won't win the Big XII.

crispystl 10-02-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7055635)
Pretty much. They've closed the gap a tad talent wise, certainly scheme wise on defense, but Pinkel's insistance on running a pure spread attack holds Mizzou back, imo. They are what they are every year - an 8-10 win team that won't win the Big XII.

Pinkel needs to add a couple of formations. He is stubborn. By the way he was on my flight this summer seemed like a really nice guy. Flew coach and didn't even sit next to his family lol (saving money I guess). I'll put it this way I got the cheapest freaking flight I could find and he had the same seats I did except they split the family apart.

crispystl 10-02-2010 03:03 PM

What about in the North how does MU stack up against Nebraska?

keg in kc 10-02-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7055635)
Pretty much. They've closed the gap a tad talent wise, certainly scheme wise on defense, but Pinkel's insistance on running a pure spread attack holds Mizzou back, imo. They are what they are every year - an 8-10 win team that won't win the Big XII.

The pro set might be good for Gabbert, but whatever system they run, they don't have a big-time runningback or game-breaking receiver. They could really use their own Daniel Thomas and maybe TJ Moe will be something but he's not Franklin or Macklin or Denario Alexander and I don't think there's a Rucker or a Coffman at tight end.

keg in kc 10-02-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 7055641)
What about in the North how does MU stack up against Nebraska?

It's a road game I think. I'm not expecting much from Missouri in that one, as much as I hate nebraska.

Bowser 10-02-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 7055641)
What about in the North how does MU stack up against Nebraska?

As much as I hate to say it as a Mizzou guy, it looks like Nebraska has the edge with their offense vs. our d, and our d vs. their offense. Now, having said that, Nebraska looks like they could turn into a streaky team if things don't go their way, and as good a coach as Pellini is, he is volatile if things are tight, and that could not translate well to the players if he's stressing in a big game. It's hard to say since Nebraska really hasn't been tested yet. Mizzou, on the other hand, seems to have that nasty habit of playing up or down, depending on the team.

I fully expect a Mizzou loss in Lincoln this year. Maybe not by much, but a loss.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-02-2010 03:22 PM

Big 10 can blow me.

beer bacon 10-02-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7055621)
My opinion as an outsider is that they don't have the weapons to compete with the talent on these teams although they're good enough that it shouldn't be embarrassing.

Less talented teams Big 12 teams have been beating these teams, especially Texas, since the Big 12 was formed. Despite having the best talent basically every season, Texas has only won the Big 12 two or three times.

beer bacon 10-02-2010 07:42 PM

Every team in the Big 12 this year looks like they could lay an egg and lose any given game. I wouldn't bet money on MU beating OU this year, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

keg in kc 10-02-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 7056214)
Less talented teams Big 12 teams have been beating these teams, especially Texas, since the Big 12 was formed. Despite having the best talent basically every season, Texas has only won the Big 12 two or three times.

Missouri doesn't play Texas. They play Oklahoma and Nebraska back-to-back, one home, one road. Those were the teams I was referring to there...

I'm not sure I like the odds for the Tigers in either of those games, although I hope they win them both. I'd probably favor them in every other game on their schedule although at aTm and at Texas Tech will both be trouble.

(nasty four games in a row there)

chris 10-02-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7056220)
Missouri doesn't play Texas. They play Oklahoma and Nebraska back-to-back, one home, one road. Those were the teams I was referring to there...

I'm not sure I like the odds for the Tigers in either of those games, although I hope they win them both. I'd probably favor them in every other game on their schedule although at aTm and at Texas Tech will both be trouble.

(nasty four games in a row there)

If OU does not learn how to put away teams, MU may very well beat them. Last two weeks, they have had 14pt 4th quarter leads and let the other team back into the game.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-02-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7055520)
Both teams (especially Texas) look like little girls this year.

I was hoping the field would combust in to a giant AIDS-Fire.

Stanley Nickels 10-02-2010 11:27 PM

I think Mizzou will beat aTm, but lose one or both to OU/NU. I like Gary Pinkel, but I don't subscribe to the oft-used "Hate Pinkel? It was terrible before he got here!!" philosophy of some Missourians. Fact is, Missouri has the talent to play better than it does. Dave Yost will either have to mature or improve, or this team's in trouble. Why? Because Pinkel, God love 'im, is far too committed to his coaching "family". He doesn't fire people-- hell, even Eburflus found a job in the pros instead of being fired. I just don't think Pinkel wants to fire anyone because he doesn't want to be the bad guy. Missouri should win the Big 12 once a decade. Period. That sounds paltry and insulting, but they haven't done it! I'm a Mizzou guy through and through, but I like Mike Anderson in three years tenure much more than I do Pinkel in ten.

alanm 10-03-2010 01:15 AM

I don't know what to make of either team. Oklahoma or Texas so far this year. Oklahoma's play is streaky. And they lose focus a lot.
Texas I almost feel sorry for. Almost. Their wandering lost in the wilderness at the moment. I read that they were in the top 25 since Oct 2000 and after today that is history. Must be a epic meltdown in Texas today after everyone wakes up with hangovers after pounding Lonestar beer to drown their sorrows. :D

buddha 10-03-2010 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7055648)
The pro set might be good for Gabbert, but whatever system they run, they don't have a big-time runningback or game-breaking receiver. They could really use their own Daniel Thomas and maybe TJ Moe will be something but he's not Franklin or Macklin or Denario Alexander and I don't think there's a Rucker or a Coffman at tight end.

FAIL.

Henry Josey...remember that name. Kid is turbo fast...father used to hold the U.S. 100 meter record. Josey is faster than any MU RB I've ever seen play and that goes back 45 years of going to games.

TJ Moe has more than met expectations, and almost single handedly pulled MU's bacon out of the fire against SDSU. He has made more of an impact at this point of his career than did Franklin or Alexander...no mortal can compare to Maclin.

Egnew has been excellent at TE, and is extremely athletic. He compares very favorably to Rucker or Coffman, and projects better at the next level than either of the other two.

MU's spread isn't perfectly suited to Gabbert the way it was for Daniel. However, from what I saw of the Whorns yesterday, MU could definitely beat them this year. We'll see how things go with OU in a few weeks in Columbia.

Sam Hall 10-03-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 7055516)
Oklahoma vs. Texas.

The winner will win the Big 12...as usual.

OU up by 7 after opening drive.

The Huskers would like to have a word with you.

keg in kc 10-03-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 7056744)
FAIL.

Henry Josey...remember that name. Kid is turbo fast...father used to hold the U.S. 100 meter record. Josey is faster than any MU RB I've ever seen play and that goes back 45 years of going to games.

TJ Moe has more than met expectations, and almost single handedly pulled MU's bacon out of the fire against SDSU. He has made more of an impact at this point of his career than did Franklin or Alexander...no mortal can compare to Maclin.

Egnew has been excellent at TE, and is extremely athletic. He compares very favorably to Rucker or Coffman, and projects better at the next level than either of the other two.

MU's spread isn't perfectly suited to Gabbert the way it was for Daniel. However, from what I saw of the Whorns yesterday, MU could definitely beat them this year. We'll see how things go with OU in a few weeks in Columbia.

You can fantasize about projections all you want. I'm talking about right now, in 2010. Get back to me when Josey has more than 10 carries in a game.

BigCatDaddy 10-03-2010 10:36 AM

The Big 12 is down this year, but the Big 10 is down every year. Another shit showing by OSU against a team that Missouri beat by 10. The PAC 10 is good this year despite USC sllipping and the SEC as always is the best conference.

chris 10-03-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 7056797)
The Huskers would like to have a word with you.

OU moves ahead of NU in the AP poll.

The issue will be decided in the B12 championship game. That is, if neither team stumbles along the way.

vailpass 10-03-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7055578)
Nebraska > Either team

We'll see if they are better than UT next week. Hope NEB can pull it off. Then NEB-OU head-to-head will happen.

alanm 10-03-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 7056977)
OU moves ahead of NU in the AP poll.

The issue will be decided in the B12 championship game. That is, if neither team stumbles along the way.

Huskers have a pretty tough 4 game stretch starting Thursday. KState/Texas/ Ok St./ Mizzou. They get through that I'll start to breath a little easier.
October hasn't been kind to the Huskers in the last 6-7 years. :shake:


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