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petegz28 10-10-2010 02:18 PM

This loss was squarley on Cassel
 
I know, Bowe dropped a huge pass. Shit happens and that did not cost us the game. What cost us the game, imo, is Cassel going to Bowe regardless of coverage on the 4th and goal play. Castille was wide open but Cassel decided to not even look that way.

Cassel continued not to check off when Indy had 9 guys in the box.

Cassle would not take a shot down the field for anything save 1 pass to Moeaki.

I think our offensive line is blocking well enough to keep Croyle healthy. Cassel has not taken many sacks this year.


So Matt Cassel, go **** yourself with a razorblade soaked in anti-freeze.

We had every chance to win this game and should have. We should have buried the Colts.

FloridaMan88 10-10-2010 02:19 PM

The Chiefs had to coach and play around their $63 million QB.

There are no excuses... he's not a rookie, this is his third full season as an NFL starting QB.

This is who he is.

Fritz88 10-10-2010 02:23 PM

Dallas Clark dropped two passes. Garcon ****ed up it in another throw.

But Petyon came right back and connected with them.

Cassel does not know how to do that.

MadMax 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7076683)
The Chiefs had to coach and play around their $63 million QB.

There are no excuses... he's not a rookie, this is his third full season as an NFL starting QB.

This is who he is.




And it's ugly as ****!!!

notorious 10-10-2010 02:28 PM

Cassel is just.......worthless.


It is time to put him out of our misery.

Bugeater 10-10-2010 02:29 PM

Awesome, I was beginning to worry that Pete wouldn't show up and start a thread about something that was already being discussed in six other threads.

BigVE 10-10-2010 02:33 PM

Yes, our QB had a rough game, but to put this loss squarely on his shoulders is a bit short sighted. IF D-bowe catches the sure (well thrown) TD pass then we are kicking for the TIE at the end of the game and who knows what might have happened from there...not a bad spot to be in on the road. Now, our QB did not have a good game but he was adequate most of the game. Those easy dropped passes hurt bad. FWIW, I would like to see what Croyle can do with this line and running game...at least he's not scared to throw it down the field a little.

FAX 10-10-2010 02:37 PM

He is a little squarley.

I don't know if I've ever disliked a Chiefs quarterback more ... and I've absolutely despised some past Chiefs quarterbacks. It's too bad for him that there isn't a professional league for big, blind doofuses.

FAX

petegz28 10-10-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE (Post 7076870)
Yes, our QB had a rough game, but to put this loss squarely on his shoulders is a bit short sighted. IF D-bowe catches the sure (well thrown) TD pass then we are kicking for the TIE at the end of the game and who knows what might have happened from there...not a bad spot to be in on the road. Now, our QB did not have a good game but he was adequate most of the game. Those easy dropped passes hurt bad. FWIW, I would like to see what Croyle can do with this line and running game...at least he's not scared to throw it down the field a little.

Squarley on his shoulders. We can't run the ball every ****ing down. He has to be able to complete 15 yard passes. And that noodle-arm throw he made when he scrambled was ****ing horrific.

Gracie Dean 10-10-2010 02:44 PM

Well Said!!!

BigRichard 10-10-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE (Post 7076870)
Yes, our QB had a rough game, but to put this loss squarely on his shoulders is a bit short sighted. IF D-bowe catches the sure (well thrown) TD pass then we are kicking for the TIE at the end of the game and who knows what might have happened from there...not a bad spot to be in on the road. Now, our QB did not have a good game but he was adequate most of the game. Those easy dropped passes hurt bad. FWIW, I would like to see what Croyle can do with this line and running game...at least he's not scared to throw it down the field a little.

One very bad play by Bowe < Every bad play by Cassel the entire game

Cassel is the best high school QB to play in the NFL

farmerchief 10-10-2010 02:45 PM

Is Cassel really this bad? I cannot believe he does not survey the field more when looking for a receiver to be open. Or, is the play calling at fault, for not having more options to throw to? I think it is the former and not the latter. He does a terrible job of looking for other recievers, and the force to Bowe in traffic, was horrible!

I, also, would like to see Brodie get a shot. Unless the play calling limits you trying a throw down the field to stretch the defense?

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7076905)
He is a little squarley.

I don't know if I've ever disliked a Chiefs quarterback more ... and I've absolutely despised some past Chiefs quarterbacks. It's too bad for him that there isn't a professional league for big, blind doofuses.

FAX

yup, I prefer Grbac over this Matt Cassel fellow

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 7076975)
Is Cassel really this bad? I cannot believe he does not survey the field more when looking for a receiver to be open. Or, is the play calling at fault, for not having more options to throw to? I think it is the former and not the latter. He does a terrible job of looking for other recievers, and the force to Bowe in traffic, was horrible!

I, also, would like to see Brodie get a shot. Unless the play calling limits you trying a throw down the field to stretch the defense?

It is limited....due to Cassel

petegz28 10-10-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 7076975)
Is Cassel really this bad? I cannot believe he does not survey the field more when looking for a receiver to be open. Or, is the play calling at fault, for not having more options to throw to? I think it is the former and not the latter. He does a terrible job of looking for other recievers, and the force to Bowe in traffic, was horrible!

I, also, would like to see Brodie get a shot. Unless the play calling limits you trying a throw down the field to stretch the defense?

What probably irks me the most is when Cassel sees the line stacked and he doesn't change the play. Either they aren't letting him, which is the coach's fault or he doesn't get it. I seem to think the latter since this is the NFL.

tk13 10-10-2010 02:47 PM

You have to spread the blame around a bit. There were three plays that changed the game.

Cassel's horrible 4th down throw.
Charles fumble when we were gashing them.
Bowe's killer drop right after the INT.

But that's what the great teams don't do. The game might have changed on any of those three plays. I think that Bowe's drop was the killer, just because we'd made the INT and finally broke Peyton, we had them on the ropes, and we went for the kill shot and the lead.

KCUnited 10-10-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7077000)
You have to spread the blame around a bit. There were three plays that changed the game.

Cassel's horrible 4th down throw.
Charles fumble when we were gashing them.
Bowe's killer drop right after the INT.

But that's what the great teams don't do.

Castille up the gut on 3rd down

Rausch 10-10-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 7076666)
I know, Bowe dropped a huge pass. Shit happens and that did not cost us the game.

Are you ****ing reeruned!?!

This might be the one game I WOULDN'T put on Cassel.

And POINT ****ING BLANK: TRADE BOWE.

If you can't catch you are completely worthless as a ****ing WR.

**** Haley's tactics and experiments - DONE...

notorious 10-10-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7077037)


And POINT ****ING BLANK: TRADE BOWE.

If you can't catch you are completely worthless as a ****ing WR.


I agree 100%. Bowe should be shown the door before practice tommorow. He is worthless.

kcfanXIII 10-10-2010 02:53 PM

Cassel is terrible. Cassirble? You can add me to the Grbac>Cassel camp as well. At least Elvis could throw it downfield.

KCUnited 10-10-2010 02:56 PM

Bowe dropped that ball that was the difference against NE in the Pollard Bowl, guys a clown and that's it.

bevischief 10-10-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7077037)
Are you ****ing reeruned!?!

This might be the one game I WOULDN'T put on Cassel.

And POINT ****ING BLANK: TRADE BOWE.

If you can't catch you are completely worthless as a ****ing WR.

**** Haley's tactics and experiments - DONE...

THIS BIG TIME!
Bowe needs to go somewhere else.

Rasputin 10-10-2010 03:25 PM

As much as I hate Cassel (I ****ing hate Cassel) Bowes drops made arguments about the fifty+ drops last year like a legit argument. Catch the damn ball!

Our defense kept us in the game till the four minute mark in the fourth quarter & if we could have keapt drives going in the third quarter and possible points on the board we could have won this game. Our defense played a damn good game, but can't expect Manning not to score when he get's the ball back after short drives by our offense.

Next week is going to be a character game to show if we can respond to a loss with a win. Cassel and the offense have got to learn how to matriculate the ball down field and make opportunities to score TDs. We have got to produce in the red zone but we allso have to keep drives alive to get into the redzone.


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