Anyone hear Bill Maas yesterday?
 

I honestly don't think this guy watches the games.

I sat in my car yesterday listening to him go off on people who were bashing Cassel. He was furious because he claimed that the offensive line was the problem, not the QB. When someone called in and said that that offensive line was the same line that was producing the 3rd best rushing attack in the league, he basically said bullsh*t. That if the line were that good then Cassel would be great.

His (almost) exact words were, "If we have the 3rd best rushing attack, then we should have the 2nd or 3rd best passing attack. I could put you (referring to Shaun Sharif (sp)) back there and have success off play action passing."

He then went on to say that the reason we were running screens and reverses is because we have an offensive line that can't block, so we have to go with misdirection to cover up the blemishes.

Aside from the fact that I only remember running one screen yesterday and zero reverses, here we have a former defensive lineman who's absolutely clueless about the offensive line. The 2001-2005 Chiefs teams, with arguably the best O-line in the game at the time, ran basically nothing but screens and misdirection plays.

He might be the biggest Cassel apologist I've heard. Though, he was also the guy that said during training camp that this team would be scoring around 30 points per game and that "they'll need to because the defense is going to be giving up 30 points per game."

Wow. I didnt know Saccopoo had his own show.

He's a coke-addled meathead, why would you take anything that he has to say even remotely seriously?

Ex-players are often the worst sources to go to for a lot of this information. Case in point, John Hannah, who when doing a podcast with Bill Simmons a month ago claimed that the running game was far more sophisticated and difficult to install than the passing game. Granted, he has a point, because if you look at 8 year old football, you see nothing but Air Coryell all over the place, and the vast majorities of high schools don't just run the option or a Power I 90% of the time.

He also said during camp that Croyle would go on to have a successful career as a starter in the NFL once he left KC.

Kietzman & Petro must have been listening to him because they are agreeing with him.

I guess I don't take him that seriously, but it's still infuriating to listen to stupidity in the wake of a loss. What made it worse was how pissed he was getting about it. I ended up changing the station when he said the reasons we were running "all those screens and reverses" was to cover up for a poor offensive line.

I wanted so bad to call in and bring up 01-05, but I probably would have gotten into a wreck.

Ever since 810 got that deal where they do Chiefs stuff they will not critique anything at all.

I feel you. Again, it's another example of how status does not make the opinion invaluable.

"Hey, are you a GM?"

Matt ****ing Millen was a GM, for ****'s sake.

Well there you go. There's that, and the fact that he's a pretty unintelligent person. Put the two together and you've got the ingredients for a really bad and uninteresting show. But hey, I'm sure his Mother loves him, so he's got that going for him...

Quite true.

Which reminds me, Maas kept trying to big-time the callers.

"How much football did you play in your life?? I played a lot and I studied the numbers!!"

I agree with his point about the o-line, but I would call them average. We have gotten some breaks and had some running plays called at just the right time that makes it look better than it is. I am sure Bill would agree that some of it is on the running backs, they do the best with what they got to work with.

Just like Matt.

Kill yourself

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Matt just has no pocket presence so it makes everything look worse then it is. Dude will run when he has time, he will stay in the pocket when he doesnt have time. He panic's way to easy.

Matt just sucks. Oline has been playing fine. There are plenty of teams that dont have good offensive lines, but because they have a QB that knows what he's doing, they are fine.

Again, Cassel is just terrible.

Bill Maas visits the planet from time to time. He has an account here. Had one since 2005.

Bill Maas sucks, i still remember when i was younger he was supposed to come to our local hyvee to sign autographs, needless to say he no showed a few chiefs cheerleaders were there instead. I was pissed at the time, but didn't realize he did all of us a favor.

Petro pretty much said earlier that Cassel is at best Delhomme and he isnt a franchise QB

He can't be that much of a Cassel apologist because I heard him saying that he was confident that the Chiefs coaching staff knows that Brodie Croyle is the best QB on the roster.

thats part of the deal you make when you sell yourself to the Chiefs.

It's strange to me that there are those who continue to support Mark Casswipe's play on the field. It seems as though some people have an agenda that really doesn't involve stuff like completed passes, first downs, or scores.

Although I initially thought that NE employed an impressive marketing tactic by franchising the guy, the 2nd we used on him didn't seem overly expensive at the time, and they didn't spend my money on him or break the cap bank with his contract, so I was okay with that. In short, I was more than willing to give him every opportunity to convert me into a fan.

He's done just the opposite, though. His play is so bad ... so scared ... so inept ... so slow ... so devastatingly awful ... that I don't see how anyone could continue to support him. Yet, he gets a pass ... from many in the local media, from the coaches (apparently), and from many among the Chiefs kingdom. I don't get it.

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I don't share your love for LJ (at all), but I think there's some truth to the idea that the offensive line is probably around average and that the coaching is covering up for it to some extent. If they were really a good offensive line, we'd occasionally line up and power forward for a yard in short yardage situations, but they don't really ever do that. For example, last week on the 4th down play that they rushed into after first having their punt team in the game. On that play, they run a tricky sweep rather than just lining up and bulldozing some people.

showed up and i couldnt figure out why him and his women used the bathroom 3 times each in an hour.

This really goes to prove that some players have the muscles but zero brains.

It's true, just go back and watch the games you will see that they get big runs when the LBs are in pass coverage. When they need to get the hard yards they have to pass the ball or run it around the end. That's NOT and great running game, running it over your face is.

except no linebackers are really in pass coverage because Matt ****ing Cassel is the qb. NO one is scared of him. so whydrop everyone back? makes no sense. Gameplan to beat the Chiefs is stop the run.

Have you seen our gameplan.Weiss doesnt even trust Cassel. If he did, he wouldnt have said, i need to fix the QB. he would have said, i need to make the offense better.

With WRs like Bo what do you expect?

Plus what you said is bullshit and you know it.

I bet you think the forward pass is just a phase.

No but if we are trying to bring back Marty ball we need a short yardage running game.

Play defense and run the ball.

I think bringing back Martyball is the furthest thing from Haley's mind. He's just working with what he's got this year.

He even got the addiction cliche wrong. He was talking about how if you are around sober people you remain sober like the way BOWE was around Larry Fitzgerold made him better during camp. This is exactly the opposite I ever heard at my many addiction meetings, being you around sober people makes you as sober as sitting in a garage makes you a car. ****ing idiot.

Funny that's what I just said about Matt.

****ing tards. If they just read the Chiefs Planet, they'd know our offensive line is completely solid and kicking ass. What the **** do people in sports know? Nothing apparently.

Shut the **** up.

Kicking ass. The offensive line.

Kicking ass.

People don't know anything around here and never watch football. If they did, they'd know the offensive line is completely solid and is kicking ass.

Mike Gollic(?) on yesterday's game: "The Chiefs sure are a fun team to watch"
WTF was fun about yesterday's game

Neither of them were agreeing that the line sucked. In fact, Kietzman said today that he thought the line was playing well. And it is. It's not spectacular, but good enough to protect the least-sacked QB in the league (currently at 3 sacks, would have been 2 if Cassel hadn't Keystone Cop'd himself into a sack yesterday).

Point being, the line is less of a problem than a QB who is being paid $10+ mil per year to hand the ball off and not throw interceptions.

Bullshit. I was told certain players were "ascending" and "kicking ass."

Kicking ass is kicking ass. That's damn near the polar opposite of "not spectactular."

I mean, we could theorize about why they are having Cassel dink and dunk and sweeps and nifty little tricks and the like, but we all know that would be hypothetical blather as it's been stated here repeatedly that the o-line is "kicking ass."

Which he followed by saying he was perfectly fine with that.

You sound bitter.

This really isn't working out for you bub....

This is the problem.

You don't pay a QB that kind of money, and trade away a high draft pick, unless you're convinced he's the guy to build your team around. You can pay Rex Grossman, or Todd Collins, $1 mil to simply "not screw up" for a few seasons. But that's not what they acquired Cassel for. They got him to be a franchise QB. Now, everyone's realizing that he's not a franchise QB. This is an indictment on Pioli. And true to revisionists history, people in the local media are justifying his performance with comments such as, "He is what he is."

Yeah, he's an inaccurate QB who get's paid $10 million per year to hand the ball off to Jamaal Charles, and not throw interceptions.

Hell, I remember when Pioli first got here and was extremely stand-offish with the media. Kietzman defended him when the Cassel trade surfaced by saying (something to the effect of), "I understand now why they've been so secretive. They made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise."

Now, I take most of what he says with a grain of salt. However, I think many people felt sort of this way. That we had made a huge acquisition that would eventually propel this team to the next level.

Now, we have fans and the media hoping for Trent Dilfer, or Jake Delhomme. It's depressing.

This season, if he's ends up being Trent Dilfer, fine. But we better cut his ass the second we lose in the first round to the Jets because he went 1 for 7 on 3rd down.

There were people here who knew what he was before the move was ever made that's why all that talk was met with facepalms a year and a half ago. There was the 180 because he was the Chiefs new QB by a lot of people and now we're back to where we were before the trade was made...about 2% of people like him or want him.

The guy's reads are just flat-out terrible. He had a wide-open receiver on that "go for it" play, and just completely ignored him.

Dude, seriously. Just stop. Pretty much this ENTIRE board will tell you our line is playing well. How many times has Matt been sacked?

I'd be willing to bet these hacks on the air are talking shit to get listeners. Its what they do. You, however are just a moron and a drama queen.

If you're talking about the TD that Bowe dropped, just stop. If not, please explain.

But yet it's funny to see that it's suddenly the O-line that deserves the credit for Cassel not getting sacked after they were responsible for getting him drilled 47 times last season.

It couldn't possibly be that the coaching staff is trying to get the ball out of his hands substantially quicker this season.

It couldn't be that Cassel is finally figuring out how to avoid sacks. (See sentence above.)

It couldn't be that they are utilizing quick slants, running sweeps, end runs, etc. to minimize QB pressure.

It's got to be that the offensive line has had an epiphany and went from super bad to kicking ass overnight.

I'd be willing to bet that they've been in the business of looking at sports, analyzing sports and talking sports (and in the instance of Bill Maas, playing sports) and have a general understanding of what's going on.

Yeah, because a quarterback controversy wouldn't stir as much shit as saying that the coaching staff is putting in a lot of effort to mask shitty offensive line play.

Talking about the offensive line is much more controversial and fire branding than trying to pull in listeners with a "start Croyle" campaign. I mean, other than around here anyway.

Yep. You are right and everyone else is wrong and a moron. Typical response from self-appointed, self-aggrandizing know it alls.

Maas is completely right. The Oline is not fixed yet and can't pass block worth shit.

You're learning this now?

Is in any great mystery to anyone that Cassel rarely sees the other guys who in some instances happen to be open, yet he throws in to coverage?

And dude; **** Dewayne Bowe.

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I only trust Maas's opinion when it comes to Guns and blow.