Peter King: Flowers call, worst interference call of the year
 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...17/mmqb/5.html



The interference call on Brandon Flowers to help seal Kansas City's defeat. Should have been offensive pass interference on Andre Johnson, obviously, but went against the Chiefs and capped their 21-point fourth-quarter meltdown. Worst interference call of the year.




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...17/mmqb/3.html

13. Kansas City (3-2). Sorry. An official decided that game at Houston. If the Chiefs and Texans play tomorrow in Wichita, I'm taking Kansas City.

Meh. The football gods atoned by giving us a BS interference call in the Denver game.

I think the call would bother me alot more if he didn't get his feet down. If this had just been a no call, it would have been a bad call, but not epically bad. Receivers get away with murder in the NFL, sometimes literally.

Why would they play in Wichita?

omg another thread full of whining geting fired up? There's already one on here, lol.

yes, the call sucked, but plenty of calls suck. The refs could care less about Houston or throwing the game. Let it go.

Wow didn't expect that from King.

"Should have been offensive pass interference on Andre Johnson"

Seriously that'll forearm push will never be called.

It should have been a no call. The end result was Johnson still made the catch.

Can't believe this one play is getting so much attention. 21 in the 4th is the story.

neutral field?

You didn't watch the Jets-Donkeys game did you? It got called 3 times.

That forearm push is called a lot. There have been a lot of offensive PI calls this year.

I just don't understand minimizing a call like that. It had enormous ramifications at the end of the game.

What did bug me about the defense at the end is that the offense had long, sustained drives and they had plenty of time to rest. Maybe last week's game at Indy really physically drained them.

I don't think AJ got all of his 138 yards on that play. Schaub tossed for 155 friggin' yards in the 4th quarter and they got 8 first downs. I guess the refs did all that too.

weren't we looking at this guy in the offseason...

2nd and 20 on your own 35 is far different than first and 10 on the KC 24.

2 years ago.

The guy is a stud.

that is pretty much the way I see it.

ah, right....

yeah it never got called on tony g.

I don't know if it is in Atlanta, but the NFL is calling far more offensive PI penalties this year than in the past.

Its a process

not gonna blame the refs for the loss, but that call contributed.

google ron winters calls flags..the guy has a history of throwing game changing yellow hankies..

That was a bogus call and should have gone against Andre Johnson:cuss:


It happened in the Dallas game but it was called offensive pass interference. The WR did the same damn thing. We did get screwed on that play, however this is football and it is part of the game and I'm sure we get away with calls like that or none calls too. Still pisses me off cuz if the idiot ref called it offensive pass interference we were bound to win the game.

Maybe we will get an apology from the league:rolleyes:

As I've said all along, I hang this loss on that idiot Weis and the resurgent Detards. However, it's nice to see at least a couple of the talkingsportsheads acknowledge that we got boned on that play.

flowers played a hell of a game yesterday.

Im going to bet that this call lights an even bigger fire under Flowers ass and he will be on an absolute ****ing terror.

Revis Island? He's gonna be plantin' Flowers all over that bitch.

That call took me back to another game against the Texans at Arrowhead when you and I had a discussion about shit being fixed and point shaving.

Clearly an ax to grind with Weis.

There was a point in the broadcast where one of the announcers when he thought he was off air uttered the following: "Ron Winters crew always brings an extra bucket of flags"...

hell they damn near blew the coin toss.

You dipshit, if they hadn't gotten 21 we win. That BAD CALL contributed directly to that 21!

Hmm.... it was called in the Dallas game...

Wow, you are an idiotic ****tard.

...

Because if they played in Kansas City they could be subject to blackout.

I hope the defense doesn't harp on this call and takes responsibility for not protecting the 10-point lead they were given. That will make us a better football team. Griping about the refs...won't.

Maybe this will be a learning experience for us?
That you can't just go to sleep when you have a lead like this.
Even when you've done a good job against a high-powered offense for one half of the game.

heh, someone needs to post screen shots of Flowers goin off on that ref. At first he did a good job of ignoring Flowers, but then it looked like he was going to throw him out later on.

I'm not sure but I like the idea.:D

Flowers should have concentrated on trying to keep playing the ball and the man, instead of throwing his hands up and looking for a ref.

:shake:

ROFL

kind of hard when he get push in the back and flies 3 yards

I thought it was a horrible call, but good teams find ways to overcome those.

Although I will say that, on the other hand, I'm also a big believer in momentum, and maybe the correct call there turns things.

But good teams find a way to win anyway.

I think his hands flew up because he was trying to keep his balance, and he couldn't play the man any tighter because the man had just created separation with a shove to the back. Now, if Johnson had stayed inbounds and Flowers spent more time looking for a flag instead of tackling him, I think that criticism would be justified.

It probably could have been a no call. HOWEVER, once the flag was out of the refs pocket, and the ref came up with defensive pass interference vs offensive pass interference... :shake:

I'd agree with that if it's in the middle of a game, but not with less than two minutes left in a tight game. That's a 40 yard swing.

Incase you guys need a replay

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He should've done a Flair flop.

I really hope Haley doesn't allow this team to make any excuses for this loss.
Don't even talk about the play. Talk about surrendering a 10-point lead with 7 minutes to play. Own this loss. Cause it hurts like hell for me... I know it's GOTTA be a bitch for those players. Use that as motivation never to let this happen again and to improve as a team.

I still think he threw his arms up to complain.

really?

OK, to be fair, I'll split the difference.

He threw up his arms to complain. But he couldn't play the man closer because Johnson had achieved illegal separation.

Choke on a dick, reerun. Shitty defense and shitty playcalling killed us in the end. Now why don't you return to your fingerpainting?

Michael Irvin made it to the Hall of Fame doing the same thing. Good, big, strong receivers will do a 1 arm push off and it isn't called the majority of time.

I heard this. It was early in the game and Gus said it.

You're absolutely right about Irvin. But the irony of the rest of your post is that OPI WAS called multiple times in later games Sunday. :grr:

At this point, you bet. Apparently he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He pulled the same shit toward the end of the Indy game. That wasn't quite as egregious, but it should have been enough to register.

offensive pass inference is called more now, than when Irvin played

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but it wasn't a big push. That type of hand, and single arm jostling happens on almost every play.

if you need to push off, you aren't a good WR.

Everyone is making this out to be the worst playcall in modern history.

It was bad.

What was worse was Cassel's read on it. He had Bowe, who he targeted all game breaking open.

I have zero problems with the game Weis called.

We put up more than 400 yrds of O. I dont quite understand your hate here. If its solely for the 3rd and 2 call, then fine. But, the bulk of your anger for that play should be at Cassel for making a terrible throw, or missing Bowe coming across.

Flowers got called for an arm bar. Watch the replay again. Before Johnson ever pushes off Flowers is impeding his progress with his right arm as he turns back to look for the ball.

Again, the game's on the line - whose number are you going to call? The playmaker, or the playbreaker? As Clint Eastwood might say, a man's got to know his limitations.

It was beyond bad. It was mindless and it cost us the game. And when I say that, I mean the wretched defense would have been overcome and the terrible blown call would have never happened had we just rushed for those two yards. No one will ever convince me otherwise.

but he was turning around looking to the ball, usually an arm bar like that isn't called in that situation.

If you play a brilliant game of chess only to **** up your endgame and get mated, does that make you a genious?

I wouldn't be so pissed if he hadn't DONE THE SAME DAMN THING THE WEEK BEFORE.

It's still an arm bar regardless of whether he's looking for the ball or not. People can bitch about it but it's technically a good call. It shouldn't matter because Johnson caught the damn ball anyway.

Flowers got mugged.

end of story.

Yep.Score more points or allow fewer and it don't fuggn matter anyway.

Wasnt the Vegas spread 4pts?

Hmmmm.....

Yes it was a bad call, it changed the game. Put them in FG position with plenty of time to take shots at the endzone. That play doesnt happen, Houston more than likely, plays to send the game into OT. But its over, time to see how the Chiefs respond.

Yeah I heard that too

I agree. And then the flag came out. Flowers responded to the flag by clapping, knowing the ref had seen what we all saw, and that was a push off by Johnson.

Once the flag was out of the pocket, that is offensive pass interference. To call it on Flowers was a poor call at the very best.

But what are you going to do? :shrug:

We are still in control of the West. After 5 games, I am thrilled with that fact!

ROFL.

Did you watch the Jets/Donkeys game? They had 2 OPI calls in 3 plays. You don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah - took a TD away from #19 too.

IMO, it shouldn't have been a flag at all. Plus, Andre is the Texans go-to-guy. There should have been safety help.

Safety help? Why? The coverage was snug right up until he was pushed away. Flowers doesn't need too much help in man.

what was the safety package on that play?

Good post, Mic.

Where have you been? Haven't seen you around much.

I'm not going to say there shouldn't have been a flag, 'cause I think Flowers had him defended to the point it would have been an incompletion without the pushoff. But I have seen that be a no call before.

I also saw Gonzo get called for that same thing... maybe even less, damn near every single game when he was a Chief.

I suppose it is a difficut call at game speed, but consistancy would be nice.

How-so? Andre Johnson pushed him. That's OPI anyway you slice it. It was obvious. They didn't have a problem calling it TWICE in the Jets/Donkeys game.

the line judge had it right infront of him and ****ing blew it.

Those receivers weren't named Andre Johnson, and yes I think that matters.

To make matters worse, I think Andre Johnson will get the last laugh when the NFL announces the fines from week 6 action later this week b/c I expect Flowers to be fined for arguing too long.