WTF? Matt Cassel is the #1 rated QB in the NFL the last 5 games? True?
 

Saw a post on another website that this was a fact. Is it? Inquiring minds want to know.

Edit: Found the source. A Chiefs tweet.

QB Matt Cassel has a 108.9 passer rating over his last four games - the best mark of any QB in the league over that span (min. 100 atts).

Twitter / ChiefsPR

I think its actually the last 4 games but yeah

He has gotten the job done against some atrocious defenses.


That is exactly what he needs to do. I have been very happy with his performance, even in the game against the Texans.

He's #9 in QB Rating.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

He still number one at sucks ass.

Good job so far by Cassel. The last couple weeks he's done everything asked of him.

I don't want to hear that

I blame Haley, Weis, and those ****ing laces.

Actually if he plays well the Chiefs win so I guess I shouldn't complain.

If it's printed somewhere it's bullshit !

Cassel sucks. I can show you 20 screen passes that he threw 5 yards away from the receiver. The touchdown he threw to Bowe last Sunday was WAY underthrown and Bowe had to come back for the reception when he should have been led. The touchdown he threw to Moeaki took a Supermanesck feat to make the catch.

He still can't read through his progressions and has no pocket awareness.

He might Trent Dilfer us all the way to the SB but he'll go down as the first SB winner that truly sucks !

as long as he manages the game and doesn't turn the ball over....if we can run the ball they we will be alright.

BUT

Once teams load up the box, stop the run and we have to rely on Matt Cassel, then we may have something serious to worry about.

Peyton has been sacked 6 times and Cassel's been sacked 5.

After the abortion at RG last year I would like to send my thanks out to Bill Pollian for letting go of Lilja..............I guess I also need to say thanks to Pioli for finally fixing that problem.

Hopefully, "fixing the quarterback" works. I see Weis trying to get him to get comfortable doing what he can do at this point and as he gets more and more comfortable with that set of responsibilities, more and more is put on his plate and that eventually he is able to make plays for us.

Hey, its a possibility.

And thanks to Mcidiot for letting go of Weigman..........I haven't missed Niswonger AT ALL!

He's no GrSuck .. but close .......

I just googled it and this thread is the #1 hit.

I noticed he was a healthy inactive last week. That was kind of surprising

It's a tweet from the Chiefs.

QB Matt Cassel has a 108.9 passer rating over his last four games - the best mark of any QB in the league over that span (min. 100 atts).

Twitter / ChiefsPR

too legit
too legit to quit.

This tweet is as sweet as a perfect swing pass on 1st down or an inside hand-off on 3rd and 9.

He outranks Drew Brees?? WTF Cassel? You're supposed to suck! Stop being so good!!

I don't want to take much away from him - he's played reasonably well the last couple weeks. However, you have to consider the huge impact that interceptions have on QB rating. They've got him trained to only throw pretty safe throws, so he's not being intercepted. And that's what the coaches want.

I would LIKE to see us throw down field more often, but hey, if they can make the short stuff work with our running game, I can't complain.

Weiss must be "fixing" him?

6 games in, you think teams haven't stacked the box on us?

I would to but we have to keep this in perspective..

Safe throws=no mistakes=wins

contrast that with say Phillip Rivers who lights it up, has the #1 defense and is 2-5 because their team committs mistakes.

As long as he's not Gay Cutler...

But he's the worst QB in the NFL. /ChiefsPlanet

Pioli proving all CPers wrong since 2009

I still don't think he's the long term solution, but I give credit when credit is due unlike all of the dumbasses who root for him to suck just so they can say they are right. He's still overpaid but based purely on a production standpoint we could certainly be alot worse off.

I've said this before, but stats are usless without the context provided by actually watching the game, and QB rating is the most useless of all.

Cassel has played mistake free football, and done a respectable job.

I guess that's all we can ask for.

:hmmm:

very interesting take.....

He was sacked 24 times in his first 6 games last year compared to 5 this year. His success this year will be directly related to the health of our offensive line.

So what you're saying is if a qb isn't under pressure he'll do better.


Whew.

That's a relief, lol.

Hell, he made guys like Brady Quinn and Jimmy Clausen look like decent QBs. If he can do that with those guys, who's to say he can't do it with Cassel.

No I 'm saying last year our line from center to right tackle sucked worse than Cassel.

The O-Line is improved and providing better protection, but the primary reason he isn't taking sacks is because Weis has him getting teh ball out much quicker than he did last year.

He has been subject to taking a lot of sacks in the past, not only in KC, but in New England as well, because he held the ball for far too long.

Yes, that is absolutely correct. He has Drew Bledsoe syndrome. Sometime you just have to throw it away and go onto the next play.

I'm less sold on Cassel then when we signed him.

He doesn't improvise like a true elite QB. JMO.

And I think that's what makes a true outstanding QB stand out.

Oh I agree 100% but I think we can all agree the right side of our line this year isn't the liability that it was last year.

Lilja for Goff?? Weigman for Niswonger??? No comparison.

Isnt the line for starts by a quarterback before you should truly judge him 36?

Cassel just started his 36th game FWIW.

What is Cassel's win loss record as an NFL starter now?

Isn't it like 19 - 11 because Croyle started game 1 last year.

10-5 in NE 08
4-11 in KC 09
4-2 in KC 10

18-18 If my math is working

Thanks. That's more like it. I'm trying to do too many things over here.

LMAO off at this thread.

At least we have some spirited conversation going on rather than 100% Cassel sucks.

That's improvement.

That WR leaped out of the sky to bail him out last week. I swear he jumped so high he could have dunked between his legs.

Brett Favre made a HOF career out of winging passes up. That's right! Cassel is Brett Favre!

Maybe the 2010 version. LMAO

I don't think Cassel's accuracy will ever improve enough that he'll ever be considered an elite QB. There's no doubt we overpaid him but if that's what it took to get this franchise back on its feet then so be it.

The Copper catch was amazing.



I have always said that Cassel is a living highlight. The WR's get a lot of chances to make Top 10 ESPN catches that should have been routine.



Maybe that's why Bowe can't catch a well thrown ball. He isn't used to catching the ball on the numbers.

Another Interesting Stat:

His 153 pass attempts is the lowest total for quarterbacks that haven't split time or missed significant playing time. As a team, only Pittsburgh has a lower total.

I think a large part of that is the dominance of our ground attack. However, I also think its telling that are not trusting him with the ball more often.

I don't know, they've let him throw on several fourth down attempts, I think they trust him with the ball, it's just that when you're so effective running the ball, you're going to have low pass attempt numbers.

I agree that the dominant run game has a lot to do with it. But when you look at the other dominant run teams, we're still pretty skewed.

Rankings Run/Pass-- RPG/PPG

1/30 Chiefs 35.2r/25.5p
2/24 Raiders 33.7r/30.4p
3/10 Falcons 32.7r/36p
4/27 Jets 32.7r/29.8p
5/17 Ravens 32.2r/33.9p

Ratios

Chiefs 1.38
Raiders 1.10
Falcons 0.91
Jets 1.10
Ravens 0.94

he's playing much better now than game 1. if he keeps improving at the current pace, he'll be solid in time for the playoffs :D :spock:

And how much have we run in the last 4 games? I think cassels is great QB so long as the ball is not in his hands...

number 7 in your programs,number 1 in your hearts matt cassel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is not allowed. You must hate Cassel or I will have to ask the mods to put in a filter that changes like to hate whenever Cassel is mentioned.

Yeah, but...

Another example of stats not telling the whole story.

More deserving of mention is that he seems to get a little better every week. Granted it has been against bad defenses, but you have to play well vs the bad ones before you can play well vs the good ones.

Defense, running games, and game manager at qb who doesn't make mistakes. The 2000 Ravens. The 2001 Patriots. The 2002 Bucs all used the formula. But I am a committed follower of Cassaholics Anonymous so Cassel sucks.

...interesting, considering the HC has made it clear we want to be team that can run the ball, despite the fan base's desire for Cassel to be an elite, game changing QB...

You can feel uneasy about Cassel, that's fine. He is a little skitish in the pocket and not the most accurate passer. But what this statisitic is, really, is an efficiency rating. He's not turning the ball over, he IS completing passes and throwing TDs. On top of that he isn't taking a lot of sacks.

The three best players on KC's offense are Charles, Jones and McCluster. Run the ball. If they want Cassel to improve as a thrower, they'll have to throw the ball more. It's that simple. CP users want him to be a accurate thrower and franchise QB, but if you don't get but 18 attempts a game, you aren't getting a lot of reps to improve. I think they could put him in better situations (play action, roll outs) that take advantage of his athletic ability, but hey, KC is 4-2, who am I to gripe?

BTW, the guy KC is facing this weekend, Fitzpatrick, is second in the league in passer rating. Over the last four games he's done it against defenses like NE, NYJ and Baltimore, two of those on the road.

I see another suspect day for KC's pass defense this Sunday. Luckily, they can't run the ball much and their defense is the worst in the league. As long as KC doesn't turn it over, they should pull it out, but Buffalo can score points. Gailey has a more talented Thigpen playing QB with two good WRs to throw to.

He had a shitty game against the Jets.

New England's defense sucks.

We're crushing this team to a bloody pulp.

KFDMC

Cassel at his Dilferish best, which is the best we can hope for.

Our defense is nowhere near the quality of those teams', but our run game is significantly better so it'll be interesting to see how this team turns out a few years down the line.

Agreed, and he did have a relapse early in the Jax game.

:D

Excellent post, sir.

And I reluctantly agree. I had made up my mind to completely give up on Cassel. But, horrid D's or not, he's actually done just about everything he's needed to do the last few weeks. He hasn't been completely mistake free, but he's been disaster free. And he's looked like he knows what he's doing, for the most part.

I hope he builds on it. Like we've all said, I'd love nothing more than the dude to become a serious stud.

Well when you lead the NFL in rushing attempts, you will most likely have fewer pass attempts as well.

I like this thought the best.

Pretty much my thoughts as well.

While that was a "duh" statement, it is accurate. The difference in sacks from last year to this year is amazing. I often wondered last year if that poor line play might ruin any chance the guy had at becoming a serviceable NFL QB. And the preseason and first couple weeks of this season looked like that was the case. But he has played well recently. I will cut him some slack....for now.

Yeah, pretty much.

vs NYJ at Buffalo:

12-27, 128yards 44.4%, 2 TDs 0 INTs, sacked 3 times.

New England's defense is ranked #29 in the NFL. Their pass defense is #30.

Leads the league in QB% and you'll cut him some slack LMAO for what? a week?:)

I don't give a rat's ass if we run the ball 60 times a game, I want to have confidence that the QB can make plays when it comes to him needing to make plays, and we haven't seen any evidence to suggest that he can do that.

I'm talking about late game situations when he needs to make a pass to win, or seal a win.


JFC, how many times does it have to be pointed out that the O-Line, as bad as it was, wasn't solely responsible for the number of sacks he took last year.

His sack numbers for 15 1/2 game for New England were higher than the sack numbers that Brady took the season before, and the season after, combined.

Cassel was every bit as responsible for the 45 sacks he suffered last year as the O-Line.

Well maybe we will find out if he has what it takes in the remaining 10 games... Cause right now, we havent had that situation yet...

And lets not drag Houston into the discussion.... The Defense totally shit the bed and Haley/Weis decided to be super cute instead of winning the football game.

So as much as I would hate to be in that situation, I would rather know if he can or cant before postseason begins.

Houston does get dragged into this, because even with the defense shitting the bed, Cassel had a chance to seal that win on a third and two pass play (which you seem to think was "cute", but the Chiefs had been stuffed on running plays in short yardage situations consistently all day), and he shit the bed.

The only game that I can remember Cassel making a play in a close game against a good team to put us in position to win was against Dallas last year when he threw that TD pass to Bowe to send the game to overtime.

Oh yeah, he shit the bed in overtime. Defense got him the ball on the 50 and Succop was absolute money from even beyond 50 last year meaning all he had to do was get us 15 yards or so.

:banghead:

Yes it was way to "cute" for that time in the game... along with the TE breaking the route off running backwards down the field... It was fail from the word go....

And we werent getting stuffed all day on the short runs, We ran a few 4 and shorts during the game and converted them, IIRC.... I Have the game on the Tivo, I could go back and count up how many we did convert if need to...

But to run something that required a pass across the field, with your TE running backwards, was just way to cute...

We have before that game and during that game completed some key 3rd downs that didnt involve some trickery or backwards running TEs...

Anyway, we still have 10 games to see what he has, at some point we will need him to deliver, Can he? Will he? I dont know, nobody but the Chiefs coaching staff and Cassel know...

We will just speculate and try to form opinions as fact...

If the coach would of put in Croyle 4th qtr, We would of won, no doubt, no doubt in my mind... Croyle can throw a pig skin a qtr mile... /Uncle Rico.