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Direckshun 11-03-2010 01:55 PM
Nnamdi, Louis Murphy out... Zach Miller on crutches...
 
How do we not win this game?

Seriously. If they are going to beat us, it's going to have to be through the air.

Who else is catching passes in Oakland?

Shogun 11-03-2010 01:58 PM
Theyre going to give their DE's baseball mitts and threaten to beat the shit out of them if they can't make the catch.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-03-2010 01:58 PM
It wouldn't matter if they all play, they still can't stop the Charles / Jones express.

Rausch 11-03-2010 02:00 PM
I don't think throwing the ball is going to help the Raiders win...

DMAC 11-03-2010 02:02 PM
The game plan is very simple. It does not change with any of those players out.

RustShack 11-03-2010 02:03 PM
bahahaha

Championship 11-03-2010 02:04 PM
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.

Championship 11-03-2010 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7142672)
bahahaha
That must be the reply you get when you say you are an Iowa State fan, right?

alpha_omega 11-03-2010 02:06 PM
Oh brother!

Fritz88 11-03-2010 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7142652)

Who else is catching passes in Oakland?
DHB.


















Kidding.
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Rain Man 11-03-2010 02:42 PM
Did that Raider fan just threaten us with Darrius Heyward-Bey?

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-03-2010 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.


Foster had 18 carries for 71 yards , I know that's a field day for you but for our team that would be horrible.


Dumbass !

Bambi 11-03-2010 02:45 PM
I've got Miller and Moeaki on my fantasy team. Who do I start? Is Miller really hurt?

Championship 11-03-2010 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7142699)
Did that Raider fan just threaten us with Darrius Heyward-Bey?
Bey just had a one hundred yard game last week.

He's faster than anybody in your secondary. If Flowers isn't careful, he will get burned like he did last week by Roscoe Parrish.

Rausch 11-03-2010 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7142702)
I've got Miller and Moeaki on my fantasy team. Who do I start? Is Miller really hurt?
Same here.

I started miller last week and he got me 0.

Moeaki is healthy. Even if he gets you 2 pts, hey, 2 pts is better than nothing...

Rausch 11-03-2010 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142707)
Bey just had a one hundred yard game last week.

He's faster than anybody in your secondary. If Flowers isn't careful, he will get burned like he did last week by Roscoe Parrish.
We'll take our chances with your high powered passing game...

talastan 11-03-2010 02:47 PM
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Championship 11-03-2010 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7142701)
Foster had 18 carries for 71 yards , I know that's a field day for you but for our team that would be horrible.


Dumbass !
And two touchdowns...and six catches....I'm sorry but that's a field day.

Hays 11-03-2010 02:48 PM
DHB still has a lot to prove, Ford hasn't done much, and Miller being 50% will hurt the raiders.

They will have to run the ball to win.

But more importantly can the Raiders D stop the Chiefs running game?

Mr. Arrowhead 11-03-2010 02:48 PM
Raiders have alot better offensive running game /prison bitch raider fan

Championship 11-03-2010 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7142702)
I've got Miller and Moeaki on my fantasy team. Who do I start? Is Miller really hurt?
Look at the Raiders secondary and then look at the Chiefs secondary....

And then slap yourself for not realizing sooner that you should never bench Zach Miller in fantasy, especially when he's going up against a team with a creampuff secondary such as KC.

DrRyan 11-03-2010 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.
Deion, Rod Woodson and Darrell Green have chosen not to dignify this ridiculous post with a response. Nnamdi the GOAT? Getting a little ahead of yourself there no?

Mr. Arrowhead 11-03-2010 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142729)
Look at the Raiders secondary and then look at the Chiefs secondary....

And then slap yourself for not realizing sooner that you should never bench Zach Miller in fantasy, especially when he's going up against a team with a creampuff secondary such as KC.
ROFL

Mr. Arrowhead 11-03-2010 02:51 PM
Flowers>Nnamdi

Rain Man 11-03-2010 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142707)
Bey just had a one hundred yard game last week.

He's faster than anybody in your secondary. If Flowers isn't careful, he will get burned like he did last week by Roscoe Parrish.

Gosh, you're right. He had 105 yards last week, which puts him at 126 yards over the last five weeks. Scary, scary stuff.

ChiTown 11-03-2010 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 7142735)
Flowers>Nnamdi
and it's not even close

ThaVirus 11-03-2010 02:52 PM
Wow, these Raider fans are getting out of control. I wish they would all just die...

Fritz88 11-03-2010 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.
I smell knowmo.
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HotRoute 11-03-2010 02:52 PM
The Charles Jones Express is going to run right down the throats of the faiders defense, even with all those players they would still have a field day

Rain Man 11-03-2010 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7142746)
I smell knowmo.
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Sorry, that was me. I had chili for lunch.

beer bacon 11-03-2010 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hays (Post 7142721)
DHB still has a lot to prove, Ford hasn't done much, and Miller being 50% will hurt the raiders.

They will have to run the ball to win.

But more importantly can the Raiders D stop the Chiefs running game?
Yeah, here are the two teams running stats:

Chiefs:
Rushing offense - 5.2 ypc, 190 ypg and #1 in the NFL
Rushing defense - 3.8 ypc, 96 ypg, and #7 in the NFL

Oakland
Rushing offense - 4.9 ypc, 168 ypg, and #2 in the NFL
Rushing defense - 4.7 ypc, 127 ypg, and #26 in the NFL

The Chiefs are doing better in both categories and much better in run defense. Oakland won't be able to win without going to the air.

Fritz88 11-03-2010 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 7142743)
Wow, these Raider fans are getting out of control. I wish they would all just die...
Can you imagine Planet Earth without Apes?
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Mr. Arrowhead 11-03-2010 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7142746)
I smell knowmo.
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speaking of knowmo, havent heard from him much lately lol

CupidStunt 11-03-2010 02:55 PM
They lost to the Cardinals and 49ers, unable to top double digits against the latter.

KC will take a shit on that team and start packing its bags in the 3rd quarter.

Tylerthigpen!1! 11-03-2010 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.
Field day? He was 18 for 71 yards. Take away his 21 yard run and that is pretty abysmal.

Fritz88 11-03-2010 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7142751)
Sorry, that was me. I had chili for lunch.
Sweet Jesus.
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RustShack 11-03-2010 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142729)
Look at the Raiders secondary and then look at the Chiefs secondary....

And then slap yourself for not realizing sooner that you should never bench Zach Miller in fantasy, especially when he's going up against a team with a creampuff secondary such as KC.
Well considering Aso isn't starting, and Flowers is the shut down corner of the year.. I'd probably go with Moeaki who isn't hurt. Oh, and Eric Berry.

Is there a TE the Chiefs haven't shut down yet this year?

Fritz88 11-03-2010 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 7142735)
Flowers>Nnamdi
No doubt. Question is, can Shithole challenge anything?
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Championship 11-03-2010 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 7142731)
Deion, Rod Woodson and Darrell Green have chosen not to dignify this ridiculous post with a response. Nnamdi the GOAT? Getting a little ahead of yourself there no?
Did any of those guys ever have a season where they allowed less than ten passes to be completed on them for an entire season like Nnamdi did in 2008? I didn't think so.

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 7142735)
Flowers>Nnamdi
Troll post.

Anyone who actually does believe this has absolutely zero credibility.

ToxSocks 11-03-2010 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142782)
Did any of those guys ever have a season where they allowed less than ten passes to be completed on them for an entire season like Nnamdi did in 2008? I didn't think so.
At first I thought you could be somewhat knowledgeable, but now it's been confirmed that you are just ****ing reeruned.

Just another blind, ignorant homer.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2010 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.
You see no reason you can't run the ball down our throats? Based on what?

The Chiefs have faced better RBs than McFadden this year, and shut down each one of them.

Foster, Gore and MJD are all better tailbacks.

Do you watch football? You have zero grasp of anything factual. Nothing. It's like you are from ****ing Wonderland. I used to think KnowMo was the biggest bitchtitted troll on this site, but you have eclipsed him. Totally eclipsed him in 1 day.

vailpass 11-03-2010 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 7142735)
Flowers>Nnamdi
Dude.

bowener 11-03-2010 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142782)
Did any of those guys ever have a season where they allowed less than ten passes to be completed on them for an entire season like Nnamdi did in 2008? I didn't think so.
That is a great stat, but to be fair that is because teams had a huge lead and would just run the ball endlessly on you. JaBustus was no threat to mount a come back, for the most part.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2010 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JTagg7754 (Post 7142784)
Troll post.

Anyone who actually does believe this has absolutely zero credibility.
What has 21 done in the last 2 seasons? He's not even close to the player he was prior to getting paid.

Not even close.

Flowers has been called a defensive player of the year candidate. I haven't heard 21's name mentioned at all when talking about top corners.

RustShack 11-03-2010 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JTagg7754 (Post 7142784)
Troll post.

Anyone who actually does believe this has absolutely zero credibility.
Soo... Raiders fans are the only credible source your saying?

You would have been right last year, and the year before, and so on. But Flowers is the best corner in the NFL this year.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2010 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowener (Post 7142793)
That is a great stat, but to be fair that is because teams had a huge lead and would just run the ball endlessly on you. JaBustus was no threat to mount a come back, for the most part.
And why throw at him when you have Chris Johnson on the other side?

Honestly, you're better off putting a fan in an NFL uniform and they could cover better than Chris Johnson.

vailpass 11-03-2010 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7142797)
Soo... Raiders fans are the only credible source your saying?

You would have been right last year, and the year before, and so on. But Flowers is the best corner in the NFL this year.
ROFL

ToxSocks 11-03-2010 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7142791)
You see no reason you can't run the ball down our throats? Based on what?

The Chiefs have faced better RBs than McFadden this year, and shut down each one of them.

Foster, Gore and MJD are all better tailbacks.

Do you watch football? You have zero grasp of anything factual. Nothing. It's like you are from ****ing Wonderland. I used to think KnowMo was the biggest bitchtitted troll on this site, but you have eclipsed him. Totally eclipsed him in 1 day.
After his post about Nnamdi being better than Dieon or Rod Woodson, I think it's time this guy just gets treated like Knomo.

He's just another idiot with 0 football IQ.

Can't even take his posts as insults anymore. They're just to stupid.

Championship 11-03-2010 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7142795)
What has 21 done in the last 2 seasons? He's not even close to the player he was prior to getting paid.

Not even close.

Flowers has been called a defensive player of the year candidate. I haven't heard 21's name mentioned at all when talking about top corners.
Nnamdi's not close to where he was before he got paid...LOL

Dude just quit posting. You don't have a clue.

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7142795)
What has 21 done in the last 2 seasons? He's not even close to the player he was prior to getting paid.

Not even close.

Flowers has been called a defensive player of the year candidate. I haven't heard 21's name mentioned at all when talking about top corners.
Is it Nnamdi's fault he's being overpaid? No. Who the **** could live up to that contract? What has he done though? Oh I dunno. Check out how many times he's targetted and how many passes he gives up this season. He MIGHT have given up 100 yards this season (penalties included).

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-03-2010 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 7142758)
speaking of knowmo, havent heard from him much lately lol
I hope it's a prelude to things much bigger.

TheGuardian 11-03-2010 03:16 PM
Flowers is better than Nnamdi now. Raider fans just can't get their head out of his ass because he's been the only thing they have had for the last few years to talk about. But Flowers is better now.

HotRoute 11-03-2010 03:16 PM
Is it Sunday yet???? Man I'm getting pumped for this game already

beer bacon 11-03-2010 03:16 PM
Oakland's total pass defense is inflated by their weak run defense. When you have one of the worst run defenses in the league, teams are going to run more and pass last. Oakland is good in two pass defense categories.

Oakland is 4th in passing ypg (182.6) and 2nd in completion percentage (52.8). Sounds great right?

They are also have the 5th fewest attempts per game (29), 19th in passing yards per attempt (7.0), 26th in passing TDs given up (14), and 30th in INTs (4).

The Chiefs on the other hand are 23rd in passing ypg (236.3), but we are also 8th in completion percentage (56.8), 27th in passing attempts per game (38.7), 6th in passing yards per attempt (6.5), 9th in passing TDs given up (9), and 23rd in INTs (6).

Bane 11-03-2010 03:16 PM
"Nnamdi, Louis Murphy out... Zach Miller on crutches"

Oh well ****'em.They're all overrated pieces of shit anyway.

Renegade 11-03-2010 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7142751)
Sorry, that was me. I had chili for lunch.
So you are telling me that knowmo = turd smell, who would've thought that

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7142797)
Soo... Raiders fans are the only credible source your saying?

You would have been right last year, and the year before, and so on. But Flowers is the best corner in the NFL this year.
Yea, coming from a guy who's trying to prove one player is better than the other by posting a picture. Good try. I just think this debate might be a little beyond you. Take some classes then get back to me.

Anyone who says Flowers is better is completely full of shit. Flowers is good but he's not that good.... no one is.

And to those that think I'm a homer, go lurk the raiderfans dot net board and tell me that again.

Championship 11-03-2010 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7142791)
You see no reason you can't run the ball down our throats? Based on what?

The Chiefs have faced better RBs than McFadden this year, and shut down each one of them.
You have yet to face a runningback as big and as fast as McFadden, who can break tackles, juke defenders, and has the speed to take it to the house from anywhere on the field. And also, McFadden also happens to be a pretty damn good receivers out of the backfield.

So no, you have not faced a RB that is on DMC's level this year.

Quote:
Foster, Gore and MJD are all better tailbacks.
Not this year.

Quote:
Do you watch football? You have zero grasp of anything factual. Nothing. It's like you are from ****ing Wonderland. I used to think KnowMo was the biggest bitchtitted troll on this site, but you have eclipsed him. Totally eclipsed him in 1 day.
Don't get frustrated because I'm debunking your arguments.

Hays 11-03-2010 03:18 PM
Flowers>Nnamdi????
uh lets wait and see.

As it is right now Qb's won't throw his way. They do throw Flowers way.

HotRoute 11-03-2010 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142812)
Nnamdi's not close to where he was before he got paid...LOL

Dude just quit posting. You don't have a clue.
:popcorn:

TheGuardian 11-03-2010 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JTagg7754 (Post 7142826)
Yea, coming from a guy who's trying to prove one player is better than the other by posting a picture. Good try. I just think this debate might be a little beyond you. Take some classes then get back to me.

Anyone who says Flowers is better is completely full of shit. Flowers is good but he's not that good.... no one is.

And to those that think I'm a homer, go lurk the raiderfans dot net board and tell me that again.
Yes you're a ****ing homer. Every site that does break down stats has Flowers listed as the best corner in the NFL this year by a fairly wide margin. Nnamdi got lit the **** up by Malcolm Floyd for the love of God. He's been overrated for a while.

beer bacon 11-03-2010 03:19 PM
Flowers statistically has been the best corner in the NFL this season.

Red Beans 11-03-2010 03:20 PM
Damn, the Faiders get to .500 by winning 2 in a row and the trolls come out in full force. While I'm going to support Flowers over Nnamdi in coverage, I know it's a small bit of homerism. But tell me who makes more tackles and who has more missed tackles? I don't even have the stat line, but there's no doubt that Flowers is lights out when compared to Assamaholea in the department...

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hays (Post 7142830)
Flowers>Nnamdi????
uh lets wait and see.

As it is right now Qb's won't throw his way. They do throw Flowers way.
They haven't thrown at Nnamdi in years. Oh but just one thing to show you, against AZ, he was on Fitz for 7 pass attempts for 1 completion for 18 yards and broke up 5 passes. Just a small sample.

Seriously,a lot of people here are calling Raiders fans homers but if you HONESTLY believe this, you're beyond a ****ing homer.

ChiTown 11-03-2010 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hays (Post 7142830)

As it is right now Qb's won't throw his way. They do throw Flowers way.
Wrong.

RustShack 11-03-2010 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hays (Post 7142830)
Flowers>Nnamdi????
uh lets wait and see.

As it is right now Qb's won't throw his way. They do throw Flowers way.
They do throw his way, and aren't completed. And when they are its for an average of about two yards.

RealSNR 11-03-2010 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.
I'm going to ignore most of your homer bullshit and focus on McFadden.

Arian Foster is better than McFadden. He plays on a potent offense with a great QB and the best receiver in the game right now. He's also faster, stronger, and shiftier than McFadden.

We held him to 71 yards and 3.9 yards per carry.

So yes, you WILL be forced to throw the ball on us because if you don't we will shut DOWN your overrated running game. Even if you do beat us, I'll bet we hold McFadden to under 100 yards.

Now get off our four-square court. You can go play with the other reeruned kids

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7142832)
Yes you're a ****ing homer. Every site that does break down stats has Flowers listed as the best corner in the NFL this year by a fairly wide margin. Nnamdi got lit the **** up by Malcolm Floyd for the love of God. He's been overrated for a while.
Oh you... yeah, I'm gonna believe you. Nnamdi gave up two catches in the SD game I believe. Don't have the stats in front of me. Even then, he was playing zone. Nnamdi isn't a zone Cb, strictly man and he owns anyone put in front of him.

RustShack 11-03-2010 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 7142834)
Flowers statistically has been the best corner in the NFL this season.
Raiders live in the past. They don't get simple concepts like this.

Mr. Flopnuts 11-03-2010 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142676)
Losing Nnamdi hurts, but let's be honest The Chiefs have the worst passing offense in the league. We can survive without the GOAT for one week.

And you say the Raiders are going to have to win by throwing the football? I see no reason why we can't run the ball down your throats. Darren McFadden is playing like the best running back in the NFL. He won't be stopped. The one running game you played that was even comparable to the Raiders was the Texans, and Foster had a Field day, so I see no reason why we can't do the same.

And the Raiders still have plenty of options in the passing game. DHB had a big game last week. Your secondary isn't fast enough to keep up with DHB. Brandon Flowers is to slow to keep him in check all day. And a 50% healthy Zach Miller is still better than 80% of the Tight Ends in the NFL. Yes, he's THAT good. I'm sure he'll have a big day against your underachieving safetys.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142729)
Look at the Raiders secondary and then look at the Chiefs secondary....

And then slap yourself for not realizing sooner that you should never bench Zach Miller in fantasy, especially when he's going up against a team with a creampuff secondary such as KC.
IF (and it's a big if) you are for real with this shit, you are hands down the DUMBEST mother****er that's ever graced this forum. And you will never, ever understand how powerful that statement is.

Red Beans 11-03-2010 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JTagg7754 (Post 7142846)
Oh you... yeah, I'm gonna believe you. Nnamdi gave up two catches in the SD game I believe. Don't have the stats in front of me. Even then, he was playing zone. Nnamdi isn't a zone Cb, strictly man and he owns anyone put in front of him.

Man, this guy is a serious ball washer. Typical moronic Raiders fan.

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:24 PM
Let's just ASSUME Flowers is good enough to cover the oppositions number 1 the entire game.

Andre Johnson had 8 catches for 138 yards against you guys. Yeah. STELLAR GAME!
And don't try to tell me the guy is the best when he can't even cover Roscoe ****ing Parrish and/or Lee Evans.

Give. Me. A. ****ing. Break.

Homer central here.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-03-2010 03:24 PM
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...le-has-landed/

Defensive player of the year? hmm...

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 7142851)
Man, this guy is a serious ball washer. Typical moronic Raiders fan.
I'm hardly moronic or a homer. Seriously. Go to raiderfans dot net and look at my posts. Same name. Tell me I'm a homer after that.

Championship 11-03-2010 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7142819)
Flowers is better than Nnamdi now. Raider fans just can't get their head out of his ass because he's been the only thing they have had for the last few years to talk about. But Flowers is better now.
Hmmm

I think I'll take the opinion of Peyton Manning when he called Nnamdi the best DB in the league by far.

Flowers is good, don't get me wrong, but he's reached his ceiling. He's as good as he's ever going to be right now. Which is good, but not elite. He's not fast, not very physical, and he just doesn't have anything about his game that is elite. Nnamdi is the prototypical corner. He's fast, long arms, smart, intelligent, physical and has perfect technique. He is everything you look for in a DB.

But hey, you can use that messed up website ProFootballFocus. Let them continue to brainwash you into thinking that Flowers is as good as Nnamdi. I'll just watch the games and laugh when Flowers gets burned by DHB this sunday for a score. Guarantee he will.

ToxSocks 11-03-2010 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JTagg7754 (Post 7142839)
They haven't thrown at Nnamdi in years. Oh but just one thing to show you, against AZ, he was on Fitz for 7 pass attempts for 1 completion for 18 yards and broke up 5 passes. Just a small sample.

Seriously,a lot of people here are calling Raiders fans homers but if you HONESTLY believe this, you're beyond a ****ing homer.
And holding fitz to those numbers is suppose to be impressive when he has no QB? Get Real. ROFL

43 yards against the rams.

56 against SD

30 against Seattle.

The Raiders didn't stop him, his QB did.

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7142856)
Defensive player of the year? hmm...
Hard to accumulate stats when you're so feared no one even looks at you when attempting to pass.

I wouldn't expect many people here to understand this.

Bane 11-03-2010 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7142859)
Hmmm

I think I'll take the opinion of Peyton Manning when he called Nnamdi the best DB in the league by far.

Flowers is good, don't get me wrong, but he's reached his ceiling. He's as good as he's ever going to be right now. Which is good, but not elite. He's not fast, not very physical, and he just doesn't have anything about his game that is elite. Nnamdi is the prototypical corner. He's fast, long arms, smart, intelligent, physical and has perfect technique. He is everything you look for in a DB.

But hey, you can use that messed up website ProFootballFocus. Let them continue to brainwash you into thinking that Flowers is as good as Nnamdi. I'll just watch the games and laugh when Flowers gets burned by DHB this sunday for a score. Guarantee he will.
Indy Asem Wha is pretty good but he's clearly no Flowers.

JTagg7754 11-03-2010 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7142860)
And holding fitz to those numbers is suppose to be impressive when he has no QB? Get Real. ROFL

43 yards against the rams.

56 against SD

30 against Seattle.

The Raiders didn't stop him, his QB did.
You are the dumbest ****ing poster on this board. THAT is an accomplishment. Seriously. There are some ****ing reeruns here and some intelligent posters but YOU are ****ing stupid. Seriously. I suggest never showing your face.

Watch the Seattle game. This is how I know all your stats are bogus. Mike Williams, who Nnamdi was on all game til her got hurt, did NOT have one catch til the very next play after Nnamdi got hurt. Even the announcers said it.

Your posts are bogus, you're bogus, and pretty much a waste of the Earth's oxygen. Anyone who believes anything you say or even reads your words instantly becomes dumber. Congrats on your accomplishment.


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