Video of Doctor on NFL Network saying Cassel can Play SUnday
 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines




Matty is gonna play and have a great game.

3 small incisions? Huh?

I would be shocked if he plays this Sunday. But what do I know?

Big difference between telling a regular patient do what you want as long as you don't have a lot of pain when a regular patient sits behind a desk all day, and someone who is going to try to throw a football as hard as he can while getting thrown to the ground and landed on by a 310 lb man.

Playing a game with no practice the week before? Kinda doubt it.

Yea, there comes a point where you might be doing more harm than good.

Safer to go with the lesser guy whos 100% and been practicing at least.

There also comes a time when you have to stand up and show that you are a leader and a bad ass mofo.

Look how cautious the team was with bringing McCluster back. He isn't going to play. He'll most likely be the third QB.

I don't think the injuries are comparable....He cant re-injure his appendix and be out longer...It is a matter of playing through pain....

Look, I'm not gonna be shocked or even surprised if Matty doesn't play....but I think he will.

True enough, but if he gets crushed on a blitz and ****s up that wound, he could be out for the remainder of the season, and possibly the playoffs, if we get there. And since the Chargers lost last weekend, this isn't the do-or-die game that it was shapin up to be. Still a big game, but....

I've had this surgery. He is not going to play... period. Most likely wont play next game either. Sorry to burst your bubble.

The video I posted has a doctor saying that this is not true....but I don't know anything about it.

If he can go, and the doctors feel good about it, then he should go. The only remaining factor is what Brock said - he'll be going without having practiced the gameplan.

No worries...I am going to hope that he has better doctors and medical care than you and is tougher. Of course I am not going to be surprised if he doesn't play........But I remain hopeful. This is Matty's team.

This. See Brett Favre. He keeps trying to play hurt and he just hurts the team. Swallow your pride and get back on the bench.

DISCLAIMER: I mean this season. He kept trying to play on that ankle and it was clear he couldn't throw.

You're joking right? Do you even begin to understand how many games Farve won while banged up? Wow...

I was referring to this season and maybe last season.

Well go back to when farve was 28...

And when he was Matts age? Idiot.

No.

My point is that hopefully Haley has the balls to tell Matt to not play (if he can't get it done) even if Matt himself thinks he can play.

Childress just did whatever Favre wanted. Favre's competetiveness wouldn't allow him to stay out, even though he should have.

Now if the coaches determine that Matt can actually do it, then go ahead.

Never mind, I'm done with this argument. I didn't really think it through enough before I posted and I can't back it up now.

He isn't going to start, and it's not a question of toughness here. It's the right thing to do, especially if the Chiefs make the playoffs. They'll need him 100% to go against the Jets, Ravens, or Steelers.

Let's see what Brodie can do with an improved line and actual playmakers around him.

Cassel playing or not playing has nothing to do with whether or not Haley has the "balls" to sit him... He's not a giant pussy like Childress.

Cassel will not play this week. If he does, I'll respect him even more as a person because he will be trying to throw the ball through some ridiculous pain. I just hope it doesn't make him antsy in the pocket even more than he already is.

Some men are just tough on a whole nother level. We are about to see if matt is on that level.

it is our only choice......like it or not

Dear god why man? IF Cassel can play.. Great, if not :banghead: I never want to see what Brokie can do...Been there, done that...

He might but he shouldn't imo

Those little holes still go through skin,muscle etc and there are still stitches involved.


one guy goes down, the next guy needs to step up

Be more concerned with Palko playing Rivers on the scout team
Brodie could have helped the D prepare

Oh yeah, when exactly did this happen? You crack me up, man.

No kidding. Croyle has had two years through Haley's offseason conditioning program, has a better line, a killer running game and an OC with a clue in Weis.

No guarantees but it just slightly possible that he could play well.

2 games in 2006
9 games in 2007
2 games in 2008
3 games in 2009

Jesus, are you that stupid to not know that Croyle has played in a Chiefs uniform before?

Your right, He could come out and play really well or really bad. We will never know until he plays...

It really sucks that we have to even consider this option...

And this team is no different from previous years. Haven't improved at all, no sir.

No, I'm just smart enough to understand that I probably shouldn't judge him too much based on those games. Apparently, you are not.

How did Cassel do in 2009? Why aren't you holding him to the same standards?

And if Croyle shits the bed, what will be your excuse for him then?

Funny how Croyle always gets the benefit of the doubt, but yet Cassel doesnt?

Gotta love your logic...

It's just the glaring differences in their style of play. Brodie stands in the pocket like a ****ing man and his footwork, release and throwing motions have always been superior. Cassel has started to show glimpses of that during the 2nd half of this season. Take that Cassel cock out of your mouth and try to be objective for once.

I don't know what that means. The team improved and so did Cassel, so why wouldn't the same thing hold true for Croyle? You may want to revisit the meaning of logic.

I won't have an excuse for him just like I didn't have an excuse for Matt Cassel. You gave Matt around 20 games to come around, would you do the same for Croyle?

Holy shit... LMAO

Thanks for the comedy....

I will give you time to finish swallowing Croyle before we continue this... Do you push on the prostate as well?

Impending ChiefsPlanet meltdown if we lose -

1) We lost because Brokie sucks, and they should have started Cassel! FFFFFUUUUUUUU......

2) We lost because they started Cassel while he was hurt! They should have had Brodie out there! FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU..........


And if we win -

1) Thank God we won, but we looked like shit doing it! FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU.........

2) Yeah, we won, but Cassel/Brodie still sucks, and we're going to get curbstomped in the playoffs! FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU.............

Is the doctor's name Dr. Spaceman? Sorry just watched 30 Rock season 1.

Over time, you are correct, but you telling me that Croyle is going to come out and play better than Cassel has this last half of the season? Based on what? His previous play?

I wouldnt be surprised if you see a very very limited game plan for Croyle. Guy hasnt played a meaningful snap in what seams like years.. This has all the makings of handcuffing like they did Cassel early in the year...

So you concede?

:clap:

Yeah pretty much... Its CP for crying out loud....

NO NEVER!!!! DIE IN A FLAMING AIDS BUSH!:harumph:

I am pretty darn stoked about it.

I may have missed where I said any of that.

I wonder how confident Haley and Weis are?

Actually Cassel is the one that has been getting the benefit of the doubt, he just needs better players around him.
In the games Brodie Croyle has played, I have never seen him make some of the stupid throws and fumbles that Cassel has made.

If you go back to the game Tom Brady got taken out by Pollard, the Partriots reciprocated on Brodie. He suffered the same kind of tackle and injury that took out Tony Romo this year. The tackler wrapped up the QBs back arm, so he can't break his fall, then drives his shoulder into the ground.

The second major injury of Brodie, was a tackle similar to the one that took Vick out this year. Sandwiched in the middle by two tacklers.

I think the guy has had time to mature, get stronger and gain some wisdom. I am darned excited about seeing him play. He will probably make some mistakes, due to lack of play, but I doubt his misses any wide open receivers by 5 yards.

Yeah, I think they've just conceded to the fact that they are going to lose, and are game planning as such.

If Cassel doesn't play -

"The doctor on NFLN said he should be able to play. Cassel is a pussy"

If Cassel plays but plays poorly -

"Cassle should have known he couldn't play so soon. He is selfish and killing the team"

If Cassel plays well -

"Well, the Chargers are really banged up, so we got away with it. However, he could have really hurt the team, plus he might have re-aggravated the injury and hurt the team by missing more time"

;)

Look at the bright side. If Cassel is out for at least a couple games, this will give them a chance to truly evaluate Brodie when the real bullets are flying. If he does well and avoids injury, he will continue to be a back and we can feel confident about it. If OTOH, he stinks it up, the Chiefs know that they need to sign another QB to take that spot.

This thread is full of stupid.

If the truth were to be known, I bet they are glad as well, seriously. Due to the contract, they have had to work with Cassel, and they have done pretty darn well with it.
Weis will have a QB on the field that has the talent, and has done something besides set on the bench as a backup.

From Wikipedia on Croyle:

Undaunted, he fully recovered from the injury in 2005 and started all 12 games as a senior; completing 202 of 339 passes for 2,499 yards with 14 touchdowns and four interceptions and one rushing touchdown. Croyle led the Crimson Tide to a #8 national ranking, a 10–2 record, and a 13–10 victory over Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl Classic, where he shared the game's Most Valuable Player honors with teammate DeMeco Ryans.[1][9][10][11][12] In his final season at Alabama, Croyle attempted a then-school-record 190 passes without an interception and a finalist for the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award as the nation’s most outstanding senior quarterback.[1] He became the first Alabama quarterback to start every game in a season since 1996.[12]

His 2,499 passing yards in 2005 were the highest single-season total in Alabama's school history. His total 202 completions and 339 passing attempts rank as the second-best seasonal marks in school annals.[1] His 2,311 yards of total offense were the third-best seasonal mark in the history of the school, and his 1.18 interception percentage was the lowest single-season mark in school history as well.


Haley wanted him resigned for a reason, Haley knows that he is a player.

Yeah, this would have been a hard game to win anyway --

So did they just forfiet already?

Probably, knowing Cassel is hurt and Brodie is the backup.

Then there is nothing to worry about...

Dang, I wonder if DTV will refund me that game? Maybe I should call them now...

Protect the guy that's carrying the franchise.

**** this "rush him back" BS.

Whatever argument wins on CP really has no relevance on the QB situation. Casshole will be the starter under Haley and hopefully Brodie can step up and be the solid b/u we're banking on...

I am not worried, and I am looking forward to this game even more now.

Don't get me wrong, I was 100% behind Cassel and the progress he has made. The Seattle game was almost like something divine happened, hopefully we will see more of that after he properly heals.

But to think he has to be on the field, for this team to have a chance is wrong IMO.
I stand by the fact that I think Brodie has more talent for the position.

And that differs from rest of the threads here how?

These message board doctors are hilarious.

Was this the same DR. that did Cassels surgery? Didn't sound to me like it was.

Or dead from a bleed out :(

LOL wish I had some rep

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Brodie

GS/W ATT CMP PCT YDS TD INT LG SK RATE
9/0 230 136 59.1 1255 7 5 50 17.0 75.2

Two words: Internal Bleeding

Not true...That has ZERO to do with anything...Please post a link to where any of the NFL doctors say this is a risk...

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How could you forget Mark Bradley?

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Gastroe...my/show/236197

Not the NFL doctor interviews, but a surgeon nonetheless.

Surgery = risk, no matter how minute it is or insignificant (sp) it may seam to be. There is risk.

I'm having surgery next week on friday, for my back. I have a herniated disk in my low lumbar. It is crushing a nerve and I have been in great pain since April this year. Sucks to be me! I'm hopefull however and am looking forward to the relief that the surgery may give me. It's called a diskectomy. Doc said I should be back to normal with in a week time recovery. I'm not even scared cuz I am marveled at how far they have come in medical practice. There is risk Doc said. "Possible nerve damage,infection, paralize, or death." No worries :)

I've liked Cassel more this last month and have become more comfortable with him as our QB. I still think Croyle can do a great job and just want the best for the Chiefs. So I am exited who ever gets to play on sunday but think it would be for best, if Cassel takes this week off just for his own health and long term success for the Chiefs, so that no unnessisary complications from his recent surgery occur.

~skews my spelling~like I care.

I wouldn't take the chance of playing him if I were Haley.

It's just too much of a risk. You want to ensure that your quarterback is fully recovered and will come back healthy in hopefully at least 2 weeks.

It's not like this is a MUST win situation for the Chiefs anyway? Why not just rest Cassel.

darn it again!

This doctor should lose his license.

Love me some Jon Lord