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We will beat the Ravens...Here's why (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239803)

Hog's Gone Fishin

01-07-2011 07:35 AM

We will beat the Ravens...Here's why

Joe Flacco the last 3 games has averaged 133 yards per game.

172 /Texans

102 / Brown

125 / Bengals

Those teams suck !

We stop Ray Rice and they are thru. Our young fast secondary will take advantage of an inept Flacco.

We put up 17 points. We win by 10.

Mr_Tomahawk

01-07-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7327962)

Like your optimism...but it's the "...stop Ray Rice" part I am a bit concerned about.

Warrior5

01-07-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7327971)

Like your optimism...but it's the "...stop Ray Rice" part I am a bit concerned about.

Me too, but KC stopped CJ and good things happened.

Mr_Tomahawk

01-07-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5 (Post 7327993)

Me too, but KC stopped CJ and good things happened.

Knowshon....Michael Bush...career days.

Reerun_KC

01-07-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7327996)

Knowshon....Michael Bush...career days.

Is always easier to cherry pick stats to be negative... But how many Career days have the Ravens given up this year?

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 7327782)

Offensively, they don't scare me at all. We match up very well in that regard. Bolden is still Bolden so you have to respect that but Mason and Hoosyourmama are washed up. Heap is a shell of his former self. Stallworth, they rarely pass to. Their Oline is BAD and Oher is banged up. Flacco is grossly overrated and REALLY stinks in the playoffs. I don't know why people are worried about Ray Rice. We have done much better against Ray Rice type backs than we have against big backs.

Defensively, they are overrated. They can't rush the passer. Their "vaunted run defense" is overrated. If you look at their games, they aren't really stopping the teams #1 back. They are doing a great job against backups. (IE, Charles will get his yards and Thomas will get 2.2 YPC). If you look at the list below, not only aren't the stopping teams #1 RB's but they haven't faced a back of the caliber of Charles except Adrian Foster, who averaged 5.0 YPC.

Thomlinson -- 5.6 YPC
Cedric Benson -- 3.4 YPC (about his average)
Peyton Hillis -- 6.5 YPC
Mendenhall -- 3.2 (average is 3.9 over the season, but this was with Charlie Batch in at QB)
Moroney -- 4.5 (6 carries, denver hardly ran it)
Woodhead -- 5.7 (never heard of him, 11/63 for NE)
Fred Jackson -- 3.2 (who?)
Ronnie Brown -- 6.6
Michael Turner 2.3 (first good RB that they've stopped. 9 games into the season. Granted, anyone that watches football knows that he's lost a step)
M. Goodson -- 5.5 YPC (20/120..who?)
Blount -- 4.2 YPC
Mendenhall -- 2.4 YPC (rematch wasn't good. Big Ben was in, so no excuse. Still a 3.9 YPC back though)
Adrian Foster -- 5.0 YPC
Pierre Thomas 3.3 YPC (Year average is 3.2)
Peyton Hillis -- 2.9 YPC (McCoy was in, terrible offensive day overall by the Browns)
Benson --2.5 YPC (It's the Bengals)

The more and more that I look at the Ravens, the more I think we have a better than 50/50 chance to win.

KC_Lee

01-07-2011 08:17 AM

We can win if the Ravens D does not take JC out. Look at the 2008 playoff game with the Titans. CJ was running all over the field until Raw Lewis bent him backwards and took him out the game, after that the game was over.

The Ravens are big and strong but not fast and strong, which plays into the Chief's favor with JC.

Mile High Mania

01-07-2011 08:18 AM

Should be a good game... won't be easy for either team. KC is still a tough place for visiting teams, will be crazy this weekend I'm sure.

But, don't discount the Ravens so easily... the Chiefs have their fair share of warts as well. They have a good team and a lot of playoff experience in recent years.

Mr_Tomahawk

01-07-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7328000)

Is always easier to cherry pick stats to be negative... But how many Career days have the Ravens given up this year?

OK....then let me reword my point.

Chiefs gave up 137 yards to a second string RB at home in their last game. I hope they solved whatever problems they had.

blaise

01-07-2011 08:26 AM

I think there's a game against the Saints that was between the Texans and Browns. I agree that the Chiefs can beat the Ravens, but there's something else about all those games you listed- the Ravens won them.

Mr_Tomahawk

01-07-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7328021)

Good point.

Mile High Mania

01-07-2011 08:37 AM

Ravens lost 4 games ... Bengals (week 2), then the Patriots, Falcons and Steelers. The last three are all in the playoffs with 14, 13 and 12 wins respectively. The Ravens also beat the Jets, Steelers, Bucs and Saints - all solid records.

Chiefs lost 6 games ... Colts, Texans, Raiders X2, Broncos and Chargers. The Chiefs beat one team that made the playoffs... the Seahawks.

Gimme Ravens by 10. :thumb:

Red Dawg

01-07-2011 08:43 AM

Scoring will be really tough for us. Bowe could be shut down by them. Charles will not be running throgh big holes either. We need secondary players and be very physical up front. I fear we are don't have either.

blaise

01-07-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 7328040)

What's the line on this weekend's Bronco game?

KCUnited

01-07-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7328047)

What's the line on this weekend's Bronco game?

Potential DUI's -3

Reerun_KC

01-07-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7328020)

OK....then let me reword my point.

Chiefs gave up 137 yards to a second string RB at home in their last game. I hope they solved whatever problems they had.

So have the Ravens... M. Goodson -- 5.5 YPC (20/120..who?)

Mile High Mania

01-07-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7328047)

What's the line on this weekend's Bronco game?

http://www.autonerdz.com/yabbfiles/a...s/Mr._Bill.jpg

You hit me hard with that one... enh, not really.

Bwana

01-07-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7328047)

What's the line on this weekend's Bronco game?

Mostly cloudy, lots of couch and 73. ;)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31bB-cW778L.jpg

Mr_Tomahawk

01-07-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7328054)

So have the Ravens... M. Goodson -- 5.5 YPC (20/120..who?)

Ravens win 37-13.

Reerun_KC

01-07-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7328060)

Ravens win 37-13.

And? Still a career day... they can be run on...

Mr_Tomahawk

01-07-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7328065)

And? Still a career day... they can be run on...

Ha...ok...wait, how did this go from us stopping the run, to us running on them?

milkman

01-07-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 7328045)

Have you even looked at the Ravens secondary?

patteeu

01-07-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7327996)

Knowshon....Michael Bush...career days.

In the case of Knowshon, the Chiefs were playing extra DBs to ground Air Orton. They most likely won't be doing that against Joe Flacco.

In the case of the Raiders, the Chiefs did well against them in the first game and I don't think you can take too much out of the week 17 contest.

patteeu

01-07-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 7328045)

Huh? What do you mean?

MahiMike

01-07-2011 09:38 AM

Records mean nothing. Football is a game of matchups. We match up pretty good against this team. As long as Cassel can spread the ball around to about 6 different targets early, we win.

R8RFAN

01-07-2011 09:39 AM

Congrats to you guys for making the playoffs but you are going to get the living hell beat out of you against the Ravens.

patteeu

01-07-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7328132)

Congrats to you guys for making the playoffs but you are going to get the living hell beat out of you against the Ravens.

Thanks. Enjoy your free weekend.

R8RFAN

01-07-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7328164)

Thanks. Enjoy your free weekend.

Yup, gonna be a great weekend to watch football..

Ahh the reassuring signs that the first week of the playoffs are here ...

Snow on the ground
Children bundled up in big coats and gloves
Chiefs Choking in the Playoffs LMAO

Chiefs Pantalones

01-07-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7328221)

At least we made it. How did your season turn out? Oh yeah. Embarrassingly the first team to go 6-0 in the division and you didn't make the playoffs. Raiders: Continuing to find ways to suck year after year. What a great franchise.

luv	01-07-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7328221)

A classy Raiders fan (I know, I was shocked, too) wished us luck after the game last week. He said he thought we stood a good chance against whichever team we played. I guess that dude was one in a million (or in other words, the only one).

Reerun_KC

01-07-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7328221)

:facepalm:

Seriously? that is the best you can come with?

Reerun_KC

01-07-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7328221)

I will take 0-2 to the raiders every year, just to be considered playoff chokers...

At least were in the post season and won enough games to play in the post season...

R8RFAN

01-07-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7328224)

Yep, you did make it and that is something to be very proud of, I would be too.

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7328225)

Honestly I do not wish for the Chiefs to win and I want them to continue on their first round loss streak but what I think or want will not determine this game, that Ravens D will.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7328226)

:facepalm:

Seriously? that is the best you can come with?

Thats all I got dawg LMAO

Halfcan

01-07-2011 10:58 AM

Are we done saving Charles??????????

Hey Weis-are we done sitting JC on the bench and watching 1 yard Jones fall at the line of scrimmage time after time????

Charles is the best player on the team-time to put it on him and see what he can do with 25-30 touches a game.

Weis-PLAY JC PLEASE!!!!!

Reerun_KC

01-07-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 7328295)

:LOL:

Halfcan

01-07-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7328266)

Yep, you did make it and that is something to be very proud of, I would be too.

Honestly I do not wish for the Chiefs to win and I want them to continue on their first round loss streak but what I think or want will not determine this game, that Ravens D will.

Thats all I got dawg LMAO

Hey dipshit-sorry you had to put away your Darth Vader suit and Biker boots for another offseason-but take that trash talk to another board.

threebag

01-07-2011 11:07 AM

I am also on the "We WIN by 10" bandwagon.

DrRyan

01-07-2011 01:48 PM

If JC doesn't get his first carry until we are several series into the game and nearing the end of the first quarter I think I will explode. So frustrating watching the offense start slow many times this season while Charles is sitting on the bench.

Please Chuck, start the game with aggressive play calling!
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