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epitome1170 01-14-2011 12:33 PM

Not So Free Puppies
 
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Like Luv, I also have some puppies that I need to get rid of (hopefully without anitfreeze). They are 7 week old Imperial Shih Tzus.

The mother and stud are AKC registered Imperial Shih Tzus. Additionally, the stud was a show dog and of superior line. There are 2 girls and 3 boys that we have, all of which will have their first set of vaccinnations tomorrow morning.

The Franchise 01-14-2011 12:34 PM

And here I thought you were talking about paying for boobs.

ChiTown 01-14-2011 12:35 PM

OK, as far as cute dogs go, that's not too shabby.

Nice looking pups.

Rain Man 01-14-2011 12:48 PM

If those dogs were on chiefsplanet, they'd be:


12.5 Norwegian Elkhound
12.5 German Pinscher
12.5 Miniature Pinscher
12.5 Smooth Fox Terrier
12.5 Bearded Collie
12.5 Chinese Crested
12.5 Beauceron
12.5 Brussels Griffon

Toadkiller 01-14-2011 12:53 PM

Cute! So glad we don't live near you or my wife would have her friggen lapdog she has always wanted.

Graystoke 01-14-2011 12:58 PM

I had a Shih Tzu long ago. Freaking smart dog.

CrazyPhuD 01-14-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toadkiller (Post 7354540)
Cute! So glad we don't live near you or my wife would have her friggen lapdog she has always wanted.

USPS flat rate box!

Toadkiller 01-14-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7354561)
USPS flat rate box!

I am not heartless, I would probably spring for 2 day delivery.

epitome1170 01-14-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 7354551)
I had a Shih Tzu long ago. Freaking smart dog.

Smart, but pretty stubborn.

They are meant to be lap dogs (to warm the royal feet actually) so they are very independent and most of the time don't do tricks (besides learning to pee outside).

epitome1170 01-14-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toadkiller (Post 7354540)
Cute! So glad we don't live near you or my wife would have her friggen lapdog she has always wanted.

They do have shipping companies that ship dogs.

I will mark you down for 3 of them then.

Lonewolf Ed 01-14-2011 01:27 PM

I would be interested if you had rottweiler pups. Mine is 11 and a half and I am afraid the end of the trail is coming up. I am looking for pups born to a mother who was 2 years old before being bred. Breeding younger dogs seems to be what is causing health problems like hip dysplasia in rottweilers. Demand is too high now and that is not good for the breed. I also want one that won't get too big. Mine is about 100-102 lbs. and while smaller for a rott, she's a big dog. I am not looking for something that will grow up to look like a small black bear.

epitome1170 01-14-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed (Post 7354630)
I would be interested if you had rottweiler pups. Mine is 11 and a half and I am afraid the end of the trail is coming up. I am looking for pups born to a mother who was 2 years old before being bred. Breeding younger dogs seems to be what is causing health problems like hip dysplasia in rottweilers. Demand is too high now and that is not good for the breed. I also want one that won't get too big. Mine is about 100-102 lbs. and while smaller for a rott, she's a big dog. I am not looking for something that will grow up to look like a small black bear.

Not a breeder, so I can't really help you. We just bred our female to avoid future complications (i.e. ovarian cancer is decreased for Shih Tzus after they have a litter... or so says our vet).

KCFalcon59 01-14-2011 01:46 PM

So what do they cost?

epitome1170 01-14-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59 (Post 7354703)
So what do they cost?

$250 for the males
$400 for the females

MOhillbilly 01-14-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome1170 (Post 7354713)
$250 for the males
$400 for the females

i never understood the price jump from males to females.

seclark 01-14-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7354736)
i never understood the price jump from males to females.

same way w/humans. that's just the way it is.
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CrazyPhuD 01-14-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7354736)
i never understood the price jump from males to females.

Bitches just cost more, you don't know this by now?:hmmm:

epitome1170 01-14-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7354736)
i never understood the price jump from males to females.

Females can get pregnant so it is widely accepted that since they have "potential" to make money for the new owner that they cost more.

MOhillbilly 01-14-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome1170 (Post 7354759)
Females can get pregnant so it is widely accepted that since they have "potential" to make money for the new owner that they cost more.

good stud dogs can make 100x the money,

epitome1170 01-14-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7354767)
good stud dogs can make 100x the money,

Depends on the breed. For shih tzus, it is becoming common place that the owner of the stud have first pick of the litter, but no monetary compensation.

MOhillbilly 01-14-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome1170 (Post 7354779)
Depends on the breed. For shih tzus, it is becoming common place that the owner of the stud have first pick of the litter, but no monetary compensation.

Thats pretty common with an unproven stud dog.

Good luck. Hope they all get good homes.

Skyy God 01-14-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7354736)
i never understood the price jump from males to females.

I personally prefer the temperament of males. The rescue home inspector for my cocker cracked me up discussing the difference in personality. Her line was, they call them bitches for a reason.

HoneyBadger 01-14-2011 03:26 PM

Awww puppies

jd1020 01-14-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome1170 (Post 7354759)
Females can get pregnant so it is widely accepted that since they have "potential" to make money for the new owner that they cost more.

Sperm donations?

jd1020 01-14-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7355058)
I personally prefer the temperament of males. The rescue home inspector for my cocker cracked me up discussing the difference in personality. Her line was, they call them bitches for a reason.

I'd get a female if I was looking for a guard dog, thats for sure.

epitome1170 01-14-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7355081)
Sperm donations?

I am pretty sure Iowanian could hook you up.

MOhillbilly 01-14-2011 03:30 PM

i dont like male dogs for pets, or huntin prospects.

Take to long to get right.

DeezNutz 01-14-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7355093)
i dont like male dogs for pets, or huntin prospects.

Take to long to get right.

Why do you think this is?

I have a male and female shepherd, and the male took about twice as long to train. Smart as hell and a great dog, but he had a bit more stubborn in him, for some reason.

Radar Chief 01-14-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7355093)
i dont like male dogs for pets, or huntin prospects.

Take to long to get right.

^This.
Males are typically more bull headed and harder to train than females.

Radar Chief 01-14-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7355101)
Why do you think this is?

I have a male and female shepherd, and the male took about twice as long to train. Smart as hell and a great dog, but he had a bit more stubborn in him, for some reason.

I think you’ve got your answer right there.

DeezNutz 01-14-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 7355116)
I think you’ve got your answer right there.

That was my thought, but I haven't owned enough male dogs to generalize. Always had females, as both a kid and adult, until now, of course.

MOhillbilly 01-14-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7355101)
Why do you think this is?

I have a male and female shepherd, and the male took about twice as long to train. Smart as hell and a great dog, but he had a bit more stubborn in him, for some reason.

IMO its the natural order males are head strong because they have balls & wanna subvert the alpha. Females tend to fall into the roll of beta quicker. Less distractions.

Chief Chief 01-14-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7354736)
i never understood the price jump from males to females.

Dude, ya gotta think about this in human terms: Go out, pay for, and enjoy (or at least try to enjoy) the full line of services of a male prostitute. Then, pay the same amount of money for a female prostitute and see what ya get.

Yes, it's that simple.

Radar Chief 01-14-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7355131)
That was my thought, but I haven't owned enough male dogs to generalize. Always had females, as both a kid and adult, until now, of course.

My first try training a bird dog was with a male. He was so difficult and took so long to train I was thinking the problem was me. Then my next bird dog was a female and she took to it so much easier I never switched back.

Radar Chief 01-14-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7355136)
IMO its the natural order males are head strong because they have balls & wanna subvert the alpha. Females tend to fall into the roll of beta quicker. Less distractions.

Good way of putting it.

MOhillbilly 01-14-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief (Post 7355147)
Dude, ya gotta think about this in human terms: Go out, pay for, and enjoy (or at least try to enjoy) the full line of services of a male prostitute. Then, pay the same amount of money for a female prostitute and see what ya get.

Yes, it's that simple.

but its not like that when you are talking about top shelf canine stock.

You cant think of it in human terms.

A proven stud is worth its weight in diamonds.

50K a year is a drop in the bucket. you get one or two litters a year out of a bitch. peanuts.

DeezNutz 01-14-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7355136)
IMO its the natural order males are head strong because they have balls & wanna subvert the alpha. Females tend to fall into the roll of beta quicker. Less distractions.

Makes a lot of sense.

Mr. Plow 01-14-2011 04:07 PM

Damn. If I had $400 to waste.

beach tribe 01-14-2011 04:15 PM

Can you send me one UPS? Just stick im' in one of those over-sized envelopes.

J/K


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