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luv 02-08-2011 09:38 PM

Neil Smith in Springfield this Saturday
 
At Bair's Sports Bar and Grill on the corner of Primrose and Campbell (where Wheat State Pizza used to be). He will be signing autographs starting at 2:00pm.

Hammock Parties 02-08-2011 09:41 PM

It would be awesome if no one showed up.

Frazod 02-08-2011 09:42 PM

I wonder if he'd like my autograph. It would read "**** YOU BRONCO TRAITOR, DIE IN A FIRE. SINCERELY, FRAZOD."

luv 02-08-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7418121)
It would be awesome if no one showed up.

Well, it won't be awesome then, because I am going.


Wait....that doesn't sound right.

2112 02-08-2011 09:44 PM

Didnt he have all those neat Bronco band aids over his nostrils to make him breathe easier?

Trevo_410 02-08-2011 09:53 PM

ight, i guess i was to young to know what happened when Neil Smith went to Denver... why are you guys bashing on him though?... all i have heard about him was that he was part of the defense in the 90's that revived our organization...

srs question.

Dante84 02-08-2011 09:57 PM

NS is a POS.... he came in the bar I worked at a few times this past summer.

Multiple no tips on big tabs. Our waitresses wanted to kill him.

gblowfish 02-08-2011 10:06 PM

Thank him for knocking the Chiefs out of the playoffs twice.
Rat Bastard.

Ebolapox 02-08-2011 10:20 PM

**** neil smith. maybe we can call SHHHHHHHH on him.

Groves 02-08-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7418121)
It would be awesome if no one showed up.

Official Springfield CP gathering, Blair's sportsbar this Saturday!

SPchief 02-08-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groves (Post 7418234)
Official Springfield CP gathering, Blair's sportsbar this Saturday!

LMAO

BigMeatballDave 02-08-2011 10:33 PM

**** that traitor

CaliforniaChief 02-08-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7418125)
I wonder if he'd like my autograph. It would read "**** YOU BRONCO TRAITOR, DIE IN A FIRE. SINCERELY, FRAZOD."

LMAO

LiveSteam 02-08-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevo_410 (Post 7418152)
ight, i guess i was to young to know what happened when Neil Smith went to Denver... why are you guys bashing on him though?... all i have heard about him was that he was part of the defense in the 90's that revived our organization...

srs question.

Only thing you need to know about Neil ,is that he played for the HUSKERS

KcMizzou 02-08-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7418368)
Only thing you need to know about Neil ,is that he played for the HUSKERS

Now I'm convinced. fuck that guy.

:)

Bwana 02-08-2011 11:27 PM

**** neil smith.

ShortRoundChief 02-08-2011 11:42 PM

Could you get him to autograph a roll of toilet paper for me. That's about the only use I got for that mofos signature.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-09-2011 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418118)
At Bair's Sports Bar and Grill on the corner of Primrose and Campbell (where Wheat State Pizza used to be). He will be signing autographs starting at 2:00pm.

Don't say hi to him in an enthusiastic manner, or Phobia will threaten to punch you in the mouth after the fact.

luv 02-09-2011 12:19 AM

So, I should ask him what was up with going to Denver?

Did he ask to go there? Go there as a FA? What?

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2011 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418450)
So, I should ask him what was up with going to Denver?

Did he ask to go there? Go there as a FA? What?


ROFL

He got traded for a case of bud light. He had a clause that would have prevented that trade, all he had to do was spell light. It took the entire off season and into the week of the trade deadline but we had to pull the trigger before time ran out.


You should ask him if he ever learned how to spell light. If he has he's regretted his sins and should be forgiven. If not you tell him to go straight to hell.

Rausch 02-09-2011 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418450)
So, I should ask him what was up with going to Denver?


Nope.


AIDs tree. On fire.

Put him out with anthrax powder and antifreeze...

BillSelfsTrophycase 02-09-2011 12:25 AM

That rat bastard isdead to me

luv 02-09-2011 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7418455)
ROFL

He got traded for a case of bud light. He had a clause that would have prevented that trade, all he had to do was spell light. It took the entire off season and into the week of the trade deadline but we had to pull the trigger before time ran out.


You should ask him if he ever learned how to spell light. If he has he's regretted his sins and should be forgiven. If not you tell him to go straight to hell.

You know, instead of mocking me, you could teach me something.

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418465)
You know, instead of mocking me, you could teach me something.

Calm down. Calm down. It was basically Carl's piss poor planning. They had two free agents one was Neil, one was Derrick Thomas. They kept Thomas and Neil pursued the big payday. As a fan I hate where he went, but he got paid.

That being said I don't know how much Carl offered him, but with his track record it was probably a scratched out lottery ticket and $50.

Stinger 02-09-2011 12:35 AM

I think I will tell him Pete Stoyanovich says hello......

Eh that's all I got ................

Rausch 02-09-2011 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418465)
You know, instead of mocking me, you could teach me something.

Blowjobs and silence.

luv 02-09-2011 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7418469)
Calm down. Calm down. It was basically Carl's piss poor planning. They had two free agents one was Neil, one was Derrick Thomas. They kept Thomas and Neil pursued the big payday. As a fan I hate where he went, but he got paid.

That being said I don't know how much Carl offered him, but with his track record it was probably a scratched out lottery ticket and $50.

Read a little about him on wikipedia. Sounds like most of his ties were in KC. Although he did have some great plays with a Denver team that took him to win two Super Bowls.

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418475)
Read a little about him on wikipedia. Sounds like most of his ties were in KC. Although he did have some great plays with a Denver team
that took him to win two Super Bowls.


Hence the hatred.

Rausch 02-09-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7418475)
Read a little about him on wikipedia. Sounds like most of his ties were in KC. Although he did have some great plays with a Denver team that took him to win two Super Bowls.

"It's nice to finally play for the good guys..."

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2011 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7418482)
"It's nice to finally play for the good guys..."

Did he really say that?

Rausch 02-09-2011 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7418481)
Hence the hatred.

See quote below.

I can see how it's a business, you go where you get paid, etc.

But the douche took out a full page add to state how much he loved playing in KC and blah blah blah.

THen when he's kicking our azz in Arrowhead he says...

Rausch 02-09-2011 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7418485)
Did he really say that?

On the sidelines to John ****ing Elway.


**** you Kneel, **** you...

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7418487)
On the sidelines to John ****ing Elway.


**** you Kneel, **** you...


with a rusty butter knife

TimeForWasp 02-09-2011 12:48 AM

I don't think it was Neil smiths decision to leave. Chief had to chose btw Derrick thomas and him because of the cost. Now going to Denver wasn't good. I still have good memories of Neil.


Smith says goodbye to K.C. fans


Adam Schefter, Denver Post - April 1997.
Before he signs his contract with the Denver Broncos, Neil Smith first had other business to tend to Friday: He wanted to bid farewell to Kansas City - until he sees it again on the regular season's opening day, Aug. 31, when the Broncos play the Chiefs.

At a hotel across the street from Kansas City's Arrowhead Stadium, Smith said goodbye to the city he worked in for nine years while questioning the skeptics who wonder whether he has any more Pro Bowl seasons left in him. "I'm on a mission," Smith declared. "A man on a mission is a dangerous man."

So when Smith follows through on the agreement he reached with the Broncos on Thursday and signs his one-year, incentive-laden contract next week, Denver will be getting a dangerous man. A dangerous man who is anxious to prove to Kansas City coach Marty Schottenheimer. and the rest of the Chiefs organization that they made a, mistake in letting him go.

"This is not an end for me," vowed Smith, who had only six sacks last season, his worst statistical performance since his rookie season in 1988. "I have to say I didn't have one of my best seasons, but I don't feel I'm finished. Decisions shouldn't be based on one year. That's not the right way to do it."

Playing defensive end for the Broncos, Smith will have more motivating factors than just proving his team wrong. After the 1997 season, Smith again will become a free agent. The better he plays this season, the more he could get paid the next season.

"Am I playing for a contract this year?" Smith said. "I am." It was a contract that Smith was not going to land in Kansas City. After visiting Denver last Friday, Smith spent Wednesday meeting with Schottenheimer. The coach explained to the five-lime Pro Bowl defensive end that Kansas City could not afraid to re-sign him.

....{missing}... of it was that I was on the (decline). If it's a (decline) for me, time will tell.

"But this is a part of life and it's something I have to overcome. I've been in worse, but I'm happy that I'm living and I can walk proudly. I can't let words hurt me."

Those close to Smith, those who know him best, insist there still are more Pro Bowls left in his 31-year old body.

"Time is certainly going to tell whether or not he's on the decline," Smith's agent, Eugene Parker, said Friday. "Wasn't it six years ago when people were saying that Bruce Smith's career was over? Remember that? They were saying his knees were so bad there was no way. And wasn't he defensive player of the year last year?

"Neil doesn't have a serious injury that would give rise to that. Neil has always trained hard, and proper off-season training helps a guy mere as he gets up there in age. Neil just turned (31) and defensive ends who keep themselves in good shape can play a long time in this league. And Neil is far from done. He's just getting started."

Smith has not yet finalized his plans to fly to Denver to sign his Broncos' contract. But Parker said he could sign as early as Monday and no later than Wednesday. While he is looking forward to a fresh start in Denver, it saddened Smith to say goodbye to Kansas City, once and for all.

"I'm not going to bash the organization," Smith said. "Everybody has been good to me in my time here. I've done the best I could both on the field and off the field for the Kansas City Chiefs."

Saccopoo 02-09-2011 03:20 AM

Carl Peterson was a cheap ass douche nozzle. Smith, Tait, Fujita as free agent shit your pants crap aways. Then we have the "super signings" of Welbourne, Barber, and drafting DT/DE craptasticisms every ****ing year to cover those diarretic stains down the trouser legs of Herr Peterson.

****ing Dildo.

Hey Luv, tell Neil that I would like to partake in small apology for Peterson's "**** myself in the anus because I'm a cheap ****ing tard who just likes to hire shitty coaches who cost this team draft picks and lose us games as a result" conceptualizations.

Hmmm...can't think of much else right now...oh, yes I can...hmmmmmmmmm.....(not football related)

Quesadilla Joe 02-09-2011 06:30 AM

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3914/elwaysmith.gif

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-09-2011 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7418564)
Carl Peterson was a cheap ass douche nozzle. Smith, Tait, Fujita as free agent shit your pants crap aways. Then we have the "super signings" of Welbourne, Barber, and drafting DT/DE craptasticisms every ****ing year to cover those diarretic stains down the trouser legs of Herr Peterson.

****ing Dildo.

Hey Luv, tell Neil that I would like to partake in small apology for Peterson's "**** myself in the anus because I'm a cheap ****ing tard who just likes to hire shitty coaches who cost this team draft picks and lose us games as a result" conceptualizations.

Hmmm...can't think of much else right now...oh, yes I can...hmmmmmmmmm.....(not football related)

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Holy Mother of ****; Sacc just made me laugh for realz.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-09-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7418596)

KnowMo; you mother****ing mother****er.:shake:

Extra Point 02-09-2011 10:01 AM

I just pos repped Saccopoo. 2012 is a year early.

MOhillbilly 02-09-2011 10:03 AM

Is he bringin a translator?

Extra Point 02-09-2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7418869)
Is he bringin a translator?

No. Frazod's booked up.













:p

Frazod 02-09-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extra Point (Post 7418884)
No. Frazod's booked up.



:p

He wouldn't need a translator for this 4321

|Zach| 02-09-2011 10:22 AM

Those set athlete appearances are awkward as hell. I am surprised people go to those.

MOhillbilly 02-09-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7418900)
Those set athlete appearances are awkward as hell. I am surprised people go to those.

Its Spfld. Noones gonna show.

vailpass 02-09-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7418596)

LMAO

Dartgod 02-09-2011 12:31 PM

I love me some Neilbonics...

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=207824

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 5774750)
I'm sure this has been posted before, but Greg Hall is posting his Off The Couch column again and every once in a while he will pull out an oldie-but-goody. This past weekend he dusted off his Neilbonics (Neil Smith) column from December 2003.

LINK

OTC Throwback: A Classic Collection of Neilbonics
greg

This compilation of Neilbonics quotes and comments was originally written for The Platte County Landmark in December 2003. That, my friends, seems impossibly long ago. I hope you enjoy this one because it is one of my favorites.

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Neil Smith’s comments made during his appearances on Channel 5 for their pre- and postgame shows this past season resulted in a new phenomenon here in the land of OTC that I dubbed “Neilbonics.” If Neilbonics were a Broadway show, it would be sold out for the next year. That is how popular the former Chiefs’ defensive end’s verbiage was to those who frequently read this column. Here is a heaping helping of some of Neil’s more “perceptional” quotes and my comments as they originally appeared.

•“I think Dick Vermeil said it best. This team is now jilling toward each other.”
Neil Smith, who said “jilling” not “jelling”, Channel 5

GH: The funniest new show this fall isn’t on any of the networks radar screens, it’s Channel 5’s postgame show hosted by Leif Lisec and Neil Smith. Smith has his own brand of Ebonics that is hilarious. Read on for more samples of Neilbonics. You may need to read some of these twice or more to get the true flavor of Smith’s verbal massacre of logic, fact and language.

•“Actually this guy (Troy Brown) had a perceptional year today. … I think he went 10-for-10 or 12-for12. … His completion percentage was great. I love the way he was catching the ball.”
Neil Smith, on the Patriots wide receiver, Channel 5

•“You know why? I think why. This is the reason why. Because I think what New England did today, they axe-ually they just everything you could probably the reverse they tried to do all kind of trick plays.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: These are not typos. This is how the former Cornhusker speaks. There’s more…

•“We having very, very much problems right up the center of our defense. … That’s a lot of balls that he do underthrow that he shouldn’t. … McGloski (Maslowski) picked off this ball here but McGloski, please, whatever you do, don’t let an offensive lineman catch you! … This is great coming out after halftime what Dante Hall do here. For a little guy, he’s very shifty. … ”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

•“I can’t take too much of this there no more as far as them winning these close games.”
Neil Smith, after the Chiefs lost 41-38 to the Pats, Channel 5

•“I gave the (Chiefs) offense a C.”
Neil Smith, after the offense scored 38 points at the home of the Super Bowl champs, Channel 5

GH: Neil is lucky the profs at Nebraska were much easier graders.

•“There are some changes that have to be made. I think you start on the cornerback position. You actually have to start with (Eric) Warfield. I think Warfield needs to be put down before he can really realize exactly what’s happening to him.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Does Neil want Warfield to swim with the fishes? Neilbonics is back and as hilarious as ever. Smith teamed with his perfect straight man, Leif Lisec, on Channel 5’s postgame show to give his own special Chiefs analysis that only ‘Nawlins’ Neil can give. Read on for more.

•“This guy is just tremendously. … He’s got a lot of more football left in this season.”
Neil Smith, on Priest Holmes, Channel 5

•“I’ll tell you, you cannot have Masnowski (Mike Maslowski) run with Shannon Sharpe. You just can’t do that. That’s like an offensive lineman running with a tight end. We just have to do a better job of getting those safeties to (Sharpe) and not leaving Maslowsli to run with Shannon Sharpe for 80 yards.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: This is at least the second and third pronunciation Smith has used for Maslowski this season. Last month he had him pegged as an Irishman, McGloski.

•“Here’s what I think is going to happen. The coach, Dick Vermeil, is going to overlook everything and there will be some changes here (on the defense). I think what’s going to happen is that they are going to have to putting some players and benching them.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Nothing I do in this column is more tedious than transcribing Neilbonics verbatim…or more rewarding.

•“They always come through because they always says what they have to mean.”
Neil Smith, on veteran players like Shannon Sharpe coming through in the clutch, Channel 5

•“Trevor Pryce uses the chop move (past John Tait). … I does that when I was playing and I think he picked it up.”
Neil Smith, while watching video of Pryce blowing past Tait to sacked Green, Channel 5

•“Rod Smith actually did have a great game but what when he did come back and redeemed himself early he dropped the football.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: If your head isn’t hurting after reading that one, call Channel 5 and ask them if they have an opening for a translator.

•“The Denver defense has been outstanding against players but they haven’t played against (Priest Holmes). This guy is inceptional because he’s got so many things he can do to hurt your defense.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Inceptional? Isn’t that what got Marty Schottenheimer in trouble?

•“Only thing he do is he go along the line of scrimmage and no one untouched him.”
Neil Smith, on the Broncos Keith Burns blocking a Chiefs punt in overtime, Channel 5

•“To give up 113 yards you know to the Denver defense but we still lost.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: What’s great about this show is that Leif Lisec never even blinks while Smith is letting these pearls fly. He pretends that Smith is not only making sense but that he’s somehow being insightful. The heck with Everybody Loves Raymond, this show is the funniest thing on CBS.

•“I don’t know if this is Mixnutchzki or perhaps Glenn Cadrez…”
Neil Smith, attempting to identify Mike Maslowski, Channel 5

GH: Chalk up pronunciation number four for Maslowski’s surname for you Neilbonics fans out there. I think Neil should just go with calling him “the little bald dude.”

•“I think this team is on track to getting to where they want to be at. They having a slight little problem, but they have to work it out within the home of that Chiefs offense. I tell you what, if they can do that then they can get it together they can go out and win it.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Good thing Neil’s on Channel 5 and not Kietzman’s radio show or KK would ban his Neilbonics from the air because he’s too difficult to understand.

•“In Denver, they going to use (the scoreboard) to get the Broncos fired up. They going to actually pronounce the scores (of other games) and what quarter it is so they will know today (if the Raiders and Chargers win or lose).”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Yes, Neil’s back and in late-season form. Read on and feel free to pronounce your Neilbonics out loud.

•“Everything knows that you have to score pernts (points) in order to win the ball game. If the Chiefs can score 30 or more pernts, they can win this ball game.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

•“I think (Trevor Pryce) was simply saying that we have what it takes in this room to get it done. But then if one thing lead to another, then when the media take something and run away from it, then the coaches have to step up and say, ‘You know, I did it.’”
Neil Smith, referring to Pryce’s controversial quote from earlier this week where he said the Broncos are the most talented team in the NFL, Channel 5

GH: Hey, I just type ‘em up. I don’t translate ‘em too. I don’t think even Neil knew what the hell he was trying to say here.

•“I’ve never known Mike Shanahan to leach out at a player.”
Neil Smith, when asked about Shanahan’s angry response to Price’s above comment, Channel 5

•“I think it does effect you when you there. I was there for two years and it took me about that long to get aptitude to it.”
Neil Smith, when asked if the altitude in Denver bothers the players, Channel 5

GH: I’ve been listening to Neil since his freshman year at Nebraska and I have yet to get aptitude to it.

•“I think both of these teams respectively give each other respect. And that’s why it’s become that real, real crucial of a rivalry. What Chiefs team’s gonna to show up is going to bow down to what’s going to happen today. They have to show up today and play some solid football. If not they will be right back where we was again flat if they don’t get this win.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Can you imagine the conversations Neil and Gunther must have had back in the 90s? I’ll bet they had to both wear those United Nations headsets while somebody translated for them.

•“Clearly, no one untouched and you’re not going to out footrace Dante Hall when he’s in first gear…or second gear.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: I’m guessing Neil drives an automatic.

•“No one haven’t got around (Priest Holmes) yet to stop him.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

•“Well, what it it did, is the Chiefs actually brought eight in the box. So they actually have more than they need. As you see, McNowski (Mike Maslowski) right here takes the inside charge and beats his guy to the snap.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: Ahhh, the Irish lad McNowski is back among us wee folk.

•“They moved the (Broncos’) stadium over from the parking lot and that’s kinda like the mystique ground is not there no more.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: I’m guessing whoever got stuck paying that moving bill is still hurting for cash.

•“They don’t care who you are. If you don’t be on the plane at a certain time when you supposed to, they will leave you on the dot. And you will have to find your way to Seattle to try to get a plane that day to beat us to get to the play on tomorrow.”
Neil Smith, trying to explain how much emphasis Marty Schottenheimer places on his players in regard to promptness, Channel 5

GH: I reread this quote three times and finally came to the conclusion that you best have your ass on that plane on time, because I believe the alternative actions he described may necessitate finding a time machine.

•“I think anytime you have a guy that’s been out for the second time he’s been out and he gets the second-string guy gets a second opportunity, I think this is his time to shine.”
Neil Smith, when asked how he thought Mike Cloud would fair in the San Diego game, Channel 5

GH: Feel free to adjust the punctuation any way you desire. It’s still Neilbonics to me.

•“I think the biggest responsibility is when you lose Tony Richardson. He’s pretty much the focus of the running game. I think that was a big, big hurt.”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: A few teams have actually thought that Priest Holmes was the focus of the Chiefs running game.

•“Rob Smith does a great job of keeping both feet inbounds here after the play was resumed.”
Neil Smith, reviewing video of the Chiefs loss to Denver, Channel 5

GH: When was the play stopped?

•“Derrick Thomas has a little problem being late for the airport…”
Neil Smith, Channel 5

GH: This might be the understatement of the decade.

The day after this Off The Couch column ran on The Landmark’s website, I checked my Yahoo email account about 3 PM and found I had 38 in my inbox. 60 minutes later I had 150. I was at work and did not have time to investigate why I was suddenly being spammed. It turns out it wasn’t spam but an unexpected mass response from all across the country to my Neilbonics column.

The Sports Guy, Bill Simmons, had linked to my OTC in his ESPN.com that day. One of his readers had sent him the link. Simmons wrote in his column that it was one of the funniest things he had read and that everyone needed to follow the link and read it for themselves. Let’s just say Bill has a lot of readers who do what he asks. For weeks I continued to receive loads of emails from almost every state as the link kept appearing on websites and forums across the net. And let me tell you, many of those emails were so funny I was in tears.

One of my favorite things about that time was that when I retired my OTC a few years back, I got a number of emails from out-of-town readers who said they started reading me after hearing of the Neilbonics column and never stopped. A good many of them were even Broncos fans. Enjoy your weekend.

[email protected]


Ebolapox 02-09-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7418469)
Calm down. Calm down. It was basically Carl's piss poor planning. They had two free agents one was Neil, one was Derrick Thomas. They kept Thomas and Neil pursued the big payday. As a fan I hate where he went, but he got paid.

That being said I don't know how much Carl offered him, but with his track record it was probably a scratched out lottery ticket and $50.

the rumor is he took less cash to go to denver. **** that bastard.

gblowfish 02-09-2011 12:42 PM

Neil went to Denver to stick it to the Chiefs.
Plain and simple.

That "Now I get to play for the good guys" comment he told Horseface should ban him from Arrowhead for life.

He should NEVER have been put in the team HOF. He doesn't belong there, nor does Jack Steadman. Steadman was Lamar's room mate at SMU, and ran the team into the ground for 20 years after Stram left. He ran the Chiefs and Worlds of Fun, at the same time, and in exactly the same manner. Both as light, mindless entertainment. He was the ultimate Nepotism/Peter Principle in action. Yeah, he worked there a long time, and he was the GM when Arrowhead was built, but so what? How many Superbowls did he win? Zip. How many playoff games did he win? Zip. How come the Chiefs don't measure success by what they've won? Everybody else does. Perhaps that's why they haven't sniffed the Superbowl in more than 40 years.

I'm grumpy today. And I despise Neil Smith. Whoever brought his name up should be slapped.

luv 02-12-2011 06:43 PM

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Not too many people were there, but, if you look to the right of Neil, you can see a fellow Planeteer. That would be Direckshun.

KCinNY 02-12-2011 07:12 PM

F *** "Bronco" Neil Smith!!!!!!!!

Take your illiterate ass back to Denver and beg Elway to be in their ring of fame you dickless reerun.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7426416)
Not too many people were there, but, if you look to the right of Neil, you can see a fellow Planeteer. That would be Direckshun.

You need to wash and burn that shirt.

KCScott 02-12-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7418167)
NS is a POS.... he came in the bar I worked at a few times this past summer.

Multiple no tips on big tabs. Our waitresses wanted to kill him.


He is a POS - He lived out by me in Blue Springs, till he walked away from his 1.2M house which sold at auction last year for about 460K.

I've had 3 interactions with the guy over the years and all 3 times he was a total douchebag each time.

The first was on a flight to New Orleans back in his playing days. He came on board in a dashiki with the matching hat. He was sitting in first and I was in the first row of coach. He was talking on his cell phone when the flight attendent told him he'd need to turn it off as we were getting ready to pull away from the gate. He dropped the "do you know who I am?" line on her and kept right on going for a few more seconds before finally finishing his call.

The second was at the annual easter egg hunt they have in Blue Springs. My two youngest sons were hunting eggs and my oldest (he was 12 or so at the time and a huge Chiefs fan) recognozed Smith and said he wanted to say hi to him. We walked over towards him and he puts his hand up before we're within 10' and says - "uh uh, I'm with my family" - My son was just going to say hi, no autographs- just wanted to hello to a Chief. In fairness, Smith was actually there with his family - so at least he wasn't lying.

The last time was a couple years ago at Dick's Sporting Goods in Independence. He was there with his teen age son (think it was his son anyway). As usual Dick's only had one kid working back there and about 5 customers (including me) waiting when he comes in. A few minutes later Neil has a shoe and as the kid is walking out carrying two boxes for other customers blocks him and says he needs a pair to try on. The kid drops the boxes on a bench and proceeds to go looking for Neil. He turns around and notices several of us looking at this and gives a shit eating look like "what you gonna do?" at everybody.

It's no surprise everything he's done from arena football to that cajun place he owned in JoCo has been a failure.

**** him.

milkman 02-13-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7419321)
Neil went to Denver to stick it to the Chiefs.
Plain and simple.

That "Now I get to play for the good guys" comment he told Horseface should ban him from Arrowhead for life.

He should NEVER have been put in the team HOF. He doesn't belong there, nor does Jack Steadman. Steadman was Lamar's room mate at SMU, and ran the team into the ground for 20 years after Stram left. He ran the Chiefs and Worlds of Fun, at the same time, and in exactly the same manner. Both as light, mindless entertainment. He was the ultimate Nepotism/Peter Principle in action. Yeah, he worked there a long time, and he was the GM when Arrowhead was built, but so what? How many Superbowls did he win? Zip. How many playoff games did he win? Zip. How come the Chiefs don't measure success by what they've won? Everybody else does. Perhaps that's why they haven't sniffed the Superbowl in more than 40 years.

I'm grumpy today. And I despise Neil Smith. Whoever brought his name up should be slapped.

Steadman was the GM when the Chiefs went to SB I and IV.

He also was resposnsible for drafting most of the core group that Marty took to the playoffs in the early-mid nineties.

Where Steadman failed was in finding the right coach, though I still believe that he did find the coach to have success with in Marv Levy, who got a raw deal, getting fired after the a strike shortened season in '82.

gblowfish 02-13-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7427025)
Steadman was the GM when the Chiefs went to SB I and IV.

He also was resposnsible for drafting most of the core group that Marty took to the playoffs in the early-mid nineties.

Where Steadman failed was in finding the right coach, though I still believe that he did find the coach to have success with in Marv Levy, who got a raw deal, getting fired after the a strike shortened season in '82.

Steadman was a boob as an NFL GM. He was at the helm when they drafted Blackledge instead of Kelly or Marino. Nuff said there.

Super Bow I and IV were Hark Stram's baby. He made the personnel decisions. Steadman didn't get involved in the draft room until after Stram was fired. And guess who fired Stram? Guess who fired Levy?

King Carl was the GM, not Steadman, when Marty was drafting. It was King Carl who hired Marty. Steadman had been moved to a BS position that was pretty much ceremonial by that point. He actually volunteered to get out of the football side when King Carl came in, because he was such a piss poor football talent evaluator.

There's only three things Steadman has going for him.

1) He was Lamar Hunt's college room mate. That's how he got a job with the Chiefs.
2) He oversaw the original Arrowhead stadium construction.
3) He worked there for a long time -but big deal. So have a lot of the janitors at Arrowhead.

You have to put a lot of the 40 years of Super Bowl Chase Failure on Steadman. He was at the helm for a big chunk of that time. He also ran Worlds of Fun and the Chiefs at the same time for many of those years. I can make a pretty good argument that he ran both businesses exactly the same -for profit, and to generate mild entertainment value.

I'm glad his hand is off the wheel now. And the only reason he's in the Chiefs HOF is because he was Lamar's best buddy. Nepotism at its finest.

gblowfish 02-13-2011 09:46 AM

Oh, and I forgot to mention. If you see the documentary on "Full Color Football" -the story of the AFL- check out the letter Steadman sent to Abner Haynes.

Haynes was part of a group of black players that wanted the 1965 AFL All Star Game moved out of New Orleans, because of all the segregated hotels and restaurants there. The game was eventually moved to Houston. It took a lot of balls for the black players to stand up for their rights. Very gutsy, and of course, they were morally right.

Right afterwards, Steadman wrote Haynes a letter (an official letter from the Chiefs front office) chastising him for being an activist, told him to shut up and just play football, and promptly traded him to Denver. Haynes was their star player, much like Charles is our star player now.

So I could make a convincing argument that Steadman was a 1960's racist too. I don't think he still thinks that way, but I hope he regrets writing that letter.

milkman 02-13-2011 09:54 AM

I'm not saying that Steadman was a great GM, but I would argue, strongly, that he was a far better talent evaluator than Carl.

Players drafted by Steadman that made up the core group that Marty turned into playoff pretenders.



Dave Lutz
Albert Lewis
Bill Maas
John Alt
Kevin Ross
Dino Hackett
Christian Okoye
Neil Smith
Kevin Porter

This was just a quick cursery glance.
probably a couple that I missed.

He clearly needed to be replaced, but he wasn't quite the boob you make him out to be.

gblowfish 02-13-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7427140)
I'm not saying that Steadman was a great GM, but I would argue, strongly, that he was a far better talent evaluator than Carl.

Players drafted by Steadman that made up the core group that Marty turned into playoff pretenders.



Dave Lutz
Albert Lewis
Bill Maas
John Alt
Kevin Ross
Dino Hackett
Christian Okoye
Neil Smith
Kevin Porter

This was just a quick cursery glance.
probably a couple that I missed.

He clearly needed to be replaced, but he wasn't quite the boob you make him out to be.

How many of those players are in the Pro Football HOF -the measuring stick for greatness?

Yeah....

King Carl had DT.

Let's look at Steadman's first round draft pick record. Let's assume he's at the helm from the time Stram was fired (1974) to the time King Carl came in (1989):

Here's the first pick the Chiefs made each of those years, and whether they became quality NFL players worthy of a first round pick or not:

1974- Woody Green Miss
1975-Elmore Stephens Miss
1976- Rod Walters Miss
1977-Gary Green Hit
1978-Art Still Hit
1979-Mike Bell Hit
1980-Brad Budde Miss
1981-Willie Scott Miss
1982-Anthony Hancock Miss
1983-Todd Blackledge Miss
1984-Bill Maas Hit
1985-Ethan Horton Miss
1986-Brian Jozwiak Miss
1987-Paul Palmer Miss
1988- Neil Smith Hit

15 1st Round Picks:
5 Hit
10 miss

So 2/3rds of the time, his first round picks were a bust.

And how many years was Steadman in charge with no Super Bowls?

That's the elephant in the room, dude.

King Carl failed at that too.

So bring on our next eligible bachelor, Scott Pioli, come on down!

milkman 02-13-2011 10:13 AM

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How many of those players are in the Pro Football HOF -the measuring stick for greatness?

I strongly disagree with this.

Tommy Nobis was as good, if not better than Ray Nitschi.
John Hadl was better than Joe Namath and Len Dawson.

Not to mention Otis Taylor vs. Lynn Swan.

The teams you play for have as much to do with getting into the HoF as individual greatness.

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gblowfish 02-13-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7427177)
I strongly disagree with this.

Tommy Nobis was as good, if not better than Ray Nitschi.
John Hadl was better than Joe Namath and Len Dawson.

Not to mention Otis Taylor vs. Lynn Swan.

The teams you play for have as much to do with getting into the HoF as individual greatness.

The harsh reality is, a player's career is measured by how much they contribute to winning championships. Milkie, you ought to go work for the Chiefs. They don't seem to measure greatness by winning either.

Nitschke was a champion, as was Namath and Dawson.
Taylor and Swann were both Champions, but Swann more so.

milkman 02-13-2011 10:21 AM

The draft is a crap shoot, George.

If you hit on 33% of your 1st round picks, then you are hitting at just about the average.

milkman 02-13-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7427185)
The harsh reality is, a player's career is measured by how much they contribute to winning championships. Milkie, you ought to go work for the Chiefs. They don't seem to measure greatness by winning either.

Nitschke was a champion, as was Namath and Dawson.
Taylor and Swann were both Champions, but Swann more so.

You are making an entirely different argument.

Are you telling me that Albert Lewis wasn't a great player?

How about Deron Cherry?

I'm not going to rely on some arbitrary political voting process by a select few with an agenda to determine indiviual excellence.

Are you going to tell me that Chris Hanberger actually belongs in the HoF?

gblowfish 02-13-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7427194)
You are making an entirely different argument.

Are you telling me that Albert Lewis wasn't a great player?

How about Deron Cherry?

I'm not going to rely on some arbitrary political voting process by a select few with an agenda to determine indiviual excellence.

Are you going to tell me that Chris Hanberger actually belongs in the HoF?

Albert Lewis and Deron Cherry were good players. So far, according to the jury of sportswriters who nominate players for the HOF, they were not among the greatest. Part of that may be because they didn't make enough of a difference to get their teams to a championship game. Lewis never made it with either the Chiefs or Raiders. Chris Hanburger played in the Super Bowl. He helped his team become NFC champions.

I guess we should tell Dawson, Bell, Lanier and the rest of the Canton Enshrined Chiefs that being chosen for the HOF really means squat. It's all just politics.

milkman 02-13-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7427219)
Albert Lewis and Deron Cherry were good players. So far, according to the jury of sportswriters who nominate players for the HOF, they were not among the greatest. Part of that may be because they didn't make enough of a difference to get their teams to a championship game. Lewis never made it with either the Chiefs or Raiders. Chris Hanburger played in the Super Bowl. He helped his team become NFC champions.

I guess we should tell Dawson, Bell, Lanier and the rest of the Canton Enshrined Chiefs that being chosen for the HOF really means squat. It's all just politics.

Quite frankly, I don't believe that Dawson does belong in the HoF.

He was a very good QB, but as I said earlier, he wasn't as good as John Hadl.

He, and the Chiefs, won the SB because of a great defense that should be considered among the top 5 all time.

I don't need others to tell me when a player is great.

I can see it with my own eyes.

The Hall can be used as a measuring stick, but it should not be the only measuring stick.

gblowfish 02-13-2011 10:49 AM

Dawson belongs. He was an essential figure in the success of the AFL. And when he retired, was among the all time leaders in many offensive QB categories including total yardage and completion percentage. The league going up to a 16-game season has skewed many of the passing stats from years past. But if you judge a player in the time that he played, Dawson was among the best. So was Otis Taylor. His exclusion from the HOF is a crime. They'll probably go Buck O'Neil on him and elect him after he dies.

But let's go back to the original reason for this thread.

Neil Smith is a traitorous, Bronco Scumbag.

Can we at least agree on that?

milkman 02-13-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7427237)
Dawson belongs. He was an essential figure in the success of the AFL. And when he retired, was among the all time leaders in many offensive QB categories including total yardage and completion percentage. The league going up to a 16-game season has skewed many of the passing stats from years past. But if you judge a player in the time that he played, Dawson was among the best. So was Otis Taylor. His exclusion from the HOF is a crime. They'll probably go Buck O'Neil on him and elect him after he dies.

But let's go back to the original reason for this thread.

Neil Smith is a traitorous, Bronco Scumbag.

Can we at least agree on that?

I respect your knowledge George, and have enjoyed the debate, and yes, we can agree that Smith is a traitorous, Donkey scumbag.

Brock 02-13-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7427229)
Quite frankly, I don't believe that Dawson does belong in the HoF.

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