Chiefs moving up ???????
 

WesBunting Wesley Bunting
by ArrowheadPride
@ @OsCz I don't think the #Redskins move up...not enough amo...hearing they could move down to the #Rams or #Chiefs pick #NFLDRAFT

idiot

LMAO

Reading fail.

:spock:

I would the whole fail.

Okay, I'm lost. I read that as the Skins could trade with the Chiefs. Isn't that moving up?

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That's what I got out of it too. Guess I can't read either.

How is this a reading fail? If the Redskins move DOWN to our pick, guess what that means? We move UP! Dumb ****s.

Yay! I'm smart!

It's just funny that the first 4 people in the thread didn't read it correctly LMAO

Wait... So we're giving up our first rounder?

Who, exactly, would Pioli be moving up to get?

If the Chiefs were to move up and you didn't know who they were you would never guess it was them.

Pioli might do that.
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Unless we were referring to chiefsnorth. Which this we may have been.

How?
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Yes, for the right to trade down.

Julio Jones is the only logical one that comes to mind

I would rather trade our first this year for the a team like the Bills or Bengals moving up to get their QB and their first next year. And hope they bomb the year

Julio.

Julio Jones.

After he played '10 with a broken hand and ran the combine with a broken foot, Haley probably had to seek medical attention for the boner he popped.

If the Chiefs manage to trade up and draft Jones, no one will have a ****ing clue about Pioli's draft strategy for the '12 draft.

Then my fault, but that wasn't the case for all 4.

What would that take? Our 1st, 2nd, and a 2nd next year perhaps?

We don't have a clue about Pioli's thinking this year either. or last year, or the year before.

Most Likely.

****, I'm having crazy protein farts right now.

I won't care about his strategy for '12.

Mostly because the blood will have left my brain to fuel the co-erection I will have if that pick is made.

I wonder under what circumstances would the draft have to play out in order for him to be there at 10-13? Anyone care to mock?

I'd love to grab Julio Jones, but to trade up and part with picks next year too for anything other than a QB is pretty tarded.

Genoymx has a product called Gut Health that will take care of that little problem.

I think the odds of him being there are even lower than the odds of us making a move up, which is not far north of zero.

We're stuck with Cassel. This regime will live and die with him. Time to just let it go. Might as well start loading up on Pro Bowl talent to help with his mediocrity.

+1

ROFL
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I think so to. So if not Julio then who?

That would assume we will actually have a draft next year....

Won't be hard to figure out, he won't have a R1 or R2 pick to use if he trades up for Jones.

gross. but :thumb:

Even better! We give them a 2nd next year they never use.

That has nothing to do with Cassel, everything to do with the position. You might convince me if we ran a 4-3 and needed a RDE and there was a dominant franchise caliber player--maybe I'd do it for that position too...

To give up next year's 1st, perhaps.

But if you can get it for this year's 1st and 3rd, plus next year's 2nd, it's something you'd have to consider. There's not going to be a great QB candidate that slips to us in this year's draft, IMO. I like Locker and Kaepernick, but they're pretty damn risky either way and both of them would probably have a round worse grades most seasons.

Let's say you can get Jones this season and keep your first for next. You're now sitting in no worse a position to get a similarly talented QB in the 2012 draft.

Generally speaking I'm with you re: the value of the QB. But this draft just isn't shaping up as a good one to make a reach or a bold move at the QB position.

I dont think so.

AZ would be the wild card in all this. If they take AJ, then yeah, slim chance of him falling. But if they take a QB or defender, then AJ would fall to Cleavland and Julio could fall all the way down to 10 at least.

Nah, it won't get done at that price.

I can't imagine Pioli would give up this season's 1st and next season's 1st day for the right to move up 11 spots. That's way too steep.

Unless the Rams move up to take him. I don't see any way he gets past them, he's a perfect pick there.

You have to factor in that the Redskins are known for being reeruned with their picks...


just sayin...

I agree. My worry would be the Rams moving up if Julio fell past the Browns.

Next year the QB's look to be pretty stout. This *should be Cassel's make or break year, so drafting a stud WR makes sense. However, I'd rather pick up more picks for next year so we have the ammo to move around and grab Foles or make a trade that lucks us into Andrew Luck next year.

Since there's not anyone I see as a can't miss, or that will make our team way better, I'd much rather trade back and pick up a 2nd #1 next year than trade up, even for Julio Jones.

What if both WR's fell to Cleavland and the browns took Jones instead of Green? Would you still be down to trade up for Green?

I thought the rumor is that we're moving up to Washington's spot at 6?

They aren't moving 15 spots back for anything less than 2 1sts.

They, or anyone else would be reeruned to do that.

Maybe we can trade them Cassel? :evil:

YES YES YES AND ANOTHER YES!
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Washington drafts 10th.

I'm sold.

This.

Moreso.

Washington must think they can move back and still get the QB they want. So this would probably mean Shanny prefers Ponder to Locker?

****, my mistake. I had Cleveland and Washington swapped.

:facepalm:

Uh Washingtons first pick is at 10 according to the ticker on nfl.com

Damn, forgot about Cinci. Yeah, we're ****ed.

He had the Red and Brown thing mixed up.

Why would the Bengals **** us?

They never make the right decision.

There's a period/anal joke to be made here but damned if I'm not funny enough to pull it off...

Everyone is mocking them for a WR.

Which I think would be beyond stupid. But hey, it's the Bengals.

Do a mock draft yourself on ESPN.

I think it's very reasonable and probable that Jones will be there at 10.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/features/draftmachine/

The bungals will take a qb. On their roster they have a total of 4 games played and zero started.

Everyone seems to be mocking a WR to Cleveland as well, personally I don't think either of them go that route.

I'm trying to figure out why the **** Washington would want to move back that far. They'd be better off taking Jones at 10, and trading back into the 1st or the QB.

Unless they are completely reeruned and don't have Jones or Green on their Top 10. They need a WR desperately.

When Carolina passes on Newton, this whole thing is going to blow up.

I think cinci takes whatever QB isn't taken at 1. Most likely Gabbert. That leaves Cleveland to take AJ Green.

I seriously think carolina takes dareus or possibly peterson. (A cb #1 overall? Wtf right?)

I have 2 buddies who are die hard Browns fans, and they're both hoping they don't go WR. They want Fairly, Darius, Peterson, Miller or Quinn.

Meh.

You could have Jones and Locker - a few draft picks

OR

You could have Locker and Baldwin + a few draft picks.

Baldwin reminds me of Brandon Marshall. Not sure if that's true or not, but if it is, I'd imagine that Baldwin may be on The Rat's radar.

Quinn should be the pick, IMO.

Peterson and Miller should be off the board by then.

I'll take the option with the elite WR every time.

I know I won't be shocked if they take Von Miller.

I would be HIGHLY suprised if all the "experts" didn'thave that first pick nailed down 24 hours before the draft and they all say Newton.

If Carolina passes on Newton you know Chan is gonna be all over him.

No one saw Mario Williams going #1 overall either, until JUST before the draft.

It was the day before the draft when all that went down with him, Young, and Bush.

If there was a possibility of anyone else we would be hearing something from Kiper or Shefter by now. This isn't Nick "Assclown" Athan reporting he is going number 1.

I'm pretty sure it was late Friday night before a Saturday morning draft.

And everyone was shocked.

Because of the lockout issues, teams can't negotiate with players, which means if Carolina was thinking of going a different direction, it's likely no one would know about it.

Agents leak stuff like this, not teams.

Not saying it's going to happen, but just because Scheffter hasn't reported it, doesn't mean it's not possible.

Right. It was the day before the draft, but rumors were still surfacing about them negotiating the best deal with the 3 for a bit, I just don't think anyone believed it.

Despite the lockout, I'm not sold there isn't some behind the scenes communications between teams and these agents/players being drafted and I'm sure these guys have sources within the teams as well. There just isn't any smoke right now to be a fire.

You do know that all these sports writers don't actually draft anyone yes?