Ihop beat down?
 

Justified or not? I dont think so. (if its a repost gfys)

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Seems the cop struck 1st. However, I cant tell what may have provoked him before the video.

Entirely justified.

She's got her hands on the cop trying to arrest someone else. In other words, physically interfering with an arrest. Not very bright.

What happened in the minute prior to that video being turned on?

I guess she learned that she shouldn't slap a cop in the face.

That dude is way too fat to be a cop.

So you think that 300lb man winding up on a 100lb woman, while her arms were being held by another cop, was justified? Thats surprising coming from you.

From what I can see in this video, I don't think the cop did anything wrong. She was clearly interfering when she didn't need to.

You take woman with drunken reerun strength, taking 3 or 4 good swipes at you while you are trying to arrest someone else. She's lucky he didn't really beat her ass. She had it coming.

He didn't "wind up on her" right away. The first time he engages her, it's more of a push to the face. She then smacks him in the face. Then he "winds up on her."

Since we can't see what led up to it, I have to go with what's there. That's a clear case of police brutality.

I don't see the "brutality" here. She was moving in an aggressive manner, he hit her once to gain the advantage and then after that was pretty gentle given her continued resistance.

He lost his cool and decked her in the mouth. Guess that slap to his face must've stung the poor little fella.

Those cops handled that horribly. If that dude was under arrest. They should have instructed the woman to move and then extract the guy from the booth.

What makes people think they can touch cops, especially when they are in the process of restraining someone else?

That looks like what they were trying to do. She was trying to prevent it.

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This.

The first time he slapped her was out of frustration.

She retaliated because she felt she was hit unjustly.

He then punches her out of anger.

Another case in which the cop was out of line, but she shouldn't have provoked it.

There was no reason for her to be up in the mix.

"Instructed the woman to move"? The woman who was swinging at him? Looked to me like it was already past the point of instructing.

Why was the cop leaning over the table? If she was actually trying to stop them, then she shouldve been in cuffs long before any of that happened.

He was leaning over the table to try to arrest the other person. That's what it looks like.

Read #20

Then that cop is a ****ing moron.

**** her, she ran into the street and got hit by a car, so ****in what.

Why is the cop leaning over the table?

You mean, other than trying to detain the person in gray sitting opposite the woman?

You.

Don't.

Put.

Your.

Hands.

On.

A.

Cop.

Period.

ESPECIALLY when said cop is trying to detain someone else.

We don't see what transpired before this.

The first time he slapped her was after she was already aggressively interfering with them. She had her hands on the cop well before he did anything. Pretty clear from the video.

I'm all for eliminating unnecessary police brutality. But that dumb woman got what she deserved here.

Did you guys notice how quickly her right arm went behind her back once he got the cuffs on her left wrist? I suspect that this wasn't her first run-in with law enforcement.

So we just need to get McCluster into the Police Academy.

Another person without common sense.

If you don't want to be put in jail or taken down by the police, let them do their job, and stay out of the way. If your dumbass wants to be put in jail, then interfere and watch your ass be taken down along with the original criminal.

I'm not defending the woman. She should not have been right there if they were trying to make an arrest. The officers failed to take control of the situation.

Pretty much.

It never should have escalated to that level, anyway.

I read #20. It's irrelevant. We can only go by what we see in the video. And in the video, she interferes with the police before they touch her. It doesn't matter when they remove her. Saying they should have done it sooner doesn't change the fact that she deserved the response she provoked.

Seems like they controlled it rather well.

And, she was apparently drunk and didn't know that he was a cop.

LMAO

It's the easiest shit in the world to just not get arrested. I'm still amazed at how many dunces can't seem to pull it off.

Piss off, the adults are talking.

I'm really waffling over what I feel about this video.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/atto...ve-926236.html

The four women who were part of a scuffle with an off-duty Atlanta police officer had barely sat down at a table at the Buckhead IHOP when the confrontation started, one of them said.

“It was just four girls, just a regular night out, going to get something to eat,” Cynthia Freeman said.

Freeman said she noticed two guys dressed as characters from the Star Wars trilogy.

“Wow, they got the helmet … they’ve got everything, what are you guys doing?” Freeman said she asked early that morning.

Minutes later, she said a man in a blue shirt came over to their table.

“He tells me, shut up, be quiet, you need to leave,” an emotional Freeman said.

The incident was captured on video, the Atlanta Police Department confirmed. The video also shows the officer punching another woman, Ashley Leavell. Freeman said she had never met Leavell before the incident and added that she had been dining at another table.

“She was trying to get the officer to back off,” Freeman said.

Freeman was among four arrested in the 4 a.m. Saturday incident, according to Atlanta attorney Bobby Aniekwu. He told the AJC he is representing three of the women in what he considers a case of "excessive force."

Cynthia Freeman is one of Aniekwu's clients. He said she is charged with obstruction of justice, criminal trespass and simple battery.

Leavell was charged with obstruction, public drunkeness and simple battery.

Freeman spoke to the AJC Wednesday at Aniekwu's office in downtown Atlanta. She said she did not realize the man who approached her table was a police officer.

“When we walked in, I didn’t pay anybody no attention. I just sat down,” she said.

“I looked at his face, I didn’t look at what he had on or anything because everything happened so fast,” Freeman said. “I didn’t know what he was until he pulled out those cuffs.” Freeman said the officer pulled on her hair to the point that some of it came out.

Her friend, Roberta Caban, said the officer never identified himself before the incident.

It is not yet known if the women will sue.

Aniekwu said he has to review a copy of the police report, which he hasn’t yet received.

“As I sit here today, there's a great likelihood we will start some litigation,” he said.

What started the melee is unclear. Freeman said she and her friends were seated at the first table near the front door of the IHOP. She was speaking to her friends about two nearby restaurant patrons who were dressed like characters -- Boba Fett and a Storm Trooper -- from the Star Wars films before the off-duty APD officer approached.

“He just attacked me,” Freeman said, “And I said, ‘What did I do? What did I do? I didn’t do anything.”

“I’m sitting with my friends, and I’m talking to the Darth Vadar guys, just on a casual conversation ... and then he just out of nowhere came to me, out of all of the people, came to me,” she said later.

“I didn’t touch this man, never, not once,” she said. “I didn’t pay him any attention what he had on. I was just looking at his face because he was yelling.”

According to several videos posted on YouTube.com, the officer, whose name police have not provided, shouted at a woman sitting in the corner of a booth near the door and then he lunged at her. A woman wearing a black dress appeared to be trying to separate the officer and her friend when the officer slapped her. The woman in the black dress hit him back, and he punched her in the face.

A second officer came up just as the struggle began. He got involved when it became physical between the first cop and the woman in the black dress, apparently trying to separate them. The first officer pulled the woman away from the table, threw her onto the floor and laid on top of her while trying to get handcuffs on one wrist. The second wrist was cuffed when she turned over on her stomach.

Within moments, a female officer appeared to hold back the crowd while the woman in the black dress, shoeless, was led out of the restaurant.

The officer involved in the incident has been placed on administrative duty pending the outcome of an investigation, an Atlanta police spokesman said.

“The officer involved in the arrest and confrontation with a patron at the IHOP in Buckhead has been placed on administrative duty pending the outcome of an investigation by the department’s Office of Professional Standards. Use of force by police officers is a matter the department takes seriously, and the OPS investigation will determine if the officer acted within established guidelines. Chief Turner has pledged to have the OPS investigation concluded in 10 business days.”

Caban said the officer went overboard.

"I felt so bad for her, for anybody to go through that," Caban told Channel 2 Action News.

"No one would tell us why we were arrested, no one would tell us anything," she added. "And we wind up spending over 24 hours in jail."

Looks like they took control to me.

Someone interfered with them doing their job, and they removed the interference.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of people acting like dumbasses and then crying "police brutality."

Sit the **** down, shut the **** up, let the police do their job, and you don't get punched in the ****ing face and spend the night in jail.

Pretty ****ing simple.

OTW nails this one.

Even most policemen wouldn't try to use this claim as a justification. A woman laying restraining hands on a police officer when the officer is tugging on the neckline of a person stuck in a seat is NOT justification for the officer hauling off on the woman.

If that officer can't remove those hands without such violence, he's not competent, and he needs to be looking for a new line of work.

That has nothing to do with it.

My point is, if they were trying to arrest the other person, why was that woman right there interfering? Why was she not removed before hand?

People just need to realize that bad things happen when you put your hands on cops.

Either A:
You get arrested. Charged with assaulting an officer, etc.

or B:
The cop oversteps his bounds and goes ape shit on you and probably will get away with it... Oh and you still get charged with assaulting an officer.

What's to be learned? It's that whether or not it's wright or wrong is almost a moot point.

Do you want a ton of trouble on your hands? If yes? Then go ahead and put your hands on a cop.

Exactly.

You put your hands on a cop, that's a red line.

Hitting her excessively after that would be a bit too much but what do ya know? Maybe he wanted to be on top of a woman and handcuff her?

This. Why can't people understand that?

something's in the maple syrup...just sayin.
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Cops aren't a special class of people when it comes to assault and battery, in terms of what actions constitute the crime. You're treating them as if they are.

And right or wrong is not only not moot, it's the only point that matters.

Here's another angle of the incident of that dumb fuggin bitch. She's trying to video and shove the cop. LMFAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9shJZ...eature=related

Because the majority of people lack common sense. ****in Thomas Paine man. He was the shit.

I'd hit it

I'm not disputing this. Interfere with law enforcement and you get what you get, I'm saying it couldve been handled better.

the real question is, why didn't the videography take a few steps and catch the beaver show while her dress was over her head....

It's a good thing that he did that to a woman, because otherwise it would be wrong.

Interesting. And I still have the same opinion...Except now I know the guy in the gray costume is a reerun.

Don't try and slap a cop.

So, not only did she interfere, she wasn't even originally sitting at the table?

She didn't know these people and got involved?

The cops should be glad she was white, otherwise the whole city of Atlanta would be protesting around the clock.

No way that was Atlanta. Waaay too many white people. And the Mexicans didn't even look that Mexican. WTFBP? Where's the ****ing black people dammit?

Women want to be treated like men...so enjoy it, bitches.

This whole thing never happens if the original woman in grey complies with the cop instead of resisting.

No, they want to be PAID like men, but do the work of women. Isn't that how it goes? :D

Yep. That simple. I don't understand why people always feel the need to resist the police. Guess what? In this situation if the woman actually feels that she is being treated inappropriately by the police, all she has to do is comply at that time, and later take care of it in front of a judge. But she wanted to be a dumbass instead.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpps/new...26-es_12936514

It's in the Buckhead area, which is like Georgetown. A bunch of bars and restaurants, college students and drunks.

And Boba Fett.

Oh I believe it. I was just messin.

Exactly.

If I'm eating a meal, minding my own business and a cop tells me to come with him, I'm going to, and let my lawyer deal with it.

I'm not making the matter worse by pulling the "I didn't do anything" card and resisting.

While true, this does not excuse the officer's subsequent actions. He should not have responded as he did to the 3rd woman. Excessive force is police brutality. Unfortunately, the likely outcome is that the PD will form ranks and the cop will be cleared. That's the S.O.P..

What in the world is it excessive when responding in kind?

I don't see how he used excessive force. He slapped her to get her to back off, and she responded by wailing on him like he was a baby killer. Then he delivered a punch to get her to stop that shit. Then he and the other officer physically restrained her in order to cuff her.

A slap and a punch, which were both responses to HER violent actions, counts as excessive force? Not in my opinion.

Excessive force = beating the shit out of someone and throwing multiple punches

No personal offense, but you really need to learn more about law enforcement.

After watching it again, my realization is affirmed, women are ****ing crazy and emotional. How in their right mind would hit a cop?

Answer:
A woman.

No but seriously, she hit a cop in the face, she's lucky he didn't tase her. I don't see what the issue is.

Those of you taking issue with this, go find a police officer in the process of arresting someone and slap him or her in the face. Then report back to us what happens.

None taken and, given that I've got family/friends in both the civilian and military police, I figure I'm fine with the amount of knowledge that I have. There was no need for the escalation of force there. Hell, to begin with, the officer should have removed the woman in the middle before going after the one he did. The cop was incompetent from the start.

He was not responding in kind.

IYO, what should he have done in this situation based on what we know?

Cleared the middle woman from the table first, or at least wait for the other officer to be in position. There were multiple people in the booth, and the cop let himself get into a 1-on-3 situation instead of getting another officer in there right away. There were enough officers there to properly control the situation. The officer acted incompetently. Hauling off on the 3rd woman was not his only screw up.

Also, those going with the "hands on the cop" nonsense should take note that there were two women with hands on the cop. Apparently, the cop should have also beat the shit out of the one touching his back.

Sure he was. He punched her in the face after she smacked him in the face.