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Rain Man 07-01-2011 04:41 PM

Gladiator Round 1, Match 4: tooge vs. austinchief
 
tooge:

high-powered squirtgun filled with ammonia

No backup knife.

Prep time: 31 seconds


austinchief:

A batman-esque Penguin umbrella that shoots out sleep gas, If you can get within three feet.

Backup bowie knife

Prep time: 97 seconds


Venue:

Classic downtown big-city street

Starting distance: 1,931 feet

The Franchise 07-01-2011 04:43 PM

ROFL

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-01-2011 04:45 PM

A squirtgun full of pee vs sleeping gas and a big ass knife?

Damn, I thought talastan got screwed

We're not kissing up to the management are we?

AustinChief 07-01-2011 04:46 PM

WOW.. that is one heck of a starting distance!

I am gonna go with me here... what the hell is a squirt gun with ammonia gonna do to me??? Since I'm not a fish, I assume he can squirt me all he wants and it'll just annoy me until I get close enough to use my sleeping gas/knife combo.

RealSNR 07-01-2011 04:46 PM

1,931 feet?

As far as I'm concerned, even minutes' worth of prep time difference wouldn't matter in this fight.

I think this is a fight that takes for ****ing ever. AustinChief's bowie knife will be the deciding factor, and will be the killing weapon.

007 07-01-2011 04:47 PM

tooge will be running for his life with no backup weapon.

007 07-01-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7725818)
WOW.. that is one heck of a starting distance!

I am gonna go with me here... what the hell is a squirt gun with ammonia gonna do to me??? Since I'm not a fish, I assume he can squirt me all he wants and it'll just annoy me until I get close enough to use my sleeping gas/knife combo.

You are a bigger man than that. You won't even need the sleep gas.

Rain Man 07-01-2011 04:50 PM

This is a really interesting one, and funny that it's all chemical warfare.

So they're going to be stalking each other for a while. tooge is going to find the biggest open area he can and just wait. He's going to have nail austinchief in the face and then steal austin's equipment while he's incapacitated. But he's got the range to do it.

Austinchief is going to have to gut it up and know that he's going to get a face full of ammonia, and hope he can get to tooge blind in those last 25 feet or so. I'm wondering if austin should even hide his knife or if he should be swinging it madly while he waits for a chance to gas tooge.

I'm really torn here. I don't see austinchief being able to get within range, but it'll be risky for tooge to close in. Maybe if I'm tooge I try to blind austin and then I use other nearby materials to try to knock him out without getting close. What stuff can you throw that is on a normal downtown street and that's big enough to knock a guy out?

AustinChief 07-01-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7725820)
1,931 feet?

As far as I'm concerned, even minutes' worth of prep time difference wouldn't matter in this fight.

I think this is a fight that takes for ****ing ever. AustinChief's bowie knife will be the deciding factor, and will be the killing weapon.

Well I don't think "forever".. if we assume Tooge isn't running away nor advancing.. I could cover 2000 ft in under 5 minutes easy. Even carrying a knife and umbrella. Although if we assume Tooge is running away, you are correct, this fight could last all day.

But Tooge, you'll have to sleep sometime...

Pants 07-01-2011 04:52 PM

Doesn't ammonia act like acid since it's on the opposite spectrum of the pH scale? If so, it could be a bad day for ol' Kyle. I could be way wrong, though, so please forgive me. I'm, withholding my vote for now.

Pants 07-01-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7725830)
This is a really interesting one, and funny that it's all chemical warfare.

So they're going to be stalking each other for a while. tooge is going to find the biggest open area he can and just wait. He's going to have nail austinchief in the face and then steal austin's equipment while he's incapacitated. But he's got the range to do it.

Austinchief is going to have to gut it up and know that he's going to get a face full of ammonia, and hope he can get to tooge blind in those last 25 feet or so. I'm wondering if austin should even hide his knife or if he should be swinging it madly while he waits for a chance to gas tooge.

I'm really torn here. I don't see austinchief being able to get within range, but it'll be risky for tooge to close in. Maybe if I'm tooge I try to blind austin and then I use other nearby materials to try to knock him out without getting close. What stuff can you throw that is on a normal downtown street and that's big enough to knock a guy out?

Can AsutinChief use his umbrella as a shield from the ammonia stream?

Rain Man 07-01-2011 04:54 PM

I think y'all are underestimating the power of a big super soaker full of ammonia. You catch a face full of that and you're going to be hurtin'. And austin has to get within three feet.

AustinChief 07-01-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7725830)
This is a really interesting one, and funny that it's all chemical warfare.

So they're going to be stalking each other for a while. tooge is going to find the biggest open area he can and just wait. He's going to have nail austinchief in the face and then steal austin's equipment while he's incapacitated. But he's got the range to do it.

Austinchief is going to have to gut it up and know that he's going to get a face full of ammonia, and hope he can get to tooge blind in those last 25 feet or so. I'm wondering if austin should even hide his knife or if he should be swinging it madly while he waits for a chance to gas tooge.

I'm really torn here. I don't see austinchief being able to get within range, but it'll be risky for tooge to close in. Maybe if I'm tooge I try to blind austin and then I use other nearby materials to try to knock him out without getting close. What stuff can you throw that is on a normal downtown street and that's big enough to knock a guy out?

Apricot Miatas?

Rain Man 07-01-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7725841)
Can AsutinChief use his umbrella as a shield from the ammonia stream?


:doh!:


That's brilliant. It's the perfect countermeasure. I hadn't thought of that.

Bugeater 07-01-2011 04:56 PM

Can you clarify "high powered"?

Bugeater 07-01-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7725843)
I think y'all are underestimating the power of a big super soaker full of ammonia. You catch a face full of that and you're going to be hurtin'. And austin has to get within three feet.

Oh, we're talking about a Super Soaker? Tooge is a goner.

AustinChief 07-01-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7725838)
Doesn't ammonia act like acid since it's on the opposite spectrum of the pH scale? If so, it could be a bad day for ol' Kyle. I could be way wrong, though, so please forgive me. I'm, withholding my vote for now.

It's harmful in its pure state... BUT it also boils at -30 or some such in that state... so it would actually be ammonia hydroxide. Depending on the strength, it would at BEST be mildly irritating to the skin and pretty irritating to the eyes.. IF I caught a big blast of it with eyes open. But that's what my umbrella is for!

Rain Man 07-01-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7725847)
Can you clarify "high powered"?


I'm assuming it's a commercial system that's relatively top end. Like one of those super soakers. I don't have much experience with them, but aren't they actually pretty accurate out to 30 or 40 feet or so? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Check this out: reviews of water guns. Let's assume it's one of these, which means accuracy to about 30 feet.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...s/toys/4272888

listopencil 07-01-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7725845)
:doh!:


That's brilliant. It's the perfect countermeasure. I hadn't thought of that.


That was the first thing that popped into my head. Bull rush with the umbrella, slice and dice.

Pants 07-01-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7725852)
It's harmful in its pure state... BUT it also boils at -30 or some such in that state... so it would actually be ammonia hydroxide. Depending on the strength, it would at BEST be mildly irritating to the skin and pretty irritating to the eyes.. IF I caught a big blast of it with eyes open. But that's what my umbrella is for!

OH LOL

Well in that case, you should probably be the winner of this.

P.S. These are like the best threads ever.

Rain Man 07-01-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 7725858)
That was the first thing that popped into my head. Bull rush with the umbrella, slice and dice.

Now, admittedly I don't know my batman. Can he open the umbrella without discharging the sleeping gas? Or does it have to remain closed until he attacks? That could make a difference.

listopencil 07-01-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7725866)
Now, admittedly I don't know my batman. Can he open the umbrella without discharging the sleeping gas? Or does it have to remain closed until he attacks? That could make a difference.


Yeah he can open it at will and make it do several different things, if it's the Penguin's umbrella.

alnorth 07-01-2011 05:39 PM

With the ammonia gun and the huge starting distance tooge could put up a valiant effort using a surprise attack, but I think I gotta go with the umbrella-shield, gas, and knife combo.

bevischief 07-01-2011 06:45 PM

AustinChief it is.

KurtCobain 07-01-2011 06:50 PM

I need Austin Chief and tooge to throw out some life experiences in fighting and combat before I vote. I screwed listo over.

Bump 07-01-2011 07:57 PM

tooge got screwed man

alnorth 07-01-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7726187)
tooge got screwed man

That's how this contest is gonna work sometimes, and that's fine. When I saw that I had a BB gun I assumed I was done in the very first match until I saw that my opponent got screwed over 6 ways to sunday.

MagicHef 07-01-2011 08:22 PM

For being a backup weapon, the knife is the deciding factor way too often, IMO. For example, if Tooge had the knife rather than AustinChief, I think he would win.

RealSNR 07-01-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 7726231)
For being a backup weapon, the knife is the deciding factor way too often, IMO. For example, if Tooge had the knife rather than AustinChief, I think he would win.

Definitely. People might forget that these are gladiator fights-- meaning you have to fight to the death. If you have a long-range weapon that can cause damage but not kill, you better be damn crafty. The knife is key, just to have it as a second option.

threebag 07-01-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7726187)
tooge got screwed man

I thought it was a Bowie knife not a flesh sword.

alnorth 07-01-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7726318)
Definitely. People might forget that these are gladiator fights-- meaning you have to fight to the death. If you have a long-range weapon that can cause damage but not kill, you better be damn crafty. The knife is key, just to have it as a second option.

perhaps in round 2, the knife can be replaced with some other less-deadly backup, like brass knuckles?

KurtCobain 07-02-2011 01:31 AM

I want everybody to know I'm massaging my calves right now in anticipation for my fight with dartgod tomorrow.

Hammock Parties 07-02-2011 05:09 AM

Tooge has the range advantage in this. A few squirts and Austin will drop his gasbrella screaming. Tooge beats him to death.

Rain Man 07-02-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7726423)
perhaps in round 2, the knife can be replaced with some other less-deadly backup, like brass knuckles?

We can certainly change it up if people think the bowie knife is too strong. However, the reason I included it was a concern that there were some pairs of weapons where a fatal blow would be hard to administer, so I wanted to add an increased probability that there'd at least be a fatal weapon on the field.

alnorth 07-02-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7726674)
We can certainly change it up if people think the bowie knife is too strong. However, the reason I included it was a concern that there were some pairs of weapons where a fatal blow would be hard to administer, so I wanted to add an increased probability that there'd at least be a fatal weapon on the field.

where the knife probably helps is when one guy draws a powerful weapon and the other guy has a comedy weapon.

However, if both fighters draw a non-lethal comedy weapon, I imagine people would start theorycrafting different ways one guy or the other would prevail with their silly weapon. Unless one guy has a backup knife, then we'd probably just go with that.

Rain Man 07-02-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7726693)
where the knife probably helps is when one guy draws a powerful weapon and the other guy has a comedy weapon.

However, if both fighters draw a non-lethal comedy weapon, I imagine people would start theorycrafting different ways one guy or the other would prevail with their silly weapon. Unless one guy has a backup knife, then we'd probably just go with that.

I'll stick with the bowie knife in Round 1 to be consistent, but maybe in the next round we can have a group of backup weapons from the Bowie knife down.

Rain Man 07-02-2011 02:13 PM

Calling the fight in favor of austinchief, despite tooge's best chemical warfare attempts.

tooge 07-06-2011 10:03 AM

Hey dammit, I just saw this. I'm gonna rip off your head and piss down your neck Austin Chief. I'm a terrible insomniac. you are screwed.

tooge 07-06-2011 10:08 AM

oops, too late, I'm dead. Dammit rain man. If there is a losers bracket, I need something better than a squirter pull of piss. C mon.

Steron 07-06-2011 10:11 AM

austinchief. The knife carries the day.


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