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tooge 07-20-2011 12:11 PM

Just had to let someone go. suckage!
 
Well, I just had to fire a gal that's been with us for about a year. she is a real sweetheart, but just didn't have the aptitude for the job. I hate that shit. Sometimes I wish I was a heartless bastard that didn't mind jacking up someones life. Carry on.

Pants 07-20-2011 12:12 PM

What did she do (didn't do) to deserve getting fired?

BigCatDaddy 07-20-2011 12:12 PM

Internet abuse?

4th and Long 07-20-2011 12:12 PM

What? You didn't fall on the knife instead? What kind of example are you setting? Talk about a losuy boss. Sheeesh. :p

ToxSocks 07-20-2011 12:13 PM

Did she even attempt to perform any sexual favors for you to keep her job? If not then she deserved to be let go.

BigCatDaddy 07-20-2011 12:13 PM

Failed the oral?

vailpass 07-20-2011 12:13 PM

If she wasn't good at what she was doing she likely knew that which would have made her unhappy.
You just freed her up to find something she likes and is good at; it's a hard thing to do but in the end you will both be better for it.

Pants 07-20-2011 12:14 PM

LIKE A BAUCE!

tooge 07-20-2011 12:18 PM

basically, someone dropped a resume by and had waaayy more experience. We had been trying to get her to "get it" for some time and it wasn't working. Interviewed the other person, likeed her, hired her, fired this gal. I'm over it now. That was so 15 minutes ago.

Skyy God 07-20-2011 12:18 PM

I've been having problems with a secretary for a while. Refuses to follow instructions, makes excuses why FUBAR'd situations aren't her fault, and generally falls short of taking responsibility for her files. She was giving me the silent treatment last week when, out of the blue, an unsolicited job applicant called in.

Attitude improved greatly after that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759052)
basically, someone dropped a resume by and had waaayy more experience. We had been trying to get her to "get it" for some time and it wasn't working. Interviewed the other person, likeed her, hired her, fired this gal. I'm over it now. That was so 15 minutes ago.

I wouldn't sweat it. Their job is to make yours easier, not the other way around.

Deberg_1990 07-20-2011 12:23 PM

Was she hot?

RockChalk 07-20-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759052)
basically, someone dropped a resume by and had waaayy more experience. We had been trying to get her to "get it" for some time and it wasn't working. Interviewed the other person, likeed her, hired her, fired this gal. I'm over it now. That was so 15 minutes ago.

Hygienist or Assistant?

Pants 07-20-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7759062)
Was she hot?

Obviously not.

gblowfish 07-20-2011 12:24 PM

I met one of my customers for the first time today. Around 40 and smoking hot. I said to myself "Oh, My!"

Rain Man 07-20-2011 12:25 PM

Firing people is the worst thing ever if they're trying and just don't get it. Even laying someone off is better, because you can say, "It's not you, it's the economy" Firing a nice low performer requires you to say, "It's not the economy, it's you." That's not fun.

Pants 07-20-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7759065)
I met one of my customers for the first time today. Around 40 and smoking hot. I said to myself "Oh, My!"

Ask her what she uses those tapes for while overtly winking at her.

gblowfish 07-20-2011 12:36 PM

Heh, I'm an old fat married guy now. But like my dad used to say, "I can still read the menu, just can't order anything!"

vailpass 07-20-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7759100)
Heh, I'm an old fat married guy now. But like my dad used to say, "I can still read the menu, just can't order anything!"

Even if you get it to go?

DMAC 07-20-2011 12:40 PM

I had Cajun for lunch. poopage!

tooge 07-20-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7759063)
Hygienist or Assistant?

Asst., and not real hot, just average. I fired a smokin hot hygienist once cuz she was a complete dumbass.

Skyy God 07-20-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759281)
Asst., and not real hot, just average. I fired a smokin hot hygienist once cuz she was a complete dumbass.

My problem employee is an ex stripper. Emphasis on the ex.

RockChalk 07-20-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759281)
Asst., and not real hot, just average. I fired a smokin hot hygienist once cuz she was a complete dumbass.

Assistants are a dime-a-dozen, but they're usually dental assistants for a reason. Too dumb to be a hygienist.

If she was smokin hot, I'm guessing you would've put up with her a little longer.

Demonpenz 07-20-2011 01:31 PM

sad sight to see one of my friends who used to get by on her looks hit that wall. Now she is just trying to put on that pancake makeup and still try to use the same moves, but like a female Thomas Jones, she better learn to do something else.

tooge 07-20-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7759299)
Assistants are a dime-a-dozen, but they're usually dental assistants for a reason. Too dumb to be a hygienist.

If she was smokin hot, I'm guessing you would've put up with her a little longer.

Nah, office politics are a bitch, pun intended. I work with 9 women, and they love to hate the "hottie". They are all nice when she was around other than some eye rolling, but once fired, she was a slut, whore, etc., all because of her looks. Women are funny that way. My wife, and my partners wife were never really that fond of her either. Go figure.

BigCatDaddy 07-20-2011 01:37 PM

It's all fun and games until she comes back with a 22.

RockChalk 07-20-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759327)
Nah, office politics are a bitch, pun intended. I work with 9 women, and they love to hate the "hottie". They are all nice when she was around other than some eye rolling, but once fired, she was a slut, whore, etc., all because of her looks. Women are funny that way. My wife, and my partners wife were never really that fond of her either. Go figure.

I swear that the only thing women do is talk shit on each other behind backs.

tooge 07-20-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7759337)
I swear that the only thing women do is talk shit on each other behind backs.

and make sammiches, give blow jobs, clean houses, and do dishes. That's why we associate with them rather than hunt them as trophys.

Rain Man 07-20-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759327)
Nah, office politics are a bitch, pun intended. I work with 9 women, and they love to hate the "hottie". They are all nice when she was around other than some eye rolling, but once fired, she was a slut, whore, etc., all because of her looks. Women are funny that way. My wife, and my partners wife were never really that fond of her either. Go figure.


Long ago, when I first got into consulting, I had a coworker who was a pretty attractive woman. Not frilly attractive, but elegant attractive. We were starting up a project in a distant city and the client had a social gathering to let everyone get to know each other, and one subcontract member of our consulting team (whom we had hired over the phone) was an eye-scorcher. Gorgeous figure, gorgeous face, and she was really nice as well. We're talking spectacular in terms of appearance. Absolutely spectacular. Seriously. Spectacular. Melt-your-face-off-if-you-get-too-close hot. My coworker and I had a nice conversation with her (no threesome or anything, just a conversation) and we met a bunch of other people and had a generally pleasant evening.

When we were driving back to the hotel we were chatting about who we'd met, and my coworker said, "I hated that Maria woman." [Name changed to protect the innocent.]

I said, "What?"

"I hated her."

"Why do you hate her? She seemed really nice."

"She was all arrogant and snotty. She's not going to be good to work with." She then proceeded to rip apart this other woman. Ripped. Her. Apart.

Now, I had been in the conversation with the two of them. They had not talked at all when I wasn't standing there with them. That Maria woman was very nice. There was absolutely nothing arrogant or snotty about her, and in fact it was the opposite. By all rights she should have been posing in a bikini on a Tahitian beach for seven figures a year, and yet she seemed quite happy with the fact that she was meeting us at a consulting social.

I worked with that coworker for several years, and beginning with Maria I began recognizing the pattern that any time she met a woman who was more attractive than she was, she disliked the woman, and it was never for a legitimate reason. It was amazing and it was completely consistent, and my coworker never knew that she exhibited the pattern. There were only two attractive women that she didn't beat on, and I think that was only because they were other coworkers that I was friends with, so she didn't talk to me about them.

It was quite the eye-opener.

Red Beans 07-20-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7759396)
Long ago, when I first got into consulting, I had a coworker who was a pretty attractive woman. Not frilly attractive, but elegant attractive. We were starting up a project in a distant city and the client had a social gathering to let everyone get to know each other, and one subcontract member of our consulting team (whom we had hired over the phone) was an eye-scorcher. Gorgeous figure, gorgeous face, and she was really nice as well. We're talking spectacular in terms of appearance. Absolutely spectacular. Seriously. Spectacular. Melt-your-face-off-if-you-get-too-close hot. My coworker and I had a nice conversation with her (no threesome or anything, just a conversation) and we met a bunch of other people and had a generally pleasant evening.

When we were driving back to the hotel we were chatting about who we'd met, and my coworker said, "I hated that Maria woman [name changed to protect the innocent]."

I said, "What?"

"I hated her."

"Why do you hate her? She seemed really nice."

"She was all arrogant and snotty. She's not going to be good to work with." She then proceeded to rip apart this other woman. Ripped. Her. Apart.

Now, I had been in the conversation with the two of them. They had not talked at all when I wasn't standing there with them. That Maria woman was very nice. There was absolutely nothing arrogant or snotty about her, and in fact it was the opposite. By all rights she should have been posing in a bikini on a Tahitian beach for seven figures a year, and yet she seemed quite happy with the fact that she was meeting us at a consulting social.

I worked with that woman for several years, and beginning with Maria I began recognizing the pattern that any time she met a woman who was more attractive than she was, she disliked the woman, and it was never for a legitimate reason. It was amazing and it was completely consistent, and my coworker never knew that she exhibited the pattern. There were only two attractive women that she didn't beat on, and I think that was only because they were other coworkers that I was friends with, so she didn't talk to me about them.

It was quite the eye-opener.

A fine example of womanry. I corresponds with that statement that all women spout at some point, "I just get along a lot better with guys than with other women." No shit, becasue you all seem to be in competition with one another...

Rain Man 07-20-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759344)
and make sammiches, give blow jobs, clean houses, and do dishes. That's why we associate with them rather than hunt them as trophys.


If not for a unique and irreplaceable reproductive niche, I'm convinced that women would have been hunted into extinction in the neolithic era.

Jawshco 07-20-2011 02:07 PM

I had to let a lady go this week too. It really sucked. I liked her, and she was good at her job, but we're a non-profit that gets funding from various states and we're getting more IOU's than money of late. It's was purely a financial thing, but I really hated to see it happen. The economy in California seems to keep getting worse and being unemployed is not a desirable place to be in this state when you've got mouths to feed.

gblowfish 07-20-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7759396)
Long ago, when I first got into consulting, I had a coworker who was a pretty attractive woman. Not frilly attractive, but elegant attractive. We were starting up a project in a distant city and the client had a social gathering to let everyone get to know each other, and one subcontract member of our consulting team (whom we had hired over the phone) was an eye-scorcher. Gorgeous figure, gorgeous face, and she was really nice as well. We're talking spectacular in terms of appearance. Absolutely spectacular. Seriously. Spectacular. Melt-your-face-off-if-you-get-too-close hot. My coworker and I had a nice conversation with her (no threesome or anything, just a conversation) and we met a bunch of other people and had a generally pleasant evening.

When we were driving back to the hotel we were chatting about who we'd met, and my coworker said, "I hated that Maria woman." [Name changed to protect the innocent.]

I said, "What?"

"I hated her."

"Why do you hate her? She seemed really nice."

"She was all arrogant and snotty. She's not going to be good to work with." She then proceeded to rip apart this other woman. Ripped. Her. Apart.

Now, I had been in the conversation with the two of them. They had not talked at all when I wasn't standing there with them. That Maria woman was very nice. There was absolutely nothing arrogant or snotty about her, and in fact it was the opposite. By all rights she should have been posing in a bikini on a Tahitian beach for seven figures a year, and yet she seemed quite happy with the fact that she was meeting us at a consulting social.

I worked with that coworker for several years, and beginning with Maria I began recognizing the pattern that any time she met a woman who was more attractive than she was, she disliked the woman, and it was never for a legitimate reason. It was amazing and it was completely consistent, and my coworker never knew that she exhibited the pattern. There were only two attractive women that she didn't beat on, and I think that was only because they were other coworkers that I was friends with, so she didn't talk to me about them.

It was quite the eye-opener.

Dear Penthouse,
I never thought something like this would happen to me, but.....

Rain Man 07-20-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7759447)
Dear Penthouse,
I never thought something like this would happen to me, but.....


If I was single and a hundred times more attractive, the possibilities were there. And my coworker would have been all competitive and stuff, which could have been leveraged easily.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-20-2011 02:13 PM

I had to fire a girl who was a good friend once because she started thinking it was ok to sleep late on Saturdays and miss her shift. It sucked not only because she was a friend but she was talented as well.

Lesson... don't be good friends with employees. That was my first management position though and I knew her before I got promoted so.... lesson to employees who are friends with their boss... don't take advantage of that friendship.

Jawshco 07-20-2011 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonan (Post 7759453)
I had to fire a girl who was a good friend once because she started thinking it was ok to sleep late on Saturdays and miss her shift. It sucked not only because she was a friend but she was talented as well.

Lesson... don't be good friends with employees. That was my first management position though and I knew her before I got promoted so.... lesson to employees who are friends with their boss... don't take advantage of that friendship.

That's tough for any new manager. I had a similar experience when I first went into management in a company that I'd been an employee in for a long time. A good portion of my friends suddenly became my employees. It gets easier with time, but it sucks at first. Unfortunately, friendships are never the same once you fire them.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-20-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawshco (Post 7759486)
That's tough for any new manager. I had a similar experience when I first went into management in a company that I'd been an employee in for a long time. A good portion of my friends suddenly became my employees. It gets easier with time, but it sucks at first. Unfortunately, friendships are never the same once you fire them.

Yeah being promoted to lead people I had previously been friends with has happened twice. It can be tough but as long as they have respect for your position it can work.

This girl I had to let go went on to become the GM of a colliegiate league baseball team and actually hired me to do public address announcing 2 years later so it was water under the bridge and she got it. Last I heard she's selling high dollar real estate in NYC so she's done just fine for herself.

NewChief 07-20-2011 02:43 PM

My wife's company just laid off one of her good friends. It stinks because my wife got her the job and the girl left her existing job to come work for the company. The girl has since thrown a fit and won't respond to emails from the bosses about finishing out the work in this pay period and returning the company computer. It's going to get ugly, I'm afraid, and my wife will be in an awkward spot.

Valiant 07-20-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 7759521)
My wife's company just laid off one of her good friends. It stinks because my wife got her the job and the girl left her existing job to come work for the company. The girl has since thrown a fit and won't respond to emails from the bosses about finishing out the work in this pay period and returning the company computer. It's going to get ugly, I'm afraid, and my wife will be in an awkward spot.

I do not understand not returning the company computer..

On good terms I would finish the work while working towards the end date.. But it seems it was not good terms, so I would not finish the work.. I would return all the company property and then go job hunting..

How long has she been there before she was laid off??

NewChief 07-20-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 7759963)
I do not understand not returning the company computer..

On good terms I would finish the work while working towards the end date.. But it seems it was not good terms, so I would not finish the work.. I would return all the company property and then go job hunting..

How long has she been there before she was laid off??

2 years. That's what I had my wife tell her as well. She's going to want this job on her resume, so it's important to leave on good terms. She td my wife, "I won't use these assholes as references." my response: good luck explaining that 2 year gap in your resume.

luv 07-20-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonan (Post 7759453)
I had to fire a girl who was a good friend once because she started thinking it was ok to sleep late on Saturdays and miss her shift. It sucked not only because she was a friend but she was talented as well.

Lesson... don't be good friends with employees.
That was my first management position though and I knew her before I got promoted so.... lesson to employees who are friends with their boss... don't take advantage of that friendship.

A lesson I learned the hard way.

luv 07-20-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7759299)
Assistants are a dime-a-dozen, but they're usually dental assistants for a reason. Too dumb to be a hygienist.

If she was smokin hot, I'm guessing you would've put up with her a little longer.

My best friend is a dental assistant. She's not happy with her current employer because he hardly lets her do anything. She is very interested in becoming a hygienist, but it's going to cost her more money she doesn't have.

RockChalk 07-20-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7760009)
My best friend is a dental assistant. She's not happy with her current employer because he hardly lets her do anything. She is very interested in becoming a hygienist, but it's going to cost her more money she doesn't have.

Well I say the "too dumb..." because a lot of the dental assistants I know are assistants because the a) couldn't make it into a hygiene program or b) failed the program. Hence my generality.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-20-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7760003)
A lesson I learned the hard way.

As hard as it was to tell her we had to let her go she made it as "easy" on me as she could. She understood and took responsibility for her actions and said no hard feelings. The rest of that day sucked though. We were still friends later... obviously when she hired me for a part time job. I asked her when she called and asked me to p.a. announce though if she was just hoping to hire me so she could fire me. She laughed. It was all good.

Rain Man 07-20-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 7760009)
My best friend is a dental assistant. She's not happy with her current employer because he hardly lets her do anything. She is very interested in becoming a hygienist, but it's going to cost her more money she doesn't have.

What does a dental assistant do relative to a dental hygienist?

NewChief 07-20-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7760579)
What does a dental assistant do relative to a dental hygienist?

DA works with the dentist. Sucks out your mouth, rinses you, hands the dentist tools, mixes epoxy, etc. Hygienist actually cleans your teeth and is responsible for your regular oral hygiene.

Phobia 07-20-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759327)
Nah, office politics are a bitch, pun intended. I work with 9 women, and they love to hate the "hottie". They are all nice when she was around other than some eye rolling, but once fired, she was a slut, whore, etc., all because of her looks. Women are funny that way. My wife, and my partners wife were never really that fond of her either. Go figure.

She was amazing. I used to make excuses to come to your office so she could hit on me.

Dallas Chief 07-20-2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7759404)
If not for a unique and irreplaceable reproductive niche, I'm convinced that women would have been hunted into extinction in the neolithic era.

Yessir!!! There would have been a bounty on their heads.

Dallas Chief 07-21-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 7759521)
My wife's company just laid off one of her good friends. It stinks because my wife got her the job and the girl left her existing job to come work for the company. The girl has since thrown a fit and won't respond to emails from the bosses about finishing out the work in this pay period and returning the company computer. It's going to get ugly, I'm afraid, and my wife will be in an awkward spot.

That is called the Supplier's Blues my friend...

cookster50 07-21-2011 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7759396)
Long ago, when I first got into consulting, I had a coworker who was a pretty attractive woman. Not frilly attractive, but elegant attractive. We were starting up a project in a distant city and the client had a social gathering to let everyone get to know each other, and one subcontract member of our consulting team (whom we had hired over the phone) was an eye-scorcher. Gorgeous figure, gorgeous face, and she was really nice as well. We're talking spectacular in terms of appearance. Absolutely spectacular. Seriously. Spectacular. Melt-your-face-off-if-you-get-too-close hot. My coworker and I had a nice conversation with her (no threesome or anything, just a conversation) and we met a bunch of other people and had a generally pleasant evening.

When we were driving back to the hotel we were chatting about who we'd met, and my coworker said, "I hated that Maria woman." [Name changed to protect the innocent.]

I said, "What?"

"I hated her."

"Why do you hate her? She seemed really nice."

"She was all arrogant and snotty. She's not going to be good to work with." She then proceeded to rip apart this other woman. Ripped. Her. Apart.

Now, I had been in the conversation with the two of them. They had not talked at all when I wasn't standing there with them. That Maria woman was very nice. There was absolutely nothing arrogant or snotty about her, and in fact it was the opposite. By all rights she should have been posing in a bikini on a Tahitian beach for seven figures a year, and yet she seemed quite happy with the fact that she was meeting us at a consulting social.

I worked with that coworker for several years, and beginning with Maria I began recognizing the pattern that any time she met a woman who was more attractive than she was, she disliked the woman, and it was never for a legitimate reason. It was amazing and it was completely consistent, and my coworker never knew that she exhibited the pattern. There were only two attractive women that she didn't beat on, and I think that was only because they were other coworkers that I was friends with, so she didn't talk to me about them.

It was quite the eye-opener.

I read that long of a post and that is it? Weak sauce

Skyy God 07-21-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 7759988)
2 years. That's what I had my wife tell her as well. She's going to want this job on her resume, so it's important to leave on good terms. She td my wife, "I won't use these assholes as references." my response: good luck explaining that 2 year gap in your resume.

She'll likely use your wife as a reference, hence the unreasonable behavior.

Rausch 07-21-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7759028)
Well, I just had to fire a gal that's been with us for about a year. she is a real sweetheart, but just didn't have the aptitude for the job. I hate that shit. Sometimes I wish I was a heartless bastard that didn't mind jacking up someones life. Carry on.

"You're not being fired.

We're giving you free career advice on your next employment opportunity..."

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NewChief 07-21-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7761145)
She'll likely use your wife as a reference, hence the unreasonable behavior.

Yeah. The latest is that she tried to convince the owner of the company that they were mandated to give her a severance package.

I feel bad for the girl and I understand being butthurt... but geeze.

jiveturkey 07-21-2011 09:32 AM

Women suck at getting fired. Dudes usually grab their shit and find the closest beer.

Rausch 07-21-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 7761191)
Yeah. The latest is that she tried to convince the owner of the company that they were mandated to give her a severance package.

I feel bad for the girl and I understand being butthurt... but geeze.

Careful, she might go all Ed Norton in Fight Club...

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Bob Dole 07-21-2011 09:48 AM

Bob Dole got to cut loose a 7 year employee caught up in a budget induced reduction in force on July 1. That's always fun...

"Good morning. You've not really done anything wrong, but I'm forced to cut someone loose, and your position is the least valuable to the department at this point in time. Here is your severance package. Ed the security guy here will escort you back to your office to collect your personal items."


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